Sunday, July 02, 2006

A Change of Pace

Here's another one of those tribute films that would be mocked as false patriotism and myth-making if Dylan Avery had his way.

39 Comments:

At 02 July, 2006 19:01, Blogger shawn said...

The real heroes

 
At 02 July, 2006 19:47, Blogger Pat said...

Beautiful, shawn!

 
At 02 July, 2006 20:17, Blogger JoanBasil said...

The people who did that are monsters and they're laughing at us. (IOW, they're not dead.)

 
At 02 July, 2006 21:14, Blogger BG said...

Thanks alot. Now I have to clean the vomit off my keyboard.

 
At 02 July, 2006 21:48, Blogger nesNYC said...

Thanks alot. Now I have to clean the vomit off my keyboard.

Ah ha ha ha...

I thought it was cool. Would go good as the last scene in Loose Change final edition :D

 
At 02 July, 2006 21:56, Blogger BoggleHead said...

How come everybody stopped talking in the SLC forum?

 
At 02 July, 2006 23:53, Blogger jackhanyes said...

Over welling emtions from video:

LETS GO NUKE THOSE AIR-RABS!!!! America, FUCK YEAH!!


PNAC dream video right there. Can't bomb iraq for oil with a new peral harbor.

Fuckers.

 
At 03 July, 2006 00:14, Blogger jackhanyes said...

The real heroes

Hey look it's hightower from Police Academy! And is that a lawyer in the suit? What the hell is a lawyer doing being called a hero? That guy in the upper left corner looks like an axe murderer, and the nurse on the bottom left looks like she got a bad case of PMS. Why is Superman looking like he's saying "who the fuck put this in my way?" Prehaps construction worker Hugo had a bit to much of the green stuff. Doctor Li looks like she is bored hearing about someone ailments. Captain America looks like his pissed at air traffic control. The overall picture look like something you'll in a Jehovah Witness handout, except they believe they all these people are serving the beast and will be distroyed by God. Wackos.

Personaly, it make me think: "America, FUCK YEAH!"

/etc/init.d/insensitivity stop

 
At 03 July, 2006 00:18, Blogger default.xbe said...

And is that a lawyer in the suit? What the hell is a lawyer doing being called a hero?

well considering an office buildign was attacked it wouldnt surprise me if there were several peopel wearing suits who risked their lives to help someone else


although i think the messege of the picture is one of those "average american" things, where average folks are heroes to someone by making a difference in their lives

as for superman, shoulda left the dog at home, krypto pisses me off

 
At 03 July, 2006 04:44, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, I mean, wow, I thought the fires were almost out, and anyway those were not hot fires, like you now, I almost forgot about those planes, and like, I mean, those buildings were like Really big, boy, I bet they were biger than my high school in Oneonta - like, how did that stuff get all the way to Broadway, I thought they fell in their own footprint, but hey, I mean a footprint can mean a lot if you wear snowshoes, yeah, I mean that stuff was like ejected out way far, and I mean the speed of like gravity was exceeded that day.

Wait'll I put my man Jason on this he knows stuff, I'm just a kid like way over my head.

 
At 03 July, 2006 07:57, Blogger shawn said...

LETS GO NUKE THOSE AIR-RABS!!!! America, FUCK YEAH!!

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I thought that morning in my history class.

Thanks alot. Now I have to clean the vomit off my keyboard.

Now you know how I feel every time you morons disgrace the memories of those who died that day.

The people who did that are monsters and they're laughing at us. (IOW, they're not dead.)

Oh I know, Osama isn't dead (but I doubt he laughed about it).

Can't bomb iraq for oil with a new peral harbor.

If the war was about oil it wouldn't have cost 35 bucks to fill my car today. That sneaky PNAC document...the one that outlines what to do without a "new Pearl Harbor".



Fucking idiots, the lot of you.

 
At 03 July, 2006 08:09, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

LETS GO NUKE THOSE AIR-RABS!!!!

Like, hey man, Are the Afghanistanies Air-Rabs, I mean we went to Afganyland first, I mean did we go to the wromg place?

 
At 03 July, 2006 09:41, Blogger MarkyX said...

Everytime I hear for the War for Oil in Iraq, I shake my head in pity for ignorant americans.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

 
At 03 July, 2006 10:55, Blogger The Inexorable said...

