How You Can Tell It's A 9-11 "Truth" Documentary
Because the first words said are a lie. 9-11 Mysteries has a weird opening sequence which looks like somebody changing the channels; from a Fox News opening to cartoon to a soap opera to a cooking show to professional wrestling. Then the movie really begins. About 17 seconds in, a bald-headed guy appears and says, "My name is Brad and I'm a conservative Republican."
Except that even the creator of the film admits that Brad is not a conservative Republican. In an interview on Air America Phoenix yesterday (MP3 file), Sophia, the director and (space cadet) narrator of the film, says at 1:50, "My friend Brad billed himself as a conservative Republican and I was considered the liberal, just because people like to have opposites...."
posted by Pat @ 10:08 AM
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They can't even keep track of all the lies that they just fall out of their mouths like rain. Hilarious.
Looks like Do-Over Dylan has been hanging around the NWO crowd for too long. According to him, the "Final Cut" will include:
9/11/2006
Reichstag Fire
Pearl Harbor
Manhattan Project
Nuremberg Trials/Project Paperclip/MKULTRA/Fort Detrick
Northwoods
Gulf of Tonkin
'93 WTC Bombing
Payne Stewart (May or may not)
PNAC
Dov Zakheim, PNAC member and dual-israeli citizen, becomes Pentagon Financial Comptroller
DOD Memo
John O'Neill and W199I
Put Options
Pentagon Missing 2.3 Trillion Dollars
At least I only had to watch the first 90 seconds to get an idea of where he was coming from and how full of shit he is...
TAM
Good catch, Manny!
Dylan says it will be the final cut, but I know better.
Hey 9M -
A little late with your daily off-topic news item today. I was getting worried.
The article doesn't really say anything that the Bush administration hasn't already admitted. Not enough communication between intelligence sources pre-9/11, underestimation of Al-Qaeda, outdated defense doctrines, etc...
So how do I reconcile controlled demolition with LIHOP?
Does LIHOP allow that Islamic extremism does in fact exist and that 19 of those extremists carried out the attacks?
If so, who defeated the Zionist New World Order I've been hearing so much about?
I apologize for asking questions, but it's just so darn hard keeping track of what you guys believe in.
a Fox News opening to cartoon to a soap opera to a cooking show to professional wrestling
I wonder if they paid for the rights to use any of this.
LIHOP all but confirmed -
Ahh yes, the logical flexibility of conspiracy theorists, the government is making up the threat of Islamic terrorism by attacking itself, while simultaneously ignoring this non-existent threat.
1. Taken by surprise
2. Incompetant
3. Negligent
4. LIHOP
5. MIHOP
I would change that to:
1. Couldn't have prevented it
2. Negligent/Incompetent
3. Criminally negligent (LIHOP, as you say)
4. Complicit (MIHOP)
Given the evidence you could make a strong argument for 2 and no more. Personally I think the Bush administration, and the preceding administrations, deserve the benefit of the doubt.
You can look at all the pre-9/11 intelligence and it's obvious now where it was all headed. You're working the problem from the back of the book, though.
You have to realize that they didn't see all of the facts you listed coherently. Because of breakdowns in communications they only saw the evidence of the attacks in isolation.
None of the intelligence indicated a possible date for the attacks, the exact nature of the attacks (using planes as human-guided missiles), the targets of the attacks, or the identities of the attackers.
In order to say that Bush let it happen you have to show that he knew all of that information. In fact, he didn't have any of that information - even according to the article you presented today. All you've proved so far is that we were close to figuring it out.
The PDB mentioned using planes as missiles .... at the very least FAA should have been notified.
Are you talking about the august 6 memo? Can you quote where it says that? I didn't see it anywhere, only vague warnings that Bin Laden was interested in hijackings.
Sorry, but if Bush goes out of power, it will be at the end of his term. I'm sure even then the truthers will still claim victory.
You and your group are such arrogant pukes.
The amount of influence the "truth" movement will have on getting rid of the Republicans is Miniscule. You really think a few thousand internet freaks can take credit for getting them out. They have done more damage to themselves through pediphilia, incompetence, and ignorance, to get themselves out...you are just being silly if you really feel the "truth" movement had any real hand in getting them out...and they will be out come 2008.
TAM
9-11M -
If you don't have a sense of humor, you'll die at avery early age.
We don't need to do anything useful because we are satisfied with the evidence already presented.
And as for changing minds? When I see loud and obnoxious people worked into a frenzy, I tend to want to STAY AWAY, not join them. So, in fact, I feel much more comfortable with this crew.
Here's a few reasons why:
1> If you disagree with them, they don't BAN you from their forum.
2>They are level headed
3>They stay on topic and address all points.
4>They don't blindly cut and paste material from other sources that they themselves have not already read up on.
Sorry, man, your group is the one tasked with changing minds, not us.
Oh, yeah, and if you're going to put yourself on display for the public, be ready for mockery.
I don't see the people on here willfully posting ridiculous videos, so guess what? Cry somewhere else.
It's just like the pathetic souls on American Idol who are upset when their shitty, animal murdering voices are ridiculed. You're going on national television, you have it coming, just like truthers on tape.
"dude, first of all, there might be some violent truthers but a majority are nonviolent. if bush does go out of power it will be due to mass protests and not any kind of "revolution""
You mean like those mass protests yesterday? I hear they got 40 people to show up in Columbus, Ohio.
and actually come to think of it banning you is the perfect idea
This is why we call you morons.
In any case getting Bush out of power is very imp else we are going to have nuclear war with north korea. (much more probable than your 'revolution')
WTF? Bush will be out of power in 2 years. Meanwhile North Korean missiles are so inaccurate they couldn't even hit Japan. Their range is nowhere near long enough to strike the US. Even assuming they iron out the bugs in the missiles, and get their nukes working too, it'll be MUCH longer than 2 years before they can pose a threat to the US. In other words, a nuclear war any time on Bush's watch would be rather one sided. And if you think that's likely to happen, you're right the fuck out of 'er.
if he wants to end the korea crisis all he has to do is lift sanctions. they will not do a nuclear test afterwards i will guarantee you.
You are a funny, funny man.
Frankly, I think the best solution would be to go to China and say "hey guys, either you tell North Korea to cool it, or we're giving Nukes to South Korea". THAT would be much more likely to end NK's nuclear testing.
I think we have proved that if you take the incredible volume of good intel, bad intel, and contradictory intel from the last several years, and using 20/20 hindsight carefully filter out all the bits that suggest something along the lines of 9/11, then you can make it look like all signs pointed to 9/11. Of course that's reverse engineering, but some people find that convincing.
Wow this is going to be a blockbuster. Just stick with the facts nobody can't debunk government lies. One thing skeptics won't ever talk about is the golf of tonkin,operation northwoods,operation ajax,etc.
Had I known that they were somehow related to 9/11, maybe I would have.
At least I talk about my cat, who designed the holographic World Trade Center.
9/11 Mysteries is gone? I thought he'd never leave. That's the difference between us and them. Go over to their forums and they'll ban you for disagreeing. And when you write Dylan asking him why this happens he'll tell you that he didn't remove it his administrators did. That's bullshit. But when they come to a site like this we don't have to ban them. In fact, we make them realize that they are so full of shit that thay leave on their own accord because we're "mean" to them. Hilarious
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