Friday, March 12, 2010

The Horror of Censorship

Or, the inconsistency of Troofers. Hilariously, the dolts are all up in arms over Jesse Ventura's 9-11 fruitcake rant being removed from the Huffington Post:

"I can't believe the Huffington Post today will practice censorship," Ventura says in astonishment. "I've got news for them. ... I won't ever write for 'em again."


Of course the Huffington Post has had a long-standing policy against posting 9-11 nuttery, and while that policy has been inconsistently enforced (see here, here and here for examples of Truthiness that have been allowed to stand), it is at least well-known.

And where do the Troofers get off complaining about censorship? Do they allow me to post at 9-11 Flogger? Not on your life; I was banned over there years ago. Would they let me post at Truth Action? I haven't tried registering, but I was pretty quickly banned from their chatroom. Do they allow non-Troofers to post at the Debunkers blog? Of course not.

Here's the Body himself on the always reliably Troofer-friendly Russia Today:

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37 Comments:

At 12 March, 2010 17:20, Blogger amandarmerry said...

So, when did Jesse Ventura start looking like Doc Brown?

 
At 12 March, 2010 17:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 12 March, 2010 18:36, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Doc Brown, Riff Raff, the village idiot ... certainly not the tough guy who didn't have time to bleed.

 
At 12 March, 2010 18:39, Blogger Billman said...

Looks like he finally has time to bleed all he cares to.

 
At 12 March, 2010 23:23, Blogger hauptcouture2009 said...

from http://friendfeed.com/ewing2001

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yet another 2006/07-ish coOpted truither bullshit campaign: “Building What?!” by Bob McIlvaine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9meDbrlP8 +++ i also disagree with simon shack here *again. Bob is not smart enough to be an "actor". I know him personally since 2002. He first got systematically oppressed, censored and then brainwashed by Kyle Hence, and after that maybe from even more sinister 'insiders'. All he represents is a fool, a robotized 'microphone' and puppet in the hand of an Orwellianized DoubleThink Movement, run by bechtel- and privatized, pro-europe leaning defense contractor assholes; I am also sure he never heard about EADS, Thales and co. and doesn't know anything about Directed Energy Weapons. The Orwellian Truthers "wiped" out his last brain cells. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9meDbrlP8

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and more bullshit truther trash tv from the Jesse Ventura Front, rofl ; 3/10/10 Jesse Ventura Discusses 9/11 Conspiracies on The View http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVtpUMp0-fo with lousy, most likely authentic 2,463 views only, uploaded by truthling uploader minnesotachris on
March 10, 2010 ;

 
At 12 March, 2010 23:43, Blogger Pat said...

Actually what I was most reminded of is the guy who played Scrooge in the early 1950s black and white version.

 
At 13 March, 2010 05:51, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

It's not "censorship" on a private web site.

 
At 13 March, 2010 05:51, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

It's not "censorship" on a private web site.

 
At 13 March, 2010 08:24, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

All Ventura is saying, "Look, if you decide to practice censorhip, I ain't gonna' write for your website no more." Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

As for your "truthers are all censorship all the time" - well, I don't practice it on my blogs.

 
At 13 March, 2010 08:33, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Actually, the part I missed (and also the part Pat failed to cover) is that Ventura had been asked to be a contributing editor at HuffPo - so naturally, when after that he was censored that upset him.

Why - he is 100% right in this situation, as far as I can tell.

 
At 13 March, 2010 09:20, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Ventura had been asked to be a contributing editor at HuffPo"

Huff N Puff:

Reactionary leftists, fascists, anti-semites and Twoooofers™.

Great site you got going there, Arianna.

 
At 13 March, 2010 09:58, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'Actually what I was most reminded of is the guy who played Scrooge in the early 1950s black and white version.'

Alistair Sim?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alastair_SimB%26W.jpg

Incidentally Boris, can you spot the difference between a statement like this?:

'Common names or not, the biggest problem - or one of the biggest - is that the people listed as hijackers and looking like whoever was on the photos of alleged hijackers, have since allegedly surfaced very much alive.'

