Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Cosmos Been Lyin'?

Color me not surprised at this news. Cosmos, a regular at Troof Action, and a founding editor of the new 9-11 Troof News, has claimed for years that an uncle of his, Mickey Rothenberg, was one of the heroes who died on Flight 93. Here he is making the claim in a video:

As pointed out by Adam Syed, the original bios at Troof News included this relationship:
Cosmos is an artist and musician whose uncle was murdered in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

But the current version is changed:
Cosmos is a survivor of Mark Rothenberg, a family friend who was murdered on September 11, 2001.

Cosmos explains:
Yes, Mark Rothenberg was known to me as "Uncle Mickey" when I was growing up. I don't speak about Mickey much, but usually when I do I'm careful to point out that he was a close family friend, not a blood relative - specifically for the purpose of heading off the kind of smear that Barrett is engaging in here. That's why I've never referred to myself as a "9/11 family member", despite the fact that Mickey was, for all intents and purposes, family.

That is BS. Cosmos has often mentioned his uncle Mickey (as in the video) and never (at least to my knowledge) carefully pointed out that he was a close family friend, not a blood relative. Syed has several examples of Cosmos talking about his "uncle" being murdered.

Note that I don't endorse the further idiocy of Syed, who speculates that perhaps Cosmos is a family member who supports the "official story", and who is working to undermine the Troof Movement. IMHO, Cosmos just used "Uncle" Mickey as a shield. How dare anybody question him; his uncle was murdered in the attacks!

Update: The kooks at Truth Action are now claiming that Kevin Barrett is paid to spread these scurrilous attacks:
Paid disinfo agent Kevin Barrett immediately scoops up anything and everything that can divide and discredit a legitimate movement. What else is there to say? Short of finding his paycheck stubs from the DIA or the State Department.

Anything to avoid admitting that he's just another nut.

26 Comments:

At 31 August, 2010 09:40, Blogger Billman said...

Farbiet for me to ever defend a troofer, but this sounds to me like perhaps this was a family misconception he just recently found out wasn't true, and now he's admitting it.

Although, him saying "I'm careful to point out I wasn't related" is obviously bullshit unless he's saying that NOW he's careful to point it out. He obviously wasn't in the past, as Pat points out.

Whatever. It still doesn't mean 9/11 was an inside job. These people make me sick when they use the 9/11 Family Members as emotional propaganda.

 
At 31 August, 2010 16:09, Blogger Triterope said...

These people make me sick when they use the 9/11 Family Members as emotional propaganda.

Which is exactly what got Cosmos in trouble. If he hadn't tried to leverage his relationship with "Uncle Mickey" into points for the 9-11 Truth Movement, he wouldn't have to explain away his relationship now. Just desserts if you ask me.

Though I do find it odd that Truthers are so concerned about the sanctity and truthfulness of 9-11 family members' relationships with the victims. These are the same people who gave us "Bernard Brown sent his son to die", "Mom this is Mark Bingham", "the victims were paid off and living the high life in Austria", "the phone calls were faked", and volumes of other hateful things about the 9/11 victims and their family members.

Goes to show these people don't give a shit about 9-11 victims or their families, beyond their value in advancing the 9-11 Truth agenda. Look how quickly they turned on one in their own group.

 
At 31 August, 2010 16:18, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Angela Kyte Died on 9/11 at the World Trade Center

If I were as much a liar as Cosmos I could claim my sister Angela was a victim of the terrorist attack. She is not related as far as I know.

 
At 06 September, 2010 03:49, Blogger Garry said...

Remember the wanker who posted here as 'A Real Veteran'? His hope was that he could use his (concocted) military record as a cheap debating tactic - 'How dare you question me on 9/11? I fought for my country, unlike you cowardly chicken-hawks' etc etc.

Cosmos has basically done the same thing. Furthermore, as Triterope rightly remarks, the troofers' supposed concern for those that lost relatives on 9/11 does not prevent them from coming out with some disgusting smears against the dead.

 
At 06 September, 2010 11:56, Blogger anonymous said...

your all a bunch of sad ass lying failtards lol

http://911truthnews.com/a-response-to-kevin-barretts-attacks/

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6731

 
At 06 September, 2010 11:59, Blogger anonymous said...

and did pat seriously take the word of adam "ima holocaust denier" syed?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 
At 06 September, 2010 12:14, Blogger anonymous said...

your a bunch of lying CENSORING failtards too

http://i56.tinypic.com/35n0l6t.jpg

taking a shot in case that goes too
ASSWIPES

 
At 06 September, 2010 12:16, Blogger anonymous said...

here it is again

http://911truthnews.com/a-response-to-kevin-barretts-attacks/

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6731

go ahead delete it again
lol

 
At 06 September, 2010 12:26, Blogger anonymous said...

omg

http://i51.tinypic.com/2pziejc.jpg
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

U FAIL

 
At 06 September, 2010 12:31, Blogger anonymous said...

http://911truthnews.com/a-response-to-kevin-barretts-attacks/

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6731

 
At 06 September, 2010 16:35, Blogger Triterope said...

