Saturday, November 26, 2011

Washington's Blog Dumps 9-11 Truth (Mostly), Starts Getting Cited

You may recall Washington's blog used to get cited mostly by 9-11 Blogger. Run by Alex Floum, Washington's Blog highlighted the nuttery back in the day.
Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated that 9/11 was an inside job.
But lately, Alex has dropped the 9-11 Troof focus, purchased a website, added a few more posters (including Crackpot Carl Herman) and suddenly his blog has become respectable, at least among the wackadoodle left. For example, Naomi Wolf cites him in an article today:
In New York, a state supreme court justice and a New York City council member were beaten up; in Berkeley, California, one of our greatest national poets, Robert Hass, was beaten with batons. The picture darkened still further when Wonkette and Washingtonsblog.com reported that the Mayor of Oakland acknowledged that the Department of Homeland Security had participated in an 18-city mayor conference call advising mayors on "how to suppress" Occupy protests.
(Bolding added for emphasis) I have also seen Washington's Blog cited numerous times at Memeorandum, a major blog aggregator and traffic builder. The only evidence that Washington's Blog is run by a 9-11 crackpot is one of their links in the sidebar:
Truth (or Fiction?) . 911 Blogger
Of course, that's not to say they've suddenly become sane; just good enough at feigning sanity to get linked by major sites. If you know what to look for, you can see the crazy. For example, this post:
Bush and Blair Found Guilty of War Crimes George W. Bush and Tony Blair have been found guilty of war crimes for committing crimes against humanity during the Iraq war. Granted, it was not the U.S., or England or any other Western country … but Malaysia.
Malaysia, Malaysia, where have we heard of that country around here? Wasn't a former prime minister a 9-11 Truther?
Later, during a question-and-answer session, Dr Mahathir said he had doubts that the collapse of the World Trade Centre in New York was actually caused by terrorists crashing planes into the towers. He said the buildings had collapsed in an orderly manner with such military precision that it all seemed well planned. “I can believe that they (the United States) would kill 3,000 of their own to have an excuse to kill 650,000 Iraqis. These are the kind of people we are dealing with. Please don't think this is fiction.”
And yes, Dr Mahathir was part of that Malaysian panel that found Bush and Blair guilty. Glenn Greenwald was suckered into posting about it.
A tribunal in Malaysia, spearheaded by that nation’s former Prime Minister, yesterday found George Bush and Tony Blair guilty of “crimes against peace” and other war crimes for their 2003 aggressive attack on Iraq, as well as fabricating pretexts used to justify the attack.
(Bolding added for emphasis) Here's confirmation it was Mahathir:
The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian premier Mahathir Mohamad - a fierce critic of the Iraq war - found the former leaders guilty after a four-day hearing.

181 Comments:

At 26 November, 2011 10:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

Isn't Mahathir Mohamad an anti-Semite?

"...They [Jews] invented socialism, communism, human rights, and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong, so that they can enjoy equal rights with others. With these, they have now gained control of the most powerful countries, and they, this tiny community, have become a world power." -- Mahathir Mohamad, 2010.

"...We do not want to say that this is a plot by the Jews, but in reality it is a Jew who triggered the currency plunge, and coincidentally Soros is a Jew. It is also a coincidence that the Malaysians are mostly Muslim." -- Mahathir Mohamad, 1997.

"...The Jews for example are not merely hook-nosed, but understand money instinctively." -- Mahathir Mohamad, 1970.

"...[Jews] had always been a problem in European countries. They had to be confined to ghettoes and periodically massacred. But still they remained, they thrived and they held whole governments to ransom" -- Mahathir Mohamad, 2010.

If you can’t call a guy who argues that "Jews rule the world by proxy" an anti-Semite, then who can you?

It sounds to me like old Dr. Mahathir Mohamad would make a great candidate for the KKK or a Malaysian analogue of David Duke (ie., the "wackadoodle," fascist right).

Of course, there's nothing strange or unusual about an alleged member of the "wackadoodle left" (e.g., Alex Floum) who cites a confirmed member of the wackadoodle, fascist right (e.g., Mahathir Mohamad), I suppose. So we should move on and avoid any precise distinctions that might be embarrassing for the "wackadoodle" right.

 
At 26 November, 2011 13:10, Blogger Pat said...

Bill, there exists both a wackadoodle left and a wackadoodle right. But I don't have any question about which of those labels fits Naomi Wolf, do you? And that's who cited Washington's blog.

 
At 26 November, 2011 13:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

Wasn't Naomi Wolf arrested in New York during the Occupy Wall Street protests on 20 October 2011? Of course, if you have nothing but contempt for the OWS movement, it's probably a good idea to smear her as a member of the "wackadoodle left." And, of course, it's probably a good idea to avoid any mention of her dismissal of the 9/11 "truth movement." We should probably move on, because there's nothing unusual about that omission, I suppose.

That said, it would probably be a good idea to move on and avoid any embarrassing facts, because you certainly wouldn't want to lead the gentle reader to any unwanted conclusions about the "wackadoodle" right and their de facto creation and control of the allegedly "wackadoodle" "left-controlled" 9/11 "truth movement."

For example, Eric Hufschmid, a "software engineer" with family ties to Rupert Murdoch and a history of vicious anti-Semitism. Of course, there's nothing strange or unusual about Mr. Hufschmid's right wing connections or "wackadoodle" far right ideology. So responsible journalists will ignore the aforementioned embarrassing facts.

Richard Gage, a San Francisco Bay area based architect, who founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in 2006. Gage is a self-proclaimed Republican.

Steven E. Jones, former BYU professor of Physics, co-chair of Scholars for 9/11 Truth up until 5 December 2006, who's described as "a devout Mormon." Jones, like Richard Gage, is a self-proclaimed Republican.

Uncle Fetzer, professor emeritus of philosophy of science and on the theoretical foundations of computer science, artificial intelligence, and cognitive science at the University of Minnesota Duluth. Fetzer, the reader will recall, is a rabid JFK assassination (disinformation) theorist, who spent four years as a commissioned officer in the Marine Corps. Of course, the Marine Corps is a hotbed of "wackadoodle" leftists, so responsible journalists will move on and pay no attention to any of Professor Fetzer's real "wackadoodle" right wing connections.

So yes, we should move on, because there's certainly nothing unusual about any of that, I suppose. It is, you know, a small world and all that. And, I suppose, you certainly wouldn't want the reader to come to any unwanted conclusions about the "wackadoodle" right.

 
At 26 November, 2011 16:50, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

It sounds to me like old Dr. Mahathir Mohamad would make a great candidate for the KKK or a Malaysian analogue of David Duke (ie., the "wackadoodle," fascist right).

The KKK was founded by Democrats.

 
At 26 November, 2011 17:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

RGT wrote, "...The KKK was founded by Democrats."

Actually, the KKK was founded by former slave trader and Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest. He believed that blacks were voting for the Republican Party because they were alleged dupes of the Loyal Leagues.

The KKK, however, has morphed over the years into what Wikipedia describes as a "far right" organization dedicated to "extremist reactionary currents such as white supremacy, white nationalism, and anti-immigration, historically expressed through terrorism. Since the mid-20th century, the KKK has also been anti-communist."

Yep, the KKK sounds like a hotbed of "wackadoodle" leftist Democrats to me, I suppose.

Today, the KKK is divorced from the Democratic Party. The KKK's opposition to the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s compelled them to support the Republicans. In addition, according to the ADL, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) has largely replaced to KKK by "[s]triking hard-right positions on such contentious issues as immigration, gun control and affirmative action," and "[w]hile not every CCC chapter may be equally extreme, all are founded on anti-minority bigotry." The CCC "has insinuated itself into the mainstream successfully enough to attract a number of prominent conservative politicians to its gatherings," including Senator Trent Lott; Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour; Mississippi state senators Gary Jackson and Dean Kirby; and several Mississippi state representatives. Former state governors connected to the CCC include Guy Hunt of Alabama and Kirk Fordice of Mississippi. The CCC maintains close ties to former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke, Mark Cotterill, Chris Temple, Jared Taylor and Paul Fromm.

Of course, there's nothing unusual about that, I suppose. So we should overlook the KKK and CCC's connections to the modern-day Republican Party, because you certainly wouldn't want the reader to come to any unwanted conclusions about the "wackadoodle" right.

Move along, nothing to see here, folks...

 
At 26 November, 2011 17:50, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

The KKK, however, has morphed over the years into what Wikipedia describes as a "far right" organization

Guilt-by-association is valid for judging right-wing connections, but left-wing connections get the benefit of perspective?

 
At 26 November, 2011 18:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Do you deny that white racists were folded into the Republican Party in opposition to the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s?

And what was Reagan's "southern strategy" if not an effort to harness the votes of southern "conservatives"? The same southern "conservatives," of course, who are always more than happy to supply the gasoline, wood and matches that are necessary for all well organized and sincere cross burning get togethers.

