Tuesday, May 23, 2006

The Second Level Conspiracy

If you've seen Loose Change, you are aware of what some people consider the conspiracy of 9-11; the passenger planes were diverted to another location, the WTC was hit by cargo planes, the Pentagon was hit by a missile, the two towers (and WTC 7) were brought down by controlled demolition, and the cellphone calls were faked.

What you may not be aware of is that there is a second level of the conspiracy, even more clever and diabolical than the first. Among the people involved in this second level of the conspiracy are Dylan Avery, Korey Rowe, and Jason Bermas.

Yes, believe it or not, Loose Change is actually part of the conspiracy! By putting out this horrifically flawed movie, and by getting it publicized by various outlets, Avery and company are sabotaging the real 9-11 "Truth" movement.

Here's an image by Eric Hufschmid that explains it all:

Here's a very rational analysis of how this all works. He even cites Screw Loose Change!


At 23 May, 2006 10:48, Blogger Jujigatami said...


Rational analysis? Funny.

After perusing that site I have brain cramps worse than from chugging a slurpee.

At 23 May, 2006 11:07, Blogger Unknown said...

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At 23 May, 2006 11:08, Blogger Unknown said...


I commend your efforts in exploring the varieties of "9/11 Truth".

Even with the treatment that might be called "A field guide to Nut Jobs", getting into details and texture of what the streams of voices are really does serve the interest of getting to the truth.

I would hope you could contintue to cover Authors such as Ruppert, Tarpley, Sander Hicks, and David Ray Griffin.

If you are wanting more material to make fun of, perhaps these aren't the best. If you want to serve the cause of discussing sane material from rational voices, you could do no better than Tarpley.

At 23 May, 2006 13:54, Blogger Pat said...

BG, ran into Tarpley with regard to something else (I'll have to look it up--I don't remember what it was now).

At 23 May, 2006 17:27, Blogger nes718 said...

"Are The Criminals Frightened"

At 23 May, 2006 17:33, Blogger Alex said...

You know what the Conspiracy Theory crowd reminds me of? Penis Enlargement websites. They keep filling my goddamn inbox with spam, they're all over the internet, and EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM claims to have "the only product that really works".

At 23 May, 2006 17:42, Blogger shawn said...

nesnyc, that was the first conspiracy thing I ever saw in terms of 9/11.

Even then I knew whoever made it was an idiot. The dust jets are debris being forced out by the floors from above. Also, he starts his countdown after the tower already begins falling, and each "second" in his countdown is longer than a second. Also, he repeats the misread seismic evidence.

At 23 May, 2006 19:33, Blogger nes718 said...

Even then I knew whoever made it was an idiot.

Seems if people don't have your perspective they are automatically "idiots." That sums up a lot actually, but not in your favor.

At 23 May, 2006 19:45, Blogger Alex said...

"Seems if people don't have your perspective they are automatically "idiots." That sums up a lot actually, but not in your favor."

No, idiots are those who continualy use logical falacies, misquote experts, invent "experts" of their own, and skip over facts which don't support their theories. In other words, you, n-sync, mr. pilots-need-an-ILS-to-hit-a-building, and those like you.

At 23 May, 2006 19:53, Blogger shawn said...

Seems if people don't have your perspective they are automatically "idiots." That sums up a lot actually, but not in your favor.

Excellent strawman (that's a logical fallacy, you love using those).

I call you and the others idiots not because you don't agree with me, but because you ignore every aspect of logic and mountains of evidence.

At 24 May, 2006 07:15, Blogger LT said...

seems to me, many idiots discount expert testimony in favor of someone who really doesn't qualify as an authority on the subject matter, or in favor of their own opinion of what "could have happened". hmm...Now, most of us rational, logical people, back up our claims or assertions by research and fact by authorities or experts in a particular field. How many experts do Avery and Company(present company included)use in their movie (and arguments in this blog)?

At 15 September, 2006 12:00, Blogger dilbert_g said...

