Denier/Debunker Debate This Evening
On the Debate Hour, an internet radio show. The Denier will be Michael Berger, spokesman for 911Truth.org and the Debunker will be Roger Schlueter, a JREF member. The show airs at 8:00 PM Eastern Time, and there is apparently a live chatroom where you can interact with the show. Click here for the listen live link.
posted by Pat @ 11:47 AM
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In his accompanying statement to the report, David Walker, Comptroller of the US, warmed up his audience by stating that the GAO had found so many significant material deficiencies in the government’s accounting systems that the GAO was “unable to express an opinion” on the financial statements. Ha ha! He really knows how to play an audience!
Old News Rehashed: BG still a Retarded Spammer
LD,
Click here entertain yourself for hours.
Like this:
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BG is a Retarded Spammer
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end up looking like this:
BG is a Retarded Spammer
BG, while that was actually pretty amusing, we all KNOW that you can be funny. The problem is, most of the time you're unintentionally funny. You need to learn how not to make us laugh when you're trying to be serious.
This shouldn't make anybody laugh:
My crime was to protest at Israeli assassinations
israel desperately seeks war with Iran
Youtube: America - seduced into war based on LIES
BG, I find it ironic that you give me crap for anything not 9-11 CT-related, then you spam the comments with stuff about Israel that has nothing to do with 9-11. Please cut it out or I will start deleting comments (as I have deleted some of the offensive comments about you in the past).
http://rattube.com/blog1/2007/01/05/911-truth-even-more-video-proof-of-controlled-demolitions >9/11 Truth: Even More Video Proof of Controlled Demolitions
Pat,
I have no ill will toward you or this blog.
I don't mean to fly in the face of the subject matter. I would argue that my links are related to 9/11.
I imagine that making this contention will simply point up an additional difference of opinion.
Using your logic, BG:
The snowy owl is a creature on earth.
9/11 occured in NYC on planet earth...
All articles related to the snowy owl are related to 9/11.
TAM
Israel has nothing to do with 9/11, nothing.
Al-Qaeda's addition of the Palestine problem to their list was lip service to the pet causes of the Arab bloc. The Arab nations kept the Palestinians in refugee camps to use them as a tool against the state of Israel.
This shouldn't make anybody laugh:
My crime was to protest at Israeli assassinations
Wrong again, numnutz.
I damn near laughed my ass off when I got to this line in the article:
"She began making regular visits to Jenin, which had been devastated in an Israeli raid earlier that year."
The mythical "Jenin Massacre" has long been known to be a hoax. It was made up by the palestinians as thier own "false flag" op. Only without the op, they simply claimed it happened and that Isreal did it without the bodies and property damage.
Of course you believed it because you'll believe anything bad about jews.
You're a joke, BG.
Then Israeli foreign minister, Shimon Peres, who initially told Ha'aretz that a "massacre" had taken place in Jenin, later retracting his statement, categorically stated that under no circumstances Israel should allow UN investigators access to the Camp. Indeed, Israel, supported by the U.S. and appeased by the UN General Secretary, Kofi Annan, refused to allow the UN to investigate the Israeli atrocities in Jenin. Whether the indiscriminate killings it committed in Jenin constituted a massacre or not was never allowed to be examined impartially by the UN. But what was abundantly clear by all objective accounts was the fact that Israel committed the following war crimes in Jenin:
MurderVillage said...
bg said..."I don't mean to fly in the face of the subject matter."
Okay, you're officially the stupidest twoofer on the planet. Bar none.
He does have issues with metaphors and other aspects of the language. Sometimes it seems to me that BG is doing a standup routine. Sort of Professor Irwin Corey (the world's greatest expert) doing material written by Yogi Berra.
I heard on the radio today that our new Fed chairman (Barnake?) used a quote attributed to Berra. "Making predictions is very hard; particularly when they are about the future." ( may have the quote off a little, but it's close enough for the internets.)
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BG...
THERE...
WAS...
NO...
MASSACRE...
IN...
JENIN.
PERIOD.
Knock off the jew-hate. It's pathetic and practiced only by people with small willies.
BG is obviously trying to ruin this site by trashing the place with unrelated links. "No ill will" my ass...