Perhaps the Republicans were merely trying to increase the scope and volume of their cake baking sales in the Deep South. Move along, nothing to see here, folks...

Again, nothing unusual about that, I suppose.

 
At 26 November, 2011 18:34, Blogger ConsDemo said...

GB, the metamorphosis of southern whites to the Republican Party spanned several decades starting in the 1960s and pretty much completed just recently. I’m no fan of the Republican Party, but I don’t think there is a high level of Republican animus towards blacks today. There is a good deal of animus towards immigrants but it isn’t limited to south or even the Republican Party necessarily.

In any case, what is your objection? 9/11 conspiratoids can easily inhabit the far left or far right. Some might have been members of the mainstream left or right at one time, but it’s impossible to be a twoofer and a functional member of the mainstream. I also wouldn’t put much stock in claims by those such as Dick Gage, maybe he was a Republican at one time but like other twoofers he exists in an ideological no-man’s land today. He cites his supposed Republican leanings merely as a tactic to make it appear that he was part of "the system" but "saw the light." A lot of these clowns were long standing kooks, Fester peddled Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories before 9/11.

There is a reason Charlie Sheen is one of the few celebrities to make no political contributions, if you buy 9/11 twoof bullshit there is no reason for you to have conventional political leanings.

 
At 26 November, 2011 18:35, Blogger Pat said...

Bill I missed that part where Naomi Wolf dismissed the Troofers. In my archives I have "Naomi Wolf coddles the Troofers" and "Naomi Wolf, Nutbar", where she starts talking about how they shipped the steel to China two days after 9-11. She also claimed that fascism was coming to America, which, unless you're one of those goofy wackadoodle leftists who think Obama is a fascist, didn't happen, right?

Sheesh, you are certainly reminding me more and more of the limited value of the comments section of this blog.

 
At 26 November, 2011 18:37, Blogger Pat said...

Oh, and yes, I pretty much have nothing but contempt for the OWS movement. Complete and utter morons in my estimation.

 
At 26 November, 2011 18:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

What's this?

Naomi Wolf gives WeAreChangeLA a message for 9/11 truth".

Let's see, Naomi Wolf lumps the 9/11 truth movement, and "conspiracy theorists" in general, in with other "patently irrational" theories.

So what were you saying, Pat?

"...Sheesh, you are certainly reminding me more and more of the limited value of the comments section of this blog."

On the contrary, the value of the comment section was lost when you permitted a well-known a widely despised pseudo-troofer to control the comments section.

But there’s nothing odd about that, I suppose, so let’s move on.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat wrote, "...Oh, and yes, I pretty much have nothing but contempt for the OWS movement. Complete and utter morons in my estimation."

Yes, millions of disenfranchised Americans, who are guilty of nothing more than exercising their right to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly, are "[c]omplete and utter morons" in the estimation of all "real Americans." The same "real Americans" who would happily deny the OWS protesters' "inalienable rights" and subject them to unjustified and grotesque police brutality. After all, the only "real Americans" are right wing, Bible-thumping trailer park dwellers who never met a billionaire they didn't love and adore. Just ask that "real American" Sarah Palin.

Again, there’s nothing odd about that, I suppose, so let’s move on.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:09, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Look on the bright side, Pat.

After all, in light of the aforementioned revelations concerning Ms. Wolf and the "patently irrational" nature of "conspiracy theorists," perhaps it's safe to assume that Naomi Wolf reads SLC.

Make no mistake, I'll be the first to admit that you're more than qualified to teach a "wackadoodle" leftist a thing or two about the real World.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:10, Blogger Pat said...

LOL! Millions? In New York they only managed to draw thousands when the unions joined in.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:24, Blogger Pat said...

Bill, please tell me that you meant to link another video in your post. You put both "conspiracy theorists" and "patently irrational" in quotes, which leads me to believe that you think Naomi said those words. I am quite simply not hearing her say that at all.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Sorry, wrong link.

"...Similarly, the “9/11 Truth Movement” asserts that al-Qaeda’s attack on the Twin Towers was an “inside job.” In the Muslim world, there is a widespread conspiracy theory that the Israelis were behind those attacks, and that all Jews who worked in the buildings stayed home that day...Usually, conspiracy theories surface where people are poorly educated and a rigorous independent press is lacking. So why are such theories gaining adherents in the US and other affluent democracies nowadays?...Today’s explosion of conspiracy theories has been stoked by the same conditions that drove their acceptance in the past: rapid social change and profound economic uncertainty. A clearly designated “enemy” with an unmistakable “plan” is psychologically more comforting than the chaotic evolution of social norms and the workings – or failures – of unfettered capitalism. And, while conspiracy theories are often patently irrational, the questions they address are often healthy, even if the answers are frequently unsourced or just plain wrong...In seeking answers, these citizens are reacting rationally to irrational realities. Many citizens believe, rightly, that their mass media are failing to investigate and document abuses. Newspapers in most advanced countries are struggling or folding, and investigative reporting is often the first thing they cut. Concentration of media ownership and control further fuels popular mistrust, setting the stage for citizen investigation to enter the vacuum...Likewise, in an age when corporate lobbyists have a free hand in shaping – if not drafting – public policies, many people believe, again rightly, that their elected officials no longer represent them. Hence their impulse to believe in unseen forces...Finally, even rational people have become more receptive to certain conspiracy theories because, in the last eight years, we actually have seen some sophisticated conspiracies. The Bush administration conspired to lead Americans and others into an illegal war, using fabricated evidence to do so. Is it any wonder, then, that so many rational people are trying to make sense of a political reality that really has become unusually opaque? When even the 9/11 commissioners renounce their own conclusions (because they were based on evidence derived from torture), is it surprising that many want a second investigation? -- Naomi Wolf, A Conspiracy So Immense.

Yeah, that Naomi Wolf is a foaming at the mouth troofer. I guess in your world sympathy equals complicity.

Again, there’s nothing odd about that, I suppose, so let’s move on.

 
At 26 November, 2011 19:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat wrote, "...LOL! Millions? In New York they only managed to draw thousands when the unions joined in."

Aren't you omitting one tiny detail, Pat?

OWS is not merely confined to New York City. And it's not merely confined to the United States, where millions are protesting the unfettered greed of their right wing mis-leaders in the financial, real estate and insurance sector. OWS is a global movement comprised of millions.

So yes, "millions" is correct.

Again, there’s nothing odd about that, I suppose, so let’s move on.

 
At 26 November, 2011 20:10, Blogger James B. said...

Dude, in Seattle, a city that managed 50,000 for the WTO riots they have around 50 people. Millions is a bit of an exageration.

 
At 26 November, 2011 20:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Really, James? No kidding?

Then perhaps you can't explain why polls show that 65% of the US population is in sympathy with the OWS. On 25 October, CBS revealed that 43% of the US agrees with OWS. So it appears that the movement is growing with every passing day.

So what's 65% of 330 million?

Again, there’s nothing odd about your assertion, I suppose, so let’s move on.

 
At 26 November, 2011 20:55, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Then perhaps you can't explain why polls show that 65% of the US population is in sympathy with the OWS. On 25 October, CBS revealed that 43% of the US agrees with OWS. So it appears that the movement is growing with every passing day.

So what's 65% of 330 million?
"

Are we quoting polls now?

Here?

The problem with OWS is they're a Rorschach test. There are so many causes bundled up one can easily find one to be "sympathetic" to.

The problem isn't Wall Street the problem is Washington, and the 50 state governments. All of that engergy has been wasted.

It's no longer a message, it's a tactic. Worse, it's a joke.

The country has real problem, and in true 21st Century American fashion OWS is nothing more than an empty gesture.

 
At 26 November, 2011 22:18, Blogger Ian said...

The problem with OWS is they're a Rorschach test. There are so many causes bundled up one can easily find one to be "sympathetic" to.

The problem isn't Wall Street the problem is Washington, and the 50 state governments. All of that engergy has been wasted.


Yeah, pretty much. I worked across the street from it (recently laid off, unfortunately) and would go talk to people and the causes ran the full gamut from the reasonable (restore Glass-Steagall and raise capital gains taxes) to the nuts (Jewish-Fed conspiracies and Maoism).

And I did say to a lot of people that the problem is not banks, per se, as they're supposed to be greedy and take risks. The problem is Washington corruption and the refusal in DC and elsewhere for government to properly regulate the banking industry.

I think MGF is to my right on the political spectrum, but I agree with his take on OWS.

 
At 27 November, 2011 07:54, Blogger Max said...

LOL - BanjoBillyBob sounds like a phucking troofer or psycho - take your pick.

 
At 27 November, 2011 09:05, Blogger J Rebori said...

The mere fact it was endorsed by the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and the COmmunist Party all within a week or two pretty much proves people could read whatever they wanted into the OWS movements positions.

