Thursday, September 09, 2010

Why The Troof Still Doesn't Matter

Gotta laugh at this article over at Troof News, the latest attempt by the Troofers to put together a news site for "veterans". Not in terms of actual war veterans, but in terms of "Truth veterans" (i.e., those who've been lying for years).

John Albanese leads with the missing $2.3 trillion:
On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced that an estimated $2.3 Trillion in Pentagon spending was missing – and unaccounted for. One day later, on 9/11, the story also disappeared, along with any semblances of governmental accountability and journalistic integrity.

In the wake of 9/11, America was a traumatized nation where asking difficult questions was often perceived as unpatriotic and equated with disloyalty.

Forget the fact that $2.3 Trillion equals the GDP of Italy. Forget that the military only spent an estimated $311 billion in the year 2000 – and that approximately 7.5 times that amount had disappeared. We were at war the very next day on 9/11 – and that was all that mattered.

Now of course, a normal person might wonder what would have happened if, say, Donald Rumsfeld had been smart enough oh, not to mention the missing $2.3 trillion. And like all Troofer idiots, Albanese appears to think it was really missing. but what Rumsfeld really meant was that the Pentagon's accounting systems were out of date, and so they couldn't account for $2.3 trillion.

And of course, Albanese ignores the fact that Rumsfeld was far from the first to talk about the $2.3 trillion. Indeed, it had been reported in the news before he even took over as Defense Secretary. For example, in March 2000, when the Democrats were still in charge:

By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.

The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.

And in February 2001:
There's still huge accounting problems in the Pentagon. They don't even know how much money they have or are spending. The inspector general of the Pentagon said there are 2.3 trillion dollars in items that they can't quite account for.

So the idea that Rummy put out the word on the $2.3 trillion on September 10, 2001 because he knew the events of the following day would bury it is a typical Troofer fantasy. It's classic pre hoc reasoning by Albanese.


At 09 September, 2010 00:24, Blogger snug.bug said...

Saved by the bell!

At 09 September, 2010 01:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Tell us about it, Tinkerbell.

At 09 September, 2010 02:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yeah, the Pentagon is a font of "efficiency." After all, doesn't the Pentagon refer to common 16 cent bolts, which anyone can purchase at the local hardware store, as "hexaform rotatable surface compression units"? And doesn't the Pentagon pay $2000 for each "hexaform rotatable surface compression unit", and charge the feckless taxpayer accordingly?

And Americans wonder, moreover, why the national debt is out of control.

Gosh, with all the Orwellian doublespeak that permeates the Pentagon, how could that venerable institution possibly have accounting problems?


At 09 September, 2010 04:30, Blogger Triterope said...

This is what angers me so much about the Twoofers. They discredit real issues by conflating them with all their fake ones. Being unable to account for trillions of dollars is an outrage. But now that it's just another plank of the 9-11 conspiracy alongside exploding paint chips and super voice morphing technology, it's easy to dismiss.

At 09 September, 2010 07:01, Blogger Garry said...

Re: the troofers and their 9th Anniversary celebrations (sorry, commemorations), take a look at the list of speakers:

George Galloway, the ex-British MP, will be there. He's the one who used to go to Iraq to blow off Saddam, and also had some cosy chats with his serial rapist son, Uday:

At 09 September, 2010 08:57, Blogger Chas said...

Talking about veteran troofers, I've found one who has folded up his tent and gone home. There used to be a site called run by a guy who fell for the 'FBI is hiding 84 videos' schtick. He got involved in FOIA requests, got some of the videos and loaded them onto his site.

There were no changes to the site for a long time and then it disappeared. But he's back with a new site which contains the following troofer's lament:

in the end, my frustration with the 911 truth movement remains. while the opportunity once existed to solve this crime, the movement was far more concerned about its own weird culture, and growing for the sake of growing. the in-fighting is/was endless. the profiteering is offensive. and the gullibility of those within the movement continues to be astounding.

