Dahlia S. Wasfi, Anti-Zionist Crusader
Or, it just wouldn't be a Troofer Conference without the requisite Jew-bashing conspiracy theory:
It takes her awhile to warm to her subject, but it's clear that the crowd loves it once she gets to the Zionist stuff (about 6:25 into the video). Note that she repeats some of the sillier tropes of the anti-Israel crowd, like the BS about "the Nile to the Euphrates" phrase appearing on the wall of the Knesset. This is a persistent myth, even mentioned in the Wikipedia Entry on the Flag of Israel.
Persistent critic of Israel and Zionism Israel Shahak is equally explicit. In his The Zionist Plan for the Middle East he states
A good example is the very persistent belief in the non-existent writing on the wall of the Knesset of the Biblical verse about the Nile and the Euphrates. Another example is the persistent, and completely false declarations, which were made by some of the most important Arab leaders, that the two blue stripes of the Israeli flag symbolize the Nile and the Euphrates, while in fact they are taken from the stripes of the Jewish praying shawl (Talit).
In Part II, she ignores the actual history to tell us that Israel "invaded" the Sinai and the Golan Heights, conveniently omitting for the sake of her narrative that the Egyptians had massed 1,000 tanks and 100,000 soldiers on the border of Israel, in preparation for their own invasion, or that the Golan Heights were used by Syria to bombard Israeli settlements.
Labels: Dahlia Wasfi, Jew-bashing, Zionists
posted by Pat @ 10:34 AM
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66 Comments:
I met a troofer in jail. The CO's were being pricks...again, and this guy I was talking to brought up a Michael Moore flick where a guy apparently applies for a security guard job but he's too smart.
It morphed into this guy asking me if I'd seen Zeitgeist.
I said no, even though I had. I wanted to hear what the loon had to say.
He said the film really made you think. He talked about the 911 Commission Report mentioning nothing of WTC7. Gold under the towers. Something about connecting flights being delayed. The demolition blasts you could see (squibs). The 45% angle cuts, how could they identify the bodies at the Pentagon if everything evaporated, the gas station video cameras whisked away...
Just a boatload of stupid.
But I felt sorry for the guy so I refrained from making fun of him.
He could have been out of jail and on probation for 2 years. But he likes his drugs. So he was going to finish out his 4 month sentence so he good do his drugs and not worry about the piss tests.
Soooooooooooooooooo Pat... where did she bash Jews? Didn't she address criticism of Israel and Zionism as not being harsh of Judaism?
You know she's half Jewish right?
And she's 100% stupid. When I hear somebody talking about the Zionist Apartheid State of Israel, and repeating lies about the Knesset, talking about the occupation of Palestine, etc., I recognize the good old-fashioned Jew-bashing.
Troy, sounds like the guy in jail watched one of the earlier Loose Change versions.
Um, Israel has pushed Palestinians aside, or haven't you heard of the settlements that everyone hates? She graduated from the University of PA, an ivy league school. Somehow I bet she's 1000x smarter than you.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me where she bashed Jews, of which she is one.
The conspiratard wrote, "...Um, Israel has pushed Palestinians aside, or haven't you heard of the settlements that everyone hates? She graduated from the University of PA, an ivy league school. Somehow I bet she's 1000x smarter than you."
Yeah, and George Walker Bush (village idiot, Midland Texas) is a graduate of Andover, Yale and Harvard.
So what was your point again, Einstein?
%^)
Yea, except she graduated as a medical doctor. Can Dubya say the same? No? Then stfu.
Shyam Sunder has a PhD in structural engineering. I bet he's a lot smarter than Richard Gage.
The conspiratard wrote, "...Yea, except she graduated as a medical doctor. Can Dubya say the same? No? Then stfu."
Logic is not your strong suit, is it shit-for-brains?
An Ivy League graduate is an Ivy League graduate, regardless of the course of study.
Moreover, a degree from an Ivy League school is not proof of an individuals sanity or competence.
Try again, fucktard.
I'd really be curious to know why she's no longer practicing as a doctor. Could be innocent enough, but I'd like to know.