Pat... James... Don't delete his comments, but instead seriously look into reporting this disruptive behavior to Blogger/Google.
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-cohen041602.asp
If this action had taken place in Afghanistan, U.S. troops would have called in the "vitamin B": B-1, B-2 and B-52 bombers. If it had happened in Chechnya, the Russian generals would have called in artillery and flattened Jenin, just as they did Grozny. Israeli tanks were there, and they could have shot straight into town and the refugee camp. Instead, Israelis fought on foot, placing themselves at risk while trying to protect Palestinian lives. One of the fighters, reportedly a young boy, detonated a booby trap in a building already taken by the Israeli reservists, and 13 were killed on the spot.
Before you say it, BG... yes... I know. The article was written by a jew.
It seems, based on some of the comments here, that I need to state what should be obvious.
I don't believe the "Jews" were behind 9/11. I believe the Holocaust was a horrible genocide.
I support security for Israel. I support the honest spiritual and cultural bonds of all people and recognize everyone's dignity as humans. I respect the reality of tribalism as a fundamental part of human civilization.
As I add this additional comment, I make this reference because the information applies the the Middle East Conflicts, which in turn applies to the pre and post 9/11 geopolitical analysis.
Setting the Record Straight Concerning the 2002 Israeli Massacre of Jenin
Only in your world does "geopolitical analysis" involve the dissemination of lies and propaganda. You need to be euthanized.
LD,
You make me feel sorta like Sally Field:
"You hate me... you really really hate me".
New Spy Chief's "Total Information" Ties
from Juxtaposition: A Decompartmentalized Zone by Eric Stewart
Here is a piece from Defense Tech:
Beloved Gravy
InstaLunacy
from Lawyers, Guns and Money by Scott Lemieux
The Ole Perfesser is still implying that we haven't initiated regime change in ...
Associated Press 1, Rightwing blogs 0
When will some commenters here realize that your insults simply energize me?
Eyewitness Accounts in Report Indicate Marines Gunned Down Unarmed Iraqis in the Aftermath of a Roadside Bombing in 2005 (Wash Post)
BG if you are hoping for people to actually read all those sites you link to, i'm guessing you're wrong, because you only spam the shit out of everyone with stuff that has nothing to do with the actual post.
But if that is the way you like to debate by just spamming a lot of links over here, then be my guest.
I see it over here on a dutch blog to, most CT-ers just spam like shit and hope people will actually read it.
I saw you posted some links to dutch sites last week orso and i was wondering why you are posting links on an american site do dutch sites. I don't think most people here understand a word of dutch, including you, so i was curious why you did that.
Another batch of fake "Al Qaeda?"
American Passports Found on Bodies of Al Qaeda Fighters in Somalia.
so i was curious why you did that.
The video link I posted in Dutch contained a lot of clips from Loose Change.
Obviously, the SLC Blog needs to be more international to combat the lies of Loose Change that are being broadcast around the world.
So it easier for you to believe that the jenin massacre was a hoax and not 9/11?
..yes. The Palestinians were saying hundreds died in Jenin when FIFTY-TWO did, only twenty-two being civilians. Not only that, but the Israelis lost twenty-three troops in the house to house fighting.
It's quite obvious when you can't find hundreds of bodies that a massacre didn't take place (and when two notoriously anti-Israel agencies, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, also concur on the death count). There's no evidence 9/11 was a hoax, moron.
Really, how ignorant are you people? It's like you've never heard any bit of history ever.
OH...
MY...
GAWD!!!
BG claims he doesn't hate jews...
...and then posts a link to al-frakking-jazeera about Isreali "war crimes".
You're either doing this all on pourpose, BG. Or you have got to be the dumbest piece of sh_t to ever slither out of a sceptic tank and claim to be a man.
Your buddy Mel was wrong, BG. People like YOU are the cause of all the wars in the world.
I don't know about you guys, but I sure hope James or Pat makes a new post soon. It's getting boring cleaning your clock on this thread.
Now now, trying to bait people by claiming false victory over them is...well...juvenile and...bush league.
TAM
Tam
How can you clean someone's clock with SPAM?
It's getting boring cleaning your clock on this thread.
Your only support for Jenin was someone claiming Jenin was a massacre getting creamed by the guy who he was complaining to.
