Friday, February 02, 2007

But Don't Accuse Them of Being Anti-Semites...

The 9/11 deniers constantly express outrage whenever we compare them to anti-Semites or Holocaust deniers. Nothing could be further from the truth, they insist. Well if this is so, then why do they constantly use them as sources for their arguments? I missed this when I first posted on Adri Mehra's latest editorial in the University of Minnesota's student newspaper, but some of the commenters, and a letter writer caught it:

Bad sourcing Whatever shreds of credibility Adri Mehra might have possessed vanished in his last article, in which he cited David Irving's Action Report Web site, seemingly in good faith. Irving is a renowned racist and is classified as a Holocaust denier by 11 countries and by countless organizations and academics. How can Mehra invoke Irving's name in good conscience? I think he owes the Daily and its readers an explanation for this unprecedented and offensive choice of sources.

Anders Imboden

University undergraduate

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18 Comments:

At 02 February, 2007 19:49, Blogger shawn said...

David Irving is actually one I feel sad for. He's (or was) an excellent archivist and allowed his desire for the green get in the way of writing unbiased history.

 
At 02 February, 2007 20:24, Blogger ConsDemo said...

How can Mehra invoke Irving's name in good conscience?

Easy, he has no conscience.

 
At 02 February, 2007 21:57, Blogger Simon Lazarus said...

A leftwing bonehead using a racist and anti-Semite as a source! Will wonders never cease?

Next you will have me believe that a former President of the United States who served one disastrous term and was defeated by Ronald Reagan in 1980 is also a Jew hater and racist bigot who routinely used the word "n____r" when he served as Governor of Georgia.

The left sure seems to roll around in the mud with the worst kind of haters.

 
At 02 February, 2007 23:01, Blogger Unknown said...

While I agree that the troothers are pretty stupid for aligning themselves with holocaust deniers and Anti-Semites I wouldn't say this is a entirely left phenomenon. Lets not make this left/right. Republicans shit stinks to.

 
At 02 February, 2007 23:16, Blogger Alex said...

The political spectrum is a circle more than a line. The far-left and the far-right are both quite anti-semitic.

 
At 03 February, 2007 00:44, Blogger Investigate 9/11 said...

I guess the "Truth Movement" constantly calling any debunker a "Zionsit spy" or a "neo-con" is ok, but calling them "Anti-Semites" is just going too far.

 
At 03 February, 2007 02:17, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

T...t...they filed charges? Those bastards!

Talk about a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

 
At 03 February, 2007 05:59, Blogger ConsDemo said...

who's the real nazi here?

Wow, charging someone with a crime makes one a Nazi? Hey 911coverup, if someone shoots you, would you call the police Nazis for arresting them?

 
At 03 February, 2007 08:04, Blogger shawn said...

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At 03 February, 2007 08:05, Blogger shawn said...

Jeez people complain when they don't file charges, and now complain when they do.

And I love how people think "terrorist" and such are just scare words. Yup, there's no terrorists just go to bed and don't worry your little head about it.

911coverup - done any posts about Hugo Chavez actually becoming a dictator?

 
At 03 February, 2007 08:24, Blogger Simon Lazarus said...

Can't you idiots see that they're using the terms, "illegal aliens", "noncitizens", "terrorists" as a smokescreen to fool the congress in order for the bush administration to build immunity toward dictorial powers?

Another paranoid asshole.

Get out of here so you attend your Nazi Youth meeting.

 
At 03 February, 2007 10:08, Blogger ConsDemo said...

coverup, just because you think it is unfair doesn't make it so. Real Nazis were tried under military tribunals in WWII.

Now for people who live in the real world (as opposed to conspiratoids), military tribunals have flaws but given the nature of the crimes, I think they can be justified.

Simon, if we run all the twoofers off, we'd be denied comic relief.

 
At 03 February, 2007 12:09, Blogger Manny said...

Can't you idiots see that they're using the terms, "illegal aliens", "noncitizens", "terrorists" as a smokescreen to fool the congress in order for the bush administration to build immunity toward dictorial powers?

What I can see is a lying terrorist supporter desparately trying to protect his confederates.

 
At 03 February, 2007 17:55, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

BUSH Administration???

Oh, you mean the lame duck and his cronies that have virtually no power now, and will be gone in 2 years...

what about em?

TAM

 
At 03 February, 2007 19:36, Blogger Simon Lazarus said...

Simon, if we run all the twoofers off, we'd be denied comic relief.

I agree, but too many of them are also sick, demented, twisted, and haters of the worst sort.

I went on a 9/11 forum and posted one innocent post, questioning their whole belief in 9/11 being an "inside job." You should see the invective and hatred I got before someone demanded I be kicked off. And then I was.

The left is getting positively frightening.

 
At 04 February, 2007 01:33, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

With the greatest respect, Simon (you've been here longer than I have, after all) I don't appreciate you using "the left" as a synonym for "9/11 deniers", as if the two are completely interchangeable. There are, after all, a lot of people on this site (self included) who would place themselves on the left of the political spectrum.

It can't have escaped your notice that 9/11 conspiracy theories have practically no support within the Democratic party, nor the media - everyone from Rolling Stone through CounterPunch to Daily Kos have either trashed or formally disassociated themselves from these theories, and it was CNN who first brought the story of the deniers anti-Semitism up in the mainstream media. Just because a lot of conspiracy theorists are leftists doesn't mean all leftists are conspiracy theorists.

 
At 04 February, 2007 06:38, Blogger shawn said...

Just because a lot of conspiracy theorists are leftists doesn't mean all leftists are conspiracy theorists.

I concur, it's kind of like most terrorists are Muslims but most Muslims aren't terrorists.

It's all about extremism. I may disagree with several ideas of both Left and Right, but the people who aren't at the far ends are usually fine, sane folks.

 
At 04 February, 2007 10:21, Blogger Alex said...

It just amazes me that Kos has disassociated himself from the deniers. The guy is so far left that he's almost far right :) I figured he'd be all over the conspiracy shit. Maybe he believes in it, but won't discuss it because he knows it's bad for business.

 

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