Monday, March 01, 2010

I'm Sure Kids Would Rather Have a WII

Good lord, here's Joseph Princiotta.



How sad is it that this guy wants to excuse the people who actually killed his cousin (I checked, and Vincent Princiotta is listed as a victim of the 9-11 attacks). Note as well that he lies about how Sal Princiotta died; he did not die from "illness from 9-11"; although he was apparently experiencing respiratory problems after working on the pile, he was actually murdered:
The man suspected of murdering a former city firefighter in Arizona had befriended the 9/11 hero months earlier and scouted his collection of rare coins and Elvis Presley memorabilia, relatives and authorities said yesterday.

Jeffery Lynn Bigham, 56, shot himself Friday after cops tracked him to San Bernardino, Calif. - more than two weeks after he fatally shot Sal Princiotta while ransacking the retired firefighter's Scottsdale home, police said.


Incidentally, although several of the accounts of Sal Princiotta mention that he lost an uncle in the 9-11 attacks, it was not Vincent Princiotta:

He developed a troubling cough and struggled with the pain of losing so many firefighter friends and his uncle, acclaimed Deputy Fire Chief Ray Downey, in the terror attacks.


So how come Joseph doesn't mention this third family member who died on 9-11? I'm smelling BS all over this story.

Hat Tip: Angry Soba (in the comments).

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82 Comments:

At 01 March, 2010 13:23, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Yea,angrysubpar really nailed it,Paddy!.Especially his argument that Oklahoma City was perpetrated by a lone nut,"sort of" (his words!!). He further burnishes his credentials with the assertion that the Reichstag fire was done by a lone nut.Ah,the Debunker Cult,there's no bottom to their swimming hole! What exactly is a "sort of lone nut" anyway,DogBoy? Sackie at the pub? Troy and his barnyard capers? New York,er anchored to his computer chair? Fill us in knuckleheads.

 
At 01 March, 2010 13:26, Anonymous New Yorker said...

You're making progress in using the spacebar, I see. Maybe next year they'll let you into the 3rd grade!

 
At 01 March, 2010 14:24, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You're making use of the "space bar" too, you fat poofter. That is, a bar with lots of space for fat poofters, where you go to drink away your sorrows after another e-asswooping.

 
At 01 March, 2010 14:53, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
You're making use of the "space bar" too, you fat poofter. That is, a bar with lots of space for fat poofters, where you go to drink away your sorrows after another e-asswooping."

When did this happen?

Oh, the the thread where NYer kicked your sorry twoooofer™ ass?

Twoooofers™ must be delusory in every aspect of their lives.

Pitiful, just pitiful.

 
At 01 March, 2010 15:09, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

When did this happen?

Whenever did it not?

Oh, the the thread where NYer kicked your sorry twoooofer™ ass?

Twoooofers™ must be delusory in every aspect of their lives.


Bahahahahahahahahaha.

Pitiful, just pitiful.

I'm on your side. We're both fightin' the terrorists™. You think I am a terrorist™, and I think you are a terrorist™. I think torture on terrorists like you is okay. Let the waterboarding begin!

 
At 01 March, 2010 15:47, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"I'm on your side. We're both fightin' the terrorists™. You think I am a terrorist™, and I think you are a terrorist™. I think torture on terrorists like you is okay. Let the waterboarding begin!"

Well, that was one of the most incomprehensible statements ever posted here.

And considering some to the insane twooooftards who show up here, that is quite an achievement.

Now, go ahead and say you won the argument.

Really, you have my permission.

Then go take your meds and have a nice long nap.

 
At 01 March, 2010 15:58, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Well, that was one of the most incomprehensible statements ever posted here.

And considering some to the insane twooooftards who show up here, that is quite an achievement.

Now, go ahead and say you won the argument.

Really, you have my permission.

Then go take your meds and have a nice long nap.


Are you saying we're not on the same side? =(

 
At 01 March, 2010 16:17, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Are you saying we're not on the same side? =("

No.

Sorry, I can't align myself with insane people who deny reality.