And this?:

'Mr B, I do not know if those people are still alive. Nor do I know if the story that there were people claiming to be erroneously identified as hijackers were (sic) correct to begin with.'

 
At 13 March, 2010 10:17, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

sackcloth and ashes said...

Incidentally Boris, can you spot the difference between a statement like this?:

'Common names or not, the biggest problem - or one of the biggest - is that the people listed as hijackers and looking like whoever was on the photos of alleged hijackers, have since allegedly surfaced very much alive.'

And this?:

'Mr B, I do not know if those people are still alive. Nor do I know if the story that there were people claiming to be erroneously identified as hijackers were (sic) correct to begin with.'


Yes, the first statement somewhat expands on clarifies the first.

 
At 13 March, 2010 10:40, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

....and then Patrick the Ninny from Cincy said and then Bilbo Baggins said and then Nico Haupt said and then Paddie (up at the crack of dawn!!) said and then PornBoy said and then Soldier Boyo said.......you get the message.

 
At 13 March, 2010 11:45, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'the first statement somewhat expands on clarifies the first.'

Er, no, Boris. In your first statement you say there is definite proof that some of the suspected hijackers are still alive, and in the second you admit that you don't have a clue.

'....and then Patrick the Ninny from Cincy said and then Bilbo Baggins said and then Nico Haupt said and then Paddie (up at the crack of dawn!!) said and then PornBoy said and then Soldier Boyo said.......you get the message.'

So why do you keep coming back here, Walt?

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:08, Blogger Urvy1A said...

I think Jesse should stick to UFOs, Big Foot, and Aliens

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:17, Anonymous Chet Ripley said...

...and then Arhoolie the self-loathing Jew said and then Boris the smartest guy in the world said...you get the message.

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:43, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Arhoolie the self-loathing Jew.Hmmm.What's the frequency Kenneth? And can anyone imagine a dumber debunker than General Curtis E.PornBoy? Gee,I wonder who Chester the Molester really is.You're treading on dangerous ground,jackoff.And Sackschnook,I love kicking your ass up and down the main street of Greenford.It's fun to watch you stick your moldy feet in your mouth in that special anal retentive way you do!!

 
At 13 March, 2010 14:28, Anonymous Roman Craig said...

"You're treading on dangerous ground,jackoff"

I really doubt that.

Here - try this asshole:

http://www.therapyideas.net/self-hatred.htm

 
At 13 March, 2010 15:02, Blogger bacci40 said...

i dont get ventura

he is right on so many things

torture, the corporate takeover of america, the problems with the two party system

he is not a stupid man

how he could fall for the troofer crap is beyond me

 
At 13 March, 2010 15:59, Anonymous Troofers R Us said...

how you could think he isn't stupid is beyond me

dumbfuck!

 
At 13 March, 2010 16:05, Anonymous New Yorker said...

All Ventura is saying, "Look, if you decide to practice censorhip, I ain't gonna' write for your website no more." Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

Such a loss!

As for your "truthers are all censorship all the time" - well, I don't practice it on my blogs.

Nobody reads your blogs, so you can't censor anyone in the first place.

Also, as Lazarus Long said, a private website deciding who can and cannot post is not censorship. I'd love an Op Ed at the New York Times, but they aren't "censoring" me if I don't get one.

Let me know when the government jails Ventura (or any other "truther") for their idiocy and I'll agree with you about censorship. Hell, even Barrett's borderline treason isn't getting him in trouble.

 
At 13 March, 2010 18:52, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Arhoolie said...
....and then Patrick the Ninny from Cincy said and then Bilbo Baggins said and then Nico Haupt said and then Paddie (up at the crack of dawn!!) said and then PornBoy said and then Soldier Boyo said.......you get the message."

Um....no.

You want to clarify?

 
At 13 March, 2010 18:54, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"he is not a stupid man"

Well, yes, he is.

He was a fucking wrasseler for Cthulu's sake.