She was right about one thing - criticism of apartheid South Africa was not anti-Dutch.
AAAhhhhh dduuuhhhhhh.
Patrick wrote, "...I'd really be curious to know why she's no longer practicing as a doctor. Could be innocent enough, but I'd like to know."
Physicians for Social Responsibility, Los Angeles writes, "...Dr. Dahlia Wasfi put her medical career on hold after the U.S. invasion of her father’s homeland, Iraq, and is now a speaker and activist for Global Exchange."
Source: Physicians for Social Responsibility, Los Angeles: Medical Consequences of the War in Iraq.
And her attitude towards Israel has exactly what to do with 9/11?
She makes a comment that I happen to share, that American interests are not synonymous with those of Israel. So I went an watched other part 3 of her talk (Pat posted parts 1 and 2 of 5). However, she goes overboard making all sorts of dubious claims, such as Israel is bumping off academics in Iraq (and in the process, claims the "courageous" Dick Gage is analogous to those dead Iraqi academics, which is where I stopped listening). I'm not fan of Israel, but I wouldn't bring her to help make an argument for change in US policy towards Israel. I will say she fuckable but way to smug.
"Anonymous said...
Yea, except she graduated as a medical doctor. Can Dubya say the same? No? Then stfu."
Yeah, but President Bush could fly a jet fighter.
And run a baseball team.
And run a state.
And become President of the USA.
So fuck you.
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"Yeah, but President Bush could fly a jet fighter."
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AWESOME!!
And do you know what made him quit? His drug use. He got cold feet and experienced difficulty flying. Of course, you'll find none of this in the disinformation propaganda trail left for campaign purposes. You don't have a clue about W's life and the shit he pulled, and of his father, grandfather, and great grandfather, for that matter.
Thanks for making my day, with your naive, childish, yet pathetically zealous belief system.
Post some more of these chestnuts. I can't wait.
Oh and Troy: shut up.
To say Israel isn't approaching apartheid state is willfully ignoring the facts on the ground.(no less true for being unpalatable)
Similarly, to say the zionists have a head-grip on US foreign policy in the Middle East also willfully ignores the facts; that is, the power relation between the US and Israel.
Which part of 'client-state' does this woman (and many others) not understand?
I find this 'Israel Lobby' stuff tiresome and counter-productive. It is also, of course, a polite form of anti-semitism, or soon turns out that way.
'Don't like US imperialism in the ME, blame the Jews -sorry, the Zionists!'
If my opening remark seems to some to be at odds with my general sentiment, then hey, I can only point to the difference between 'facts on the ground' and conspiracy theory and supposition. This woman's speech is a curious, unconvincing mixture of both.
Why mince words? There are two things I hate: anti-semitism and the international Jewry.
Shit-for-brains wrote, "...Why mince words? There are two things I hate: anti-semitism and the international Jewry."
Does the word doublethink mean anything to you, Einstein?
"...What a maroon" -- Bugs Bunny.
I hate Jews, and I hate anti-semitism.
What the hell is so wrong about that? It's the moral thing to say!
Cons, of course, you get it. It's not that nobody can criticize Israel or American foreign policy towards the Jewish State. It's that Wasfi *lies* in order to make her case. Plus at this point that anybody who uses the word "Zionist" is a nitwit, anyway.
Cisbio, I am familiar with the use of apartheid to describe Israel. But how would you characterize the Arab world's treatment of their Jewish and Christian residents as compared to Israel's treatment of their religious minorities? As far as I can see, Muslims, Christians and Jews alike all have far more rights in Israel than they do in any of the neighboring countries. I agree with much of what you have to say, though, and I'm far from wedded to Israel, by any means. My point in criticizing Wasfi reflects both my surprise at her somewhat naked conspiracy theorizing and the fact that she is apparently respected in the Peace Movement despite that.
Anonymous the Insane wrote, "...I hate Jews, and I hate anti-semitism...What the hell is so wrong about that? It's the moral thing to say!"
It's fairly simple genius: "...doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two mutually contradictory beliefs."