 
At 01 March, 2010 16:46, Blogger Triterope said...

You're making use of the "space bar" too, you fat poofter. That is, a bar with lots of space for fat poofters, where you go to drink away your sorrows after another e-asswooping.

What are you, twelve?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:01, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

What are you, twelve?

Why must you resort to age discrimination? =(

Btw, is Glenn Maxey really that young?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:09, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Triterope writes, "...What are you, twelve?"

No, that would be his IQ.

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:20, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

"No, that would be his IQ."

What does that say about your IQ if you couldn't find fault with my equations but I could find fault with yours?

Do you have an IQ of 6?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:41, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn scribbles, "...What does that say about your IQ if you couldn't find fault with my equations but I could find fault with yours?"

On the contrary, I found fault with your work, Glenn. It's not my fault that you're too dishonest to acknowledge reality. Hell, you didn't annotate "your" work, and your "derivation" is flat out wrong.

But I digress.

Tell us, Glenn, why did you claim that your real name is "Max Bridges", while you excoriated me for using my nickname "GuitarBill"?

Why did you use a man named Craig Hawley's photograph in order to hide your identity after you created two bogus "Max Bridges" accounts on both FaceBook and blogspot.com?

Why did you create a website bearing the same name "Max Bridges" in order to hide your real identity, while you spread misinformation and stalk those who criticize your stupidity?

If you're so honest, Glenn, why did you create a "legend" in the exact manner of an intelligence operative, while you spread misinformation for ae911truth?

Freak.

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:41, Blogger NoIdentity said...

Christ you're still stuck on the equation thing?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:43, Blogger NoIdentity said...

Oooooh I get the saga of Glenn Maxey now. Kind of... maybe he's FSB.

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:47, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

If you're so honest, Glenn, why did you create a "legend" in the exact manner of an intelligence operative, while you spread misinformation for ae911truth?

Freak.


How very astute of you. If I am an intelligence operative, then why am I promoting anti-American nonsense? I'm lost. Can you help me out?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:50, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

On the contrary, I found fault with your work, Glenn. It's not my fault that you're too dishonest to acknowledge reality. Hell, you didn't annotate "your" work, and your "derivation" is flat out wrong.

But I digress.


I forgot to laugh at this, because, again, you fail to point out where the error is.

And your "annotations" my friend, were plagiarized from the same website you got your "challenge" from. What a sorry ass display of feigned competence. At least I don't exaggerate. I was able to do it with some effort, but at least I got it right. You plagiarized it and still got it wrong! Twat!

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn lies, "...And your "annotations" my friend, were plagiarized from the same website you got your "challenge" from."

Too bad you never proved that, liar.

And I did point out your mistakes--your lies to the contrary notwithstanding.

Now stop changing the subject, Glenn, and answer my questions.

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:58, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Now stop changing the subject, Glenn, and answer my questions.

Q1 : * women do have hair down below, one day you shall discover this
Q2 : * twoofers are not all muslim
Q3 : * I "stalk" you because you are such a good guitar player, Bill. What else can you do besides twiddling your fat little thumbs on that gay instrument?

 
At 01 March, 2010 17:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn prevaricates, "...How very astute of you. If I am an intelligence operative, then why am I promoting anti-American nonsense? I'm lost. Can you help me out?"

Typical Glenn Maxey--always twisting your words and resorting to straw man techniques.

I never accused you of being an intelligence operative, Glenn.

After all, you're too stupid and arrogant to be a real intelligence operative.

In fact, I directly accused you of spreading misinformation for ae911truth--you 'tard.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:03, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

I never accused you of being an intelligence operative, Glenn.

After all, you're too stupid and arrogant to be a real intelligence operative.

In fact, I directly accused you of spreading misinformation for ae911truth--you 'tard.


You completely lost me now. What misinformation would that be? Equations that you get wrong and I get right, and which you subsequently repetitively (and, rather comically) lie about?

But but but...Bill! Take a chill pill! I have no ill will!

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:07, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"What else can you do besides twiddling your fat little thumbs on that gay instrument?"

