Tuesday, December 19, 2006

This Will Be Controversial

11 Comments:

At 19 December, 2006 11:16, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boo Yah!

 
At 19 December, 2006 11:26, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lyrics:

I speak peace when peace is spoken, But I speak war when your hate is provoking, The season is open 24-7-365, Man up yo time to ride, No need to hide behind slogans of deceit, Claiming that you're a religion of peace, We just don't believe you, We can clearly see through, The madness that you're feeding your people, Jihad the cry of your unholy war, Using the willing, the weak and poor, From birth drowning in propaganda, rhetoric and slander, All we can say is damn ya

My forefathers fought and died for this here
I'm stronger than your war of fear
Are we clear?
If you step in my hood
It's understood
It's open season

I don't need a faith that's blind, Where death and hate bring me peace of mind, With views that are stuck deep in the seventh century, So much sand in your eyes to blind to see, The venom that you leaders preach, Is the path to your own destruction, Your own demise, You might say that I don't understand but your disgust for me is what I realize, Surprise! Your homicidal ways has got the whole world watching, Whole world scoping, So if you bring it to my home base, Best believe it, The season's open

I see you, Hell yeah I see you, Motherfucker naw, I don't wanna be you, If you come to my place, I'll drop more than just some bass, Yo you'll get a taste of a, Sick motherfucker from the Dirty, I ain't worrying not a fucking bit, I'm telescoping like Hubble, Yo you in trouble, Yo on the double, I'm wild with mine, Bring that style with mine, Fuck with my family I'll end your line, Just the way it is, Just the way it be, Do you understand? No matter if you're woman or man, or child, My profile is crazy, That shit you do doesn't amaze me, I'm ready to blaze thee

I don't give a damn what god you claim, I've seen the innocent that you've slain, On my streets you're just fair game, Like a pig walk to your slaughter, The heat here is so much hotter, And my views won't teeter totter or fluctuate, Step to me you just met your fate, And I'll annihilate, With the skill of a Shogun assassin, Slicing and dicing precise with a passion, In any shape form or fashion, Bring it to my home, Welcome to the danger zone, Cause your attitude's the reason, The triggers keep squeezing, The hunt is on and it's open season

It's Open Season

 
At 19 December, 2006 12:09, Blogger Alex said...

Hoorah. I'm not exactly a big rap fan normally, but I'm likin' it.

 
At 19 December, 2006 16:50, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

I'm not a fan of violence, but I get the message here..."you bring shit to my doorstep, and be prepared to back the F*&K up."

TAM

 
At 21 December, 2006 03:56, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

The fact is that this problem wouldn't exist were it not for globalization. Before the Dittoheads go crazy, I'm not "blaming America" like so many trendy-leftists. I blame capitalism, American, Israeli, Egyptian, Pakistani, British, Saudi, Jordanian, etc.

Look at how the Arab rulers treat their people, like slaves. They stir them up against "infidels" because this keeps them distracted and prevents them from seeing the real source of their problems, their own leaders. Of course the same thing is happening in the West.

The point is that there are clear material economic roots to these problems, and all this anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, Islamophobia, etc. is nothing but evading the real issue at stake.

 
At 21 December, 2006 05:13, Blogger shawn said...

I blame capitalism

"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself."

Of course the same thing is happening in the West.

Except in the West, a good many people see their leaders as a bigger threat than the "other". I blame the real culprit, an ideology stuck in the seventh century. The things you listed just make recruiting easier, but none are the base cause.

 
At 21 December, 2006 11:59, Blogger Alex said...

I blame capitalism, American, Israeli, Egyptian, Pakistani, British, Saudi, Jordanian, etc.

So if we were all commies, the Muslims would be freedom loving and civilized, and right now Bush would be having tea with Osama, discussing the finer points of doily-weaving?

Come on. That's a silly argument, even for a knee-jerk anti-capitalist.

The point is that there are clear material economic roots to these problems, and all this anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, Islamophobia, etc. is nothing but evading the real issue at stake.

Nonsense. There are clear POWER roots to these issues. It's not about Muslims being jealous of our material wealth, it's about certain groups wanting to run the show. That's what it's always been about - even in the wonderful workers paradise that was the USSR. Why do you think Stalin executed millions of people? It certainly wasn't because of capitalism - it was because he had his ideas about how the place should be run, and he was willing to kill anyone he had to in order to make it happen. Ditto for Castro and Guevera, and every other 2 bit tyrant in history. Wars are occasionally started due to capitalistic concerns (japan being a good example), but most of the time they're about control rather than wealth. Wealth is just a byproduct of control/power.

