Thursday, September 07, 2006

Brilliant Editorial in the Seattle PI

I could not have said it better myself...

Most striking of all is the connection that those theories have with others. While the people proposing them may vary greatly in age, politics and education, they almost invariably are conspiracy theorists by nature. In addition to believing the World Trade Centers were demolished by the "New World Order," they also push theories that man did not walk on the moon, Minnesota Sen. Paul Wellstone was assassinated by the Bush administration, the Srebrenica massacre and even the Holocaust never happened.

In fact, the overlap with anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial is quite unsettling. A frequent source for their claims is the American Free Press, a fringe newspaper founded by Willis Carto, a man called "one of the most influential American anti-Semitic propagandists" by the Anti-Defamation League, and considered a founder of the Holocaust denial movement. Even such notable figures as Professor Jim Fetzer, co-founder of the group "Scholars for 9/11 Truth," do not shy from citing it, as if it were as credible as The New York Times.

26 Comments:

At 07 September, 2006 22:57, Blogger James B. said...

I am not used to writing with a word limit, it was actually pretty hard to narrow it down to 1-2 quick points.

Don't forget to check out the comments. The truthers don't seem to like me very much. They have turned out with their usual talking points. I swear, if I have to listen to someone talk about Operation Northwood one more time... Plus I get a response from a friend...

 
At 08 September, 2006 00:55, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Nice work, JB.

Bonus points for yanking Kevin "Waterboy" Ryans chain in person!

 
At 08 September, 2006 01:09, Blogger Simon Lazarus said...

There is one problem with this editorial.

The writer says that the American Free Press is cited "as if it is as credible as The New York Times."

I hate to inform them, but that rag IS as credible as The New York Times.

In short, not at all.

 
At 08 September, 2006 04:48, Blogger nes718 said...

In fact, the overlap with anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial is quite unsettling.

The violins playing and tugging at those heart string, LOL!

 
At 08 September, 2006 04:55, Blogger nes718 said...

Here's some "overlap."

Following Zakheim and Pentagon trillions to Israel and 9-11
Think of this as part two of Recherche du trillions perdu, my Online Journal article on Dov Zakheim, former Bush appointee as Pentagon Comptroller from May 4, 2001 to March 10, 2004. At that time he was unable to explain the disappearance of $1 trillion dollars. Actually, nearly three years earlier, Donald Rumsfeld announced on September 10, 2001 that an audit discovered $2.3 trillion was also missing from the Pentagon books. That story, as I mentioned, was buried under 9-11’s rubble. The two sums disappeared on Zakheim’s watch.

 
At 08 September, 2006 05:12, Blogger shawn said...

The violins playing and tugging at those heart string, LOL!

Hmmm he makes a factual connection and it's an appeal to emotion?

God, you're dumb.

 
At 08 September, 2006 05:19, Blogger shawn said...

Wow nessie that site is a hotbead of idiocy.

Someone uses that lame "it's not antisemitism, we're just criticizing Israel" defense in an editorial. She fails to realize the cited left-wing groups and Muslim radicals at protests hold signs with swastikas inside Shields of David and specifically mention "Jews" and "kikes".

No antisemitism here. Move along. Hey, let's party like it's 1939.

 
At 08 September, 2006 05:47, Blogger nes718 said...

cited left-wing groups and Muslim radicals at protests hold signs with swastikas inside Shields of David and specifically mention "Jews" and "kikes".

No antisemitism here. Move along. Hey, let's party


The violins playing loud and clear in your heart. Tell me, what was the last "Jewish" city destroyed by laser guided munitions? anti-Semitism my ass.

 
At 08 September, 2006 05:53, Blogger shawn said...

Tell me, what was the last "Jewish" city destroyed by laser guided munitions?

And how many American cities were vaporized by atom bombs during WW2?

You make the WORST arguments ever.

 
At 08 September, 2006 06:39, Blogger Good Lieutenant said...

They're not arguments. They're brainfarts.

 
At 08 September, 2006 06:45, Blogger nes718 said...

And how many American cities were vaporized by atom bombs during WW2?

That's the point. The aggressors are never really the victims as the so called "antisemitism" proclaims.

Besides everybody knows that all those hate hoaxes are perpetrated by Jews themselves to give the appearance of perpetual victimhood.

 
At 08 September, 2006 06:45, Blogger nes718 said...

They're not arguments. They're brainfarts.

Not my fault what I'm telling you gives your brain agida.