Are you confused about your gender role, child?

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:08, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Are you confused about your gender role, child?

:`(

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn prevaricates, "...You completely lost me now. What misinformation would that be? Equations that you get wrong and I get right, and which you subsequently repetitively (and, rather comically) lie about?"

Now Glenn, we both know that you're lying, and we both know that you're incompetent, not to mention insane.

So tell us Glenn, is this your real photo, or a photo of another victim in the long list of identities you've stolen in order to provide misdirection and cover for your nefarious activities, while you disseminate misinformation and propaganda for ae911truth?

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:14, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Now Glenn, we both know that you're lying, and we both know that you're incompetent, not to mention insane.

So tell us Glenn, is this your real photo, or a photo of another victim in the long list of identities you've stolen in order to provide misdirection and cover for your nefarious activities, while you disseminate misinformation and propaganda for ae911truth?


Bill, I will answer that question truthfully and completely if you explain to me how you got this link.

Scout's honor!

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:15, Anonymous Akmed Goatroper said...

Q2 : * twoofers are not all muslim

But all muslims are troofers!

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:21, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

But all muslims are troofers!

You got me there. Touché! Especially Al Qaeda themselves!

%-S

BWHAHAHAHA.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:21, Blogger angrysoba said...

He further burnishes his credentials with the assertion that the Reichstag fire was done by a lone nut.

Well, if you know otherwise maybe you can tell us.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn scribbles, "...Bill, I will answer that question truthfully and completely if you explain to me how you got this link."

You're giving yourself away again, Glenn.

Why do you care if you're not Glenn Maxey?

You know how I got that link, Glenn. Remember me, Glenn, I'm the guy who outed you before you took your ae911truth profile photograph down.

And if that is your picture, Glenn, why did you choose a picture that obscures your face in the shadows? Don't you have the strength of your alleged convictions where "9/11 truth" is concerned?

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:28, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

According to loons like angrysoba, everything is done by lone nuts. Even his own conception. Otherwise it would be a conspiracy to create the sorriest twat ever to slither the earth, and we all know that is beyond the realm of plausibilities in debunkaloonery.

Congrats, twat! You are the product of a lone nut!

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:32, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You're giving yourself away again, Glenn.

Why do you care if you're not Glenn Maxey?


Duh. Obviously I am Glenn. You say so. My handle says so. Duh!

You know how I got that link, Glenn. Remember me, Glenn, I'm the guy who outed you before you took your ae911truth profile photograph down.

No I don't.

And if that is your picture, Glenn, why did you choose a picture that obscures your face in the shadows? Don't you have the strength of your alleged convictions where "9/11 truth" is concerned?

Yes. It was weakness that propelled me to snap said picture. Weakness of my convictions. Even back then, I knew I would one day have this conversation, and at least I'd have this ace in the hole. The shadows.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:34, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn scribbles, "...According to loons like angrysoba, everything is done by lone nuts. Even his own conception. Otherwise it would be a conspiracy to create the sorriest twat ever to slither the earth, and we all know that is beyond the realm of plausibilities in debunkaloonery.

"Congrats, twat! You are the product of a lone nut!"


Another 100% fact-free non-answer, Glenn?

You've hit rock bottom and show signs of starting to dig, Glenn.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn scribbles, "...Yes. It was weakness that propelled me to snap said picture. Weakness of my convictions. Even back then, I knew I would one day have this conversation, and at least I'd have this ace in the hole. The shadows."

Another 100% fact-free non-answer, Glenn?

Somebody else is doing the driving for that boy.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:47, Blogger NoIdentity said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nSBWGlf3lo&feature=player_embedded#

Besides don't worry, Iran is no shrinking violet. They can handle a little state sponsored terrorism.

 
At 01 March, 2010 18:53, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

#1 Another 100% fact-free non-answer, Glenn?

You've hit rock bottom and show signs of starting to dig, Glenn.

(...)

#2 Another 100% fact-free non-answer, Glenn?

Somebody else is doing the driving for that boy.


