All Of Thems are Disinfo!
For some bizarre reason I am on the ae911truth mailing list, so this morning I got an e-mail asking people to call up members of the New York City council and read off this script regarding how WTC7 was blown up by the illuminati using supermagiconanothermite and all. That was pretty routine, but I was especially amused by this warning midway through:
As always, two simple rules for participating in this campaign:
1) Talk only about World Trade Center Building 7, do not mention Misprision of Treason as we are not using such heavy handed tactics, but a friendlier approach with the City Council
2) Be courteous and respectful
Each morning NYC CAN informs the council members’ offices that anyone who is disrespectful, or who mentions other aspects of 9/11, is trying to sabotage the legitimate call for a proper investigation into the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7. And to ensure that opponents of truth do not undermine our effort, we will need each and every one of you to get involved and drown out their vitriolic voice with courtesy, clarity and honesty.
Hello! Disinfo? This is the majority of morons that make up your so-called movement, including I would imagine many of the people who signed your petition. How screwed up is your movement when you have to call up people you are trying to influence, and as a matter of routine, tell them not to listen to other members of the movement, because you think they are "saboteurs"?
posted by James B. @ 7:37 PM
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62 Comments:
It is a fact that there are people like Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez, Rob Balsamo, and Craig Ranke who deliberately lie--and whose behavior is so damaging to the credibility of the movement that you have to suspect that their purpose is to make us looks bad.
"you have to suspect that their purpose is to make us looks bad"
Yes, if you're an idiot.
You see, normal people (i.e. sane) already know the truthers need no help whatsoever in looking like total, utter, tin-foil hat-wearing fuckwits.
So, fires, creaking noises, pictures of gaping holes, lots of smoke, and a 110-story building falling on it, aren't enough to answer what happened to building 7?
Billman, no they're not. 'Cause for asymmetrical damage from holes and fires to cause total symmetrical collapse is downright bizarre.
Plus you've got the problem of the mechanism -- NIST claims 600 foot perimeter columns had all their floors stripped off them, showing no sign whatsoever and stood unperturbed and then collapsed from the bottom up with virtually no distortion. That's uncanny.
Hey Anonymous,
The movement has no credibility because it has no evidence to back up its insane assertions. Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez and others are just a bonus.
Paul said...
Hey Anonymous,
The movement has no credibility because it has no evidence to back up its insane assertions. Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez and others are just a bonus.
wrong, there's a lot of evidence to suspect that the official conspiracy theory is less than accurate.
The fact that nuts are associated with your movement is not a bug, it's a feature. What amuses those of us who are sane is the notion that Richard Gage is not a nut. Heck, even his wife recognized that he'd lost his mind.
Pat, by that standard, you must be a regular customer of pay-per-view pornography to soothe your aching loneliness. Or do just have your dog lick your balls Ali G style?
I just can't imagine that any self-respecting woman would touch you with a ten-foot pole. And I'm being mild.
And our dear Anonymmous continues to spout his delusinal nonsense arguments.
Dear Anonymous,
You know nothing, you have no capacity to ever know something, in fact you are nothing.
And you know this. That's why you just love this Thuther crap.
Getting into this truther nonsense does not make you intellectually superior, it does not elevate you, it doesn't make you significant or intelligent.
You see, those that actually ARE knowledgable, intelligent and sane are able to see through your transparent nonsense and see you for what you are: a looser.
There are so many disinfo agents obviously in the pay of the NWO. Alex Jones is clearly too much of a foaming nutter to be genuine. Jason Bermas is not far behind, believing in every conspiracy theory under the sun. His loutish and obnoxious behaviour calling everyone "LIAAAARRRRS!!!" on any TV or radio station that will have him has clearly been an excellent way to discredit the Truthers.
Then there is Dylan "I'm so fucking radical, dude!" Avery who is a brilliant parody of a Truther but just a tad too petulant to be believable.