You still have yet to make a connection between Israel and 9/11.
BG-
Doesn't it bother you that you've become absolutely predictable?
C'mon man, you used to be really entertaining on here. Now you're just sad and pathetic. Spice it up! Do something different. I need laughter throughout my day and you're just not cutting it anymore.
You're either doing this all on pourpose, BG. Or you have got to be the dumbest piece of sh_t to ever slither out of a sCeptic tank and claim to be a man.
I don't know if the "sceptic tank" thing was intentional, but it made the comment both more accurate and much more amusing :)
Tam
How can you clean someone's clock with SPAM?
you cant, it just leaves clock all greasy and smelling like...well, like spam.
TAM:)
I'll bet that small is really good at keeping the girls away, eh Bill?
LOL Tam
With all the crap he spews, it is time for the hip boots
If you have a problem with BG's posts, why do you respond? Doesn't that fuel the flame?
Israel has nothing to do with 9/11, nothing
You mean the ones behind the greatest spy scandal in history that Fox news reported on and then Orwelled the story off the net even though many cached the story?
Or do you mean the Israelis photographing the towers and cheering on the attacks?
Or do you mean the Israeli IM company Idigo and its warnings?
Or are you referring to the Israelis who warned my government about 9/11?
Which Israelis do you refer to shawn?
The dancing isrealis story has long been known to be a hoax.
A small group of Isrealis working for a moving company were taken into custody and released, but no one could confirm any other details including the dancing, cheering or even the filming or photographing of the attacks.
Which Israelis do you refer to shawn?
Why do you folks have a love for hoaxes, yet reject reality as a hoax?
Sword of Truth or lie? So ABC News and the NYTimes and now the FBI perpetrated a hoax on the American People? You sound like a CT SOT!
What fantasy land do you get your info??
Published on Saturday, June 22, 2002 by ABC News
The White Van
Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.
Maria, who asked us not to use her last name, had a view of the World Trade Center from her New Jersey apartment building. She remembers a neighbor calling her shortly after the first plane hit the towers.
She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.
Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.
The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.
She found the behavior so suspicious that she wrote down the license plate number of the van and called the police. Before long, the FBI was also on the scene, and a statewide bulletin was issued on the van.
The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.
The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.
‘We Are Not Your Problem’
According to the police report, one of the passengers told the officers they had been on the West Side Highway in Manhattan "during the incident" — referring to the World Trade Center attack. The driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers, "We are Israeli. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are the problem." The other passengers were his brother Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari.
When the men were transferred to jail, the case was transferred out of the FBI's Criminal Division, and into the bureau's Foreign Counterintelligence Section, which is responsible for espionage cases, ABCNEWS has learned.
One reason for the shift, sources told ABCNEWS, was that the FBI believed Urban Moving may have been providing cover for an Israeli intelligence operation.
After the five men were arrested, the FBI got a warrant and searched Urban Moving's Weehawken, N.J., offices.
The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.
Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.
The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.
‘A Scary Situation’
Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."
But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.
The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.
The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.
'Plenty of Speculation'
Since their arrest, plenty of speculation has swirled about the case, and what the five men were doing that morning. Eventually, The Forward, a respected Jewish newspaper in New York, reported the FBI concluded that two of the men were Israeli intelligence operatives.
Vince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities' interest in the case was heightened when some of the men's names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.
Israeli Intelligence Connection?
According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been "set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area."
Under this scenario, the alleged spying operation was not aimed against the United States, but at penetrating or monitoring radical fund-raising and support networks in Muslim communities like Paterson, N.J., which was one of the places where several of the hijackers lived in the months prior to Sept. 11.
For the FBI, deciphering the truth from the five Israelis proved to be difficult. One of them, Paul Kurzberg, refused to take a lie-detector test for 10 weeks — then failed it, according to his lawyer. Another of his lawyers told us Kurzberg had been reluctant to take the test because he had once worked for Israeli intelligence in another country.
Sources say the Israelis were targeting these fund-raising networks because they were thought to be channeling money to Hamas and Islamic Jihad, groups that are responsible for most of the suicide bombings in Israel. "[The] Israeli government has been very concerned about the activity of radical Islamic groups in the United States that could be a support apparatus to Hamas and Islamic Jihad," Cannistraro said.