You're such an eager beaver! Sharon Stone has nothing on you!

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:11, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You were never at ae911truth, Bill. You got that picture somewhere on JREF. You're a bullshitter like all your little echo chamber pen pals here.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:14, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Well Glenn, I answered your question truthfully. So when will you uphold your end of the bargain?

Glenn scribbles, "...Bill, I will answer that question truthfully and completely if you explain to me how you got this link."

Welching again, Glenn? But what's new, right?

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:17, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Welching again, Glenn? But what's new, right?

You haven't explained anything. You haven't got a single shred of evidence that I am Glenn Maxey. You lose. As usual. LOL!

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...You were never at ae911truth, Bill. You got that picture somewhere on JREF. You're a bullshitter like all your little echo chamber pen pals here."

Nope, sorry.

I found your ae911truth profile via Google, and when I clicked on the link and loaded the page, I simple did a "View"->"Page Source" and copied the HTML source to file.

Are you really that computer illiterate, Glenn?

But then again, I suppose that a technical writer doesn't really need good computer chops in order to survive. Right, Glenn?

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:26, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"but also in breaking the rules of physics in heating and weakening steel"

My good, you must be a GREAT engineer.

You fucking moron.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:26, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Oh is that so Bill. Then how did you find the direct link to my photo, when there is no such link in the HTML source? Hmmm?

Who is the stalker now?

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:28, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

If it's against the rules of phyics that heat weakens steel, how did ol' Bill Sherman make his neckties?

You fucking retard.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:29, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

But I'll make good on our deal: I chose that picture because I liked it. Period.

And... because I'm not Glenn Maxey, you fucking imbecile. ROFLMAO.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:31, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

If it's against the rules of phyics that heat weakens steel, how did ol' Bill Sherman make his neckties?

You fucking retard.


He hired that fat poofter New Yorker to sit on it & bend it. It worked damn near flawlessly.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:39, Blogger angrysoba said...

According to loons like angrysoba, everything is done by lone nuts. Even his own conception. Otherwise it would be a conspiracy to create the sorriest twat ever to slither the earth, and we all know that is beyond the realm of plausibilities in debunkaloonery.

Congrats, twat! You are the product of a lone nut!


Glenn, you could just admit you don't know.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:44, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn lies, "...Oh is that so Bill. Then how did you find the direct link to my photo, when there is no such link in the HTML source? Hmmm?

"Who is the stalker now?"


I already answered your question, Glenn. Remember, I found your profile before you scrubbed the photograph from the profile. Thus, I have your original profile's source.

Perhaps you should have thought about the consequences before you falsely claimed that your real name is "Max Bridges", while you chided me for using my nickname "GuitarBill" (a common and cheap "truther" tactic used to discredit their opponents)--you crazy, intellectually dishonest neo-Nazi.

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn Maxey lies, "...And... because I'm not Glenn Maxey, you fucking imbecile. ROFLMAO."

Sweet Jesus, Glenn, you just admitted to us that my accusation's are correct. Didn't you write the following:

"...Oh is that so Bill. Then how did you find the direct link to my photo, when there is no such link in the HTML source? Hmmm?"

Check and mate, Glenn.

Have nice night, Glenn.

%^)

 
At 01 March, 2010 19:58, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Check and mate, Glenn.

Have nice night, Glenn.

%^)


What will I do now that I am outed as Glenn Maxey.

=(

All I can do now is hope that this horror will all be over tomorrow. Will you have mercy on me Bill? I'm sorry =(

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:02, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"He hired that fat poofter New Yorker to sit on it & bend it. It worked damn near flawlessly."

Great answer, you fucking retarded marmoset.

Your social graces are on a par with your knowledge of engineering.

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:10, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Great answer, you fucking retarded marmoset.

Your social graces are on a par with your knowledge of engineering.


Hey! I'm the go-to-guy at the rotary! We sit and laugh, then take another sip of our expensive drinks, nibble away at some toast with caviar, then laugh some more, especially at the dumb stupid animals dying for our freedom. Such as your son! We throw (gold plated) darts at posters with troops!