Steven Jones, the nutty professor was doing well in the disinfo department but the Jesus goes to South America, HAARP speculation etc... just completely blew his cover. Even a lot of Truthers now know he's an NWO infiltrator and it takes a lot to insult their intelligence!
Richard Gage's boxes, David Ray Griffin's senile performances and Thierry Meysan's quote-mining and Eric Hufshmid's Holocaust denying should really have discredited the whole movement years ago but remarkably those NWO agents have become popular members in the Truth Movement.
In fact, it is almost as if no one can be nutty enough to discredit the Truth Movement in the eyes of the Truthers.
"wrong, there's a lot of evidence to suspect that the official conspiracy theory is less than accurate."
All of which has been completely debunked and discredited. Nothing has been accomplished but to continue to give this blog material to write about.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but asymetrical always meant irregular or non-uniform. You're basically saying "random damage" can't bring down a building? Or does asymetrical suddenly mean symetrical? Or am I just unfamiliar with the troofer meaning of the word?
How is it "downright bizarre" when I can cite you 20 different cases of steel structured building collapses due to fire before 2001 alone?
You do know that columns are made of pieces that are at a maximum, 60 feet long, and bolted together, right? There are no solid steel pieces 600 feet long. How could you even make that? I suppose its possible if you have a giant smelting plant the size of an aircraft hanger... but then how do you transport something like that?
And I suppose you're gonna tell me that due to the "asymmetrical damage" none of these columns could have broken or lost pieces or anything.
"wrong, there's a lot of evidence to suspect that the official conspiracy theory is less than accurate."
Sure, if you're a puling lackwit conspiracy monger.
"... but then how do you transport something like that?"
Teleportation, you silly goose.
The Illuminati have been using it for centuries.
{oh, just in case the ignorant and gullible twoooofers™ don't get it: /satire}
Irony, satire, humor, speculation, does not compute in the troofer mind. Its why they believe this bunk in the first place. The only thing they understand is trolling on blogs to threaten violence (Arhoolie) or just plain arrogance (Brian Good, Boris Epstien) or self righteousness (Jon Gold).
Anything else is just egotistical masturbating for them.
It is a fact that there are people like Kevin Barrett, William Rodriguez, Rob Balsamo, and Craig Ranke who deliberately lie
Funny, they said the same thing about you.
Ha ha!
But it really is funny, isn't it that Truthers are so paranoid about disinfo agents slipping in bullshit.
They actually do get worked up about the idea that people are paid to make up all kinds of stupid phoney beliefs that some of their members might think are true.
I can see what their problem is: there really is no easy way to distinguish between the nutty and the supernutty.
What exactly do the troofers think 9/11 was "staged" for? Because the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan haven't exactly worked out very well. We're still there, there's no extra oil coming out of those countries, and Bush and co. certainly aren't richer.... the U.S. isn't exactly controlling the world or Iran wouldn't exist right now. So what has been the big pay off for the government? Dylan Avery's title of his film implies it was done for "Loose Change" I.e. the "trillions" or "billions" of gold that was under the towers, thats already been debunked down to like, a few million. So Dylan should change the name of his film.
So, was it done for "put options" then? The Democrats control the house right now, so you can't say it was for Bush's side to get political power.
The only benefit I can see was that Bush got to invade Iraq and finish desposing Saddam. And that hasn't worked out very well at all, has it?
So troofers, seriously, what has been the benefits reaped by the NWO since they "staged" 9/11? Or was it just a huge clusterfuck that didn't turn out right, and only the "enlightened troofers" have been able to figure that out?
Billman, is this the kind of logic that claims that Bushco didn't want to invade Iraq because it is now a mess? What kind of weird disconnected backwards reasoning is that?
humor does not compute in the troofer mind. Its why they believe this bunk in the first place.
Yup. A sense of humor requires the ability to recognize something as absurd. If Truthers could recognize the absurd, they wouldn't be truthers. Being a conspiracy believer and having a sense of humor are mutually exclusive.