 
At 13 March, 2010 21:41, Blogger angrysoba said...

What kind of threat is it that some Mongoloid moron refuses to write any more articles?

It would be a bigger threat to say he was going to write more.

That'll learn 'em!

 
At 13 March, 2010 21:43, Blogger angrysoba said...

he is not a stupid man

I need a laughing dog, right here.

Yes, he is a stupid man and so are you for thinking otherwise.

 
At 14 March, 2010 04:50, Blogger Triterope said...

a private website deciding who can and cannot post is not censorship. I'd love an Op Ed at the New York Times, but they aren't "censoring" me if I don't get one.

Yup. Affirmed by the Supreme Court in Tornillo v. Miami Herald.

 
At 14 March, 2010 21:40, Blogger chava said...

You guys are good at everything but answering/debating the physics and engineering which indicates irrefutable proof of controlled demolition and opens up a litny of other issues.
Bring on all your certified architects and engineers...hmmm Gross and Sunder, under what rock are they hiding? Its a simple debate, you guys claim you are correct, lets settle it once and for all. Call up your pals at NIST and tell them its time to shut up the 1100 [and growing] Architects and Engineers. If your going to talk it, walk it.

Oh, another debate we can put together, the issue of superthermite. Get your peer reviewed group of physicists to take on Dr. Jones group. Call up your pals at NIST, they actually know a whole lot about superthermite. NIST is one of the leaders in superthermite development. They know what are the red/gray chips.

Here is a quick example you can use as debunking ammo. 2/9/2009 Mandarin Oriental Hotel 44 story total inferno. Steel and concrete structure still standing after fire is put out. WTC #7 47 floors, small isolated fires, turns into a pile of rubble 7 hours later.

 
At 14 March, 2010 23:52, Blogger angrysoba said...

Gross and Sunder, under what rock are they hiding? Its a simple debate, you guys claim you are correct, lets settle it once and for all. Call up your pals at NIST and tell them its time to shut up the 1100 [and growing] Architects and Engineers. If your going to talk it, walk it.


They've probably got better uses to put their knowledge to than arguing on the Internet with screwballs.

 
At 15 March, 2010 02:07, Blogger chava said...

Oh good one angrysoba.

Still, no one steps to the plate to settle the issues. We are waiting for the liars and deniars to gather up their engineering/physics team and accurately refute the scientific findings as forwarded by 1100 A/E and 9 global peer reviewed physicists.

Gross, Sunder and Bazant have every reason to come forward to defend their work? Its industry protocol to defend ones research.

WHY ARE YOU WAITING? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?

WHY ARE WAITING?

 
At 15 March, 2010 08:28, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'And Sackschnook,I love kicking your ass up and down the main street of Greenford'.

You couldn't kick the arse of a ten-month old puppy, Walt. You're a cyber-hero and a real piece of chicken-shit. FOAD.

 
At 15 March, 2010 09:03, Anonymous Troofers R Us said...

Hey! I'm a huge fan of Dr. Jones. Especially love this version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buXJlBd3Mf8

 
At 15 March, 2010 13:12, Anonymous Cyberhero said...

I've finally made it!!! I'm a cyber hero and SackofSoiledDiapers thinks he's being arch and ironic!!!!

 
At 16 March, 2010 06:53, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Oh, another debate we can put together, the issue of superthermite."

Og this just keeps getting better and better.

 
At 17 March, 2010 02:29, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'I've finally made it!!! I'm a cyber hero and SackofSoiledDiapers thinks he's being arch and ironic!!!!'

I'm not being ironic, Walt. I genuinely think you're a waste of DNA, and that if you had any shred of self-awareness you'd top yourself.

 
At 18 March, 2010 11:37, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-hero said...

Good news,SackofMarmite responds promptly to his names now!! Onward Christian SoldierBoy!!!

 
At 19 March, 2010 06:38, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'Good news,SackofMarmite responds promptly to his names now!! Onward Christian SoldierBoy!!!'

Still waiting for you to prove that Rigi was a CIA asset, Walt.

 

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