It is/was unfocused and eventually ineffectual because of that. Sort of like 'Nam. No solid view of its mission and no idea of what victory would be.

 
At 27 November, 2011 10:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Max,

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

My goal was simple: [1] Expose the right wingers at the helm of the 9/11 "truth movement" and [2] prove that Naomi Wolf is not a troofer.

And I proved both points.

Is there anything you fail to understand, jackass?

Now take your "sounds like a phucking troofer or psycho" smear and shove it up your ass, troofer scum.

By the way, "Max," have you stolen anyone's identity lately?

 
At 27 November, 2011 10:49, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...The mere fact it was endorsed by the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and the COmmunist Party all within a week or two pretty much proves people could read whatever they wanted into the OWS movements positions."

No, all the alleged endorsement by "the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and the COmmunist Party" "proves" is that the far right is doing everything they can to discredit OWS.

 
At 27 November, 2011 10:54, Blogger Max said...

GuiTard William LMMFAO!!!!

You could be Brian Good's twin brother! You both share the same array of mental illness as well as the same charming wit.

I now understand your psychotic obsession with the twit. It's your twisted way of trying to climb out of the cesspool you both share.

"By the way, "Max," have you stolen anyone's identity lately?"

You're an idiot to boot - the list of people who think you are a phucktard is much longer than one person and the sock puppets they might create. Don't sell yourself short you narcissistic poster boy.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"Max,"

We both know your real identity. And we both know that you're an identity thief--not to mention an anti-Semite.

Apparently you're still upset because I exposed you as an identity thief and a liar a couple of years ago. I guess old grudges die hard, right scumbag? Well, maybe you should have thought about the consequences of deceit before you decided to lie.

So tell us Glenn, what would Craig Hawley say if he knew that you stole his photograph? Do you think the FBI might be interested to discover that you're an identity thief?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:15, Blogger Max said...

add paranoid to the list...

Sorry Sherlock - you're not even close.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:19, Blogger Max said...

forgot to say - by all means - call the FBI on me GuiTurd Bill .

Pat and James - quit laughing!

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

LOL.

I've got you by the short hairs, Glenn, and you know it.

But, then again, you're just like Brian "goat fucker" Good. After all, you'd lie to your mother if thought for one microsecond that you could gain an advantage from the lie.

So Glenn, should I inform the FBI of your activities? And how many years do you think you'll spend in prison for ID theft?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And don't try to deny it, Glenn. After all, you gave yourself away with your "BanjoBillyBob" remark.

Sharp as a marble, aren't you, Glenn?

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:27, Blogger Max said...

Do it!!!!! LMMFAO!!!

Since I live in Dallas, TX and have been posting here for several years all from the same ISP I encourage you to show the federal authorities what a complete phucking moron you are.

Make sure you share with us what they say.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:30, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You don't live in "Dallas, TX," Glenn. You live in Ft Collins, CO.

Do you always lie, Glenn?

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:38, Blogger Max said...

easy to prove - have Pat/James check the ISP.

Max

aka

Max Power
Cooper Harris
Roman Craig
Phucktard Patrol
etc...

you are an idiot billy - PLEASE call the FBI - we both know it won't happen.

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Your IP address is no secret, Glenn.

Trust me.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 
At 27 November, 2011 11:58, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So Glenn, does Jesus still talk to you about 9/11--you "phucking" nut-bag?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:01, Blogger Max said...

Have you called the FBI yet billy?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Have you learned to take a bath more than once a year, Mr. Jesus Spoke To Me About 9/11?

Do you still spam collegian.com with your insane ideas about 9/11?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:07, Blogger Max said...

Let me make I have this straight GuiTard - I'm really Glen Maxey but I don't want anyone to know it so I pick an alias name of "Max"?

Also - I am a troofer but I have used this Blogger name over the past 9 months to rip on Brian Good and his moronic troofer claims?

Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound banjo?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:10, Blogger Max said...

billy - any idea when I can expect the FBI here? I have plans to go out this evening but would really hate to miss them.

Of course this assumes you grew a pair and actually called them.

LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Not half as idiotic as you sound, Max.

So how many blogger.com sock puppets have you created, Max?

A dozen or more like you created at Alternet? Did you learn the "virtues" of sock puppets from your insane mentor, Brian "goat fucker" Good?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:14, Blogger Max said...

FBI????

Did you call yet?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...I have plans to go out this evening but would really hate to miss them."

So which dress do you plan to wear, Glenn? The green dress or the red dress?

"...Of course this assumes you grew a pair and actually called them."

That hurts, Glenn. And especially so when one considers that you're a one-balled abortion.

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:18, Blogger Max said...

should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?
should I inform the FBI of your activities?

LOL!!! All talk

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:22, Blogger GuitarBill said...

It's not "talk" at all, Glenn. And I have all the evidence that's necessary to put you away for years.

Look on the bright side, Glenn. After all, your cross-dressing experience will come in handy in a Federal penitentiary.

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:44, Blogger Max said...

"It's not "talk" at all, Glenn. And I have all the evidence that's necessary to put you away for years."

Then why haven't you done it billy?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

You have no idea what I've done, Glenn.

So tell us, Glenn, does Jesus still talk to you about 9/11--you "phucking" nut bar?

 
At 27 November, 2011 12:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

When do you plan to retract your slanderous assertions as concerns Naomi Wolf's alleged endorsement of the 9/11 "truth movement"?

After all, my comment at time stamp 26 November, 2011 19:52 blows a hole a mile-wide in your argument.

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:04, Blogger Max said...

you haven't done shit billy we both know that. unless you count cyber circlejerking with brian good...

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Judging from the condition of your keyboard, Glenn, you have no room to admonish anyone about "cyber circlejerking with brian good."

So how's cross-dressing treating you, Glenn?

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:13, Blogger Max said...

No FBI yet?

Maybe they thought you were mentally ill?

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So Glenn, I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself.

What have I written that makes me sound "like a phucking troofer"?

You wouldn't make 100% fact-free assertions without the benefit of evidence, would you, Glenn?

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:37, Blogger Max said...

Still waiting for the FBI billy - first things first - that is serious business.

What time did you say you called them?

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 27 November, 2011 13:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's not an answer, Glenn, it's an evasion.

I guess you would make 100% fact-free assertions without the benefit of evidence.

And where have we witnessed this brand of behavior? I mean, after all, doesn't every troofer who ever drew a breath rely on 100% fact-free assertions and slander as opposed to real evidence?

So I'll take your inability to provide evidence as tacit confirmation of my argument.

So Glenn, if you're not a troofer, why do you behave like a troofer?

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:55, Blogger Max said...

sorry billy - I don't argue with the mentally ill - it's not fair.

 
At 27 November, 2011 13:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn, I still don't see any evidence to support your "like a phucking troofer" assertion.

Why is that, Glenn?

So who's "mentally ill," Glenn?

So tell us, Glenn, does Jesus still talk to you about 9/11--you "phucking" nut bar?

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:02, Blogger Max said...

if you want to claim you are mentally healthy - great!

the rest of us know though...

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:03, Blogger J Rebori said...

"No, all the alleged endorsement by "the KKK, Neo-Nazis, and the COmmunist Party" "proves" is that the far right is doing everything they can to discredit OWS"

So the Communist party is part of a right wing conspiracy to discredit OWS?

Got it.

Welcome to the BG list. You are every bit as insane as he is.

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:07, Blogger J Rebori said...

"Finally, even rational people have become more receptive to certain conspiracy theories because, in the last eight years, we actually have seen some sophisticated conspiracies. The Bush administration conspired to lead Americans and others into an illegal war, using fabricated evidence to do so. Is it any wonder, then, that so many rational people are trying to make sense of a political reality that really has become unusually opaque? When even the 9/11 commissioners renounce their own conclusions (because they were based on evidence derived from torture), is it surprising that many want a second investigation

So she isn't a truther, she just thinks the Bush admin fabricated evidence, the the 9/11 commissioners have renounced their own findings and maybe we need a second investigation.

Yup, nothing like BG's positions at all.

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:09, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn, I still don't see any evidence to support your "like a phucking troofer" assertion.

Why is that, Glenn?

Let's see, I've just destroyed your alleged "credibility," and all you have are slander and 100% fact-free assertions.

And you really shouldn't misrepresent yourself as "the rest of us." Unless, of course, you want to count the voices in your head as "the rest of us."

But, then again, should anyone be surprised that a nut bag who "talks to Jesus" exhibits all the symptoms of multiple personality disorder?

Probably not.

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...So she isn't a truther, she just thinks the Bush admin fabricated evidence, the the 9/11 commissioners have renounced their own findings and maybe we need a second investigation."

JR, I challenge you to provide a direct quote from Ms. Wolf that proves that she endorses the 9/11 "truth movement."

