Saturday, January 20, 2007

A Reason to Root for Hillary?

Our buddy Nico Haupt says that her win in 2008 would be a setback for 9-11 Denial:

Thanks to Orwellan CyberFascists like multiple Cultist David Ray "One World Government" Griffin, Steven "Los Alamos" Jones, Bob "StarWars" Bowman, U.S. Government Front 911blogger.com, Alex "Scientology" Jones + Co., who are covering up the truth on 9/11 TV Fakery, the use of ExoW on 9/11 and the Infiltration at the TOP of this movement, a win of Hillary Clinton could mean 8 years more delay of any "9/11 Truth" plus WW4/5 between U.S., Russia and China...

33 Comments:

At 20 January, 2007 22:17, Blogger Alex said...

The question is, is a "setback for 9-11 denial" worth the other setbacks her victory would cause?

Love that vid:

"I come from a family where we always believed in the True Meaning of the American Way: Socialism"

She's really lost it.

 
At 20 January, 2007 22:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparantly, you do NOT know what FASCISM is.

Dictatorship with controlled PROPAGANDA, Endless WAR, and Suppression of the People. Easiest definition. ALMOST like the USA currently.

Have you even READ 1984 Orwell??

Freedom is Slavery
WAR is Peace
IGNORANCE is Strength

Here's the defining trait of your BU**SH** site : no anonymous comments to refute the LIES that you post.

 
At 20 January, 2007 23:34, Blogger Pat said...

Try Venezuela if you want to experience it firsthand, FUSA.

 
At 21 January, 2007 00:45, Blogger JPSlovjanski said...

Actually Fascist USA, it seems you do not know the meaning of Fascism. The US is not a "dictatorship" in the sense that a Fascist state is, where all power is held in the hands of one or a few men.

The closest America has ever been to Fascism was in the 1930s, if we're talking about the economic traits of Fascism. Of course the ideological leadership of the country was most progressive. There were ideological supporters of Fascism as well, but they weren't in power.

As for 1984, well, it's nice to see that you've at least reached 9th grade(1984 as well as Animal Farm tend to be on the 9th or 10th grade reading list). However, it must be pointed out that 1984 is a NOVEL, and has little bearing on the real world.

Why is not having "anonymous" comments such a problem? Unless your name is actually Fascistusa(surname: Weimargermany?), you ARE anonymous.

Please feel free to refute any and all "lies" you find here. I can assure you that CIA agents won't be sent to your house, and I live an ocean away.

 
At 21 January, 2007 03:10, Blogger muckers said...

I'd love to see the likes of Alex Jones stuck in a REAL dictatorship and police state.

He'd be lost for words.

They sure as hell wouldn't be able to make a killing off paranoia documentaries, that's for sure.

 
At 21 January, 2007 04:44, Blogger telescopemerc said...

Have you even READ 1984 Orwell??

Why no! You are the only person to read that book, ever! And you are the only one to ever understand it! No one else ever did, only you! You must be so special to have read that book and be the only one to have read that book! You must be so proud!

Have a happy hate week, BTW, you will be the only one celebrating.

 
At 21 January, 2007 05:24, Blogger MarkyX said...


Have you even READ 1984 Orwell??


From your comments, no, you didn't read it.

 
At 21 January, 2007 05:39, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Dictatorship - I thought it was Cheney and PNAC that ruled Bush...that aint a one man govt.

controlled propaganda - yes the REPs did a good job of that this year...that is why everyone wants them out of Iraq, cause they did such a great job of using propagnad ato make the war look like it was going well.

Suppression of the people - Ah yes, that is why freedom of expression is bigger now than at any point in history.

1984 Orwell - If you ACTUALLY read it, you would know that the USA is currently nothing like it.

What an idiot.

TAM

 
At 21 January, 2007 06:19, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now there is an unflattering picture!

Alex, far be it for me to defend Hillary, but when does she say she believes in socialism?

Actually, her best friend at the moment is George W. Bush. By continuing to drag on in Iraq, he increases the likelihood of a Democratic victory in 2008.

Btw, what ever happened to that poster "Democrat"? Did he discover his preferred party doesn't endorse his dopey conpsiracy theories?