High five!

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Lazarus Long writes, "...Great answer, you fucking retarded marmoset."

LL, please don't call Glenn a retarded marmoset.

After all, calling Glenn a retarded marmoset is an insult to retarded marmosets everywhere.

%^)

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:17, Blogger angrysoba said...

It shouldn't be shocking but it still is when a Truther lies about their own brother's death.

He can't plead ignorance either given that he's quoted in the newspaper saying he's glad the killer is dead.

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:18, Blogger nes718 said...

More twoof guys, so much ya just can't keep up!

Mr. Larry "Pull It" Silverstein...Did You Commit Insurance Fraud On 9/11?

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:18, Blogger angrysoba said...

Good work, Pat!

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:40, Anonymous New Yorker said...

You're making use of the "space bar" too, you fat poofter. That is, a bar with lots of space for fat poofters, where you go to drink away your sorrows after another e-asswooping.

Given the homophobic slurs you throw around, I'm guessing you weren't any more successful at scoring with dudes than you were at scoring with women, huh?

 
At 01 March, 2010 20:42, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

"Given the homophobic slurs you throw around, I'm guessing you weren't any more successful at scoring with dudes than you were at scoring with women, huh?"

Ouch! Why must you "hurt" me? LOL! Just give it up, you fat poofter, and come out of the closet. You know you want it. Debunking has made you horny. There is a darkroom waiting for you with other government sluts.

Don't you want to be loved? =)

 
At 01 March, 2010 22:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn Maxey scribbles, "...Hey! I'm the go-to-guy at the rotary! We sit and laugh, then take another sip of our expensive drinks, nibble away at some toast with caviar, then laugh some more, especially at the dumb stupid animals dying for our freedom. Such as your son! We throw (gold plated) darts at posters with troops!

"High five!"


Well said, Glenn--you anti-American, terrorist apologist, part-time Tijuana-donkey fluffing, neo-Nazi piece of offal.

In your case, Glenn, it's a pity that stupidity isn't painful.

 
At 01 March, 2010 23:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Lazarus Long writes, "...Are you confused about your gender role, child?"

ROTFLMAO!

Actually, LL my friend, gender doesn't apply to Glenn.

After all, he's a botched slime-mold experiment.

You're quite pathetic, Glenn; after all, you don't rate as high as a one-balled abortion on the food chain.

%^)

 
At 02 March, 2010 05:12, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"then laugh some more, especially at the dumb stupid animals dying for our freedom. Such as your son! We throw (gold plated) darts at posters with troops!"

Great answer, coward.

Remeber what I say about combat boots?

 
At 02 March, 2010 07:13, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

"Angry 'n subpar" is now an apologist for Herman Goering and Joseph Goebbels!! Consistency is the hobgoblin of your addled mind,so it's no surprise.No wonder you ove it when our government goes fascistic.Maybe Sack of Smellydiapers over at the drinks establishment has a link for you! Just what is a "lone nut,sort of" anyway? We're intrigued.

 
At 02 March, 2010 07:13, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Great answer, coward.

Remeber what I say about combat boots?


No =(

Could you please repeat it?

 
At 02 March, 2010 07:15, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Well said, Glenn--you anti-American, terrorist apologist, part-time Tijuana-donkey fluffing, neo-Nazi piece of offal.

In your case, Glenn, it's a pity that stupidity isn't painful.


I'm not a part-timer, and I resent the insinuation.

 
At 02 March, 2010 07:59, Blogger angrysoba said...

"Angry 'n subpar" is now an apologist for Herman Goering and Joseph Goebbels!

I'm happy enough to be convinced either way on the Reichstag but I'd rather see evidence. Faux-outrage and pouting doesn't do it for me.

Hitler wanted to pin the Reichstag fire on a communist plot but the communists walked. Only Marinus van der Lubbe was convicted and he was most definitely a nut.

It appears that his pardon in 2008 was done so purely on the basis that he was convicted by the Nazis but he's never been considered completely innocent by historians.

