South Park on 9/11 Conspiracies
I could have done without all the scatalogical humor and erection jokes, but hey, this is South Park. Hot Air has a clip, and a link to my previous post on members of the 9/11 movement being government stooges, which eerily echos the plot of the episode (I hadn't seen it at the time I made the post). Of course the Loosers are having fits over this.
My favorite bit has to be:
Cartman: They aren't going to find out who did it, but they will make up a scapegoat, send him to detention, and make us all believe it. It will be 9/11 all over again.
Kyle: Will you shut up about 9/11!
Cartman: Kyle, why are you so afraid of the truth?
Kyle: Because anybody who thinks 9/11 is a conspiracy is a retard!
Cartman: Oh really, well did you know that over 1/4th of the people in America think that 9/11 was a conspiracy? Are you saying that 1/4th of Americans are retards?
Kyle: Yes, I am saying that 1/4th of Americans are retards.
Stan: At least 1/4th.
Kyle: Let's take a test sample. There's 4 of us, you're a retard. That's 1/4th.
And yes, Cartman does blame the Jewish boy.
Update: Alex Jones' website criticizes factual errors in the show. Uhh, guys, it's a cartoon!
posted by James B. @ 10:13 PM
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scatalogical humor and erection jokes
Those parts had me laughing the hardest.
"He died like a pig."
Great stuff.
Speaking truth to Twoofers.
Like hey man, they really made us look good, I mean the Hardley Boys?
Did you see there were only 2 - you just can't make Jason look as pretty as us!
We're just asking questions!
Like man, it was cool - that's me on the screen.
Dylan,
You haven't a CLUE!
I was disappointed with the episode. Act 2 didn't make any sense, not even in a "the point is that it makes no sense" way. They tried to cram too many conspiracy twists into a 22-minute episode.
I was hoping for more of a straightforward South Park treatment: the subject is introduced, the town gets caught up in the hysteria, the kids investigate, they expose the small number of agenda-driven idiots orchestrating it all, Stan or Kyle makes a really insightful speech, and everyone admits they've been total douchebags.
A better plot would have been for Cartman to investigate the conspiracy, instead of Stan and Kyle. Cartman meets the 9-11 Truth guy, they get to the White House and G.W. Bush tells them "oh, we make that conspiracy stuff up ourselves to keep the one-fourth of Americans that are retards in line." Then a priceless shot of 9-11 Truth Guy and Cartman looking angrily bewildered, as they realize that they're the retards.
They protest, Bush tells them to leave, Cartman and 9-11 Truth guy ask if they're going to kill them, Bush says no because they're helping draw attention away from the massive governmental incompetence that allowed it to happen. Then maybe 9-11 Truth guy says he's going to continue researching the fake conspiracy because he just got a book deal.
Having said that, it was still a decent bollocking of the 9/11 conspiracy crowd. They did mostly standard gags, like the "show how convoluted and stupid the conspiracy plot is when you put it all together and explain it in once sentence" joke, a la Filibuster Cartoons. I'm sure that sailed right over the Truthers' heads. I was hoping for something a little more insightful, though.
Also: Clue Goo! Which really sounds like something you'd want to rub on yourself after you've been bukakked with stupid. You know, like an antidote. I'm sure that will become a 9-11 conspiracy debate meme, along with "one fourth of Americans are retards."
Triterope,
I kind of agree with you that it would have been a funnier episode if they would have done what you described.
But then the twoofers would have gotten immediately that they were being made fun of.
As it is now, on the LC forums, some of the idiots actually believe that the episode SUPPORTS the CTers.
That right there is the real comedy gold!
"They tried to cram too many conspiracy twists into a 22-minute episode."
That's sorta the point. The twoofers cram so many contradictory, whackaloon theories into each nightmare fantasy they want to convince you of that they ultimately end up being jumbled, senseless and too untennable to continue paying attention to.
Or something.
I think I'm getting a clue - its point to the right!
As it is now, on the LC forums, some of the idiots actually believe that the episode SUPPORTS the CTers. That right there is the real comedy gold!
True. While this is in fact comedy gold for us, I think some of the jabs at the conspiracy were too subtle for an audience that isn't familiar with the 9-11 conspiracy theories (as we, of course, are).