 
At 08 September, 2006 06:52, Blogger nes718 said...

Will you show up at GZ with a sign blaming the Jews for 9/11 or not?

If you're really following what I and others have been saying, it was not solely the "Jews" that did 911. It was the Zionist Neocons with the help of Christian Evangelical lackeys and drug running Arab criminals all for the benefit of Israel and Zionist expansion and control of the Middle East.

 
At 08 September, 2006 07:12, Blogger nes718 said...

No need. These guys are doing a fine job.

 
At 08 September, 2006 08:11, Blogger Good Lieutenant said...

It was the Zionist Neocons with the help of Christian Evangelical lackeys and drug running Arab criminals all for the benefit of Israel and Zionist expansion and control of the Middle East.

Riiight. That's perfectly logical.

Israel hasn't expanded its territory in over 40 years - in fact, they've given Gaza up in the past two years.

Looks like the "master plan" isn't going so well, eh?

And one.

 
At 08 September, 2006 08:13, Blogger Good Lieutenant said...

That last salvo was directed at nessie the Holocaust denier.

 
At 08 September, 2006 08:18, Blogger Alex said...

Don't try logic LT. It seems he thinks it's perfectly logical that the Jews are committing genocide by letting Arab and Muslim populations increase and expanding their nation by giving away land. All status quo in the Logic Denial movement.

 
At 08 September, 2006 08:53, Blogger nes718 said...

Israel hasn't expanded its territory in over 40 years - in fact, they've given Gaza up in the past two years.

Haven't they returned to Gaza? And what was all this noise in Lebanon? The Zionist regime is thirsty for the waters of the Litani.

While in Iraq, the methodical depopulation is taking place clearing the way for the "Greater Israel" when the time is right. No expansionism going on you say? BULLSHIT.

 
At 08 September, 2006 08:56, Blogger nes718 said...

how the Pearl harbor attack was planned by the US government, as well as the several like theories that came out around the time of the Lincoln assassination.

It's called uncovering suppress facts about world history. The only crackpots are those who believe the "official" propaganda broadcast far and wide on the abccnnmsnbcfoxcbs "news" network.

 
At 08 September, 2006 09:19, Blogger Alex said...

It's called uncovering suppress facts about world history.

No, it's called LSD flashbacks.

 
At 08 September, 2006 10:23, Blogger nes718 said...

How could Nessie miss such an opportunity to tell the world who really carried out 9/11?

Instead he somehow decides to let some obscure Jewish group handle this all-important message.

Why?


The Jewish anti-Zionist movement is anything but obscure and I see you guys fear them more than me. That's the point. They are better suited to deliver the message than those of us outside the loop and who would then be accused of what you cannot accuse the anti-Zionist Jewish movement of.

Regardless, the web is a much better place to deliver the facts than some sign that would be marginalized by the likes of you clowns so... The beat goes on.. ;)

 
At 08 September, 2006 12:58, Blogger Alex said...

The Jewish anti-Zionist movement is anything but obscure and I see you guys fear them more than me.

That's rather like saying that one fears Barney the Dinosaur more than he fears the Telletubbies. Or that 0.000000000000000000000000000001 galons of gasoline will drive your car further than zero galons of gasoline. It may be true, but it's really quite irrelevant.

 
At 08 September, 2006 15:08, Blogger shawn said...

The aggressors are never really the victims as the so called "antisemitism" proclaims.

Retaliation once one is attacked does not make an aggressor.

Oh, unless they're Jewish.

 
At 08 September, 2006 15:09, Blogger shawn said...

The Jewish anti-Zionist movement is anything but obscure

Nessie, I know far more about Israel, Zionism, and antisemitism than you ever will - the group of Jews who is anti-Zionist is quite puny.

 
At 08 September, 2006 20:25, Blogger James B. said...

Believe it or not Nessie, you weren't exactly my target audience.

 
At 09 September, 2006 08:59, Blogger Alex said...

No Joan, but it doesn't surprise me that a CT nut like you is also incapable of understanding polls. The poll you're referring to was biased by giving two possible options for Yes ("very likely" and "somewhat likely") and only one for No. In addition it was phrased in such a way that even someone who believed the administrations only involvement was in not listening to information which they couldn't verify would be forced to answer Yes. Now, there's a huge difference between believing that the admin ignored intel, and believing that a holograph-projecting cruise missile took down the WTC. One of the two is an understandable belief that may well be true - the other is a lunatics version of events which only a truly twisted mind could believe, let alone conceive.

 

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