Yes, you're right. Patriotism obviously has nothing to do with protecting and respecting the lives of your country people, or the constitution, or investigating the government, and keeping the government in check...it's all about not questioning the government, and childishly insulting anyone who does.
Heil hitler!

 
At 03 July, 2006 11:16, Blogger BG said...

nesNYC,

Do you accept the hijacking and crash stories of 9/11 as true?

 
At 03 July, 2006 13:41, Blogger nesNYC said...

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I thought that morning in my history class.

Exactly and is why so many AmeriKKKans are so easily conned into fighting Israel's wars.

 
At 03 July, 2006 13:48, Blogger nesNYC said...

nesNYC,

Do you accept the hijacking and crash stories of 9/11 as true?


Absolutely not. The whole thing is real fishy; passenger counts too low and most definitely, if the planes were indeed hijacked, they weren't used in the actual attacks. Too much chance for mistakes.

There was definitely help in guiding these planes to their targets. You can't have amateur pilots on their first times flying large commercial aircraft and hit their targets dead on without some kind of navigation assistance or autopilot of some kind.

Also, if they really wanted to not get caught and hit the buildings in NYC, why not take the flights coming right to the city and in the last 20 minutes or so of the flight, take them over then? Why did they have to fly out of Boston and then make U turns and go off course hundreds of miles increasing their chances of being intercepted?

The "hijacking" scenario does not add up, PERIOD.

 
At 03 July, 2006 13:51, Blogger undense said...

Exactly and is why so many AmeriKKKans are so easily conned into fighting Israel's wars.

The KKK doesn't like Jews, nesnyc. You would fit right in, if you aren't ALREADY a member. Or is the KKK not extreme enough on the Joo-hate scale for your tastes?

 
At 03 July, 2006 14:19, Blogger default.xbe said...

The whole thing is real fishy; passenger counts too low

have you ever been on an early morning flight? theres never many people on them, expecially high trafie routes (boston to LA for example) since theres dozens of flights goign that way all day

and most definitely, if the planes were indeed hijacked, they weren't used in the actual attacks. Too much chance for mistakes.

reverse engineered theory, you start with the conclusion that the govt did it, so they must have better resources than apssenger planes

of course if arab hijackers did it they wouldnt have anything better

There was definitely help in guiding these planes to their targets. You can't have amateur pilots on their first times flying large commercial aircraft and hit their targets dead on without some kind of navigation assistance or autopilot of some kind.

and you are basing this claim on?

Also, if they really wanted to not get caught and hit the buildings in NYC, why not take the flights coming right to the city and in the last 20 minutes or so of the flight, take them over then? Why did they have to fly out of Boston and then make U turns and go off course hundreds of miles increasing their chances of being intercepted?

i believe the idea of using the cross-country flights near the origin was to maximize the amount of fuel in the planes

The "hijacking" scenario does not add up, PERIOD.

maybe your just really bad at math

 
At 03 July, 2006 14:51, Blogger apathoid said...

Absolutely not. The whole thing is real fishy; passenger counts too low and most definitely, if the planes were indeed hijacked, they weren't used in the actual attacks. Too much chance for mistakes.

It was early Tuesday morning. As somewhat of an expert on passenger loads(because I fly non-rev and have to work around paying pax) I can tell you that Tuesdays and Saturdays (particularly early AM, and late PM) would be the very best time to hijack a plane(or fly non-rev) because historically the loads are 30-40% lower than normal.

I can print you a screen capture from my travel program page showing lighter loads on Tuesdays than the rest of the week if youd like..

I also find your notion that planes were hijacked, but not used extremely...(cant find a word...to describe......) retarded!!

Do you have any evidence(not specualtion) of this theory.

(Watch, no evidence will follow!)

 
At 03 July, 2006 14:59, Blogger Richard said...

Yes, you're right. Patriotism obviously has nothing to do with protecting and respecting the lives of your country people, or the constitution, or investigating the government, and keeping the government in check...it's all about not questioning the government, and childishly insulting anyone who does.
Heil hitler!


What the fuck do you know about patriotism?!?! I know for a fact that there are at least two people, myself included, that have put our lives on the line to allow people like you the freedom to say what you want. I actually care about my government enough and the people under it that I was willing to die to protect it. Don't call me a fanboi who never questions the government. I question the government whenever it needs questioning. I've voted in every election since I was able to vote. I voted against Bush twice. I write my congressman. So fuck you for even assuming you know me or know my level of patriotism. I'm all for questioning the government but this is one issue that doesn't need any questioning.