The men denied that they had been working for Israeli intelligence out of the New Jersey moving company, and Ram Horvitz, their Israeli attorney, dismissed the allegations as "stupid and ridiculous."
Mark Regev, the spokesman for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, goes even further, asserting the issue was never even discussed with U.S. officials.
"These five men were not involved in any intelligence operation in the United States, and the American intelligence authorities have never raised this issue with us," Regev said. "The story is simply false."
No ‘Pre-Knowledge’
Despite the denials, sources tell ABCNEWS there is still debate within the FBI over whether or not the young men were spies. Many U.S. government officials still believe that some of them were on a mission for Israeli intelligence. But the FBI told ABCNEWS, "To date, this investigation has not identified anybody who in this country had pre-knowledge of the events of 9/11."
Sources also said that even if the men were spies, there is no evidence to conclude they had advance knowledge of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. The investigation, at the end of the day, after all the polygraphs, all of the field work, all the cross-checking, the intelligence work, concluded that they probably did not have advance knowledge of 9/11," Cannistraro noted.
As to what they were doing on the van, they say they read about the attack on the Internet, couldn't see it from their offices and went to the parking lot for a better view. But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
While the former detainees refused to answer ABCNEWS' questions about their detention and what they were doing on Sept. 11, several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home.
Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."
ABCNEWS' Chris Isham, John Miller, Glenn Silber and Chris Vlasto contributed to this report.
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And now the AP is in on the hoax!
U.S. arrests of Israelis
a mystery
Most charged with immigration violations either have been deported or will be
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/printarticle/gam/20011217/UHELDM
By DOUG SAUNDERS
With a report from Associated Press
Monday, December 17, 2001 – Print Edition, Page A7
LOS ANGELES -- U.S. officials have arrested, detained and questioned hundreds of people on vague suspicions of ties to terrorism since Sept. 11, but a few dozen cases are especially mysterious: They are Israelis, young and apparently Jewish, working in the United States on temporary visas and have little obvious connection to Islamic extremism.
The U.S. government has offered no explanation for the detentions, estimated to be as many as 60 in number, and some of them have begun speaking out in protest and asking courts to end their detention. But Washington appears to be treating them as palpable threats: Many remain in jail. Most have been charged with immigration violations, and either have been or will be deported.
Based on what the Israelis say about the questions they have been asked, federal officials appear to believe they are either Muslim extremists hiding behind false Israeli identities or spies working for the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency.
If the latter is the case, it raises the possibility that Washington is using its antiterrorism campaign as an excuse to round up other groups of people it wants out. "They asked if I was spying on anybody," said Yaniv Hani, 22, who spent four weeks in custody after Sept. 11 and now faces charges from the Immigration and Naturalization Service for working with an improper visa. He said
Federal Bureau of Investigation officials asked him whether he was really Muslim before switching to questions about possible ties to Mossad. Mr. Hani worked for a number of years for Israel's military police.
Israel has protested the arrests. Mark Regev, a spokesman for the Israeli embassy in Washington, said the FBI has not contacted Israel about spying allegations, and that "not a single one has been charged with intelligence violations. It has all been visa violations."
Another possibility is that the FBI suspects the Israelis of taking part in a clandestine operation. A majority of those arrested were employees of a Florida company, Quality Sales, that hires vacationing Israeli youth to work at vending carts in U.S. shopping malls.
Thomas Dean, a lawyer for the company, acknowledged that the Israelis had been issued the wrong type of visa, since they were tourists on working vacations rather than permanent workers.
However, he noted that their cases had all been labelled "special interest" by the INS, a new designation indicating that they are suspects in the antiterrorism campaign, not regular immigration violators.
"Clearly that was what the FBI, from the very beginning, was very interested in talking about -- their activity in the Israeli military or any kind of intelligence agency."
(Israel does have a history of spying against the United States, even though the two nations are officially allies. The most famous case is that of Jonathan Pollard, a U.S. military official convicted in 1987 of espionage for stealing top U.S. military secrets on behalf of Israel.)
Also, five of the Israelis came to the FBI's attention after they were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture.
Steven Noah Gordon, a lawyer for the five, told The New York Times that their behaviour may have been offensive, but said the behaviour was not criminal -- "and they were being treated as if it was." The five have since been deported.
