Monday, May 15, 2006

More On the American Free Press

I posted earlier on the American Free Press, the white supremacist anti-Semitic newspaper which is the source for many of the claims in Loose Change. A reader, with the nom-de-blog of extremist pointed out one of the characters behind the newspaper, Willis Carto, which sheds a lot of light on their viewpoint. From his Wikipedia entry:

Carto's career has been marked by controversy, and even among his contemporaries he is a polarizing figure. The Anti-Defamation League, as well as other critics, believe that Willis Carto, more than anybody else, was responsible for keeping organized anti-Semitism alive as a movement in the United States during the latter half of the 20th century and into the 21st century. These critics have noted that Carto has founded some organizations, such as Liberty Lobby, with the intent of appearing to be respectable conservative, populist, or anti-Communist organizations, while founding other organizations that were racialist or National Socialist in nature.

It continues:

Carto was also the founder of a publishing company called Noontide Press, which published a number of books on white racialism, including Yockey's Imperium and David Hoggan's The Myth of the Six Million, one of the first books to deny the Holocaust. Noontide Press later became closely associated with the Institute for Historical Review (IHR), and fell out of Carto's hands at the same time as the IHR did. The IHR was founded by Willis Carto in 1979, with the intent of promoting the proposition that the Nazi Holocaust never happened - a view known as Holocaust denial. After losing control of Noontide Press and the IHR in a hostile takeover by former associates, Carto started another publication, "The Barnes Review", which is also dedicated to denying that the Holocaust happened. On March 26, 2003, the nation of Switzerland issued an arrest warrant for Carto for embezzling millions from the IHR and its parent company.


One has to wonder whether the 3 college-aged kids behind the making of this movie are actually aware of the background of the sources they use, or if they just naively figure, "Hey, it is on the Internet, it must be true!"

7 Comments:

At 15 May, 2006 18:02, Blogger MeToo said...

Hi guys!

Found your blog this morning after someone pushed me to watch Loose Change over the weekend. I can't believe anyone would buy into such a load of crap.

I was shaking with laughter at the very notion and I started to write a comment to you ... but I digressed into a satirical account of the conspirators planning the attack according to the scenario set up by Loose Change and, although it was great fun, it ran a smidge long. Like two pages.

I didn't want to be hogging into your space going out onto that branch so I posted it to it's own blog.

I never blogged anything before and since your blog inspired it, I just wanted to give you the hat tip. Thanks.

Here's an excerpt:

"Sir, I have another great idea."

"Let’s hear it."

“Let’s get a third plane and crash it into the Pentagon!”

“Wow. The Pentagon. I like the way your murderous mind works Smith. Somebody put three planes on the requisition list.”

“Well, instead of an actual plane, I was thinking we could just use a missile and tell the American public that it was a plane.”

“Hmm... so we don’t hijack a third airplane?

“Oh no, we still hijack a third plane, but we fire a missile into the Pentagon.”

“Wouldn’t it be easier to just crash an actual plane?”

“Well, yes, it would be easier. But I was talking with Stevens here, from the Office of Making Things Exponentially More Complicated Than Necessary, and he thinks that not only should we use a missile instead of the plane that we’re going to have to hijack anyway, we should offload all the passengers and crew somewhere else, kill them, and then return the plane to the airline.”

“So we kill the passengers and crew somewhere else and then transport all those dead bodies to the Pentagon?”

“No we’ll just dump the bodies somewhere else, maybe a mass grave in Iraq - dress them all up to look like dead Kurds or something.”

“How will we explain the fact that there are no passengers’ bodies at the crash site? And no plane?”

“We’ll say they were incinerated in the fire.”

“Hmmm... that makes no sense whatsoever. I think I like it.”

“Excuse me?”

“What is it this time Johnson?”

“Why return the plane to the airline?”

“Shut up Johnson”

“Yes sir.”

 
At 15 May, 2006 18:53, Blogger roger_sq said...

June 14th, 9:30 AM -- U.S. District Court
3rd & Constitution Ave (Constitution Ave. Entrance)
For over two years Attorney General John Ashcroft has been relentlessly engaged in covering up my reports and investigations into my allegations. He has asserted the rarely invoked State Secret Privilege in my court proceedings, and has used it to quash a subpoena request for my deposition from attorneys representing 9/11 family members on information regarding 9/11.

Ashcroft is not protecting 'national security' or 'state secrets' of the United States. On the contrary, he is endangering our national security by covering up facts and information related to criminal and terrorist activities against this country and it's citizens. Ashcroft is fully aware that making this information public will bring about the question of accountability, will expose serious criminal activities, and his complicity in covering up.

On Monday, June 14, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Judge Reggie Walton is expected to issue his ruling on the state secret privilege assertion by AG Ashcroft, which is intended to gag me. The hearing will be held in US District Court for the District of Columbia, located at 3rd and Constitution Avenue, NW, Washington, DC, Judge Walton's courtroom. Please attend if you can, since by your presence both the court and Ashcroft will understand that this attempt to cover up will not go unnoticed.

I will be there, in front of the Court's Constitution Avenue entrance, at 9:30 AM, and will be joined by Daniel Ellsberg to make press statements and to meet with all of you.

DC Court with map
http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/location.html

Hope to see you there,
Sibel D. Edmonds

 
At 15 May, 2006 19:12, Blogger James B. said...

That is pretty good. These theories are so ridiculous that they lend themselves easily to satire. You are pointing out what I call my rule#5 of conspiracy theories.

Occam's Corollary: The complexity and difficulty of a conspiracy theory is only proof of the depth and deviousness of the conspiracy.

 
At 15 May, 2006 19:27, Blogger Pat said...

Metoo, good stuff! I throw you a link in a couple hours, want to give Damian a little time at the top of the blog, but that is definitely worthy of linkage.

 
At 15 May, 2006 20:18, Blogger James B. said...

And don't forget to add, "And then we blow up World Trade Center 7, just because we like seeing things go boom."

 
At 16 May, 2006 08:02, Blogger MeToo said...

Thanks for the kind words.

I've been emailing friends and family and putting out links to your blog where ever appropriate.

It should be required reading for anyone who sees that ridiculous "joke-umentary."

Keep up the good work!

 
At 17 May, 2006 09:03, Blogger extremist said...

Hey, please be clear -- my silly screename is a joke. Willis Carto a racist, holocaust denying kook, and I've been pointing that out to otherwise reasonable people who have been taken-in by this nonsense.

See this post for example.

metoo: Your parody made me laugh so hard, I cried. It was by far the funniest thing I have read in months. What's amazing is that it isn't an exaggeration. I think everything in it is an actual claim in Loose Change.

Hope you don't mind that I excerpted and re-posted your piece, with a link to you of course. Great job!

 

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