Anonymous, I'm not trying to attack you, but do you seriously have a reading comprehension problem? Did I not just post that Bush invaded Iraq primarily for the purpose of deposing Saddam?
How else has it benefitted the NWO? Explain that to me. Because all I see is a war that's gone on 14 times longer that originally promised, has become increasingly unpopular, but we can't exactly just pull out and let someone like Iran will just invade the country...
How is this somehow connected to an inside jobby job on 9/11? Please explain my backwards thinking at not being able to link the two.
Yeah, so where did I say that Bush DIDN'T want to invade Iraq?
"The only benefit I can see was that Bush got to invade Iraq and finish desposing Saddam. And that hasn't worked out very well at all, has it?"
Oh, I don't know, we killed literally thousands and thousands of islamofascist thugs on the way to defeating al Queda in Iraq, liberated 30 million people and have the fragile beginnings of a democratic government in the heart of the Middle East.
Sounds pretty positive to me.
Bush done good.
No, Lazarus, I agree with you. Just how is 9/11 inside jobby job connected to that? Because it was all staged to blow up Iraq, right? So how does anything either of us mentioned benefit the alleged NWO?
"So how does anything either of us mentioned benefit the alleged NWO?"
Ummmm......
Uuuuuuu.......
BOOOOOSH!!!!!!!!!!
My doctor is disinfo. He tol be that the reason I've been getting headcaches, blacking out and hallucinating is because I've ot a 'massive, advanced tumour which needs operating on or it'll most assuredly kill you' in my head. He's not fooling me though; I know it's an RFID chip that they NWO put in there when they drugged me, abducted me and held me in a FEMA camp, so that they could read my thoughts and try to prevent their house of cards falling down courtesy of the important work of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
*cough* *cough*
Heh. That's what I thought. So now it becomes... I don't know.. "Bush just really didn't like those 3000 people and had them killed", right troofers?
Some those people were kids. I think there was a 2, 3, and a 4 year old on flight 175. 5 children under age 10 on flight 77, and 17 year old kid and a baby in the twin towers.
I can't find how killing them is a pretense for anything logical.
What about Brian "Stalker" Good? He's clearly disinfo with his "meatball on a fork is a metaphor" crap.
Okay, I have figured it out. Based on all the "evidence" and what has happened in the last 8 years (cause now were entering even long term benefits territory) , and based on all the inconsistant troof conspiracies...
9/11 MUST have been an inside job staged for the sole purpose of creating a conspiracy movement that it would just discredit anyway. So its just a highly lethal paradoxical prank pulled on the future people who would find something wrong with it.
Oh, I don't know, we killed literally thousands and thousands of islamofascist thugs on the way to defeating al Queda in Iraq, liberated 30 million people and have the fragile beginnings of a democratic government in the heart of the Middle East.
You really think that, don't you?
Well, Triterope, I would say that's the general idea... wether its been or is ever going to be successful is something else.
"You really think that, don't you?"
Don't you?
al Queda in Iraq?
And all this time I thought they were in Afghanistan and now Pakistan. And that Saddam was not exactly a fan of OBL ever since OBL wanted to build an army to kick Iraq out of Kuwait. Of course kicking out Saddam took a lot of pressure off Iran.
You know I met idiots who actually thought Iran had something to do with 9/11, well because That chimp GWB made it sound that way. Of course they also thought Obama was an socialist Arab.
"And that Saddam was not exactly a fan of OBL ever since OBL wanted to build an army to kick Iraq out of Kuwait."
You really think that, don't you?
Don't you?
No. I think the description you posted is incredibly simple-minded.
For starters, the idea that "30 million Iraqis" all think or want any one thing is ridiculous. There are deep, deep divisions in that country, and there have been for a very long time. There's Shia vs. Sunni Islam, ethnic Kurds in the north who want autonomy, and a thousand regional conflicts with interwoven ethnic, religious and political meaning. At best, it's like trying to keep Yugoslavia together.
