Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Smart Loose Change Post of the Day

That's right, a smart post (actually several of them) at the Loose Change forum. Needless to say, they're made by debunkers in the Skeptics Forum. It starts out with the famed Monty Hall problem:

A game show host hides a prize behind one of three doors. The contestant has to guess which door hides the prize. The rules of the game are as follows.

Firstly, the contestant chooses a door and tells the host this is the one she thinks the prize is behind. The host must then open one of the other doors. Of course, the host does not want to reveal the whereabouts of the prize so he always opens a losing door.

The host then asks the contestant if she would like to stick with the door she originally chose or switch to the other unopened one.

Should she switch doors?

Of course, the answer, (counterintuitively) is that she should indeed switch doors. Calcas and A Very Sly Denial do a terrific job of schooling PDoh:

For instance, let's take just one of your "statistically significant" events. You say that it's statistically significant that they managed to hit 75% of their targets, but you are assigning importance as if that was the intention. What if they had hit 100%? Then you'd say "what are the odds of hitting all of the targets!". What if they were completely thwarted? Then you'd say "what are the odds that the gov't could have stopped every attack? You are assigning importance after the fact.

Exactly! For example, they say, "What were the odds that all 19 hijackers would get into the country?" But of course we know they tried and failed to get at least one more hijacker into the country.


At 29 November, 2006 13:51, Blogger Dog Town said...

Sorry had to spam

Don't have time to play today, but I thought everyone should see this!Saw it at JREF, screen shot done !

PD'oh looking for love, pictures and all! Looks like I had imagined, a skin head! FLMAO!

Sorry off topic, but ya just gotta laugh!


At 29 November, 2006 13:57, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Wow hs sure is cute!!


I am surprised he does not have a big swastika on his forehead.

At 29 November, 2006 14:35, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Russian Mobster tied to 9/11 in Assassination Plot in Ukraine

At 29 November, 2006 14:36, Blogger CHF said...

Can't argue with that.

At 29 November, 2006 15:35, Blogger Alex said...

So now it's the CIA, NSA, NIST, Germans, Dutch, Jews, and the Russian mob.

I guess the ONLY people not associated with 9/11 are Muslims, right BG?

At 29 November, 2006 16:26, Blogger shawn said...

Wow, that MDM in the thread is retarded. Not only does he/she not understand probability, but he/she then moves the goal posts and does it poorly.

At 29 November, 2006 16:57, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

Can't argue with that.

he will be along to post links to

At 29 November, 2006 17:53, Blogger Avery Dylan said...

Like hey man, I mean, like math? Ha ha ha. You expect us to figure odds?

Like, I mean, we just make statements about math and stuff but figure it out?

Man, that's what Jason is for. Like he's a researcher and stuff.

At 29 November, 2006 18:54, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...


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At 29 November, 2006 20:01, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Dog Town, you have to figure these Denier nuts get pretty lonely. They live in a world of conspiracy and hate, they aren't exactly the kind of people who are in heavy demand.

Denise Richards said she dumped Charlie Sheen because, besides being a pervert and a drug addict, he was too into conspiracy theories.

If they weren't slandering so many many good people and our country, they would merit pity.

At 30 November, 2006 08:02, Blogger Bubbers said...

I can't help myself this one is old but I've gotta nominate it for Stupid LCF post of the day. Apparently Killtown thinks the Lidle plane crash was faked....

"Leave it up to the gov't to develop a lame theory of what caused the plane to do this:

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Here's the deal, NO PLANE CRASHED THERE!!!

They told us the engine was found inside the apartment so they didn't have to plant a hot one outside on the ground. In order for an engine to get in the apartment, the nose of the small plane had to go through the window, yet there are no wing marks on the building from this plane that reportedly crashed at 120mph and hardly any windows are broken around the epicenter, even though the crash supposedly caused a huge fireball when it hit:

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Notice that above and below windows have virtually the same amount of damage with BOTH columns to the right of the windows are missing and BOTH have small breaching at the bottom of the window paines.

They planted a bunch a plane debris convienently all together on the sidewalk to make it look like a plane crashed into the building:

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And to prove to you that all that plane debris was planted convienently on the sidewalk, notice no plane debris landed on the ledge of the 1st floor when it supposedly fell some 30 stories from above:

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And never mind that the just happened to find the passport on the ground of the celebrity to distract us away from the crash itself:

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and the odd date of when it happened:

Crash: 10-11-06
Flipped: 90-11-01

Our gov't is getting good at faking plane crashes."

Dylan has to be regretting the end of LC when they credit this guy for his "research". He discredits himself with every retarded word out of his mouth. Here's the address for the whole thread...

At 30 November, 2006 08:09, Blogger Bubbers said...

I mean this guy is so fucking dumb words can't describe. I hate to name call but my God, when everyone tells him how retarded he is all he does is call names and try to make everyone else feel retarded for not understanding him even though he makes NO SENSE to anyone but himself. Even the truthers think he's full of shit(most of them at least). This guy literally might be legally retarded. I'd love to see how he scores on an IQ test. Absolutely no rational or critcal thinking skills. EVERYTHING is a conspiracy to him.

At 30 November, 2006 08:15, Blogger Bubbers said...

OK we might need to have 2 stupid posts of the day. Here is some other truther licking KT's taint and sounding like a moron....

"Just look at the key points

1. 10/11/6 flipped upside-down is 9/1101
2. The crash happened on 72nd street and the building number was 524.
7+2 = 9 .. 5+2+4 = 11 .. 9/11!
3. They found another freaking passport with little debri, yet again!
4. The coastguard footage of the incident does not even show a plane flying over the river, or even a plane at all for that matter. which contradicts the so-called flight path.
5. Why no markings on the sides of the building?
6. Since you see absolutely no visual evidence of a plane crash on the floors it hit, you would expect all the debri to be on the ground.. AND the first floor ledge. There is MINIMAL debri..

did another plane supposedly vaporize again going 120 miles an hour??????????

please.. I agree KT. inside job all the way "


At 30 November, 2006 09:55, Blogger James B. said...

We have posted on Killtown several times before. Now he has some bizarre theory up that the crash in Shanksville was a military drone that crashed accidently.

At 30 November, 2006 19:17, Blogger Bubbers said...

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At 30 November, 2006 19:19, Blogger Bubbers said...

Yeah this guy is ridiculous in every way. You gotta like him being around though. When you spew out conspiracy theories about everything, nobody's going to believe anything you say, with the exception of a few extremely gullible people.


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