Wednesday, March 21, 2007

Deconstructing the Scholars

Kudos to commenter Debunking911 for pointing this one out. Here's a pretty good dissection of the "Scholars".

Proclaiming fellow 911 conspiracy kooks and their claims to be part of a "disinformation" campaign is one way to attempt to try to distance oneself from the people and claims. Additionally pretending that the "opposition" feels it necessary to instigate a "disinformation" campaign to flood the conspiracy camps with ever-increasingly outrageous and insane notions makes the conspiracy believers feel important and noticed by their enemies.


I don't agree with everything he has to say. For example, he claims:

Atta had been a CIA asset for many years, a man who worked for the United States government even before the Bush regime hijacked the 2000 Presidential Election.


He also says that the Bush Administration is a fascist regime, which is risible. But overall, his analysis of the 9-11 kooks is right on the money.

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23 Comments:

At 21 March, 2007 10:03, Blogger spoonfed said...

Rosie O'Donnell has gone public on 9/11.

Soon all the soccer moms around the country will know about building 7.

NEWSFLASH - more people are waking up everyday and your site isn't working!

16% believe the official story.

Maybe it has something to do with trusting those lying eyes.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:24, Blogger spoonfed said...

the smell of desperation here is quite sweet.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:26, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

Eh? It's your side who are pointing to videos on YouTube and saying "Look at that - the building seems to be falling too quickly/those look like explosions on the side of the building/it looks like a CD - it must be a conspiracy!". It's our side that's going beyond visual evidence and actually talking to people who have a clue about demolitions and basic physics.

Besides, why should any of us take you seriously as a truth-teller when you rehash the tired old "84% question the official story" bollocks?

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:36, Blogger spoonfed said...

Hey Der Bruno -- you CREATIONIST!

You're denial of science is dangerous!

Again don't believe those lying eyes -- better trust the administration that is completely corrupt and taking away out civil liberties and sold us on a false war.

Yeah you sound like a creationist -- the whole lot of you!

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:38, Blogger spoonfed said...

you guys are completely desperate --

don't you see your popular mechanics book didnt work -- more people have woken up!

Denial is not a river in egypt.

Except for creationists like you !

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:38, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

You're denial of science is dangerous!

How many qualified scientists are on your side again? You know, not whack jobs who think they're going to discover cold fusion, but people who actually know something about demolition of buildings, explosives, gravity, all the things that would actually be fucking relevant?

'Til then, you're just spouting hot air.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:41, Blogger spoonfed said...

And you're in denial about Global Warming! The whole lot of you!

Creationists! Global Warming doubterts!

desperate, desperate, desperate ... it's sad really.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:46, Blogger spoonfed said...

Let's talk about Global Warming and Darwin -- yeah thats the ticket.

It reminds me of the same arguments I hear .... blah blah blah.

Steven Jones Ad Hominem attacks -- desperate , desperate, desperate.

Spouting hot air? hardly. Just look at the 9/11 truth movement -- it's not going away. As aa matter of fact it's booming. Guess no one believes your Creationist/Global Warming doubting scientists.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:46, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

Wake me up when you have something substantial, interesting and relevant to say, spoonfed. I'm expecting a long nap.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:50, Blogger Stevew said...

Hey spooney
What were your qualifications again?
You know, the qualifications that allow you to make assessments about what it takes for buildings to fall?
What school granted you a degree in architectural engineering?
What school educated you in civil engineering?
What institution of higher education matriculated you with training in structural dynamics?
C'mon, tell us so we can guage your credibility.How many engineering studies have you done?
How many engineers have you hired to due to analysis you can't?
How many FOIA requests have you filed?
How many legal cases have your launched?
How many people have you personally contacted and interviewed?
Tell us about all your mechanical design experience
Tell us about all your mechanical design experience with Structrial Dynamics
Tell us about all your experience with aircraft investigators.
Which crashes did you investigate?
Tell us about all your mechanical design experience with airplanes.
Which ones have you worked on?
Tell us about all your experience with building design

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:50, Blogger spoonfed said...

Hey -- I heard a rumour about this site -- any truth to those rumours?

blah blah blah. Creationist! Global Warming doubters! blah blah blah.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:51, Blogger spoonfed said...

stevew --

I have a brain and two eyes.

I don't need anything more.

 
At 21 March, 2007 10:54, Blogger spoonfed said...

If your debunking science were good, questions about 9/11 would go away.

They haven't-- 9/11 truth is booming. Your tactics are old. There sooo 2006.

Sorry. You'll need to work on that.

 
At 21 March, 2007 11:17, Blogger Stevew said...

With all the crap you post you could not tell if you had a brain or not. You are nothing but a toofer child, afraid to back up your crap with facts. Come on boy put your money where your mouth is and impress us.