As for everyone else's comments. That picture is from the comic "Hero's." That pic was on the cover and it had Superman saying "Wow." The point being that on that day a bunch of regular people performed a lot of heroic acts. I figured that even truthers would admit that some average person who, not giving two shits about the motives that day, would risk their lives to save each other. It doesn't matter if it was a terrorist attack or not when it comes down to people helping each other. But what comes from the truthers? They make fun of it! Way to show your true colors assholes...

/Rant Over

 
At 03 July, 2006 15:00, Blogger Richard said...

*two people on this forum that is.

 
At 03 July, 2006 17:16, Blogger shawn said...

it's all about not questioning the government, and childishly insulting anyone who does.
Heil hitler!


S-s-s-trawman for the win.

I have no problem questioning the government (as a libertarian under a neoconservative administration, I do it quite often), it's when the questioning has a basis to it.

It was the ones who think like you that allowed Hitler to rise to power (but excellent breaking of Goodwin's law). It had nothing to do with not questioning the government, it had to do with seeing an enemy where there was none (and don't turn this around to say al-Qaeda is a phantom enemy, it isn't).

Exactly and is why so many AmeriKKKans are so easily conned into fighting Israel's wars.

You don't understand sarcasm do you? Funny that "KKK" folks would fight for Jews, eh?

they weren't used in the actual attacks. Too much chance for mistakes.

Actually you have that back asswards. Your take on the attacks has an astronomical chance of failure, what with using totally different planes/missles/etc and landing the planes elsewhere (where at least someone would see them) and kill or pay off the passengers.

I voted against Bush twice.

I never voted for the man, either. So much for the Hitler analogy.

 
At 03 July, 2006 17:35, Blogger shawn said...

Man, nesnyc you must be going nuts with Israel invading to get their soldier back. After those barbarians killed a kid and kidnapped a soldier after Israel gave them 'their' land back.

 
At 04 July, 2006 08:27, Blogger The Inexorable said...

What the fuck do you know about patriotism?!?! I know for a fact that there are at least two people, myself included, that have put our lives on the line to allow people like you the freedom to say what you want.If that includes fighting in Iraq, then you haven't given the american people any liberation. "A war overseas only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny." Saddam Hussein was not a threat to the US or a thread to the freedom of the US. The biggest threat to freedom comes from our own government. I actually care about my government enough and the people under it that I was willing to die to protect it. Your government is the one that is trying to kill you by sending you away to war, at least a very high criminal level of our governments...why protect the bastards?Don't call me a fanboi who never questions the government. I was actually responding to the comment made by Pat who posted the video, so calm down. I question the government whenever it needs questioning. I've voted in every election since I was able to vote. I voted against Bush twice. I write my congressman. So fuck you for even assuming you know me or know my level of patriotism. I point out again, I wasn't actually talking to you. I'm all for questioning the government but this is one issue that doesn't need any questioning. So you're all for questioning the government, but not these questions? That's basically like saying you have the freedom of all speech, but don't say that. This line of questioning has a huge basis to it, and it begun with the families of the victims of 9/11, and I thank them for their true courage and patriotism.

 
At 04 July, 2006 11:00, Blogger Richard said...

This line of questioning has a huge basis to it, and it begun with the families of the victims of 9/11, and I thank them for their true courage and patriotism.

OK, name one family member that supports CT. I'm sure they have important questions but I doubt any of them are about how MIHOP. Better skip the victims families of Flight 93, they might not want to hear what you guys have to say about the phone calls. I might add that I served in the Army well before Iraq. By joining the Army I was willing to except the fact that I could go to war at any point and possibly die. I was willing to die to protect freedom from any future enemy. Are you willing to die for a cause that great? It's ok if you don't, that's your right and I wouldn't look down on you if you didn't want to die. However I think that puts you in a position to watch what you say about patriotism. I agree that Iraq wasn't a direct threat to the US but I care enough for the people under his regime that I wanted to do something about it. You see I actually give a damn about people and went out of my way and made lots of sacrifices to help them. That's what true courage and patriotism is. I agree 100% with the "offical" story so I don't feel the need to question it. As for other things, yes, but for this no.
But I quess I'm just an evil baby killer that doesn't give two shits about anything or anyone but himself. I really look up to the "red pill" taking truthers that want to fight hollywood style to bring down the evil government. Way to go guys! Real American heros!!!