And quote mining her writing and misrepresenting her position isn't evidence, JR.

And to think that I was under the mistaken impression that you're above such behavior.

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:16, Blogger Max said...

"Let's see, I've just destroyed your alleged "credibility," and all you have are slander and 100% fact-free assertions."

says the narcissistic piece of cow dung who has never been wrong...

yep - just as insane as brian good.

you can't even figure out I'm not some troofer named glenn maxey so I will give you credit as an expert on 100% fact-free assertions.

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:22, Blogger Max said...

hey billy - I'm heading out for a bit. I'll be back later to continue poking you with a stick if I feel like it.

In the meantime - stay sane!

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Poor Glenn, he just can't substantiate his assertions. All he can do is squeal like his buddy, Brian "goat fucker" Good.

Why is that, Glenn?

Could it be that you have no credibility?

Nah, couldn't be. Right, Pinocchio?

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

JR wrote, "...So she isn't a truther, she just thinks the Bush admin fabricated evidence, the the 9/11 commissioners have renounced their own findings and maybe we need a second investigation."

No JR, that's not what she wrote.

What part of "is it surprising that many want a second investigation" do you fail to understand?

Context, JR, context!

And I'm still waiting for your evidence that proves Ms. Wolf is a troofer.

So why can't you support your assertion's without taking Ms. Wolf's writing out of context?

 
At 27 November, 2011 14:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So JR, you're trying to tell us with a straight face that the Bush administration didn't lie to get us into the Iraq war?

According to The Center For Public Integrity and The Fund For Independence in Journalism, the Bush administration lied 935 times over a two year period.

Bush Lied 935 Times To Get Us Into Iraq.

So what were you saying, JR?

Now, slander Cenk Uygur and call him a "troofer," too. Okay JR?

 
At 27 November, 2011 15:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

False Pretenses -- Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith.

So what were you saying, JR?

 
At 27 November, 2011 16:15, Blogger Max said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61hXsf8Qu1M

LOL - clueless cunt!

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/trends/n_9437/

this bitch is even more opinionated than you billy

let me ask you a question there william - with you and your troofer buddy brian both being so far over to the left you can't help but rubbing on each other - right? you can tell us - we won't judge.

Where's the FBI you fucking blowhard?

 
At 27 November, 2011 16:18, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"I think MGF is to my right on the political spectrum, but I agree with his take on OWS."

More or less, I'm a JFK Democrat, and these days that makes me a conservative for half the score card.

OWS shares the same problems of the Truth Movement.

Both lack focus.

Anyone can join.

Neither know when to change tactics or quit.

In thecase of the attacks of 9/11there are serious unanswered questions relating to intelligence, coordination between the FBI & CIA, lax immigration enforcement, and the level of Saudi/Middle Eastern influence on the internal operations of the US.

All this has been obscured by the nut-jobs with their thermite, missiles, secret shoot-downs, stand-down, and pull it orders.

Same with OWS. Those responsible for the economic collapse need to be hung. Glass-Steagall should have been reinstalled six months after Obama had been sworn in.

Great, I'm down with that.

The problem is OWS has just become a party. A Caveman party: C.A.V.E. - Citizens Against Virtually Everything. So if you're Fox News you can find the exact kook you're looking for: hippies? Check. Anti-Semites? Check. Commies,Marxists, Lenonists, Maoists? Check, check,check,and check. You can also find people whove lost everything.

The secondary problem is the cost to local communities already financially strapped. Oakland is the best example. Oakland closed four public schools last year due to budget shortfall. Oakland is 110% liberal-run, and by 110% I mean they make Che' Guevara look like Dick Cheney. The OWS side-show in Oakland has cost a minumum of $2 million. Most of the OWS crowd are white college/college-aged kids and white aging hippies WHO DON"T LIVE IN OAKLAND.

So a bunch of middle-class white kids threw a party in Oakland which will cost the children of the 46% African-American population in education, and their parents will have fewer services availible next year.

Meanwhile Sacramento is out of control, Washington is out of control, and nobody is doing anything substantial about it

 
At 27 November, 2011 16:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn, how does Naomi Wolf's statement--and I quote--"I don't have a position on 9/11"--prove that she's a troofer?

You wouldn't misrepresent your sources, would you--you fucking liar?

Of course you'd misrepresent your sources. After all, that's SOP for a drollin' fucktard of your ilk.

And I still don't see any evidence to support your "like a phucking troofer" assertion.

Why is that, Glenn?

Now run away again with your tail between your legs while you utterly fail to substantiate your argument, ass.

FAIL.

 
At 27 November, 2011 17:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Come on SLCers! Side with Glenn, the Jew hating Nazi who talks to Jeeeeeezzzzzzus.

Show us your true colors.

 
At 27 November, 2011 18:32, Blogger Max said...

Where in the hell is the FBI billy???

Unlike you I have a life and can't sit around with my thumb up my ass waiting for them.

Wait...I bet you never called them because you are the queen of talking shit (brian is king - sorry).

How many post you figure you've made on here psychoboy? 10K, 20K - I would bet closer to 30,000 you mentally ill fuck.

Yep - just as insane as brian good...

 
At 27 November, 2011 18:41, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Still trying to change the subject and avoid my questions, Nazi boi?

So why did you misrepresent your sources--you batshit crazy Nazi?

And I still don't see any evidence to support your "like a phucking troofer" assertion.

Why is that, Glenn?

Yep, just as insane as Brian "goat fucker" Good--and every bit as dishonest and cowardly.

FAIL.

 
At 27 November, 2011 19:28, Blogger snug.bug said...

Was somebody complaining about thread hijacking, or was that just my imagination?

 
At 27 November, 2011 20:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

I didn't hijack the thread, Mr. Bogus "scientific reputation."

Would you care to substantiate your assertion, ass? (Heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with the goat fucker).

 
At 27 November, 2011 21:18, Blogger Max said...

Cowardly billy?

Your whole glenn maxey babbling is getting old douchebag.

Feel free to e-mail me or better yet come on out to NAS Ft Worth - VF-201. I'll cure you - no charge.

cdr_dtw_usnr@yahoo.com

(notice that adress has been around longer than this blog)

I see brian good showed up - let the cirle-jerkery begin!

 
At 27 November, 2011 21:34, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...I'll cure you - no charge."

I'm not the one who's suffering from tertiary syphilis. You, on the other hand...

And remember, physician heal thyself.

Besides you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag, Glenn.

And I'm pretty sure that the "cirle-jerkery [SIC]" started at time stamp 27 November, 2011 07:54.

Maybe you and the goat fucker can get together and write a book on the joys of lying, substituting logical fallacies for real debate, misrepresenting your sources, and presenting 100% fact-free arguments as "evidence"?

 
At 27 November, 2011 21:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

So goat fucker, did you see Pat's latest post (Sunday, 8:57 PM), titled Truthers Versus Occupiers?

Don't you love it when the occupier rips into the troofer provocateur and says, "...Don't be that guy. Don't be the guy who was coddled until he was six and breast fed until he was eight. Don't be that guy who put on his mom's high heeled shoes and sang show tunes while wearing her lipstick and dresses. Don't be that guy." Don't you love it, goat fucker?

Some things hit a little too close to home, eh goat fucker?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 
At 28 November, 2011 06:18, Blogger Avery said...

This is unrelated to the eternal troll war in these comments threads, but I just discovered that Japan has its own brand of Truthers, who believe that the March 11 earthquake was man-made. No shit.

Most of them are leftists and seem to believe it was caused by America. Here's their book:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4904801261/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_Et40ob0D2E29E

A video in English:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UJBt82fhcQ

If Pat wants help translating stuff, contact me through my profile.

 
At 28 November, 2011 06:28, Blogger Avery said...

Apparently the author of the book, Richard Koshimizu, is a noted anti-Semite

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3408801,00.html

 
At 28 November, 2011 09:17, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

Still no word on why Pat said Greenwald was 'suckered' into posting about it. Who did the 'suckering', Pat? What's the source for your careful research and choice of words?

Other than your ass?

 
At 28 November, 2011 09:54, Blogger John said...

Still no word on why Pat said Greenwald was 'suckered' into posting about it. Who did the 'suckering', Pat? What's the source for your careful research and choice of words?

So, how's that new investigation coming along?

 
At 28 November, 2011 10:47, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

So, how's that new investigation coming along?

John,

You know that question falls on deaf ears, or rather blind eyes.

 
At 28 November, 2011 16:01, Blogger Ian said...

It's kind of creepy to see Pat Cowardly, a scrawny 20-something virgin, fixated on a middle-aged man's ass....

 
At 28 November, 2011 17:24, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Was somebody complaining about thread hijacking, or was that just my imagination?"

Vee have some threads,just stay quiet and you'll be okay. Vee are returning to Blogspot, nobody move, everything will be okay. If you try to post back to the original topic you'll endanger the thread, and the blog. Just stay quiet.

