SLC: Quarter Million Served
And three quarters of a million pages.
Thanks! Yes, we're piggy-backing off Dylan and the Loosers, but we are definitely providing the information people need to debunk Loose Change. If we were selling their warmed over conspiracy crap and charging $17.95/DVD I might feel embarrassed.
posted by Pat @ 7:31 AM
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19 Comments:
Screw Loose Change:
Providing the intentionally ignored missing pieces to Loose Change for those Truthers brave enough to face them.
For free!
You really need to add bumper stickers like Dylan offers as well. Only $8.95!
I'll finally be able cover up all the rust on my Chevette!
Nice CHF. Gonna have to pick that one up. :)
Great! Now put your money where your mouths are.
Please Killtown, please tell me who you would accept as an "independent investigator". You guys believe everyone is involved in the coverup. Every government and professional agency, every major media source in the world outside of neo-nazi newspapers and Pravda, every civil engineer in the world. Even Noam Chomsky is now a neo-con plant. Hell, you guys spend half your time accusing each other of being government shills.
So please tell me, name a single group of people you would accept an investigation from that you would not immediately accuse of corruption, should they produce a result that you do not like.
KillTard, I commented on that post of yours. Pretty much the same questions James is asking of you.
Please respond.
I'm dying to know....
I'd be satisfied with a panel who has no conflicts of interest and with one person from the 9/11 truth movement and you guys can choose one person from your "movement".
I figure if this investigations has no closed door non-recorded interviews (like when that happened with our Pres and VP) and no person has a conflict of interest, then most of us Truthers would be satisfied.
So what do you say, do you guys support a real independent investigation? Are you confident there was no conspiracy? Willing to put your $$$ where your mouths are?
We don't have a movement, and hence don't require representation. I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say that we're quite happy with the group of experts which NIST pulled together to study the collapse. If I had foreseen all this CT nonsense popping up, I would have gladly agreed that a twoofer be a part of that group.
Ofcourse, this twoofer, once exposed to the evidence by the experts he's working with, will have one of two options:
1) Continue to insist bombs brought down the building, even though none of the other members of the panel agree.
At which point the rest of the twoofers will insist that he is the only one who isn't brainwashed and can therefore see the truth, whereas the scientists and experts are all just government shills.
or
2) Realize that the CT movement is right out to lunch, and admit that the findings of the NIST study were accurate.
At which point the rest of the twoofers will accuse him of getting paid off or being a government shill.
Face it man, a new investigation won't prove anything to you losers, no matter who's running it.
Hey, if you guys are too scared to have a 1st time independent 9/11 investigation, then that's ok.
Hey, if you guys are too scared to have a 1st time independent 9/11 investigation, then that's ok.
It'll come to same conclusion, so I'm not scared.
It'll just be a waste of money.
I'd be satisfied with a panel who has no conflicts of interest
That is precisely my point. Unless you picked a bunch of idiots with no qualifications whatsoever, you would immediately begin attacking them as being tainted with some sort of conflict of interest.
Within a matter of hours we would see the same accusations (true or not, it makes no difference) on hundreds of websites:
Investigator A is a professor at a University that receives large amounts of government grants...
Investigator B owned over 2000 shares of Halliburton stock in 2004
Investigator C went to Yale and was in the Skull & Bones
Investigator D's mother is Jewish!
Investigator E has the same last name as a senior member of the Bush cabinet and the American Free Press says they are cousins!
Does anyone care what some juvenile nut named "Killtown" says about anything?
Any pimply little Momma's boy can post the same nonsense he is. And I bet that's just what he is.
Hey, if you guys are too scared to have a 1st time independent 9/11 investigation, then that's ok.
That might work in highschool, but this is the grown up world KT. Try again.
TAM
Roger said a while back that he had $50,000 to spare.
Didn't he also say he was gay recently, even though months ago he called my "back and to the left" a "gay refrain"?
Like hey man, I mean, like I do my part to get the Loose Change Traffic around here.
Translation: Having an investagation into an event which lead to a war that has costed cost $375 billion may cost more then the $15 million spent on the 9/11 commission, or 0.004% of the war on terror, and that would just be a HUGE waste of money.
It costs more than $10,000 to build an average car, but I would still consider it a waste if you suggested we spend 50 cents to investigate whether there are gremlins hiding under the hood.
jack jack jack;
Who will be on the list of investigators. Noone with any bias or agenda will be allowed, so this means the following cannot be a part of it.
1. Any government in the world or their representatives (geopolitical agendas)
2. Anyone from the "truth" movement (anti-govt agenda)
3. Anyone from the USG (evil NWO agenda)
4. Anyone who believes the official story (you'll say they are bias)
Doesn't leave a whole lot of people, does it?
I'd like to see your list of who you think should be the investigators for the requested "independent" investigation.
TAM
You are all forgetting that no expert could figure out how the towers fell until they recreated a "black box" model that adjusted factors so that the tower would fall.
What the hell is a "black box model" and where exactly did you "learn" that nonsense? Let me guess, Thermate-Man also came up with the "black box model" theory?
Like adjusting the number of bolts in a tuss, reducing the size of trussing and core members, removing heat protection, increasing heating absorption, removing heat sink factors, and mucking around other parameters.
Or like adding 50 tons of thermate to the columns?
Didn't you know that NIST could not build a computer model that caused the building to fall until they changed factors?
That's what you're supposed to do when you're working with limited data. We have a rough cause, we have an observed effect, and we have some limited data on the what occurred in the time between. If you plug the data into a computer and don't achieve the observed effect then you are obviously either missing data, or have made an error in your calculations. You need to re-check your data and/or figure out what factors you've missed. Then plug everything back into the computer and see what happens. I'm not at all surprised that this is yet another concept which you have failed to grasp.
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