Statements like "liberating people" sound nice, and aren't entirely untrue -- Saddam Hussein was an evil bastard -- but they oversimplify it all. We're not returning the Iraqi people to a life they once had, lost, and have long yearned for. We're forcing them into a new life, a foreign, secular, western-style government they've never had before. And they're rightly suspicious, in light of the complex relationship the U.S. has had with Iraq over the years.
Was the invasion of Iraq the right thing to do? I dunno. I hope it turns out that it was. But after almost a decade of US involvement in Iraq, I think it's fair to say that the "freedom-loving Iraqi people" have mixed feelings about the whole thing.
" Dave Kyte said...
al Queda in Iraq?
And all this time I thought they were in Afghanistan and now Pakistan."
Ummmm....
They are.
"Triterope said...
Don't you?
No. I think the description you posted is incredibly simple-minded.
For starters, the idea that "30 million Iraqis" all think or want any one thing is ridiculous."
Ah, the simple minded dark skinned people have no idea what's good for them.
"Statements like "liberating people" sound nice, and aren't entirely untrue -- Saddam Hussein was an evil bastard -- but they oversimplify it all."
Why?
"We're not returning the Iraqi people to a life they once had, lost, and have long yearned for."
That's why it's called "liveration".
"We're forcing them into a new life, a foreign, secular, western-style government they've never had before."
We've done it before.
" And they're rightly suspicious, in light of the complex relationship the U.S. has had with Iraq over the years."
Suspect away. all we wanna do is get the hell out of there.
"Was the invasion of Iraq the right thing to do? I dunno. I hope it turns out that it was. But after almost a decade of US involvement in Iraq, I think it's fair to say that the "freedom-loving Iraqi people" have mixed feelings about the whole thing."
It's called "hope". There is a better way of life that tribal despotism, and we are showing the way.
Shia vs. Sunni? First Transformers, then Indiana Jones... now this? Is there anything Shia can't screw up?
Aww... "debunker" dissension.
You are all the same mentally crippled fucktards to me though.
Bush went into Iraq for natural resources and geostrategic purposes. Even Greenspan admitted it.
Osama gave Bush carte blanche. 9/11 to his (war) cabinet was a godsend. Maybe that's why some people think the hawks in the Bush cabinet knew. And no, Bush isn't stupid. He was just cultivating his image as common guy, while he was actually a spoiled, pampered frat boy for most of his life.
Now, please continue yammering on with that retarded, America-centric, delusional, "exceptionalist" and undereducated Yankee poop talk.
"You are all the same mentally crippled fucktards to me though.
Bush went into Iraq for natural resources and geostrategic purposes. Even Greenspan admitted it.
Osama gave Bush carte blanche. 9/11 to his (war) cabinet was a godsend. Maybe that's why some people think the hawks in the Bush cabinet knew. And no, Bush isn't stupid. He was just cultivating his image as common guy, while he was actually a spoiled, pampered frat boy for most of his life.
Now, please continue yammering on with that retarded, America-centric, delusional, "exceptionalist" and undereducated Yankee poop talk."
Can someone translate that into Sane for me?
Thank you.
Yes. In sanese, it says: "You are a huge fucktard with a below average size brain, and your come-backs are extremely weak. Furthermore, had you acquired rudimentary reading skills in grammar school you wouldn't have had to hide behind illiteracy now, and you wouldn't have had to beg for translation."
" Anonymous said...
Yes. In sanese, it says: "You are a huge fucktard with a below average size brain, and your come-backs are extremely weak. Furthermore, had you acquired rudimentary reading skills in grammar school you wouldn't have had to hide behind illiteracy now, and you wouldn't have had to beg for translation.""
Could someone translate this blather into Sane for me?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, in abridged sanese it says: "You are a huge fucktard who needs to be told everything twice."