Source: Wikipedia: Doublethink.
That said, genius, Orwell would be proud of you.
Any more logical fallacies for us, Einstein?
Oh you winer!
Anyways, chew on this, fuckers.
'Zionist Apartheid State of Israel'.
This tells you all you need to know. Perhaps someone can tell me the difference between a country which has an Arab population which constitutes 20% of the total (and which has the same political and legal status as the Jewish population), and all those Arab states that expelled their Jewish communities from the late 1940s onwards.
And if we are talking about Apartheid, how about the situation that exists in Saudi, Iran, Yemen etc where possession of a vagina makes you a second class citizen?
And if we're talking about racism, let's ask ourselves how many hundreds of thousands of black Africans (many of them Muslim) have been massacred or displaced by the Sudanese government?
But how would you characterize the Arab world's treatment of their Jewish and Christian residents as compared to Israel's treatment of their religious minorities?
Pat,
Well, I acknowledge this basic fact about the Arab world -there's nothing quite so maniacally anti-semitic as Wahabism, as doubtless you know.
Two wrongs don't make a right. I venture that Arabs aren't intrinsically anti-semite; a 150 years of Western imperialism has inculcated such feeling -ramping up dramatically since 1947, so that it now appears intrinsic.
Likewise Israelis. It's such a damn shame, coz' there are so many cool Israelis who yearn to live in peace with their neighbours. A bitter struggle for resources has precluded that option, it seems.
In fact, Israel's current belligerence toward Iran and, previously, Iraq is not intrinsic to Zionism but a function of the IDF's 'Prime Directive', which is to maintain military superiority in relation to all Islamic states no matter the cost. (not surprising given Israel's short history) A nice distinction, perhaps, but there it is.
Israel's nuclear capability gives it the option of wiping out the Arab world in its entirety. However, just a couple of nuclear warheads on the other side, alters the balance completely, given Israel's comparative size. It matters not how many tanks or fighters Israel has, a single warhead will trump that, hence Israel's no-nonsense approach in 1987 to Iraq and latterly to Syria and currently Iran.
In fact, Israel and Iran were entering a period of wary rapprochement during the 1990's. This all changed when Iran began enrichment and Israel's Prime Directive kicked-in. Anyway, I've waffled right off the point.
Muslims, Christians and Jews alike all have far more rights in Israel than they do in any of the neighboring countries.
On paper, Arabs have rights in Israel; in reality the picture ain't so simple. Meanwhile, Arab neighbours collude in Israel's marginalisation of Palestinians, especially Jordan and Egypt. Meanwhile, ancient Jewish communities throughout the Arab world have become untenable due to mutual state belligerence arising from the advent of US hegemonic power. Meanwhile, Iran's supposed maniacal anti-semitism is belied by the continued presence of an ancient Jewish community - whose rights, I dare say, aren't quite what they appear on paper.
But here's the crux: to point to Arab treatment of Jews communities etc. kinda misses the point. The US electorate has a direct say in Israeli policy - far more than the reverse- especially regarding settlements, which are, essentially, funded by US taxpayers. If it was minded so to do, the US electorate could demand the cessation of settlements and the construction of an apartheid state. Instead, it is directed to endorse the project and the historic Arab response is routinely cited as justification or to nullify dissent.
That is why the ongoing apartheid is of particular concern to US voters - or should be.
The US electorate has a direct say in Israeli policy - far more than the reverse- especially regarding settlements, which are, essentially, funded by US taxpayers. If it was minded so to do, the US electorate could demand the cessation of settlements and the construction of an apartheid state.
I think Israel’s critics make a mistake when they use the word “apartheid” since it is often a deliberate attempt to compare Israel to South Africa. It is true both states tried to separate people by race or ethnicity but both did so far different reasons. In South Africa the purpose was strictly racial superiority, that may also be some of the motivation in Israel but a lot of it is a justifiable fear of suicide bombers. Loaded language can distract from the core issue, which is Israeli expansionism.
