Hell Hath No Fury
Like a Troofer scorned. Debra Medina, who was surging in the GOP primary for Texas governor until she flunked her 9-11 Truthiness test on the Glenn Beck program, is now distancing herself from the kooks and as a result the bleeding has stopped (Rasmussen shows her with 16% of the vote, down from 24% before the Beck appearance). But the Trooftards are mighty pissed that she's thrown them under the bus.
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posted by Pat @ 11:50 AM
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Seems like the truthers seduced her into the woo a lil. I really think that going on the Alex Jones show is what did it too her. He may not have asked her any questions about 9/11 on air, but after seeing the reaction Ron Paul got for what he said, I think Jones has wised up a bit. I would also like to point out that my local 9/11 nut jobs are calling into all the local radio shows defending her. They are saying things like " a lot of Americans are asking questions about 9/11, not just Debra Medina" and the ole "6 out of 10 of the 9/11 commissioners said the investigation was a farce!" bit they use.
Here is Matthew Medina (no relation....i think) on a local radio show acting like he's a regular guy and not truthtard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSnSMrqtbY4
Also, apparently Rick Perry is now also responsible for the 9/11 cover-up, see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCTgiwWNkgk&feature=channel
Oh, brother these guys are getting annoying. I remember asking these, at the first Tea Party in San Antonio, if they even knew the name of ONE person whose passed away on 9/11 and none of them could even tell me one name.
OT, it looks like the twoofers' main spokesfruitcake has come off the rails good and proper:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8533544.stm
OT, again.
I replied to the fruitcakes at 911oz about their farcical 'press release'.
I challenged them to come on SLC and debate. Here is the 911oz moderators reply:
"come on TNRA (Truth News Radio Australia) using your real name and debate the 9/11 topic with us.
There is nothing I would love more than to have the opportunity to prove how shallow and irrational the screwloosechange mob really are.
I’m looking forward to it - please contact us ASAP to organise a date and time."
http://www.truthnews.com.au/radio/wordpress/?p=968&cpage=1#comment-11381
My reply to them is not up yet:
................
"PJW - you are hereby challenged to come on TNRA using your real name and debate the 9/11 topic with us."
Amazing, eh. I asked this mob to why not debate this on SLC, and what do I get in reply?
Evasion/ignoring my suggestion, and a demand that I use my real name, and appear on THEIR show. Talk about gutless.
“There is nothing I would love more than to have the opportunity to prove how shallow and irrational the screwloosechange mob really are.”
Really? Then, why haven’t I seen you there before?
I mean, you just admitted you’d like ‘nothing more’ than to debate the people at screwloosechange, yet all you have to do is post a comment.
Why haven’t you done that? What’s been holding you back?
Can I have an answer to this, Hereward?
Also, I have already been on your idiotic blog.
Remember paul w?
That was I.
Remember, you banned me for foul language…after you lot stared with the abuse.
Lol!!!
Actually, I think it had more to do with the fact I kicked you arse on every idiotic points you made. What were they…oh yeah, did the pilots did not have the skill?
“I’m looking forward to it - please contact us ASAP to organise a date and time.”
Another demand. How surprising.
Er, No. I’m not interested. But, it seems you are interested in proving the screwloosechange mob are ‘shallow’ and ‘irrational’, to quote you:
“There is nothing I would love more than to have the opportunity to prove how shallow and irrational the screwloosechange mob really are.”
Let’s see the verbal gymnastics as you wriggle out of this one.
Because, let’s face it, we both know it ‘aint gonna happen.
After all, why spoil a perfectly good fantasy?
PS So, how many press turned up for the press release?
Lol!!!
So, in essence, you just chickened out of their invitation, and they chickened out of yours.
And you came here to share this godawful boring story. Good job!
No, RR, as always, you've an idiot, and have got it wrong.
I suggested the idiot come here to debate, then he replies he would love nothing more than to do that...so, I asked him again.
Pretty simple, really.
As for his invitation, I'm not interested in appearing on ANY radio show, let alone a truther one.
So, I said no.
Pretty simple, really.
I'd like to think it's because the 9-11 Truth movement is so irrelevant that nobody bothers preparing for them... but I'm surprised so many political candidates don't know how to deal with Twoofer questions yet.
They should take the Bill Maher approach: throw them the fuck out, while reminding your security people they don't have to be gentle. Then mock their ideas after they're gone.
And I know what you're thinking: BUT TRITEROPE DURR WHAT ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH DURRRRRRRR. Hey, Truthers have all the right in the world to go to these events wearing a "9-11 was an inside job" sandwich board, and ask the politician if they think 9-11 was a conspiracy carried out by the United States government.
But Truthers never do that, do they? No, they ask a bunch of vague, leading questions about "first responders" and "victims families" and "unanswered questions."
9-11 Truthers aren't interested in expressing their ideas. They're trying to trick somebody into saying something they can post on the Internet with the headline DURR A POLITICIAN AGREES WITH US DURRRRR 84 PERCENT DURRR NEW INVESTIGATION DURRRRRRRR.
Personally, I feel no obligation to be polite to people who are trying to mislead me. Political candidates shouldn't either. Giving a harsh answer looks bad, but being polite to 9-11 Truthers can destroy your career. The Truthers are counting on you to be polite; they know how to twist your generic, non-committal answer into OMG TWOOFER.
Truthsquaddings aren't going away, so candidates need to get wise about this. Hey, they got Van Jones fired; they could be a factor in a political race someday.
...but I'm surprised so many political candidates don't know how to deal with Twoofer questions yet.
