Gage-Thomas Debate, Part II

Enjoyed Dave Thomas' solo section quite a bit more than I did Box Boy's. I found it especially interesting that Thomas was able to use David Chandler's measurements to prove that there was some slight deceleration at each floor.

The real revelation though was when Niels Harrit got on the show. Lord knows, Richard Gage isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but compared to Harrit he's a genius. This guy is seriously a physics--correction, chemistry--professor? He says that he doesn't need any complicated models or experiments to prove that the WTC was a controlled demolition, just the evidence of his eyes? Niels, the evidence of our eyes tells us that the sun revolves around the Earth.

I haven't yet gotten to the point where Gage starts talking about the Lusitania getting us into World War I yet. The host does try to draw out Gage about who "they" are, but as usual, Box Boy is just hinting darkly at the conspiracy theory angle and sticking to his "evidence".

Gage-Thomas Debate Analysis

I was unable to listen to it live, but I'm listening to an MP3 now thanks to JREF Forum member Sam.I.Am. I've heard the first half hour (all Box Boy) so far and here's the bingo card as I have it:



As predicted, Gage filled in the bulk of the card quickly. You could argue for "Never Before In History", although Gage's phrasing (about WTC-7) was "Third worst structural failure in history," so I'm leaving it open for now. And he skirts close to the missing pancakes, but just talks about pancaking collapse, so we'll give that one a pass so far as well.

The host had to press him on what he thought happened; as usual Gage would rather talk about "evidence" without quite connecting the dots himself. However, near the end of the segment, Box Boy does indicate that two companies that should be investigated are the security company and Ace Elevator, so he is being forced to elaborate on his conspiracy theory.

I'll post further thoughts as I listen to the rest of the show.

Dave Thomas to Debate Box Boy Gage and Harrit on Coast to Coast

It's apparently going to be a four-hour extravaganza tomorrow (Saturday night) on the show best known for alien abductions and Bigfoot. Dave has already done an admirable job of debunking Gage in an impromptu debate and I am confident that he will shred Box Boy in this one, for which he's been prepping awhile. Check your local listings for the time and station. If you want to play a little drinking game, here's a bingo card:

Adventurous souls with strong livers could do a drink after completing either a row or column; I'd be very surprised if half that card isn't filled in in the first ten minutes.

Gage's New Consultant

Box Boy Richard Gage and Waterboy Kevin Ryan are teaming up to appear on Coast-to-Coast, the show that's usually about alien abductions and lizards ruling us all. They are to appear against some debunkers supposedly from JREF, although of course it's not really a JREF event, just forum members, including Dave Thomas, who has done some excellent debunking.

Gage even picked up a consultant, the brilliant and aptly named Winston Wu.

Hi all,
Richard Gage of AE911Truth.org and a team of scientists are scheduled to debate a team of JREF debunkers on the Coast to Coast program in the next few months. Gage has put me on the mailing list after reading my suggestions to him in how to debate the JREF crowd and which points to emphasize, because he would like me to be a consultant to his team. I am honored of course.

The debate is scheduled for July 31st. Gage is truly fortunate to have a razor-sharp mind like Wu's on his team:

It's too bad ciscop isn't here. He would love the group that Dave Thomas is president of, New Mexicans for Science and Reason (http://www.nmsr.org), since ciscop is mexican too. Why is it "new mexicans" though? Is there referring to Mexico or the state of New Mexico?

No, they're New Mexicans because they just became Mexicans. ;)