U.S. officials have offered no explanation for the arrests, even to immigration judges. Last month, when the INS asked that bail be denied to 11 of the Israelis, a judge rejected the request, saying the government had been less than forthcoming with evidence.
"Although the [INS] alleges that these cases are 'special,' it has failed to present any credible evidence of the basis for this finding," Judge Elizabeth Hacker wrote. "The service has failed to submit any evidence of terrorist activity or of a threat to national security."
Copyright © 2001 Globe Interactive, a division of Bell Globemedia Publishing
---And now The Record NJ News Is in on the hoax!
Five men detained as suspected conspirators
By PAULO LIMA
Staff Writer
ABOUT eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts.
The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday. The Bergen County Police bomb squad X-rayed packages found inside the van but did not find any explosives, authorities said.
However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot.
"There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted," the source said. "It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park."
Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said.
Sources said the van was stopped as it headed east on Route 3, between the Hackensack River bridge and the Sheraton hotel. As a precaution, police shut down Route 3 traffic in both directions after the stop and evacuated a small roadside motel near the Sheraton.
Sources close to the investigation said the men said they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been able to confirm their identities. Authorities would not release their names.
East Rutherford officers stopped the van after the FBI's Newark Field Office broadcast an alert asking surrounding police departments to look for a white Chevrolet van, police said.
"We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side," said Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig. "Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down."
The East Rutherford officers summoned the county police bomb squad, New Jersey state troopers, and FBI agents, who waited alongside the van as prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney's Office tried to obtain a warrant to search the van late Tuesday, Schmidig said.
By 10 p.m., members of the bomb squad were picking through the van and X-raying packages found inside, Schmidig said.
Sources said the FBI alert, known as a BOLO or "Be On Lookout," was sent out at 3:31 p.m.
It read:
"Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center.
"Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals."
FBI spokeswoman Sandra Carroll declined to comment on the incident late Tuesday.
State police Lt. Col. Barry W. Roberson confirmed the traffic stop at a late night news briefing at state police headquarters in Trenton. He would not elaborate, however.
Business records show an Urban Moving Systems with offices on West 50th Street in Manhattan and on West 18th Street in Weehawken. Telephone messages left at the businesses Tuesday evening were not immediately returned.
Business records show the owner as Dominik Suter of Fair Lawn. A woman answering the telephone at Suter's home acknowledged he owned the company but refused to comment further. She also declined to identify herself.
It was not clear Tuesday whether the van stopped by police is related to Suter's company.
A business traveler staying at the Homestead Studio Suites Hotel said she watched state troopers drive the suspects away in a procession of state police cars about 5 p.m.
The woman, who asked not to be identified, said the people detained appeared to be white men, but she could not give more details. About 5:30 p.m., police evacuated the hotel without offering guests an explanation.
"First, they told us we could hang out in the lobby, but then they told us we had to leave," the traveler said.
At 10 p.m., the hotel guest said she could see at least two police officers searching through the van while a crowd of other officers kept their distance. Except for police vehicles and a tow truck, the service road beside Route 3 was empty, she said.
Staff Writer Wendy Ruderman contributed to this report.
Shawn Can you explain the hoax in greater detail based upon the above MSM news reports?
Other deniers in Dancing Israelis, the link is scan of the newspaper that ran the hoax.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
IMAGES/record_9-11.jpg
Yeah, I hear there were dancing Jews at the Reichstag fire too. Not only that, but they even had marshmallows! If only we could have wiped them out in the 1940's, then 9/11 would have never happened....
I really think the following movie and website needs to be debunked. We need to get on this!
The movie "9/11: Press for Truth" should be debunked.
View the trailer for the movie at the following website:
( Running Time: 2 min. 13 sec.)
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Watch the entire film at Google Video:
( Running Time: 1 hr. 24 min. 21 sec. )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=9%2F11%3A+Press+for+Truth
The Complete 9/11 Timeline at the Center for Cooperative Research website needs to be debunked as well:
Complete 9/11 Timeline:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
Patriots Question 9/11 website needs to be dubunked as well:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
LET'S GET ON IT!
Lying Dylan
Can you please stand by tour word and stop deleting what could have been an entertaining comment.
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