Don't try and make any stupid moves.

 
At 28 November, 2011 18:41, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Vee have some threads,just stay quiet and you'll be okay.

Oh really? Can you explain why most of the thread hijackers are still alive?

 
At 29 November, 2011 08:31, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Oh really? Can you explain why most of the thread hijackers are still alive?"

Damnit, you've out foxed me with your iron-trap-Captain Kirk-like logic.

 
At 29 November, 2011 10:12, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

"you are certainly reminding me more and more of the limited value of the comments section of this blog."
- Pat Obesity

Don't kid yourself, Fat One: your posts, lies, and cowardice are of even less value. Have you ever "debunked" ANYTHING?

 
At 29 November, 2011 10:27, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Have you ever "debunked" ANYTHING?

If you enjoy debunker fails, you need to hang out here instead. It's a couple of idiots writing multi-thousand-word essays that somehow manage to say nothing. Effing hilarious.

 
At 29 November, 2011 10:41, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Don't kid yourself, Fat One: your posts, lies, and cowardice are of even less value. Have you ever "debunked" ANYTHING?

Don't you know that internet terrorism is a Federal offence that carries a maximum sentence of 7 yrs. in a Federal Pen?

What you're doing is internet terrorism.

 
At 29 November, 2011 11:16, Blogger Ian said...

A word of advice for Pat Cowardly: it's much easier to just go to a local club to pick up men than to constantly stalk Pat on this blog. Face facts: he's just not that into you.

 
At 29 November, 2011 11:51, Blogger John said...

You know that question falls on deaf ears, or rather blind eyes.

Yeah, I know. I just like reminding him of the fact that there will never be another investigation.

 
At 30 November, 2011 11:03, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

Yeah, I know. I just like reminding him of the fact that there will never be another investigation.

So true!

Even if they did get a new investigation, reguardless of the fact, they would still need to go through the Government to get a case.

 
At 30 November, 2011 12:30, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

"I worked across the street from it (recently laid off, unfortunately)"
-Lyin'

As if we needed any more proof that you're a loser, you jobless incompetent. Here's a hint: do a better job next time.

And Pat is still on his knees thanking god that you called him 'middle-aged'. Have you seen him lately? WELL past middle age, and not long for this world, given his habits. Better find a job if you don't want to be like him, Ian.

 
At 30 November, 2011 12:40, Blogger Ian said...

As if we needed any more proof that you're a loser, you jobless incompetent. Here's a hint: do a better job next time.

Oh, this is hilarious coming from a pathetic scrawny 20-something virgin who thinks his scraggly beard and black t-shirt make him badass.

Truthers are so cute when they're pissed off.

 
At 01 December, 2011 00:50, Blogger snug.bug said...

So you you think scrawny 20-somethings with scrawny beards are cute. Is that why you got fired, Ian? Were you hustling the mailroom clerks?

 
At 01 December, 2011 06:00, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

He was framed!!

Must have been an Ian-side (no) Job!

What a laid-off loser.

 
At 01 December, 2011 06:55, Blogger Ian said...

So you you think scrawny 20-somethings with scrawny beards are cute. Is that why you got fired, Ian? Were you hustling the mailroom clerks?

Alright, petgoat is back!!!! We missed you, petgoat.

He was framed!!

Must have been an Ian-side (no) Job!

What a laid-off loser.


And the scrawny twerp who has never been laid (or employed) is also here!

It's funny how annoyed you two geniuses are with me. I guess it does sting when I mock you two, huh?

 
At 01 December, 2011 07:19, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

Whatever gets you through the unemployment line, Ian-side No-Job.

At least now we know why you have so much time to post here. Shouldn't you be working on your resume? Is it up to 4 lines now? Was it your gullibility or your incompetence that got you fired?

 
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At 01 December, 2011 08:40, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Couple of observations about Troofers at work.

First: they seem to be of average competence in whatever line of work they do. But they make the mistake of believing that whatever they do has left them better equipped than most people to study 9/11. "As an engineer / architect / professor / mechanic / dishwasher, I knew the moment the towers fell that something was wrong..." How many times have we heard that?

Second: Many Troofers who are otherwise attention whores are rather secretive about what they do for a living. Some are always traveling with no visible means of support. Just saying.

I'm curious if anybody has attempted a serious study Troofer demographics. I suspect we'd find that the learning disabilities that lead one into 9/11 Truth tend to restrict one's entry into some fields, or at least limit one's ability to advance in them.

 
At 01 December, 2011 08:45, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

so what's your excuse for Ian the Laid-Off Loser?

 
At 01 December, 2011 08:46, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

"And the scrawny twerp who has never been laid...off, like me. *sniff*"
-Ian

Pat has a job for you: just show up in your maid's outfit and some knee pads. He's got his best Superman suit on. Fastest 5 bucks you'll ever make. Don't make his column fail, or he'll collapse on you, and you won't resist at all. Get to it, Ianside Jobby Job!

 
At 01 December, 2011 08:57, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

so what's your excuse for Ian the Laid-Off Loser?

Probably some of this. If you weren't a Truther, you could handle this kind of sophisticated research.

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:23, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

So you you think scrawny 20-somethings with scrawny beards are cute. Is that why you got fired, Ian? Were you hustling the mailroom clerks?

I though Brian said that he wasn't coming back to argue with people? Well, it goes to show that a liar will always lie through his teeth. Oh wait, Brian's got dentures.

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:24, Blogger WhyAskQuestions said...

thought*

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:25, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

1. The column failed over 8 floors.

2. Retards don't believe what I say, even though I retract it in shame. (Pat's torch song).

3. NORAD's 'lies' were 'unconscionable' and should have been 'referred for criminal indictment', but it's not perjury, and no one should be held accountable.

Why does Pat make Pat sound like such a fool?

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:27, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 01 December, 2011 10:29, Blogger snug.bug said...

RGT, so you seem to find it strange that an architect or engineer should feel he or she has the expertise to determine whether there was something strange about the behavior of the towers? Most structural engineers were surprised when the towers fell, says NOVA.

BTW, do you happen to know of any engineers or architects (free of conflict-of-interest-generating relationships to NIST) who will say publicly that as an architect or as an engineer they feel that NIST got it right?

For your study of truther demographics you might do well to start with the 1636 architects and engineers at AE911Truth.org. Last time I checked there were 50 structural engineers, 40 high-rise architects, 42 PhD enghineers (two of them with Stanford PhDs) and other such-like unqualified failures in life.

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:39, Blogger Ian said...

It's funny how Pat Cowardly is now stalking me because I lost a job. I guess all those comments about scrawny 20-something virgins in black shirts hit a bit too close to home for him.

I guess I could see why he thinks a temporary setback would devastate me. He's never had a job, so he doesn't understand how the job market works.

I'd explain it to him and how it's similar to a romantic break-up, but he's a dateless virgin so he wouldn't understand that either.

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:42, Blogger Ian said...

BTW, do you happen to know of any engineers or architects (free of conflict-of-interest-generating relationships to NIST) who will say publicly that as an architect or as an engineer they feel that NIST got it right?

Uncle Steve, Brian. We've been over this many, many times. If you weren't a hopeless liar who wears women's underwear and believes in invisible widows, you might be capable of learning things.

For your study of truther demographics you might do well to start with the 1636 architects and engineers at AE911Truth.org. Last time I checked there were 50 structural engineers, 40 high-rise architects, 42 PhD enghineers (two of them with Stanford PhDs) and other such-like unqualified failures in life.

We've been over this many times too. Nobody cares about your tiny crackpot group.

What we do care about is the fact that you're a liar and lunatic who wears women's underwear and was expelled from the truth movement for stalking Carol Brouillet.

 
At 01 December, 2011 10:45, Blogger Ian said...

http://www.truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7206

Brian is still obsessed with Carol Brouillet. She must not know that "truebeleaguer" is our insane sex stalking failed janitor.

Note the "Attagirl, Carol!" comments. The sick pervert in women's underwear won't give up.

 
At 01 December, 2011 11:00, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

'Temporary setback'? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You were 'setting back' your employer, and got the boot for your incompetence. Don't try to rationalize it in humiliated shame. It makes you look like Pat.

Now start practicing your 'want fries widdat?', you worthless laid-off bitch.

 
At 01 December, 2011 11:25, Blogger Ian said...

See what I mean? Our scrawny virgin in the black t-shirt doesn't even understand what the term "laid off" means because he's never held a job.

But it's fascinating to see how upset I make him by mocking his inability to get laid.

My advice is to drop the 9/11 truth nonsense. You'd be surprised how much women and employers are turned off by membership in an idiotic conspiracy cult.

 
At 01 December, 2011 12:12, Blogger snug.bug said...

It's amusing that Ian doesn't seem to recognize that his habit of inventing fictions about people he doesn't know completely discredits his opinions about everything else, including 9/11.