 
At 04 July, 2006 11:17, Blogger BG said...

"I also find your notion that planes were hijacked, but not used extremely...(cant find a word...to describe......) retarded!!"

I don't mean to make a somewhat disjointed and contentious discussion simply continue with he said / she said.

I asked NesNYC about his ideas, just to make sure he and I were in the same ballpark. We are.

I say the following to clarify what I think is a broad consensus among many of us who doubt the govt. story, brining the skepticism under the largest umbrella that remains true to what the evidence shows:

1) Absolutely the so-called hijackers were in the US. The sightings and much of the visibility of the hijackers pre-911 was part of the operation. The seeds of fooling the public were being sown by their visibility pre-911. The reason that FBI and over reports of the hijacker s and plots didn't get acted upon (except in Moussaui's case) was because the whole scheme depending on the "hijackers" acting their part on 9/11.

2) The evidence shows that seats were booked under the hijackers names in many, possibly all cases. Persons who were in fact the identities of the hijackers, or fakes most likely did "check in". There are eye-witness accounts of persons who saw or talked with particular hijackers on the a.m. of 9/11 (as well as other times). For example, there are witnesses to Atta in Portland on the a.m. of 9/11, and I think their is an ATM pic of Atta. that was made early on 9/11 while he was getting cash. I think the above details may be the "truth" in the limited sense that they happened and the accounts are accurate. So, to be clear, I don't think any credible source is saying that their were no persons masquerading as hijackers. However the question is open about whether the alleged hijackers "departed" as passengers in the alleged planes.

What can be concluded from the evidence is:

1) The idea that box cutters were used as the primary weapon, and that these individuals commandeered the flights etc. etc., this is where the Kimchee gets deep. Of course in the case of Flight 11, there is a report that a hand gun was used to shot Daniel Lewin.

There are many reason to doubt the hijacking stories, and the crashes as described by the govt. story, and a thorough discussion would have to be provide via links. I fully realise the if the hijackings didn't happen, the audio of the alleged hijackings or the flight attendants or other witnesses to the hijacking would have to be faked. I acknownledge that, and I believe the evidence of fakery is there.

 
At 04 July, 2006 11:28, Blogger BG said...

I also acknowledge many grammatical mistakes in my previous comment.

 
At 04 July, 2006 12:08, Blogger The Inexorable said...

OK, name one family member that supports CT. Maybe this lot?http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/FSCstmtQs.html
And there are many others. Believe me, they are asking questions, questions which you deem unnecesary. I'm sure they have important questions but I doubt any of them are about how MIHOP. Better skip the victims families of Flight 93, they might not want to hear what you guys have to say about the phone calls. I might add that I served in the Army well before Iraq. By joining the Army I was willing to except the fact that I could go to war at any point and possibly die. I was willing to die to protect freedom from any future enemy. Are you willing to die for a cause that great? I'm actually only 13 years old...but I don't think that bombing the shit out of some foreign country really protects freedom unless you are talking world war 2 style. It's ok if you don't, that's your right and I wouldn't look down on you if you didn't want to die. However I think that puts you in a position to watch what you say about patriotism. I agree that Iraq wasn't a direct threat to the US but I care enough for the people under his regime that I wanted to do something about it. You see I actually give a damn about people and went out of my way and made lots of sacrifices to help them. Your government decieved you. They wanted the oil, it had nothing to to with the iraqi people. Do you think they feel liberated now? The place is plunged into civil war...the country is in a worse state than they were even with Saddam. That's what true courage and patriotism is. I agree 100% with the "offical" story so I don't feel the need to question it. 100%?? That is not very healthy. You should always let your mind consider things. Even I think there is a possibility that it was islamic terrorists working alone, however a small possibility. As for other things, yes, but for this no.
But I quess I'm just an evil baby killer
Don't say that...you're not a baby killer, I don't even know you. You know what? It's great to protect your country in the name of freedom and make yourself a sacrifice, I greatly respect that, but the people making these wars happen don't care about that. They want you to die, for oil, money and power. that doesn't give two shits about anything or anyone but himself.You already seem to give a shit about people's freedom. I really look up to the "red pill" taking truthers that want to fight hollywood style to bring down the evil government. Way to go guys! Real American heros!!! Thanks.