I am actually not certain the US could stop settlement activity with an aid cut off but it should certainly try. Israel might say they will go it alone, and if so, so be it. It is clear we should no longer be complicit in Israel’s settlement policy. I think Obama is trying to move in this direction however tepidly although he has yet do anything to really curb the aid flow. Israel still has tremendous support in the US Congress and no, I don’t think is only or even mostly because of Jewish interests, since fundamentalist Christians are as dogmatically pro-Israel as Jewish groups, if not more so. Now that the US military has weighed in the long overdue view that American lives are put at risk by our unquestioned backing of Israel, maybe that will start to change. The pro-Israel side is still much better organized, so I'm not sure how this will play out.
"You don't have a clue about W's life and the shit he pulled, and of his father, grandfather, and great grandfather, for that matter."
You're not fit to lick George Bush's five thousand dollar cowboy boots, frenzied nobody. Why don't you go & stand on a street corner & scream about the Bush crime family & the New world order.
♫ Throw the Jew down the well... ♪♪
♬ So my country can be free ♯
♫ So my country can be free! ♫
Oh, I'm sorry, you said something about Bush, and NWO, right? I just like to sing! =)
♫ Throw the Jew down the well... ♪♪
♬ So my country can be free ♯
♫ So my country can be free! ♫
Anonymous scribbles, "...Oh you winer!...Anyways, chew on this, fuckers."
Yo Einstein, here's another "anti-Zionist crusader" who I'm sure you'll love: Dr. David Duke--Israeli Terrorism Against America.
♫ Throw the Jew Down the Well!! ♬
Sorry, my bad.
Israeli Terrorism Against America.
Anonymous wrote, "...♫ Throw the Jew Down the Well!! ♬"
That was about as funny as a fart in a spacesuit, genius.
"Anonymous said...
"Yeah, but President Bush could fly a jet fighter."
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AWESOME!!"
So where's your pilot's licensce, fucktard?
Just like I thought, too stupid to
pass.
Ever flown an F-102?
Thought not.
"And do you know what made him quit?"
When did he "quit", fucktard?
"He got cold feet and experienced difficulty flying."
Yet he can still fly. Why is that, fucktard?
"Of course, you'll find none of this in the disinformation propaganda trail left for campaign purposes. You don't have a clue about W's life and the shit he pulled, and of his father, grandfather, and great grandfather, for that matter."
So a parnoid fucktard twoooofer™ doesn't like the Bush family.
Quelle suprise!!!!!
I guess you'll pull out the old chestnut about "financing the Nazis" or some other craptacular insanity, right fucktard?
Oh, and my belief system?
Grounded in reality.
Your belief system, fucktard?
Not so much.
"And if we are talking about Apartheid, how about the situation that exists in Saudi, Iran, Yemen etc where possession of a vagina makes you a second class citizen?"
And the possession of a Bible can get you beheaded?
"I think Israel’s critics make a mistake when they use the word “apartheid” since it is often a deliberate attempt to compare Israel to South Africa."
Not if you like your anti-semitism straight.
The US electorate has a direct say in Israeli policy. If it was minded so to do, the US electorate could demand the cessation of settlements
Wrong, wrong, wrong. One, 95% of Americans don't give a shit what Israel does or doesn't do. Two, most of the remaining 5% supports Israel. Three, Israel has been staunchly supported by Democratic and Republican governments over the years, so making it an election issue isn't going to change that. Four, there's no ballot in this country that has a referendum on Israeli settlements.
America's national relationship with Israel transcends politics. Whether that's good or bad is debatable, but that's the game.
"The US electorate has a direct say in Israeli policy. If it was minded so to do, the US electorate could demand the cessation of settlements"
In the long history of spectacularly stupid statements posted by the conspiratoids, anti-semites and just all 'round short bus riders, that there has to stand out like the Eifel Tower.
Damn.
Just...damn.
Triterope: 95% of Americans don't give a shit what Israel does or doesn't do.
I suggest you re-read the quote you pulled from my comment.
Israel has been staunchly supported by Democratic and Republican governments over the years, so making it an election issue isn't going to change that.
I appreciate that my theory is never going to be tested.