Apart from the 'opportunity once existed to solve this crime' bit, that's a fair summary of the state of trooferdom. He ends with:

if you're new the the movement and a bit confused about what to believe, read every word here: stick to the sites recommended there. stay away from no-plane theories and groups and sites that suggest anything other than a 757 impacted the pentagon.


At 09 September, 2010 13:40, Blogger Joseph Nobles said...

Well, the AE911Truth explosive press conference is over. It was pretty much a sausage party, except for the one Judy Wood advocate who crashed the party. One person agreed with the official story, five were unsure, and everyone else in the room thought it was a controlled demolition. The guy who agreed left after two hours. Nothing new announced. I didn't even hear a plug for Building What? Maybe I was typing.

At 09 September, 2010 16:08, Blogger texasjack said...

I listened to part of the "news conference" and there making a big move by insisting Eric Holder indict Shyam Sunder and John Gross from NIST. What a hoot.

At 09 September, 2010 19:12, Blogger ConsDemo said...

How many people showed up for the AE911 twoof "press conference"? Did any real media types lower themselves to make an appearance?

At 09 September, 2010 19:14, Blogger ConsDemo said...

On another plus side, I'm seeing fewer twoofers stink up mainstream media message boards just prior to the 9/11 anniversary. I'd like to think it means da twoof is dying out but I suspect the real reason is people are more interested in discussing the ground zero mosque and Koran burning.

At 09 September, 2010 20:04, Blogger texasjack said...

No media showed up, just a bunch of fruitcake questions that even Gage had to cut short. But Dick Gregory was there,the former comedian, who got an ovation when intoduced. I'm not sure if they know all his wacky beliefs like "Ghetto Intelligence" telling him nobody ever landed on the moon: “Those images of dust rising and falling again when that astronaut steps on the planet could not be accurate because there’s no gravity on the moon, and how could there be all those pictures with shadows when the moon is completely dark?

At 10 September, 2010 09:32, Blogger Triterope said...

I suspect the real reason is people are more interested in discussing the ground zero mosque and Koran burning.

Which ought to increase, not decrease, the amount of Truther activity.

If Muslims didn't perpetrate 9-11, then there is no reason to burn Korans or be offended about the presence of this community center.

These are real-world news events that would bring out mainstream Americans who have questions about the nature of the attacks... if there were any.

At 10 September, 2010 11:16, Blogger M Gregory Ferris said...

I should point out that the issue of the missing money would have been tailor-made for the GOP to crucify the Clinton Administration.
I don't think that a cover-up would have been at the top of the Bush admin's list.

At 10 September, 2010 21:17, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Which ought to increase, not decrease, the amount of Truther activity.

Not necessarily. There are a lot of "casual" twoofers, in fact I'd say they outnumber the true believers. The casual twoofers don't talk about controlled demolitions or missiles hitting the Pentagon. Rather they just use "doubts" about 9/11 to bitch about US foreign policy. Its these folks who get drowned out or talk about other things when real (albeit overblown) issues like mosque locations and Koran burnings come up.

At 11 September, 2010 03:39, Blogger stilicho said...

There are a lot of "casual" twoofers, in fact I'd say they outnumber the true believers.

There always will be this element in any conspiracy theory 'movement'. When you look back at the JFK assassination and the Pearl Harbour CT's you see exactly the same thing.

There are a lot more people who think there was something funny going on than those who truly believe that Nixon had JFK shot so LBJ could take office (huh?) or that the Jews painted a bunch of their own Zeros in IJN colours (double huh?).

It might be that 9/11 falls on a weekend this year but in my hometown there were no silly banners hung over the usual freeway overpasses.

And the $2.3 trillion 'missing' money was untraceable assets due to myriad unconnected accounting systems. Probably on ACCPAC for DOS or Clipper or something.

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

At 11 September, 2010 17:16, Blogger Triterope said...

Not necessarily. There are a lot of "casual" twoofers. Rather they just use "doubts" about 9/11 to bitch about US foreign policy.

Really? Because I've never seen one. Not even on the Internet. Even the Bush Derangement Syndrome crowd knew better than to latch onto something as stupid as 9-11 Truth.


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