Thanks for the props. Sorry if my site is not up to par, or too
"busy". I'm an amateur with web design.

On Sept 11, I googled Afghanistan and the ONLY site actually from there was RAWA, women committed to exposing and overthrowing the Taliban. RAWA women complained that Western kissy-face with psycho terrorists was literally killing them. USA actually overthrew a non-fundamentalist secular regime, because it was allied with USSR, a few miles north.

This and other things I learned about US-sponsored terrorism in Latin America, meant only a few steps for me to go from USA "stupidly" supporting the Taliban and Al-Qaeda back then (and throughout the 90's and beyond), to the USG actually doing Sept 11.

Later, I was getting weirded out by all the mudthrowing between various conspiracy sites, and the Birchite Alex Jones with his hard-right guests (including mainstream people like former WSJ economist Jude Wanniski), coupled with "Christian voodoo" about the Illuminati, Huffshmid's Holocaust Revision, etc. Alex Jones info was void of any understanding of CIA's role in backing capitalism by force, so I started trying to do that on my own.

At that moment of dismay, I accidentally found Breakfornews. I was skeptical about the "CIA fakes" story, but after a while I started to see it pan out.

Later I found out that Jones' fave anti-commie John Birch Society had a subsidiary Western Goals which ran a private COINTELPRO operation in the 50's and 60's, spying on Americans for the FBI/CIA. At the same time, Robert Welch was tied to the enemy of JBS, the Council on Foreign Relations. (BIG FRIGGIN' CORP MONEY PEOPLE, Rockefeller, et al.)

I'll try to make my site less noisy, but if you ck out the False-Flag page, there's a history to this. 9-11 is REPEAT!!!

ALSO, someone who DISAGREES with me on who did Sept 11 is Dave Emory. Check out his spitfirelist.com, For the Record, and recent Economics 911 talk, based in part on a recent tame Newsweek article and years of studying history of fascism.

The Bush admin obviously represents "free market economics" (which some would call fascism, the Corporate State). "Americans for Tax Reform" founder Grover Norquist and his buddy Karl Rove are two free market people, as are most of the Bush corporate supporters.

Norquist set up the Islamic Institute which is tied to Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, etc.

Well, it turns out, Operation Green Quest, run by former Intell pro John Loftus (who has gotten props from Fox), discovered financial data that corporate America and the GOP likes to invest in the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. because Islamic Fundamentalism ALSO supports "free market economics".

This is what the Bush admin was bashing the NYT for revealing, Republican investment links to Islamic terrorism.

This is like when FDR was fighting Hitler and Mussolini and fascist Japan, but fascist Wall Street was supporting Hitler and Mussolini (and maybe fascist Japan too).

Saddam Hussein was a dictator, who KILLED LIBERALS, so I don't know why neo-conservatives are screaming about "mass graves". Fellas, it's only Liberals in them mass graves, no problem, right? The prob was when Saddam turned Nationalist, and started funding social programs in Iraq.

So now Iraq has gone from Secular Nationalist to Islamic Fundamantalist (Shia) under US control, Afghanistan is run by Islamic Fundamantalists, and the Muslim Brotherhood party is strengthened in Egypt and elsewhere.

I'm still not sure of those yokels in Florida flew into the towers or not, but I DO KNOW they were linked to US military and a CIA cutout company (Huffman) which got props from Jeb, I DO KNOW about one Al-Qaeda terrorist who was a Green Beret at the same time, MANY listed terrorists were in CIA payroll in the not too distant past, including Chechnya and the Balkans, etc. etc. and most importantly, Al-Qaeda was created by Zbignew Brzezinski for National Security.

Or I guess we should say "Securities", not "Security".

That's conspiratorial, but NOT theoretical at all.

Just for fun see video on my site entitled "God is On Your Side". The speaker is Brzezinski and "your" is the Mujahideen. (and don't give me any crap that it was the "good" Al-Qaeda back then before they got named)



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