If you can find me a respectable historian who specializes in the era to say that Van der Lubbe was framed by the Nazis and that the Nazis were the real culprits I will treat it seriously, but Truthers and conspiracy sites making unsourced claims don't count.

 
At 02 March, 2010 08:00, Blogger angrysoba said...

Just what is a "lone nut,sort of"

Your genitalia.

 
At 02 March, 2010 08:03, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

angrysoba's father, and this has been explained in depth:


According to loons like angrysoba, everything is done by lone nuts. Even his own conception. Otherwise it would be a conspiracy to create the sorriest twat ever to slither the earth, and we all know that is beyond the realm of plausibilities in debunkaloonery.

Congrats, twat! You are the product of a lone nut!

 
At 02 March, 2010 08:18, Blogger angrysoba said...

"angrysoba's father, and this has been explained in depth"

No. Reposting dribbling insanity is not a support for dribbling insanity.

 
At 02 March, 2010 08:19, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

No. Reposting dribbling insanity is not a support for dribbling insanity.

 
At 02 March, 2010 11:41, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Poor poor pitiful Angry 'n subpar,completely folds his tent on the OKC events.What don't you understand about the fact that Van Der Lubbe was pardoned? Who else does that leave? I know,you hate Commies and your head is encased in a thick shell of cement.Coming along quite nicely on your Nazi history there DogBoy.

 
At 02 March, 2010 12:36, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Great answer, coward.

Remeber what I say about combat boots?

No =(

Could you please repeat it?"

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my sons combat boots, cowardly pussy.

 
At 02 March, 2010 12:38, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

And thanks for the oportunity to remind all the sane posters and readers here what cocksucking, cowardly poser you are.

 
At 02 March, 2010 14:38, Blogger NoIdentity said...

אמריקאים הם עבדים שלנו!

The hell we are! Or did you mean slaves of the Germans? 'Cus I'm cool with that, at least they can balance their budgets.

 
At 02 March, 2010 14:42, Blogger NoIdentity said...

Die Deutschen hassen nicht Homosexuell, haben sie immer toleranter als die von ihnen verrückt Protestanten in Amerika.

 
At 02 March, 2010 16:31, Blogger Triterope said...

Just what is a "lone nut,sort of"

Your genitalia.


Now that's funny.

 
At 02 March, 2010 18:12, Blogger angrysoba said...

Poor poor pitiful Angry 'n subpar,completely folds his tent on the OKC events.What don't you understand about the fact that Van Der Lubbe was pardoned?

That's an oddly juxtaposed pair of sentences. I do know that van der Lubbe was never accused of the Oklamhoma City "events".

The point of van der Lubbe's pardoning was that he was convicted under a Nazi court so, whether he was guilty or not, the system of justice that he was convicted under was considered a stain on Germany which didn't want to stand by any of the convictions. But note that while he was granted a pardon, his family weren't given compensation. Also note that while his conviction had been overturned previously it had also been reinstated.

As I said before, no reputable historian specializing in that era that I know of says that van der Lubbe had nothing to do with starting the fire.

According to this article on what appears to be an anarchist website, the communists washed their hands of van der Lubbe pretty quickly:

The Stalinists were his executioners every bit as much as the nazis, and had no hesitation in demanding his death. Dimitrov (Van der Lubbe's supposed accomplice), who was to be acquitted and become one of the principal leaders of the stalinised Comintern, even demanded in open court that Van der Lubbe should be "condemned to death for having worked against the proletariat" (L'Humanité, organ of the French CP, 17th December 1933).

The things a communist would say, eh?

You may be surprised to learn, if you do read a bit of history, that Hitler was responsible for far more egregious crimes than the burning of the Reichstag. But again, I am willing to be persuaded of his guilt on that too if you can show me the evidence. So far you've resorted to bluster and faux-outrage. I expect you to respond similarly to this, but I'm being quite reasonable in giving you another chance.

 
At 02 March, 2010 18:55, Blogger NoIdentity said...