Well, calling us all fucktards has certainly done it for me. 9/11 was an inside jobby job!!!!! Alert the media! Set up a new investigation!
When you finally get laid and release all that hostility through whatever sexual activity you have with that fat chick, or 10 year old boy, or clone sheep (whatever you're into that's currently rejecting you), you'll stop believing this troofer crap.
In the meantime, posting angry self-deluded arrogant comments and insults, while funny for us all, just makes you look like a desperate ass who's resorted to child-ish tactics because he knows we're all on the the fact that you're full of shit, and don't even know it.
Whacking off to Steven Jone's magic thermite paper might help release some tension.
" Anonymous said...
Yes, in abridged sanese it says: "You are a huge fucktard who needs to be told everything twice.""
Can someone translate this blather into Sane for me?
Thanks in advance.
....and then PornBoy said,and then Bilbo said,and then Trite the Dopeyfuck said,and then PornBoy said,and then Bilbo again,and then Tritedopey again and then Bilbo,and then more PornBoy..you get the picture.
" Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...
....and then PornBoy said,and then Bilbo said,and then Trite the Dopeyfuck said,and then PornBoy said,and then Bilbo again,and then Tritedopey again and then Bilbo,and then more PornBoy..you get the picture."
Could someone translate this from Retardese into English?
Thank you.
If my Retardese of the southern fucktard dialect is correct, by point out a pattern to our posts, Arhoolie is implying that he has somehow proved 9/11 was an inside jobby job.
Lazarus: sure. In abridged abridged sanese for the mentally handicapped eggplants, it says: "You are a huge fucktard."
"Anonymous said...
Lazarus: sure. In abridged abridged sanese for the mentally handicapped eggplants, it says: "You are a huge fucktard.""
Could someone translte this sense free rambling into Sane for me?
Thanks.
Sure. In sanese for totally handicapped, catatonic, comatose jelly brains, it says: "Huge fucktard". There is one more level down, but that's usually reserved for gradients of utter stupidity never observed before in the entire galaxy.
"Anonymous said...
Sure. In sanese for totally handicapped, catatonic, comatose jelly brains, it says: "Huge fucktard". There is one more level down, but that's usually reserved for gradients of utter stupidity never observed before in the entire galaxy."
IS there a Babelfish Insane to English translator available?
Cause this short bus riding window licker is making NO sense at all.
"Heck,even his wife recognized that he'd lost his mind"!! Paddy the Insane Circle Jerk Guru sure has things sussed,don't he?!? The Debunker Cult:they're experts on everything!!!
"The Debunker Cult"
Lather.
Rinse.
Repeat.
And you too can swirl down the twoooofer™ toilet bowl into paranoid insanity.
"IS there a Babelfish Insane to English translator available?"
Sure. The translation in sanese for people whose brain is functionally identical to a glasshouse plant, is "Fucktard".
However, this is a new low, never before reached in the history of sanese translations!
Congratulations Laz!!11!1
Memo to truthers:
Instead of calling people 'fucktards', how about doing something really amazing, like substantiating your claims about 9/11 with something members of the non-spastic community call 'evidence'?
That would be nice.
Thanks for that enlightening edict.
Here's my memo: you're a fucktard.
One key feature of chronic fucktardism: compulsive blackballing of inconvenient evidence, akin to transplant rejection; and a habitual fact-averse denialist mentality.
"One key feature of chronic fucktardism: compulsive blackballing of inconvenient evidence, akin to transplant rejection; and a habitual fact-averse denialist mentality."
Could someone translate this pile of dog crap from Teh Krazy into Sane?
Thank you.
Sure! In Sanese for brainless mongoloids it says: "Fucktard".
"Anonymous said...
Sure! In Sanese for brainless mongoloids it says: "Fucktard"."
"English, muthafucka, do you speak it?"
Yes! My favorite word: "fucktard"!
And you are one!
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