 
At 21 March, 2007 11:44, Blogger spoonfed said...

Steve W -- Deny that 9/11 truth is growing ... c'mon. Tell me it went away. Tell me the Popular Mechanics yellow journalist crap answered the questions. C'mon?

That's all I need to know. Then we know that you're side is winning with "The Truth".

It's drug addicts like Rush Limbaugh and Fox News who are on your side. They have no credibility.

People have questions. Period. This site does not answer them. Period.

 
At 21 March, 2007 12:27, Blogger Stevew said...

Hey spooney
What were your qualifications again?
You know, the qualifications that allow you to make assessments about what it takes for buildings to fall?

What school granted you a degree in architectural engineering?

What school educated you in civil engineering?

What institution of higher education matriculated you with training in structural dynamics?
C'mon, tell us so we can guage your credibility.

Are you afraid to answer simple questions or are you going to do what all you toofers do and answer with the same stupid questions and more on the same dumb slogans
How about a detailed explaination to back up your claims and back it up with real experts and scientific evidence that is equal to what has been put fourth by the real experts?

So far all you have done is post mindless babble and slogans

 
At 21 March, 2007 12:54, Blogger spoonfed said...

Steve--

I have not posted mindless babble. As a matter of fact, there is enough of that here already.

You folks do a good job of name calling -- and thats about it.

Who says I need 'credentials' to know something is wrong? That is a false assumption. That's nothing more than an intimidation game. Doesn't work. Save it for the playground.

I have given you a challenge : Show me that your "debunking" has sucessfully answered the questions surrounding 9/11. Show me that those questioning 9/11 are declining.


No one here will touch my claim -- If you're phony Popular Mechanics science answered the questions surrounding 9/11, then 9/11 truth would be at least shrinking, if not relegated to a small fringe group by now.

This is not the case. I don't know one person who believes the official story anymore. Friends, relatives, co-workers all have serious doubts. The myth is shattered.

 
At 21 March, 2007 12:57, Blogger shawn said...

Soon all the soccer moms around the country will know about building 7.

You mean "be told lies and pretend they know some special 'truth'".

You're denial of science is dangerous!

Your*

And why don't you people realize you're the creationists. You're the ones who don't understand basic physics.

Nothing in the "official story" goes against anything in science.

I have a brain and two eyes.

The first is questionable.

Why are you all numbskulls trolls? None of you can come in here and actually try to prove yourself, you come in and do exactly what you claim we do.

 
At 21 March, 2007 13:14, Blogger Stevew said...

Nice Tap dance sponney and you still did not answer my questions and your right your mindless babble has hijacked this thread.

We have questions for you as well so why don't you answer ours?

You are makeing the charges, are you afraid they will not stand up to our questions?

How do you know is is wrong if you don't have the knowledge to understand what happened?

No intimidation, if you have the knowledge you would shout it from the roof tops, how else can we gage your credibility?

The only questions are from you whaks that have no bearing on anything. I could walk thru any disaster and ask a myriad of questions that may sound good even if they had no bearing on what happened.

The only shrinking group is the toofers, sorry to break it to you.

You talk about PM yet offer only opinion to support your claims. How about a point by point rebuttle to back up your claims and back it up with experts in the relivent fields?

So you have 3 people who might believe you. In 5+ years I have found no one who thinks like you whaks and I am sure my circle is far larger than yours
Are you out of high school yet?

 
At 21 March, 2007 13:19, Blogger Alex said...

Ignore him, he's just a troll. Unless he poses actual legit questions, or some new info that we haven't heard before, he's not even worth acknowledging.

 
At 21 March, 2007 13:37, Blogger Stevew said...

I thought about asking him one question at a time so as not to over tax his alledged mind. Once he runs out of slogans he will run away like all the toofers do

 
At 21 March, 2007 17:44, Blogger Cl1mh4224rd said...

spoonfed said: "I have not posted mindless babble."

Rofl... Classic.

"Soon all the soccer moms around the country will know about building 7."

"Maybe it has something to do with trusting those lying eyes."

"Hey Der Bruno -- you CREATIONIST!

You're denial of science is dangerous!"

"Denial is not a river in egypt.

Except for creationists like you !"

"Creationists! Global Warming doubterts!"


But, yeah... he's troll. His creationist "insult" is very much like tempestuous' atheist "insult". It's probably based on it, too.

He may actually be trying to entertain us. *shrugs*

 
At 22 March, 2007 00:24, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

The "lying eyes" comment is particularly weird - isn't he also saying that all you need is "a brain and a pair of eyes" to see that the official story is false? Maybe his eyes have a degree in applied physics from MIT and ours don't. Doubt it, though.

 

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