Saturday, September 23, 2006

When Truthers Attack

The Paul Joseph Watson attack on Debunking 911 is reposted on 911 blogger. It is drawing the usual paranoid comments, including Killtown being accused of being a shill. This post takes the prize for paranoia though:

I've been looking into these guys. A couple links. Very odd!!!

This is really far out. Check this. We protested at the debut of United 93 in NYC, and the anti-loose change crew was there handing our flyers attacking the movement. We saw one of the same people at the GZ - 9/11/06 rally. I got really curious, and started looking into it. First of all, I found a picture of the guy, his name is Mark, at Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyctours/242158290/in/set-72157594282054792...

It turns out that the anti-9/11 folks took lots of pictures that day, and put them up at Flickr with really negative tag lines. You can look at all of them here.

http://www.truthmove.org/groundzero.html

Later doing a search for these people online I found this forum post.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63800

It is written by Gravy 2004, who also posted pictures to Flickr. Notice the website where the comment is posted. The James Randi Educational Foundation. Skeptics? More like an obvioius CIA front. James Randi has been debunking pseudo-science for the last 40 years, writing dozens of books about ghosts, big foot, and and UFOs. That in itself is no problem. But it is apparent that his intention is only to debunk popular myths, and not to question any institutional deceptions. He promotes a mainstream version of skepticsm that allows its followers to feel insightful, and yet safe. No paradigm shift required.

Now here's the catch, and I mean no disrespect, but am only relating what I read at Wikipedia. William Rodriguez used to work very closely with James Randi. Rodriguez was specifically adept at making himself welcome in a community to be debunked with the intention of researching is weaknesses from within. I really don't know what to say. I wonder what Rodriguez has to say about his old mentor.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven. I honestly don't believe that these people could claim to be skeptical and generate such a pile of weak analysis. This effort appears to have emerged very recently, with many sites popping up at once in a coordinated attack. I suppose that its possible that they are just serious mainstream history and science nerds. But their work is not nearly academic enough to suggest a seriously skeptical approach. I suspect something a bit more nefarious.

Let's all keep our eyes on these guys, and start tearing down their crappy science. Let's tear down some of our crappy science while we're at it. TRUTH!!!

International Truth Movementhttp://www.truthmove.org/

Ooh, we are being watched as we post in our CIA sponsored websites. Do they realize how stupid they sound? People make blogs and websites for subjects as trivial as pet clothing and cookie recipes, do they really think the only way someone would start discussing one of the most significant events of the 20th century is if the CIA organized it?

And if our science is so "crappy" why is it the only thing they can attack is our grammar?

3 Comments:

At 23 September, 2006 12:20, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

I am still waiting for my CIA paycheck...waiting...waiting...

 
At 23 September, 2006 14:39, Blogger shawn said...

I wonder how the inside jobbers are gonna explain the claims of Osama's terminal illness and/or death from French and Saudi sources.

Although I'd be happy as a clam (boy, is that an understatement) if he did indeed die I'm gonna take these reports with a whole mountain of salt.

 
At 24 September, 2006 07:33, Blogger Ã˜yvind said...

I am still waiting for my CIA paycheck...waiting...waiting...
Keep waiting:).

It's interesting to note how good the truthers are at attacking the messenger rather than the message.

Popular Mechanics debunks their claims and their web sites and forum posts fill up with posts such as "OMG the popular mechanics r teh pwned, eh, owned by the couzin o teh"... And so on.

 

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