 
At 01 December, 2011 12:19, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Says the thoroughly discredited nutbag for 9/11 "truth."

So goat fucker, how's your research into "cardboard" semiconductors coming along--you fucking idiot?

 
At 01 December, 2011 12:57, Blogger Ian said...

It's amusing that Ian doesn't seem to recognize that his habit of inventing fictions about people he doesn't know completely discredits his opinions about everything else, including 9/11.

So what "fictions" have I invented, petgoat?

Also, I don't have "opinions" about 9/11 any more than Richard Dawkins has "opinions" about evolution. We both have facts about these subjects. Those, like you, who don't accept these facts are delusional.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:10, Blogger snug.bug said...

See what I mean?

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yeah, we see what you mean, Mr. "cardboard" semiconductors.

Now go bark at the moon.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:17, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

Pathetic to watch. Especially since GiddyBalls has to chime in when he's not getting enough attention, so he tries to out-stupid Pat and Ian. Not an easy task, yet he tries his best, repeating his tired cliches over and over, spamming the board with the same insults, etc.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:20, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

Ian wants me to prove I'm not the person in the picture that someone posted on the internet. Clearly he'll believe ANYTHING.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:22, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

"Now go bark at the moon."
-GeldedShill

Easy there, bitch-tits. You don't want to sprain a love-handle, like Pat.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:28, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Ian, cardboard could certainly be used to make cars, airplanes, electronics, and bridges. The reason it isn't used for that is because other materials serve those functions more economically." -- The goat fucker, 22 November, 2011 21:07.

Care to give us a lecture on "cardboard" semiconductor physics, ArseHooligan?

You "truther" cretins are too stupid for words.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Care to explain to us how modern semiconductors are designed and tested, ArseHooligan?

Of course you don't, because you're an idiot.

Modern semiconductors are designed on computers using electronic design automation software. And how are the semiconductors tested before they go into production? They're tested by the simulation software integrated into the electronic design automation suite.

Modern semiconductors consists of BILLIONS of transistors, which makes a modern semiconductor INFINITELY more complex than a skyscraper.

And you "truther" idiots want to claim that NIST couldn't possibly simulate the events that led up to the collapse of the World Trade Center towers and building 7?

You're so full-of-shit that your eyes are brown--you mad dog.

Now go play in the freeway--you fucking idiot.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:44, Blogger Ian said...

See what I mean?

No. Brian, in order for people to understand what you mean, you have to make sense. Dancing in front of the mirror like Buffalo Bill from "The Silence of the Lambs" while babbling about magic thermite elves and invisible engineers doesn't make sense to normal people.

Ian wants me to prove I'm not the person in the picture that someone posted on the internet. Clearly he'll believe ANYTHING.

Yup. Scraggly beard, black t-shirt, and a 9/11 truth sign. These things are an inadvertent vow of chastity.

 
At 01 December, 2011 14:46, Blogger Ian said...

Also, Brian, you still haven't listed one "fiction" I've invented. Not one.

You also haven't named a single truther who considers you part of the group. Not one.

 
At 01 December, 2011 15:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Ian wrote, "...Also, Brian, you still haven't listed one "fiction" I've invented. Not one."

Sure he can, Ian.

Of course, first he'll need to twist your word's beyond recognition, and then attack the caricature of your argument--which is a creation of his twisted "mind" and his twisted "mind" only.

Isn't constant reliance on straw man arguments as a substitute for honest debate wonderful?

 
At 01 December, 2011 15:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

I didn't say anything about cardboard semiconductors, UtterFail. You guys just make stuff up.

 
At 01 December, 2011 16:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

All modern electronics are based on semiconductors--you lying sack-of-shit.

Or were you talking about Heathkits for children--you double-talking liar?

Squirm and lie, goat fucker--squirm.

 
At 01 December, 2011 16:29, Blogger Ian said...

I didn't say anything about cardboard semiconductors, UtterFail. You guys just make stuff up.

"Ian, cardboard could certainly be used to make cars, airplanes, electronics, and bridges."

Brian, there are two things that are really amusing about you. One is that your lies are so laughably bad. Good liars don't make it obvious that they're lying.

Also, you seem to have some dim notion of what the rest of us here (re: normal people) might find loony, and thus you try to avoid making any definitive statements "I don't know what happened on 9/11, that's why we need a new investigation".

But every so often you let your guard down and come up with a real howler like "meatball on a fork" or "smoldering carpets" or "the imminent US invasion of Canada". Of course, once we're all laughing and mocking you, you realize the mistake of actually telling us what you think.

Then you go back to your pathetic lies and start denying it, which just makes us laugh and mock you more. It's pretty hilarious.

 
At 01 December, 2011 16:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Ian,

Next he'll try to tell us that your iPhone is full of discrete electronics (NPN transistors, 2N2222's and the like).

And then he'll try to tell us that cardboard is more expensive than a silicon substrate (substrates cut from extruded silicon ingots).

Any bets?

 
At 01 December, 2011 17:17, Blogger snug.bug said...

UtterFail, I didn't say anything about cardboard semi conductors. If you would bother to google "paper circuit" you might learn something. But no, you're too busy spewing your usual flatulent dataspam.

 
At 01 December, 2011 17:50, Blogger Ian said...

See what I mean?

 
At 01 December, 2011 17:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The idiot goat fucker dissembles, "...If you would bother to google [SIC] "paper circuit" you might learn something. But no, you're too busy spewing your usual flatulent dataspam [SIC]."

FALSE.

You arrogant, lying idiot.

"Paper circuits" are used to lay out the circuit patters (traces) on fiberglass PC boards.

And what the hell does that have to do with alleged "cardboard electronics"?

Once again, you FAIL--you scurrilous, insane liar.

Squirm and lie, goat fucker--squirm.

 
At 01 December, 2011 18:01, Blogger snug.bug said...

I see you didn't bother to google paper circuits. That's what makes you unemployable, UtterFail--you think people should be impressed that you know what a 2N2222 is.

 
At 01 December, 2011 18:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And who uses "paper circuits"?

Answer: Children and home electronics' hobbyists.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

See? The idiot was babbling about Heathkits for children.

What's next, goat fucker? Will you try to pass off a Heathkit as "high technology"?

Go soak your shit-filled head, goat fucker.

 
At 01 December, 2011 18:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...I see you didn't bother to google [SIC] paper circuits."

I don't need to "google" anything--you insane liar.

I was playing with paper circuits when I was boy.

Once again, you FAIL--you scurrilous, insane liar.

Squirm and lie, goat fucker--squirm.

 
At 01 December, 2011 18:25, Blogger snug.bug said...

If you were playing with paper circuits as a boy, then why did you ridicule the idea of cardboard electronics? ButtGale, you flutter in your own wind.

 
At 01 December, 2011 18:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

There's no "if," goat fucker.

And I've forgotten more about electronics than you'll ever know.

Paper circuits are used to create and "test" CHEAP, quick and dirty circuits. They have no application beyond the hobbyists' garage.

Real homemade circuits are made by transferring an image to a fiberglass, copper-clad circuit board. The circuit is photocopied to a special transfer sheet that's coated with photo-resist, and then heat and pressure are applied to transfer the image to the copper-clad PC board. The PC board is then etched by immersion in a chemical bath that removes all the exposed copper. The PC board is then drilled, which allows the electronic components to be mounted to the circuit board. After the components are mounted they're soldered. The circuit is now ready for test.

Child's play.

And since when do I need to be "employable," goat fucker? After all, I'm an employer.

Dumber than the day is long, aren't you, goat fucker?

You bathe in your own flatulence and lies.

Once again, you FAIL--you scurrilous, insane liar.

Squirm and lie, goat fucker--squirm.

 
At 01 December, 2011 20:00, Blogger snug.bug said...

ButtGale, you have no idea how ridiculous you and your pronouncements are.

 
At 01 December, 2011 21:34, Blogger Ian said...

Ah yes, the other thing that makes Brian so hilarious: digging his heels in on his idiotic claims.

So Brian, does Moore's Law apply to the science of cardboard semiconductors? Also, what else can we use cardboard for? After the nuclear disaster in Japan, one would think that it's high time we replaced Uranium with cardboard in nuclear power plants.

I'm glad you've finally decided to stop wasting your time and ours babbling about 9/11. This is a much more interesting discussion.

 
At 01 December, 2011 22:23, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, learn to read. I never said anything about cardboard semiconductors.

 
At 01 December, 2011 22:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The idiot whines, "...you have no idea how ridiculous you and your pronouncements are."

Squeal. Squeal. Squeal.

If you want "ridiculous," goat fucker, you'd do well to reference your ludicrous assertions. For example,

"...Ian, cardboard could certainly be used to make cars, airplanes, electronics, and bridges. The reason it [cardboard] isn't used for that is because other materials serve those functions more economically."