 
At 21 January, 2007 06:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys, what do you think about this site?:
http://www.visibility911.com/dust.htm
i guess it needs some debunking, doesnt it?
There is an interview on there with your hero John Feal, so i thought you might be interested.

 
At 21 January, 2007 08:30, Blogger MarkyX said...

How does the EPA screwup prove that the WTC was bought down by explosives or no plane hit the pentagon?

Nothing.

 
At 21 January, 2007 08:37, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hillary Clinton photographed with a known JOOOOO!

 
At 21 January, 2007 09:05, Blogger James B. said...

Actually Animal Farm is Orwell's best work. 1984 is basically a ripoff of a series of anti-utopian novels such as Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" and Yegeniy Zamyatin's "We".

 
At 21 January, 2007 09:22, Blogger Pat said...

Not to mention that 1984 was not about the perils of a fascist state, but about a totalitarian state a la communism. Given that it was written in 1948, the peril of a fascist state was well-known.

On the dust issue, FX9, I'm willing to see what the Mt Sinai study shows. I do note that there seems to be some conflict. Most of the rescue workers wore respirators. It may have been that the government felt the air was safe for most in downtown New York, but not for those actually working on the pile.

That people working there have gotten sick or died is not proof positive that working on the pile caused their illness. This is absolutely something the medical community will be able to determine, though.

 
At 21 January, 2007 10:08, Blogger The Reverend Schmitt., FCD. said...

FascistUSA said:
Have you even READ 1984 Orwell??


The take home message I got from that is that an utterly totalitarian state results in utter bliss and stability for all citizens; their wills broken and remoulded so that they enjoy, even love the utter deprivation and squalor they live in. Even the most rebellious souls are trained to worship everything mankind should hate. It's a utopia.

Orwell was not a good writer.

 
At 21 January, 2007 11:25, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your ignorant insults DO NOT change the FACT America is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.

That nonsense "Surge" Lord Bush wants so badly that nearly 70% of the People DO NOT WANT???

The November elections where the Republinazis had their butts handed to them? JUST TO GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

America has Power concentrated in the hands of The Corporate FEW. The American People are NOT represented by our Government.

Our Mainstream "News" is GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. There is NO Journalistic Freedom. Zero.

 
At 21 January, 2007 11:55, Blogger Alex said...

ConsDemo:

Alex, far be it for me to defend Hillary, but when does she say she believes in socialism?

Crap. I just finished watching Hillary's "I'm in" video before I saw this article, and for some reason I thought that Pat had linked to it here. I now find that I was totaly mistaken, which means that my earlier comment probably didn't make any sense to anyone here. If you check the video on her website, it should make thing a lot clearer. No she doesn't say she backs socialism, but she does talk about social security and HillaryCare again :)

Reverend:
Orwell was not a good writer.

If you mean that 1984 wasn't realistic....take a look at North Korean society some time. They live in the ultimate Orwellian state, with no access to external information, plenty of government propaganda, and a populace in which the vast majority are either ignorant of just how controlled they are, or are complacent enough to pull the party line without causing trouble.

 
At 21 January, 2007 12:00, Anonymous Anonymous said...

America is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP...The November elections where the Republinazis had their butts handed to them? [sic] JUST TO GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

Whoa, I didn't know dictatorships allowed the governing party to be voted out of office.

That nonsense "Surge" Lord Bush wants so badly that nearly 70% of the People DO NOT WANT???

True, but Bush was elected to a four year term in 2004 (most assuredly not with my vote), meaning he is still commander in chief and is free to override the public will for two more years. This happens all the time in representative governments.

 
At 21 January, 2007 12:06, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No she doesn't say she backs socialism, but she does talk about social security and HillaryCare again :)

Fair enough, although I would actually argue socialism is much more popular than people admit. I even hear socialist arguments from self-proclaimed conservatives.

 
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At 21 January, 2007 12:57, Blogger default.xbe said...

plus WW4/5 between U.S., Russia and China

4 and 5? did i sleep through the apocalypse again?

 
At 21 January, 2007 14:18, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

FascistUSA,
Are you like a bot programmed to spam?
You writig reminds me of all the spam emails I ger for Viagra, knock-off Rolex's, etc etc etc,

 
At 21 January, 2007 14:18, Blogger Alex said...