I should have written 'policy on Israel' rather than 'israeli policy', to make myself clearer-not that that would have persuaded someone like Lazarus Long to summon an argument, rather than just scream 'anti-semite!' at anything he disagrees with.
I may be mistaken, but screaming 'anti-semite' ain't going to convince me -just so you know.
Yes it will, you fucking anti-semite!
Since you're an anti-semite, you must be a troofer too, btw.
Fuck the Jews, btw.
"I speak to you today on behalf of relatives on my mother’s side — Ashkenazi Jews who fled their homeland of Austria during Hitler’s Anschluss. It is for them that we say 'Never again.' I speak to you today on behalf of relatives on my father’s side, who are not living, but dying, under the occupation of this administration’s deadly foray in Iraq. From the lack of security to the lack of basic supplies to the lack of electricity to the lack of potable water to the lack of jobs to the lack of reconstruction to the lack of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, they are much worse off now than before we invaded. 'Never again' should apply to them, too."
-Dahlia Wasfi
Coming along quite nicely on genocide and ethnic cleansing there SackBollocks!! Soon you'll allow yourself to learn about the destruction of the entire indigenous population of the Western hemisphere by scumbag Europeans and assorted White Supremacists.The same White Supremacists who still run the United States.Well,OK,a few tribes survived.I'd say it's totally apt to have the lowlife crack dealer Ronald Reagan on the $50 bill.After all,he was involved in genocidal actions against American Indians like all the others.
"Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...
Coming along quite nicely on genocide and ethnic cleansing there SackBollocks!! Soon you'll allow yourself to learn about the destruction of the entire indigenous population of the Western hemisphere by scumbag Europeans and assorted White Supremacists.The same White Supremacists who still run the United States.Well,OK,a few tribes survived.I'd say it's totally apt to have the lowlife crack dealer Ronald Reagan on the $50 bill.After all,he was involved in genocidal actions against American Indians like all the others."
Could someone translate this mishmash of unconnected words into Sane?
Thanks in advance.
Poor,poor pitiful PornBoy,his Ronald Reagan poster has shot spots all over it.Oof!
"Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...
Poor,poor pitiful PornBoy,his Ronald Reagan poster has shot spots all over it.Oof!"
Ummmm......
Does anyone know what assholio is talking about?
Seemingly he's talking to one of the voices in his head, this "PornBoy" person.
It's almost as if his needle sized dick is causing some issues.
(notice the compensarory self labling as "the Cyber-Hero")
Is that it, assholio?
C'mon, dude, you can share.
We'll understand.
I appreciate that my theory is never going to be tested.
I may be mistaken, but screaming 'anti-semite' ain't going to convince me -just so you know.
So you already know your argument can't be proven, and you already know how people are going to respond to it. Why do you bother posting at all?
I'm talking about your sick hero, Ronbo,you jackoff.There's pitiful and then there is PornBoy the Lunatic and Unstable Right Winger.You know,when SackSchmuck christens you it's an honor,not "compensrary self labling",or whatever the fuck you were trying to type.An honor I accept graciously.In the words of the ludicrous moron Reagan:"...we did not,repeat,did not,trade arms for hostages,and I'll be back on TV next week to 'fess up that I'm lying right now." Or in the words of Bob Arum: "Yesterday I was lying,today I'm leveling with you".
" Arhoolie,Sackdoily's Cyber-Hero said...
I'm talking about your sick hero, Ronbo,you jackoff.There's pitiful and then there is PornBoy the Lunatic and Unstable Right Winger.You know,when SackSchmuck christens you it's an honor,not "compensrary self labling",or whatever the fuck you were trying to type.An honor I accept graciously.In the words of the ludicrous moron Reagan:"...we did not,repeat,did not,trade arms for hostages,and I'll be back on TV next week to 'fess up that I'm lying right now." Or in the words of Bob Arum: "Yesterday I was lying,today I'm leveling with you"."
Um, what?
Is it me, or is this pitiful dog crap losing even what little anchor to reality it used to display?
Is it me, or is this pitiful dog crap losing even what little anchor to reality it used to display?