So were you sniffing glue, n-butyl acetate or your ass when you came up with that gem, shit-for-brains?

And all you have in response are 100% fact-free assertions (heavy emphasis on ass when dealing with the goat fucker).

Why is that, goat fucker?

 
At 01 December, 2011 23:03, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yo goat fucker!

While you're at it, I'm sure that you'll happily provide us with a few links to peer reviewed papers that are related to the subject of "cardboard electronics."

And your nutbag buddy's at Bentham Open don't count.

 
At 01 December, 2011 23:58, Blogger snug.bug said...

The popular press is replete with references to paper printed circuits and textile printed circuits.

Your ignorance is not my fault, ButtGale.

 
At 02 December, 2011 00:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

In other words, you have nothing to substantiate your idiotic claims.

Good work.

 
At 02 December, 2011 00:27, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Gosh, Mr. "scientific reputation," now you've changed your tune from "cardboard electronics" to "paper printed circuits and textile printed circuits"?

You wouldn't move the goal post, would you, goat fucker?

 
At 02 December, 2011 00:46, Blogger snug.bug said...

Paper printed circuits are cardboard electronics, idiot. You walk the plank and you're thrashing around in the water still screaming about semantics.

 
At 02 December, 2011 01:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Paper printed circuits are cardboard electronics, idiot."

No, that's not proof. And it has no commercial application. It's child's play.

You're an idiot.

 
At 02 December, 2011 01:15, Blogger snug.bug said...

I never claimed there were commercial applications. I specifically said that cost considerations made things like cardboard electronics and cardboard bridges possible but uneconomic, ButtGale.

 
At 02 December, 2011 01:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

No, that's not what you said.

"...Ian, cardboard could certainly be used to make cars, airplanes, electronics, and bridges. The reason it [cardboard] isn't used for that is because other materials serve those functions more economically."

You've never proven that cardboard electronics could be used, or has ever been used, as a commercial product. And you've certainly never proven that cardboard costs more than say, the production of a printed circuit board.
In addition, modern circuit boards are multi-layered (to support complex interconnect schemes, which reduce the footprint of the PC board, split ground planes, etc).

How do you plan to solve that problem with a primitive cardboard circuit?

You're babbling, and cardboard electronic "technology" has no commercial application--with the exception, perhaps, of some third-grade boy's garage project.

FAIL.

 
At 02 December, 2011 02:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

By the way, a printed circuit board is not defined as "electronics"--you babbling idiot.

A printed circuit board is a non-conductive mechanical support substrate designed to electrically connect electronic components via traces etched into copper sheets laminated to the aforementioned non-conductive mechanical support substrate.

Thus, a PC board is a mechanical substrate, not an electronic component.

If you can't use the proper terminology, goat fucker, why should anyone take you seriously?

You're a joke.

 
At 02 December, 2011 07:39, Blogger Ian said...

Paper printed circuits are cardboard electronics, idiot. You walk the plank and you're thrashing around in the water still screaming about semantics.

Brian, digging your heels in on this just makes you look like more of an ignorant lunatic than you already did before (if that's even possible). While I find it highly amusing, it's probably not the image you're looking to portray.

Then again, you'd probably not call us "girls" if you weren't trying to look like a hopeless lunatic.

I specifically said that cost considerations made things like cardboard electronics and cardboard bridges possible but uneconomic, ButtGale.

They're not possible, petgoat. You just think they are because you're an ignorant lunatic who believes in magic thermite elves.

Anyway, I'm glad we're talking about cardboard semiconductors instead of 9/11. It's more interesting.

 
At 02 December, 2011 08:34, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Last time I checked there were 50 structural engineers, 40 high-rise architects, 42 PhD enghineers (two of them with Stanford PhDs) and other such-like unqualified failures in life.

There are also a few hundred PhD's who support intelligent design. That hardly calls evolution into question.

 
At 02 December, 2011 09:15, Blogger snug.bug said...

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At 02 December, 2011 09:18, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, if you would bother to google "cardboard circuits" and "paper circuits" and "textile circuits" you would see you would see that neither you nor ButtGale know what you are talking about.

ButtGale is the kind of guy who will argue that tables don't have legs because legs have knees. It's no surprise that willful ignoramuses such as yourselves dispute the need for new investigations of 9/11.

RGT, how many of your PhDs have degrees in biology? The 42 I have cited have PhDs in engineering. There's a big difference between someone's scientific opinions that are based in their faith in the authority of a superstition-shrouded book, and someone else's scientific opinions based in their faith in the scientific method and the laws of physics.

Also, in the case of evolution v. intelligent design, we clearly have a scientific consensus on the side of evolution. But in the matter of 9/11, we clearly have no such consensus. Independent architects and engineers remain silent rather than support the official account. Only fools like y'all are willing to stake your scientific reputations on an obviously shoddy, dishonest, unscientific, and fraudulent analysis.

 
At 02 December, 2011 09:30, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, if you would bother to google "cardboard circuits" and "paper circuits" and "textile circuits" you would see you would see that neither you nor ButtGale know what you are talking about.

See what I mean?

Like I said, Brian babbling about cardboard electronics is a lot more fun than him babbling about magic spray-on thermite.

ButtGale is the kind of guy who will argue that tables don't have legs because legs have knees. It's no surprise that willful ignoramuses such as yourselves dispute the need for new investigations of 9/11.

Idiotic analogies is another staple of Brian's entertaining insanity. Also, "need" for new investigations? Who says we need them? You're a failed janitor who believes in modified attack baboons. Nobody cares what you think we "need".

 
At 02 December, 2011 09:39, Blogger Ian said...

RGT, how many of your PhDs have degrees in biology? The 42 I have cited have PhDs in engineering. There's a big difference between someone's scientific opinions that are based in their faith in the authority of a superstition-shrouded book, and someone else's scientific opinions based in their faith in the scientific method and the laws of physics.

Squeal squeal squeal!

Translation: my nutty religious beliefs are valid while other people's nutty religious beliefs aren't. Why? Because I say so.

Also, in the case of evolution v. intelligent design, we clearly have a scientific consensus on the side of evolution.

This is true. Of course, the crackpots who support intelligent design will claim otherwise. Claiming there is no consensus is typical of all pseudoscience advocates.

But in the matter of 9/11, we clearly have no such consensus.

See what I mean? If you don't like what the consensus says, just deny it. Evolution is just a theory. There is no evidence of anthropocentric global warming. The jury is still out on what happened on 9/11.

It's amazing how much you and right-wing talk radio have in common, Brian.

Independent architects and engineers remain silent rather than support the official account.

False.

Only fools like y'all are willing to stake your scientific reputations on an obviously shoddy, dishonest, unscientific, and fraudulent analysis.

Squeal squeal squeal!

Hey, a failed janitor who believes in cardboard semiconductors says a scientific consensus is "obviously shoddy, dishonest, unscientific, and fraudulent".

Why are we supposed to care what an ignorant liar and lunatic who wears women's underwear thinks? You're not even a truther anymore. You were expelled from the group. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

 
At 02 December, 2011 09:50, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

But in the matter of 9/11, we clearly have no such consensus. Independent architects and engineers remain silent rather than support the official account.

Lack of consensus on an issue of public interest is typically accompanied by widespread attention to that issue. How does one account for the negligible attention that 9/11 Truth is getting? Even O.J. Simpson is more controversial.

 
At 02 December, 2011 10:57, Blogger snug.bug said...

Ian, the widows say we need new investigations. 1,638 architects and engineers say we need new investigations. Amy Goodman, Jimmy Carter, and countless others have expressed support for the call for new investigations. You are playing dumb, and you lie and lie and lie.

Faith in the scientific method and the laws of physics is not a "nutty religious belief", much as you might wish it so. You have no evidence for a consensus on 9/11. We have evidence that people are afraid to express an opinion on the subject.

RGT, we have been over the reasons for negligible 9/11 attention again and again and again. You are pretending these questions haven't been answered. And your precept that lack of consensus is typically accompanied by widespread attention is unfounded.

 
At 02 December, 2011 11:34, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

RGT, we have been over the reasons for negligible 9/11 attention again and again and again. You are pretending these questions haven't been answered.

You've offered some opinions, but no empirical data.

 
At 02 December, 2011 12:41, Blogger snug.bug said...

I have offered the testimony of Dan Rather and Christine Amanpour about self-censorship in the news media. Watch "Outfoxed" and "Orwell Rolling in His Grave". Read "Into the Buzzsaw". Inform yourself.

 
At 02 December, 2011 12:46, Blogger Pat Cowardly said...

"Yo goat fucker!" GummyBalls

"Squeal squeal squeal!" -IanSide (Lost) Job

Eloquence in support of Fat Pat's demonstrable lies.

 
At 02 December, 2011 12:50, Blogger Ian said...