 
At 22 December, 2006 02:36, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

Nobody ever said people like Bin Laden do what they do because they are not socialist. Bin Laden represents a form of resistance to Western imperialism- but it is an undesirable resistance because the success of such an ideology would have grave consequences for millions of people.

You say power is the issue, but what is power in the capitalist world? Take some time to look at who has been reaping in massive profits from wars and interventions- in ANY country. Take a look at the manner by which organizations like the WTO or countries like the US manipulate politics in other nations to ensure fertile ground for their businesses. It's not difficult to find, it's out in the open.

It is this kind of action that fuels movements like Al Qaeda, and many times Al Qaeda leaders have openly stated words to these effects. The reaction by Western powers has only given more validity to the words of these nutcases.

It is indeed possible that radical Islam may break the capitalist establishment- but if that should happen we will all regret it.



Lastly, Stalin did not execute millions of people. Archival research showed this several years ago.

 
At 22 December, 2006 08:58, Blogger Alex said...

Take some time to look at who has been reaping in massive profits from wars and interventions- in ANY country.

Let me think...how does "nobody" sound? War is inherently destructive. You cannot create a profit by throwing away resources. If you want to create an overall increase in productivity for your nation, you need to annex land or resources. For America, this isn't even an option. Compare the American GDP to the Iraqi GDP. The US produces in about 3 days the equivalent of all Iraqi production in a YEAR. So if Bush went into Iraq and stole every last thing that Iraq produced for a whole year, it'd be enough to power the US economy for less than 3 days. You explain to me how that makes sense from a capitalistic point of view.

On the other hand, if you're suggesting that certain individuals and companies are making profits from war, then yeah, you're right. So what? Are you now going to tell me that Bush only started the war in Iraq so he and his buddies could make some money? How is that any better than when the twoofers claim he killed 3,000 American citizens just so he could get oil? Let's not go down THAT road JP....

Take a look at the manner by which organizations like the WTO or countries like the US manipulate politics in other nations to ensure fertile ground for their businesses.

Ofcourse they do. What's wrong with that? There's a huge difference between having INFLUENCE over a nation, and controlling that nation. Everyone influences everyone else, it's what life's all about. The only way to avoid influencing other nations is to avoid ALL interaction.

It is this kind of action that fuels movements like Al Qaeda, and many times Al Qaeda leaders have openly stated words to these effects.

And they've lied every time. Blaming their attacks on "this kind of action" is just a convenient excuse. They're saying "we don't like the way you run things, so we're going to attack you until you do it our way". The same sort of thing has been going on throughout human history. You seem to forget that the Afghans resisted the commies too, and kicked their asses pretty good. I suppose that it was all the Capitalists in the USSR who were responsible for that mess, eh?

 
At 22 December, 2006 10:18, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

Alex, please don't pretend that war isn't immensely profitable. Take a look at a stock ticker.

To address your other point, how can the United States, or anyone for that matter support "democracy" while using economic leverages to influence foreign political systems, as well as pumping massive amounts of money into various political parties to influence elections.

As for whether Al Qaeda has been lying, well that's a given- but the overall claims they make are at least superficially true. As for the other stuff, it really doesn't matter what our perception is, but theirs.

Many Communists, including myself, were against military intervention in Afghanistan. But do not forget that the first people to introduce women's rights and education there was the DRA government, the Marxists. In fact the Mujahadeen did not have a lot of popularity until the Soviet intervention(one reason why it was a bad idea).

 
At 25 December, 2006 16:53, Blogger Alex said...

To address your other point, how can the United States, or anyone for that matter support "democracy" while using economic leverages to influence foreign political systems, as well as pumping massive amounts of money into various political parties to influence elections.

How does influence prevent democracy, exactly? Any democracy which is unable to deal with outside persuasion is pretty damn useless anyway.

More importantly, what's your solution, exactly? How do you propose we stop countries from influencing each other?

And why do you insist on subtly insinuating that it's a purely capitalist problem, when you KNOW that this is not the case? You speak as if no communist regime has ever influenced another sovereign nation.

But do not forget that the first people to introduce women's rights and education there was the DRA government, the Marxists.

Good for them, but it's got nothing to do with what we were discussing. You won't find me claiming that the commies are worse than other tyrants in history. Certainly most religious tyrannies were a lot worse than, for example, the current North Korean regime. This does not, however, excuse their behaviour, nor does it in any way counter the original point I was trying to make, which is that those who wish to pick a fight with you will ALWAYS find a way to blame it on you, regardless of what your political system may be.

 

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