No, I've noticed it too. Assholie's rants used to be merely irritating, now they just make me wonder "who or what was that in response to?"
He used to be somewhat coherent and somewhat targeted; not anymore. I feel like I'm witnessing a man's descent into madness.
Arhoolie is getting better and better, imho. The jeers about mental health are merely the usual desperate debunker cult attempt at a rejoinder.
Keep destroying 'em Arhoolie, you have my vote!
"Anonymous said...
Arhoolie is getting better and better, imho."
Um, sure. If some kind of weird vitriolic insane anger is "better".
"The jeers about mental health are merely the usual desperate debunker cult attempt at a rejoinder."
How do you "rejoin" to complete incoherance, logical lacunae you could drive a tank through, complete non-sequitors, and all round ignorance?
"Keep destroying 'em Arhoolie,"
You just keep on telling yourself that.
"you have my vote!"
He's got mine too.
For Asshelmet Of The Year.
You almost had me convinced you were smart, brandishing various multisyllabic words, including the compulsory Latin eye-catchers, such as "lacunae", plural of "lacuna" ..... until you spelled non sequitur as "non-sequitor".
Dang.
You almost had it. Almost. But... classless simpletons always come up short trying to fake intelligence, and you are no exception.
"Anonymous said...
You almost had me convinced you were smart, brandishing various multisyllabic words, including the compulsory Latin eye-catchers, such as "lacunae", plural of "lacuna" ..... until you spelled non sequitur as "non-sequitor"."
OOOOOO, I mispelled a word.
You're a retarded marmoset.
I win.
Arhoolie is getting better and better, imho.
That's great. You two can be roommates in the mental health ward.
We already are. =)
Anonymous whimpers, "...We already are. =)"
No doubt, it's internet day at St. Elizabeth's Hospital again.
Yeah man, we've got a whole army of nutters over here, and our psychiatrists told us we'd feel sane compared to the bunkturds that dwell on this blog, so it would be good recreation. Especially you, GB, the psychiatrists here are making entire case studies of your absurd clownesque denialist antics.
They'd like to invite a few of you to come over for in-depth analysis. They've never seen such an outrageous case of shared psychotic disorder.
Anonymous whines, "...Yeah man, we've got a whole army of nutters over here, and our psychiatrists told us we'd feel sane compared to the bunkturds that dwell on this blog, so it would be good recreation. Especially you, GB, the psychiatrists here are making entire case studies of your absurd clownesque denialist [SIC] antics."
Obviously, you have a rich and thoroughgoing fantasy life, Anonymous. Add hallucinations to the mix and it's party time. Right 9/11 denier?
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/denialist
No reason for "[sic]", unless you enjoy prancing around your stupidity.
First,a shrill whine from the maniacal jaibird Troy (those mean minders!!)and then a typical spineless moan from PornBoy (oh those vitriolic radicals!).PornBoy really needs to get out of the rooming house once in a while and see the trees.
"Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...
First,a shrill whine from the maniacal jaibird Troy (those mean minders!!)and then a typical spineless moan from PornBoy (oh those vitriolic radicals!).PornBoy really needs to get out of the rooming house once in a while and see the trees."
Uh oh, the voices are back.
Anonymous scribbles, "...No reason for '[sic]', unless you enjoy prancing around your stupidity."
That's rich, Anonymous. And especially so when one considers that I consistently rip your argument's to shreds.
she is not half jewish. according to jewish law, she is jewish, as her mother is jewish
however, according to islamic law, because her father is a muslim, she is a muslim.
in other words...she is schizo.
she is a doctor, not an expert in middle east studies or international law
like most rabid jew haters, like finkelstein, chomsky and baltzar, she recreates history to fit her world view.
yes, one can indeed criticize israeli policies and not be a jew hater....but only if one is balanced in that attack and takes history into consideration.
Hey "BakedAfter a 40 and a Blunt",thanks for the heads up! It's all very clear after the very succint permission slip you've deigned to offer us mere mortals!Now your mission is to figure out just what the hell went wrong with PornBoy.
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