Whatever.

 
At 07 September, 2010 09:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour Sydney Oz 2009 - Cosmos www.truthaction.org Clip 1.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet The Truthers .

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered? FUCK. YOU. This message is inspired by some dumb little know nothing Glenn Beck fan in Kentucky but if you're reading this and you're also an idiot - FUCK YOU TOO!"

Source: YouTube: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 09:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 07 September, 2010 09:53, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour Sydney Oz 2009 - Cosmos www.truthaction.org Clip 1.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet The Truthers .

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered? FUCK. YOU. This message is inspired by some dumb little know nothing Glenn Beck fan in Kentucky but if you're reading this and you're also an idiot - FUCK YOU TOO!"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 09:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour Sydney Oz 2009 - Cosmos www.truthaction.org Clip 1.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet The Truthers.

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered? FUCK. YOU. This message is inspired by some dumb little know nothing Glenn Beck fan in Kentucky but if you're reading this and you're also an idiot - FUCK YOU TOO!"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered? FUCK. YOU. This message is inspired by some dumb little know nothing Glenn Beck fan in Kentucky but if you're reading this and you're also an idiot - FUCK YOU TOO!"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:21, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV5KBwfmv04

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7uGdaSM7o

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: http://tinyurl.com/23pynz6

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:38, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour Sydney Oz 2009 - Cosmos www.truthaction.org Clip 1.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet The Truthers .

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered? FUCK. YOU. This message is inspired by some dumb little know nothing Glenn Beck fan in Kentucky but if you're reading this and you're also an idiot - FUCK YOU TOO!"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

 
At 07 September, 2010 10:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos (aka, "Anonymous")--you lying bastard.

What's this at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into the video?

"...It matters to me. I lost my uncle Mickey on 9/11. It matters to other people who lost their relatives; their friends; their loved ones."

Source: YouTube: Hard Evidence Tour 2009, Sydney OZ--Cosmos TruthAction.org clip One.

I listened to the entire video, and I can't find a single statement that clarifies "Uncle Mickey"'s real relationship to your family.

Continued...

 
At 07 September, 2010 11:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Continued...

What's this at 49 seconds into the video, Cosmos?

"...Three days later I found out that my Uncle Mickey was on Flight 93. And that kind of put my head in a different space about it."

Source: YouTube: Cosmos of TruthAction.org On Meet the "Truthers".

Continued...

 
At 07 September, 2010 11:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Continued...

Finally, what's this, Cosmos?

"...8 years since my uncle was MURDERED and I get some dumb ass piece of shit bitch insulting me because I dare to question the circumstances under which he was murdered?"

Source: TruthAction: A MESSAGE TO IDIOTS.

So much for the "Uncle Mickey" deception--you lying fucktard.

Oh, and if you have the time between all the lies you tell, shave that unsightly cat off your chin--that's right, stand a few feet closer to your razor. Let me guess, you boil that cat in water every week to make soup.

 
At 07 September, 2010 13:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Cosmos--you weenie--what's this, liar?

"...Team, Editors--Cosmos...Cosmos is an artist and musician whose uncle was murdered in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001."

Source: Google Web Cache: Team--Editors, 9/11 Truth News.

So, tell us Cosmos, where were you careful to "point out that [Uncle Mickey] was a close family friend, not a blood relative"?

FACT: You've lied about your alleged relative, "Uncle Mickey" from day one. In fact, you didn't change your story until your mortal enemies who comprise the anti-Semitic wing of the "truth" movement--Kevin Barrett, Barrie Zwicker, Webster Tarpley, Ken O'Keefe, Sander Hicks and Adam "sockpuppet" Syed--exposed the "Uncle Mickey" deception to the light of day.

FACT: Brian Good, "Cosmos," Jon Gold, "Arabesque," "Col. Sparks," Michael Woolsey, "LeftWright," and Victoria Ashley are members of the 911flogger LIHOP faction of 9/11 "truth."

FACT: Kevin Barrett, Barrie Zwicker, Webster Tarpley, Ken O'Keefe, Sander Hicks and Adam "sockpuppet" Syed are members of the anti-Semitic wing of the 9/11 "truth" movement.

The aforementioned factions--the LIHOP wing and the anti-Semitic wing of the 9/11 "truth" movement"--are mortal enemies who constantly sabotage, libel and attack one another on a daily basis. The struggle between the two factions represents a battle for control of the 9/11 "truth" movement.

The Moral of the Story? You can learn a lot from a troofer cat fight.

 

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