What exactly did the government/military-industrial-complex/new-world-order gain from the Oklahoma City bombing? If it was an inside job, why?
Seriously, you can fuss all you want about people who think that every event is attributed to a "lone-gunman" but it's just as silly to assume that there are no chaotic events in the world and that even organizations like the Federal Government can't be outsmarted by determined individuals.

 
At 02 March, 2010 19:32, Blogger angrysoba said...

What exactly did the government/military-industrial-complex/new-world-order gain from the Oklahoma City bombing? If it was an inside job, why?


They got to be evil which is all they want to be.

They invented AIDS and Ebola you kow.

 
At 02 March, 2010 20:14, Blogger NoIdentity said...

Did you know that Aum Shinrikyo tried to get cultures of Ebola? That's some scary shit right there.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:28, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Hey "Angry","they" did (and still do) bring thousands of tons of cocaine and heroin into the country while carrying out an obscene "drug war" on it's own children."They" did train and set loose death squads throughout Central and South America,massacring and terrorizing millions of people."They" did draft and send millions of American boys to Vietnam,resulting in hundreds of thousands of casualties that still torment our country, under false pretenses and,yes,a false flag incident for reasons benefiting only themselves."They did carpet bomb thousands of villages in Vietnam,Cambodia and Laos,resulting in millions of innocents incinerated."They" recently did steal two Presidential elections, disenfranchising tens of millions of American citizens in the process."They" did kidnap the elcted President of Haiti and force him into exile."They" did send the Cherokee tribe on a walk to Oklahoma resulting in a 40% death rate,among too many other atrocities to mention,against the indigenous populations of this hemisphere.What makes you think anything is beyond "these" people's reach?

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:27, Anonymous Roman Craig said...

Damn Walt - you get get out there and get "They" before they you're on to them - them mean "they".

Did Ralph feed you all that bullshit?

 
At 04 March, 2010 13:39, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

What can you say about Captain Queeg that hasn't already been said? But to answer "Angrychap" (my other response never posted (?),it's well nigh obvious that Van der Lubbe was the patsy and may have been involved in some small way.Goering bragged about doing it and jeepers,Matey,who the fuck benefited from it,the German Communist Party? They complained long and loud about the whitewash of that one.I think the concept of cui bono is relevant here.Your point about how the Communists reacted is weird.The story of how Van der Lubbe was turned into a Patsy is an old stalwart in lefty circles.Picture Troy (busy turning in cans for his stalking trip to Philly? Wish I could be there,damn!!) being hired by the Bush Crime Family and suckered over to some kill zone to take the fall.Could happen,you know,"lone nut" and all.William L.Shirer's a respectable guy and everything,don't you think? His angle was clearly in the conspiracy direction.Of course,he laid out oodles of dastardly conspiracies carried out by the Nazis (for you anti-conspiracists out there,well,everyone!) as you say.Especially the organized and long term destruction of the European Jews.At any rate,you've folded your cards on OKC and time's up.Get back JoJo!

 
At 04 March, 2010 18:32, Blogger angrysoba said...

William Shirer was, I am sure, a decent enough chap. I haven't read his books but most of them came out quite some time ago.

He was more of a journalist than an historian writing when it was still commonly believed that the Nazis set up the burning of the Reichstag. Most academic historians later seemed to have concluded that van der Lubbe may well have acted alone after all. This includes AJP Taylor and Ian Kershaw. I think Richard Evans is also of this opinion but I'm not sure.

I think the concept of cui bono is relevant here.

That's original!

 
At 06 March, 2010 12:14, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

No,cui bono ain't original.Just an age old,tried and true measure of things.All day long in Federal Court they posecute for all manner of conspiracies.Conspiracies carried out with a certain benefit in mind for the conspiracists."May well have" acted alone.I just do not understand what that means.I think Shirer was both a journalist and a historian.Sounds like you're adopting the old "ignore the initial reportage and eyewitnesses" on 9/11 tack.Strange that.Please,someone,anyone have Captain Queeg's head examined.He may be on the verge of a dastardly act.All by his lonesome self!

 

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