The Hustler Article
Is hilariously bad. You can view scans of the individual pages; here's Page 1, Page 2, Page 3 and Page 4.
It's chock full of the usual nutbar claims, like "faster than freefall speed", that Steven Jones's "research" has been peer-reviewed (it hasn't), that the NIST report posits pancake collapse (it doesn't), that sulfur residue indicates thermite was used to cut the columns (actually sulfur is a major ingredient in drywall), etc. Oddly, despite the thermite claims, the article also shows "cutter charges" on a column. It does not focus on any one Denier, but rather throws them all into the mix: From Judy Wood to Uncle Fetzer to Jim Hoffman to Eric Hufschmid, all come in for their 15 minutes of Hustler fame (fortunately no nude Judy Wood pix).
It does contain this startling claim from Korey Rowe about Loose Change:
The first film cost $2,000; the new budget's over $20 million.
posted by Pat @ 7:26 AM
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23 Comments:
More mistakes: Jason Bermas is spelled as Jason Berman, ST911.org is not a new organization (and almost defunct) and Jim Hoffman is not a physicist but a software engineer.
The following is not spam. Here's how I justify what some of you think is disruptive or worse.
If there is, in fact, any validity to reasons for questioning the official story of 9/11, instead pointing toward a criminal element which extends far beyond Islamic Terrorist Organizations into the FBI, CIA, and parts of our military industrial complex, one would need to provide evidence that such a seemingly preposterous idea could be true.
From my viewpoint, those of you who reject a fair hearing to connect such dots are playing the following logical game:
1) 9/11 alternative story claims are outrageous. We have proved what nutballs person a, b, and c are.
2) When links and arguments are raised to debate the topic, you dismiss the content of the discussion, arguing that the material is off-topic, implicitly appealing to the very same logic that you used to dismiss the questions in round 1.
It seems many of you expect this blog to have some right to serve as a cheering section for only one side of the debate. If that is Pat's/James' goal and approach, so be it.
However, to the extent that they wish to allow reasonable argument, I don't believe I should avoid presenting relevant material, regardless of the volume of the insults directed my way.
Big Lies, Small Lies and False Flags Waving
from Smoking Mirrors>
Loose Change is porn. It's fitting that an article about it should be in a 4th rate porn magazine.
BG, if you haven't noticed we do no have anything against a debate, but a debate involves an exchange of opinion on a particular topic. We make a blog post on some subject, and you start posting links to a topic that has absolutely no connection. That is not debate.
This is on topic, isn't it?
PATRIOTISM AS PROPAGANDA - PART 1
Early in 2003, Josh Marshall, writing in Washington Monthly, proposed the notion that the main (unstated, and in fact hidden) goal behind the invasion of Iraq was not to win the war so much as to get the country embroiled in a long and bloody conflict. Sad and strange as it seems at first blush, the congruence between this idea and the reality on the ground has been impossible to ignore, and now -- for me, anyway -- this very strange and sad idea seems to provide the best explanation for many otherwise mysterious aspects of this so-called "disaster".
AFGHANISTAN Archives
Drug mafia, CIA blamed for sacking of Afghan governor
Why is it that the toofers all have the same excuses for their whine?
I guess PWS (perpetual whining syndrom) has gotten the better of all of them
Lying_Dylan said...
$20 million?
NO F'N WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08 January, 2007 08:10
Trying to stay on topic.....
"Way"
What the hell would they even spend $20 million on? Loose Change is nothing but a collection of other people's footage.
The LC boys are seriously deluded about their chances of succeeding in Hollywood. This could get really funny when it all implodes.
$20 million!
That is one hell of a bender.
$15.99 Million - Advertising/marketing
$4 Million - Copyright purchases
$50,000 - Film cost
TAM:)
I don't follow Hollywood news, but if Loose Change were really getting a $20 million budget, wouldn't it have turned up as a news item in "Variety" or "Entertainment Weekly" or some such publication? And who provided the $20M?
20 million sounds right.
Say 10 to 50k for the film itself.
That leaves 20 mill minus pocket change for the lawyers.
20 million sounds right. Say 10 to 50k for the film itself. That leaves 20 mill minus pocket change for the lawyers.
Maybe this is a real-life scam based on "The Producers", and Loose Change is playing the part of "Springtime for Hitler."
This is on topic, isn't it?
PATRIOTISM AS PROPAGANDA - PART 1
What are you, retarded? Are you seriously trying to tell me that you can't even figure out if a link is related to the current discussion or not? If that's the case BG, how do you manage to tie your shoes in the morning? Let me guess - Velcro?
Isn't Alex Jones always ranting about the moral decay of America,and how all the politicians are perverts? Now he is granting interviews with a magazine that specializes in orgies and gynecological photo spreads?
Just for comparison, the budget of Fahrenheit 911, probably the most commercially succesful "documentary" ever, and only made after Michael Moore had several profitable films, was only about $6 million.
March of the Penguins only had an $8 million budget, and they had to go all the way to Antarctica.
March of the Penguins only had an $8 million budget
That's crazy. I'd have figured it would have cost more like $8 MM per cameraman. That's about what it would take to get me to stand in Anarctica during the winter filming a bunch of huddled penguins.
The first film cost $2,000; the new budget's over $20 million.
Do over! "We do not have a $20 million budget. We do not have any budget, because nothing has even been signed. All we're doing at this point is negotiating, however, all negotiators are on-board 100% as far as we can tell.
If I had to guess, off the top of my head, our budget is approximately $1 million. For reference, Fahrenheit 9/11 cost approximately $6 million to produce."
I really think the following movie and website needs to be debunked. We need to get on this!
The movie "9/11: Press for Truth" should be debunked.
View the trailer for the movie at the following website:
( Running Time: 2 min. 13 sec.)
http://www.911pressfortruth.com/
Watch the entire film at Google Video:
( Running Time: 1 hr. 24 min. 21 sec. )
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=9%2F11%3A+Press+for+Truth
The Complete 9/11 Timeline at the Center for Cooperative Research website needs to be debunked as well:
Complete 9/11 Timeline:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
Patriots Question 9/11 website needs to be dubunked as well:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
LET'S GET ON IT!
BG keep it up! 'They' may not check out your links, but I do!
I think most people on this board are simply asking you to behave in a mature and respecful manner.
FROM DOUCHEBAG DYLAN OF ALL PEOPLE!!!
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