For example, during Cartman's show-and-tell, he does the "where's the plane" dance. We all know this is a stupid argument, but if you look at it in a vacuum it might seem reasonable at first.
I know it was supposed to look that way to the kids in the class, but that scene desperately needed Kyle yelling out "there's thousands of pictures of plane pieces on the Pentagon lawn, fat ass" or something like that, to make it clearer to the TV audience that Cartman was raising invalid points.
As for Loosers thinking the episode made their case, that really is pathetic. But the episode wasn't nearly as hard on them as it could/should have been. In the narrative, there really WAS a government conspiracy. The 9-11Truth.org character was treated a lot less viciously than cultural villians usually are on South Park.
I know they killed him twice, but that's pretty low on this show's humiliation scale. Compare and contrast with the "hybrid cars" episode, where they had people sniffing their own farts and making lip-smacky noises. And their only crime against society was living in San Francisco.
That's sorta the point. The twoofers cram so many contradictory, whackaloon theories into each nightmare fantasy they want to convince you of that they ultimately end up being jumbled, senseless and too untennable to continue paying attention to.
Maybe, but it didn't work comedically. Exaggeration doesn't work when what you're lampooning is already ludicrous. Instead of a government plot to invent a government plot, this episode needed 22 minutes of Stan and Kyle saying to Cartman, "Dude, that's retarded." As I said earlier, the subject matter lends itself to a straightforward treatment.
The episode wasn't nearly as funny as it could have been, and the plot was constructed in a way that let the retards have some dignity. Yeah, they got smacked around a little. But mostly, it was like watching Jeffrey Dahmer get a parking ticket.
Then again, maybe this episode is just part of a larger spoof, and that the above flaws will be corrected in The Mystery of the Urinal Deuce: Second Edition.
Cartman: Oh really, well did you know that over 1/4th of the people in America think that 9/11 was a conspiracy? Are you saying that 1/4th of Americans are retards?
Kyle: Yes, I am saying that 1/4th of Americans are retards.
Stan: At least 1/4th.
Kyle: Let's take a test sample. There's 4 of us, you're a retard. That's 1/4th.
I don't normally watch south park, and I missed this episode, but after a line like that I GOTTA see it. Just got the torrent and there's over 700 people downloading it only 4 hours after it was first posted.
You must not have watched, the same show I did. I know funny, and that was funny! IMO.
Well, I know funny too, and IMO this episode isn't Trey and Matt's best. It hit the target, but it could have hit it a lot better.
I thought the show was funny. Could have been better, but that seems to be the general opinion. Best part about it is that it will expose a lot more people in the 15-25 range to the fact that there are conspiracy theories about 9/11. And that the people who believe them are retards. Most 17 year olds who don't know anything about the CTs are going to be introduced to their theories and the fact that they are retarded right off the bat. From their favorite show ever, ever, no less.
"They tried to cram too many conspiracy twists into a 22-minute episode."
I agree but it depends on who's watching. People who don't know much about it might be confused(particularly because they don't know about all of the theories that the CTists are spouting out), but the comedy is there, it isn't that hard to get, and it will definitely introduce some young people to the idiocy of the CTists.
For people like us, who know about all of the different theories, it was genius.
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In Team America, anyone questioning the war is a terrorist, when in truth Michael Moore does in Farenheit 9/11 exactly with Parker and Stone do with this episode: set out to make Bush look like a buffoon.
---Alex Jones
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Alex Jones is a dipshit. His grammar doesn't make any sense for one thing, and even though we know he meant to say what(not with), he still misses the mark even more than Michael Bay when he made Pearl Harbor. Team America is pretty much about making fun of everybody(especially pussies and assholes. I guess dicks were somewhat safe).
And the SP episode, while it did make fun of Bush(everyone knows he's incompetent, is Michael Moore supposed to be some kind of genius?), was more about exposing America to the 25% of people who are retards.Or was it 46%? I guess it depends on the poll.
Easy to tell that the Ctists are going to say that this episode was more about Bush being a retard than it is about them being retards. Hate to tell you Alex Jones, but Parker and Stone set out to make you and your ilk look like buffons. Dipshit.
Oops...meant to say buffOOns.
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