 
At 04 July, 2006 13:06, Blogger Richard said...

None of the questions in the link provided mention anything of MIHOP or any other kind of vast conspiracy. Those are good questions but many if not all have been answered in some form or another. People need to understand the concept of delegation of authority. I'm not going into any detail but if one wanted to find answers to those questions they are out there. I admit that the government fucked up but that was a brutal day. I don't think its fair to pass judgment on people for what happened that day. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. When I say I have no questions thats about the main points of 9/11. There are interesting questions out there but I really don't see how those questions could ultimately reveal a huge government plot.
As for American aid. Why does everyone assume that Standard Operating Procedures for aid start with bombing people? You can't just say that. I don't remember any bombing campaigns when we went to help tsunami victims. There are countless times of examples of US aid without violence. On the flip side sometimes violence has to happen to insure the greater good. Violence is wrong but we can't wish it away. From the way you percieve things I can see why you would have your opinions but if you do a bit of research there are plenty of examples of the good this country has done.
In reality America is damned if we do, damned if we don't. When we give aid it's not enough in the eyes of other countries, when we don't give aid were "turning our backs on the world." WTF, what do you want us to do?!?!?
AS for Iraq, yeah its fucked up. Yeah I'm pissed about the inteligence fuck ups that put us there. However having been there and seeing the faces of the people I'm glad were overthere. Iraq is WAY WAY better off now. Unless you prefer a government that tortures civilians and gives little to know help to the sick. I really wish the media both left and right would get off our backs and let us get our damn job done. Yeah, there may be conflict but that's not going to stop us from building schools and repairing their infastructure.

 
At 04 July, 2006 14:17, Blogger apathoid said...

The idea that box cutters were used as the primary weapon, and that these individuals commandeered the flights etc. etc., this is where the Kimchee gets deep.

Again. Proof that ignorance is one of the primary weapons of CTism.

bg, do think its possible that someone can use a boxcutter to kill another? I do. They also said they had bombs(you guys always forget this IMPORTANT detail)

These guys that comandeerd the flights WERE pilots, they were familiar with the controls and instrument layout of the 757/767(there was a popular - and realistic - 767 addon for MSFS that the hijackers likley used to hone their plans) and they had pilots licenses. They were not asked to shoot a Cat 3 instrument approach at night in a driving rainstorm with an engine out. All they did was steer the airplanes into the targets(extremely easy in the case of the Towers, more difficult for the Pentagon). Thats all they had to do. Nothing fancy.
Most CT'ers are extremely ignorant of aviation and find what the hijackers did to be difficult or impossible. It wasnt, it was only too easy. If it was impossible the 20,000 airline pilots and 100,000 commercial pilots in the US would be raising questions, but they arent. They KNOW how easy it was...think about that BG

 
At 04 July, 2006 14:56, Blogger Richard said...

wow, that's the worst misspelling of "no" I've ever made :)

 
At 04 July, 2006 15:13, Blogger shawn said...

Even I think there is a possibility that it was islamic terrorists working alone, however a small possibility. As

It's not a question of possibility, but probability. It's far more probable 19 hijackers committed this act (what with all the evidence) than the government doing it (the only solid "proof" being governments do bad stuff sometimes!).

 
At 04 July, 2006 15:34, Blogger BG said...

apathoid,

Your debate is so uninformed and untrue that I refuse to address. You bring up nothing new. The points that you do bring up on cut no ice with me previously, so there is no reason for them to address them again with this incredible worthless waste of time.

I have two reasons that I'm commenting here:

1) To reach those who are capable of understanding the truth.

2) To deal with James and and Pat. In particulare James has said that no one have touched the posts here in terms of logic fallacies or other serious challenge.

James could not be more incorrect, and I'm working to provide him the issues not with the expectation he will get a clue, but surely if he is an honest broker of the truth, he really shouldn't continue to make such outrageous claims.

And, finally, I'm amazed that, rather than do thorough research, whether on their own, or by going to links that are provided, many people think it's important to ask for individuals to post their own original opinions here. This seems fubar to me. I don't claim to be a witness, or a leading researcher. Why on earth wouldn't it be in everyone's interest in debating the evidence and opinions of others, who we grant that status of leading exponents of various views, rather than pretending that we have a panel of experts assembled here?