Ofcourse it is. That's why socialism is so dangerous - because it's one of those insidious "common-sense" things that seems like a wonderful idea, unless you're actually watching people try to implement it. The worst part is that it's pretty much impossible to stop once it gets rolling. The US has managed to avoid it for the most part so far, but you've started down the road already, and if Hillary has her way, you'll be sprinting down it in no time.

 
At 21 January, 2007 15:21, Blogger shawn said...

Your ignorant insults DO NOT change the FACT America is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.

Fascism requires government ownership of corporations and general socialism. It also needs a leader who can do whatever he wants (see: Hugo Chavez).


That nonsense "Surge" Lord Bush wants so badly that nearly 70% of the People DO NOT WANT???

Luckily, the American public doesn't run military strategy.

The November elections where the Republinazis had their butts handed to them? JUST TO GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

That's a pretty stupid sounding word - Republinazis. It's also something only an idiot man-child would say.

Our Mainstream "News" is GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. There is NO Journalistic Freedom. Zero.

Do you even watch the news? Only someone insane could say it's government propaganda.

 
At 21 January, 2007 15:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

...these whiny "anti-fascists" above are probably all planehuggers, fake anti-war, gatekeepers, griffinites or in any other way idiotic hypocrites and/or 9/11 thruthlings.

The U.S. will get what they deserve in time: a takeover by EURASIA, because truthlings and flagwavers believe in cartoons and deny exotic weaponry.

HEIL, CHINA. HEIL 9/11 TRUTHLING.
HEIL URANTIA!
HEIL HERR GRIFFIN! ; )

I hope the new occupators will not get rid of my favourite TV Channels :)

 
At 21 January, 2007 16:24, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 21 January, 2007 17:00, Anonymous Anonymous said...

okay, Ewing, I took a look. The picture of honest to god crap is a bit much, but I agree with the rest. Is that picture of imbecile Alex Jones speaking in front a "Hillary" placard real?

 
At 21 January, 2007 17:30, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex, you will like this Op-Ed piece.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1995096,00.html

 
At 21 January, 2007 18:59, Blogger Alex said...

A takeover by Eurasia? What would you call the result? Eurousasia? But no...they're taking Canada and Mexico too, right? Well that rules out Euronorthameriasia. How 'bout Eurocanamexiameriasia?

 
At 21 January, 2007 19:00, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

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At 21 January, 2007 19:00, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...


Your ignorant insults DO NOT change the FACT America is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP.


I wasnt being insulting, but I could be if you ask impolitely.


That nonsense "Surge" Lord Bush wants so badly that nearly 70% of the People DO NOT WANT???


as has been mentioned here, when you elect a govt, and a leader, you do not do so to them require a referendum on every issue that comes up. What you want is a commune like utopia...get real.


The November elections where the Republinazis had their butts handed to them? JUST TO GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE!


yes they did have their asses handed to them...that is DEMOCRACY...not FASCISM.


America has Power concentrated in the hands of The Corporate FEW. The American People are NOT represented by our Government.


Opinion with no basis in reality.


Our Mainstream "News" is GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. There is NO Journalistic Freedom. Zero.


Opinion with no basis in reality.

TAM:)

 
At 21 January, 2007 19:13, Blogger Alex said...

Thanks for that Cons. I'm decidedly NOT "left", but that man's article rang 100% true for me. Were I to sit and write my thoughts about the conduct of the left and right over the last two decades, it would look pretty much exactly like that. It's was truly disgusting to see the left pull a 180 degree reversals in their opinions of Saddam, just because the right also changed their opinion of him. Likewise, it was appalling to see right wing politicians defending Saddam, and then finally coming out against him but only because he threatened the US oil supply. The article really illustrates the hypocrisy and the conceit and self-centerdness that is present on both sides of the political spectrum.

 
At 21 January, 2007 20:16, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ConsDemo wrote: "Whoa, I didn't know dictatorships allowed the governing party to be voted out of office."

Ahh, see... Much like the demolition of the WTC towers was a new form of demolition (that doesn't look like a demolition at all) invented by PNAC, so is this a new form of fascist dictatorship (that doesn't look like a fascist dictatorship at all).

They're sneaky, I tells ya!

 

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