Ian, the widows say we need new investigations. 1,638 architects and engineers say we need new investigations. Amy Goodman, Jimmy Carter, and countless others have expressed support for the call for new investigations. You are playing dumb, and you lie and lie and lie.

So in other words, a bunch of nobodies are asking for something they'll never get. Thanks for proving my point.

Faith in the scientific method and the laws of physics is not a "nutty religious belief", much as you might wish it so.

The scientific method has nothing to do with "faith", Brian. The fact that you think it does might explain why you think thermite can be made to do miraculous things.

You have no evidence for a consensus on 9/11. We have evidence that people are afraid to express an opinion on the subject.

"We"? Brian, the various voices in your head aren't people. Also, these two statements are false.

I have offered the testimony of Dan Rather and Christine Amanpour about self-censorship in the news media. Watch "Outfoxed" and "Orwell Rolling in His Grave". Read "Into the Buzzsaw". Inform yourself.

None of this has anything to do with your deranged beliefs about 9/11. The testimony of Dan Rather does not make magic thermite elves or modified attack baboons or invisible elevator repairmen plausible.

 
At 02 December, 2011 12:51, Blogger Ian said...

Also, Brian, you still haven't named a single truther who considers you a member in good standing. Not one.

 
At 02 December, 2011 12:57, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

I have offered the testimony of Dan Rather and Christine Amanpour about self-censorship in the news media.

Secondhand opinions are no better than personal opinions.

A widespread "fear of speaking the truth" might excuse some of 9/11 Truth's failures, but there's no credible evidence of such a fear.

 
At 02 December, 2011 13:04, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Eloquence in support of Fat Pat's demonstrable lies.

Would you mind demonstrating one of Pat's lies? You never quite get around to doing that.

No rush, when you're done jerking off.

 
At 02 December, 2011 13:14, Blogger Ian said...

"Yo goat fucker!" GummyBalls

"Squeal squeal squeal!" -IanSide (Lost) Job

Eloquence in support of Fat Pat's demonstrable lies.


Squeal squeal squeal!

Would you mind demonstrating one of Pat's lies? You never quite get around to doing that.

C'mon, you know he just wants attention. Life is lonely for a 20-something virgin living in mom's basement.

 
At 02 December, 2011 13:30, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

C'mon, you know he just wants attention. Life is lonely for a 20-something virgin living in mom's basement.

Mom: Dammit Cosmos! Get up here and clean your room!

Cosmos: But MOM! I'm questioning 9/11!

 
At 02 December, 2011 15:38, Blogger snug.bug said...

You're not just degenerating to Ian's level, RGT, you're degenerating to WAQo's level with the bad drama.

If Cosmos is living in his mother's basement, why would he go "up" to clean his room? Does Cosmos's mom have a two-story basement?

 
At 02 December, 2011 16:38, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

Does Cosmos's mom have a two-story basement?

You know what snug's really asking here...

 
At 02 December, 2011 18:46, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

"Ian, the widows say we need new investigations. "

No they don't. A scumbag anti-American lawyer they hired did, but that was back in 2003/4.

"1,638 architects and engineers say we need new investigations."

So? What do the rest of them say?


"Amy Goodman, Jimmy Carter, and countless others have expressed support for the call for new investigations."

Some broad with a leftwing radio show, and the President whose incompetence lead to the rise of Islamic fundimentalism? Who the fuck cares? Countless others? I'm pretty sure you can count them as there aren't that many. Even the OWS kids want nothing to do with 9/11 troof-tards.

"You are playing dumb, and you lie and lie and lie."

There's a difference between playing dumb and being dumb. Ian knows the difference.

"We have evidence that people are afraid to express an opinion on the subject."

Translation: We means me and the guys at the Methadone clinic.

"I have offered the testimony of Dan Rather and Christine Amanpour about self-censorship in the news media."

A guy who was fired for lying, and a second-rate TV journalist known for picking sides in stories she'd covered. Why would anybody care about what they say?

9/11 troof has nothing. It is the new standard for nutjob failure, and everyone (else) knows this. Call us all the names you want to, site all the bullshit you can fabricate with quote-mining.

The truth, the real truth, is that 9/11 truth undermined the anti-war movement, making the war in Iraq longer, and keeping us in Afghanistan longer. 9/11 Truth is pro-war as defined by its actions.

I want an investigation, I want to know which government Agency is behind 9/11 Truth, and what other causes this agency has co-opted.

 
At 02 December, 2011 19:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...I want an investigation, I want to know which government Agency is behind 9/11 Truth, and what other causes this agency has co-opted."

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww! Someone's asking dangerous questions. :)

All those Republicans at the helm of the 9/11 "truth movement" might give you a clue. But, then again, you wouldn't want to come to any unwanted conclusions about the "wackadoodle" right. Right? :)

And then there's the issue of 9/11 "truth" and Federal Reserve conspiracy theory. Why do "truthers" want to abolish the FRS?

And I can guarantee you that FRS conspiracy theories are a right wing movement, not a left wing movement.

Ron Paul anyone? :)

Of course, we all know that Ron Paul (R-TX) is a "wackadoodle" left winger. Right?

And who wrote the first and most cited book on FRS conspiracy theory?

Answer: The late Eustace Mullins, a fellow at the Willis Carto institute.

Look into the Willis Carto Institute and Eustace Mullins and tell us what you find, MGF.

:)

 
At 02 December, 2011 19:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Continued...

And what was Watergate all about, MGF?

Wasn't it a "dirty tricks" campaign orchestrated by Richard Nixon and his henchmen?

And who was the target of their dirty tricks campaign?

So what would prevent the Republican Party from orchestrating another "dirty tricks" campaign against the anti-war movement?

Answer: Not a goddamned thing.

And then there's the anti-war movement of the 60s.

Who started the anti-war movement?

Answer: College professors and their very respectable students.

Who started the "hippy" movement?

And what did Abby Hoffman have to say about the Hippies?

"...There were all these activists, you know, Berkeley radicals, White Panthers. All trying to stop the war and change things for the better. Then we got flooded with all these 'flower children' who were into drugs and sex. Where the hell did the hippies come from?" -- Abbie Hoffman

Nothing to see here folks, move along...

:)

Question: Who was Jim Morrison's father?

Question: What's Stephen Stills family history. Where was he educated? Why is he widely known as an authoritarian personality? Why is his nickname "the sarge"?

Question: What is David Crosby's family background and history? Why was he convicted for weapons violations? How does this jibe with his reputation as "Mr. Love and Peace"?

Question: Who was Charles Manson? What did he think of the hippies? Why does he refrain from taking drugs? And why did he advocate drug abuse for his "family"?

Question: Who was Frank Zappa? What's his family background? What was his father's occupation? Why does he refrain from taking drugs? And why did he advocate drug abuse for his "family"?

Question: Who was Gram Parsons? What's his family background? What was his father's occupation?

Question: Who is Jackson Browne? What's his family background? What was his father's occupation?

You starting to get my drift? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Let us know what you find, MGF?

 
At 02 December, 2011 20:14, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Ian wrote, "...See what I mean? If you don't like what the consensus says, just deny it. Evolution is just a theory. There is no evidence of anthropocentric global warming. The jury is still out on what happened on 9/11...It's amazing how much you and right-wing talk radio have in common, Brian."

Indeed.

You guys are soooooo close to figuring out the truth.

By all means, keep digging. And don't be surprised at what you discover.

:)

 
At 02 December, 2011 22:13, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

Bill, seriously, the Laurel Canyon kids? Mind Control?

My family has a similar military background as most of those people, so by the same loose standards I must be a CIA troll too.

9/11 Truth has undermined the anti-war movement, there is zero doubt, but it is more the case of rampant stupidity, the internet, kids raised on anti-psychitics, and burned out hippie assholes (Brian)not knowing when to stop.

 
At 02 December, 2011 23:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Sorry, I'm a coincidence theorist. :)

(And I don't recall saying anything about "mind control.")

How many "coincidences" that point directly to military intel and the Republican Party are necessary before we learn our lesson? After all, it's not as though government institutions have the authority to "bust heads" or "disappear" their political opponents--to say nothing of that sticky Constitution and Bill of Rights issue. So wouldn't it make sense to simply discredit the opposition?

Nice and clean, works like a charm.

And don't the police routinely use agent provocateurs against protesters to incite violence--which, by the way, results in discrediting the protesters? (Notice that the authorities almost always try to discredit social movements or protesters. Why is that, MGF?).

So what precisely is so far fetched about all of this, MGF?

Besides, it's not a conspiracy, it's policy. Unwritten policy, but policy nonetheless.

I smell a rat--a big, nasty, underhanded right wing rat.

Cui bono?

 
At 03 December, 2011 04:29, Blogger Richard Gage's Testicles said...

You starting to get my drift?

Woodstock was an inside job?

 

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