Wednesday, February 21, 2007

Kook Panel on 9-11 in Vermont

Burlington Vermont, which has succeeded in becoming the kook capital of the United States, has a ballot proposition this year on a new investigation into 9-11. Tonight, a local "educational" channel will air a panel on the proposal:

A panel discussion on the ballot items in Burlington and Lincoln asking for a new investigation of the events of Sept. 11, 2001, will air at 8 p.m. today on Regional Educational Technology Network, Channel 16. It will air simultaneous online at

RETN asks viewers to participate in the discussion by phone or e-mail.

The panel will include proponents of a new investigation: Kyle Hence, executive director of 9/11 Citizens Watch and producer of the documentary "9/11: Press for Truth"; Burlington writer and musician Mark Estrin; and former City Councilor Doug Dunbebin.

No mention of skeptics on the panel; apparently they couldn't locate any.

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At 21 February, 2007 08:13, Blogger BG said...

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At 21 February, 2007 08:14, Blogger BG said...

You want anti-truthers on the panel, do you?

Are you are Kucinich supporter? You seem to want a fairness doctrine to be in play.

At 21 February, 2007 10:07, Blogger Matthew said...

Here is the wording of the proposition:

"Shall Vermont's Congressional Delegation be advised to demand a new, thorough, and truly independent forensic investigation that fully addresses the many questions surrounding the tragic events of September 11, 2001?"

more at

It'll be voted on at the Burlington Town Meeting March 6. Vermonts Representatives and Senators are free to ignore it, if passed, and I'm sure they will.

More about town meetings in Vermont:
A couple of USA Today articles:
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At 21 February, 2007 11:44, Blogger S. King said...

I've argued with proponents of this ballot in the online letters section of the Burlington Free Press off and on since January.

Vermont's two senators and one congressman stated a month ago that they will not press for a new investigation if the ballot is passed.

You can take on the 9/11 deniers here:

At 21 February, 2007 15:42, Blogger shawn said...

Are you are Kucinich supporter? You seem to want a fairness doctrine to be in play.

No, fairness doctrine allows the Truthers to be in on a panel, as the skeptics are on the correct side (the reality-side). The Truthers are the ones arguing from the weak end - ergo allowing them a voice is living up to the "fairness" (aka "let any ignorant moron open his yap") doctrine.

At 21 February, 2007 20:01, Blogger Alex said...

"anti-truthers", Bill? :p

Boy, you are the personification of Orwell's fears.

At 22 February, 2007 00:18, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

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At 22 February, 2007 00:19, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

Is there going to be a rider tagged onto that bill saying that if the investigation comes back supporting the NIST version of events, it will be null and void? Because we all know the twoofers don't want a new independent investigation of events; they want one that completely supports their version.

At 22 February, 2007 01:18, Blogger FX9 said...

do you think the commission report is based on an 'independent investigation'?

At 22 February, 2007 09:01, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

Any of you citizens of Vermont?

At 22 February, 2007 09:56, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...


I didn't mention the 9/11 Commission Report, did I? The 9/11 Commission Report was a government-funded report of the kind anyone would expect after a disaster of that nature. If you're expecting an organisation with its origins in the American government to have no ties to the American government, then, yeah, you're probably going to be disappointed there. It's like expecting the FBI to act independently of the American intelligence services.

Still, no matter; every qualified expert in the world is on our side, up to and including publications like Popular Mechanics and the engineer shown making a model of the Pentagon crash in the BBC film, who have absolutely no governmental connection.

At 26 February, 2007 05:48, Blogger craig hill said...

Dunno if anyone's still reading at this point, but i had the great pleasure of being added to the panel at virtually the last moment, to take the con to the pro-posal of a new investigation, which i see as an interminably paralyzing and dubious process in the face of the necessary urgency to arrest the perps before they kill again, i.e., pull another even worse 9/11 as justification to nuke Iran. For the details, including suggestions to turn the movement away from the paralysis which waiting for a new investigation puts us in, watch it if you haven't. ~ ch


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