 
At 04 July, 2006 15:41, Blogger default.xbe said...

if everything here so so wrong its not even worth your time to point out our "mistakes" why bother commenting?

 
At 04 July, 2006 15:46, Blogger shawn said...

if everything here so so wrong its not even worth your time to point out our "mistakes" why bother commenting?

Last I checked, you can't really count to zero.

But we all know it's just his excuse so he can say we make mistakes without pointing them out.

 
At 04 July, 2006 17:09, Blogger apathoid said...

I'm sorry you feel that way, bg. I'm sorry I'm not telling you what you want to hear, and what you so desperately want to believe about 9/11. But running away from an argument is childish. If our arguments are "so uninformed and untrue", maybe pointing out specific instances of this(and backing your instances with something more than idle speculation) would be more beneficial than taking your ball and going home.

I genuinely feel sorry for you guys, bg. In a couple months, I'll get sick of this conspiracy nonsense and go on with my life. You guys will still be talking about Silverstein "pulling" WTC7 15 years from now. By then, still noone involved in your conspiracy will have come forward(because there is noone to come forward), numerous primetime debunking shows and reenactments will have been aired. You'll brush all of this aside and continue spouting nonsense. People in your everyday life, perhaps even those close to you, will think you've gone totally insane. Your life will revolve around chasing the shadows of the NWO, Illuminati or whoever you think is guilty of 9/11, 3/11, 7/7, Moon hoax, JFK, Pearl Harbor, WTC 93, PA 103, etc, etc.......meanwhile the rest of us will be kicking back in something I like to call reality

 
At 05 July, 2006 12:14, Blogger Alex said...

apathoid,

Your debate is so uninformed and untrue that I refuse to address.


Eh?

The guy says the following things:

1) You can kill someone with a boxcutter.

2) The hijackers claimed to have bombs.

3) The alleged hijackers WERE pilots, and were familiar with the 757/767.

4) All they did was steer the aircraft into the targets.

5) Steering an aircraft into a target is easy, especialy for people with flight experience.

And he makes no claims other than that.

Now, which part of that is "uninformed and untrue" BG? Care to point out a single lie, or even a mistake? C'mon, just ONE!


The points that you do bring up on cut no ice with me previously, so there is no reason for them to address them again with this incredible worthless waste of time.

Well, you've never explained exactly WHY they "cut no ice" with you. So, please, let's hear it. You can make two lists. List number one: "Things that Apathoid is lying about", and List number two: "things BG doesn't want to beleive".

 
At 05 July, 2006 19:33, Blogger kodiak said...

I have been a lurker for a little while and I have to say that the "debate" here about patriotism is really interesting to me. I'm leaning toward the belief that Avery, inexorable and crew haven't the foggiest clue what the word really means...

A patriot doesn't seek to destroy his/her own government, they seek to fix it.

Do you know what would bring out "the truth"? Get every single person who is a member of this "movement" to run for public office. And I don't mean that you should aim high, run for city council, for the water commission, for anything you can get into. Then work your ass off there. Do your elected job and do it well... start a grass roots movement of honesty and integrity, and real truth and transparency in government. Work your way up from there. Eventually we may even see honesty, integrity and transparency in the White House again...

Oh, wait, I think I lost you at the word "work" didn't I? It's gonna consume way more time and effort for little to no reward for years to come if you tried my plan than if you sat at your computers and typed out more innane conspiracy theories based on no more than a few blurry screen caps and a thorough misunderstanding of how physics and the world in general works.

Well, it was worth a try... Even if your innane theories were correct (which I will not grant), what is your "movement" actually going to accomplish? Nothing, and then more nothing. Take the time that you pour into this and actually get out there and make a difference. Don't write to your congressman, work for him/her. Don't e-mail a newspaper, volunteer at one... there's all kinds of ways you could be helping to fix the things that are wrong in America... but apparently you'd prefer the tabloid sensationalism of your little CTs.

Please, prove me wrong. Celebrate America by not only living in America, celebrate by living for America.


Richard, my hat is off to you for your bravery and your courage and your willingness to defend even those who have no idea the sacrifices that are made for them every single day. You are walking the walk when these fools can't even figure out how to crawl.

 

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