Most politicians don't want to get caught on tape arguing with a conspiratoid. Watch politicians on TV, they need to empathize with the constituent even if they don't agree with them, "feel their pain" if you will. That's a lot better than berating them, even if the candidate knows they are wrong because to do so would make the politician come across as "mean."
How does one come halfway with a twoofer? Its not really possible because twoofers aren't open to persuasion or a meeting of the minds. You either agree with them that this country attacked itself on 9/11 (or to use their language "call for a new investigation" that is supposed to agree with their claims) or you don't. A few who are a little less varnished (or more honest) such a Barney Frank will put them in their place, but most won't it isn't good PR because it doesn't look good on TV.
Here's the answer I got:
"Comment from Hereward
Time February 25, 2010 at 10:15 am
Sadly I don’t remember you Paul.
In regard to your suggestion that I visit screwloosechange and debate there, I have a couple questions:
1) Are you an admin of that site?
2) Can you ensure that the debate is properly moderated?
If the answer to either of those questions is not an emphatic “yes” then you have no place to be “offering” me to debate there - you are just a bystander with nothing at stake
In my experience internet forums are not very good environments to debate such topics as they tend to get swamped by off-topic and ad-hominem rants.
When I invited you to come on TNRA using your real name that was a genuine invitation by me as the admin of this website, with a guarantee that you would have the floor to make your points.
This would give you a golden opportunity to put forth your point of view.
So let’s be clear that you are turning down this offer, which is made in good faith.
cheers
Hereward"
Comedy gold.
is triterope really pat or james b? i'm glad that idea of debating someone who disagrees with you on a balanced playing field is comedic gold in your eyes, but the truth is herewerd has a valid point.
Valid point
That would be what, exactly?
The only point I can see is that he's too gutless to debate here, so switches the question to me going on a fucking radio show.
Now, what was that about the truther technique?
Oh yes, change the subject.
the vailid point is that you are not interested in debate or the intelligent exchange of ideas.
as hereward pointed out, debates in forums such as SLC more times than not devolve into little more than name calling and creative usage of foul language.
has pat or james b issued the invite to hereward with guarentee that nothing will be edited out?
why is his counter offer and guarentee of a fair debate not accetable?
afraid to use your real name?
Why is it all the nuts seem to
gravitate to Texas (and Florida and
California).....
Just asking questions you know....
why is it most idiots believe whatever they're told on t.v.? foxnews said was true and t.v. never, ever misstates the truth.
has pat or james b issued the invite to hereward with guarentee that nothing will be edited out?
why is his counter offer and guarentee of a fair debate not accetable?
A blog is a far better location for a debate for several reasons:
1) A radio show is can only host a discussion for a limited time and perhaps not a convenient time. On a blog, someone can comment any time.
2) Radio shows are hardly any more civil or transparent than blog discussions. The host is free to berate callers or cut them off. A caller wouldn't doesn't have to give their real name. Except for people trying to impersonate other posters, I don't recall Pat or James deleting comments. Unlike 911blogger, there are plenty of opposing views expressed here.
3) There is no advertising here. If the radio show has advertising, I have no desire to hear about the products advertised or encourage others to hear about them.
It doesn't mean the debate should would have to take on place on SLC, it could be any similar blog.
Just a couple of stats about the truthers and electability.
2000 Presidential Election: Votes cast for Green Party candidate Ralph Nader (not a truther) - 2,883,105 (2.7% of votes cast).
2008 Presidential Election: Votes cast form Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney (certified truther) - 161,603 (0.12% of votes cast).
Perhaps Roid Rage and all the other spastics who visit this site can tell us why - if their 'movement' is attracting such support - association with the truthers is electoral seppuku.
Perhaps Roid Rage and all the other spastics who visit this site can tell us why - if their 'movement' is attracting such support - association with the truthers is electoral seppuku.
Well pseudostatistical sophist, as always you are wrong.
Who did Ralph Nader work with in his most successful election? Michael Ruppert.
Do I see Ralph Nader on this list? Yes I do.
And by the way: you didn't just actually cite ostracism in politics as a good example of determining the success of a movement of dissent, did you? Folks such as Van Jones. i.e. spineless weasels who throw the 9/11 families under the bus to salvage their "image" impress nobody, and neither is any of us intimidated by the professional McCarthyism of Faux News. It only strengthens our resolve. And by 'our' I mean anybody who is profoundly sick and tired of election fraud, insanely unequal distribution of wealth, corruption, loss of civil liberties, loss of privacy, censorship, propaganda, corporatism, secret prisons, torture, endless wars, political assassinations, the military industrial complex and (state sponsored) foreign policy induced terror.
O yeah, and the miserable malevolent mouthpieces of the perpetrators of any of the above, such as you.
So RR cites Ruppert's work with Nader in the November 2000 Presidental Election (check the month and year, mong) as evidence of the 'truth movement's' appeal. Even by the low standards of the truthers, that's truly special.
Incidentally, I hate to break this to you, but Nader is not a truther, and does not endorse your 'movement' and its lies about 9/11. Check his site if you've any doubts:
http://www.nader.org/
'And by the way: you didn't just actually cite ostracism in politics as a good example of determining the success of a movement of dissent, did you?'
Actually no, RR. You did. On this thread:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=27396589&postID=4199156109882687455
To quote you directly:
SA: When even the likes of Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman and George Monbiot (all of whom are a pretty long way from being US government apologists) think that you're a bunch of cnuts, you really just don't have a chance of building one.
RR: What makes you think we need them? Of course, you dream that we need them. You fantasize that we need them. But...we don't need them ...
SA: Again, let me know when it happens. Because when it comes to truthers and the mainstream left, you've been spurned like a rabid dog.
RR: Who said anything about the mainstream left? Like I give a damn about these phoneys. Constructing scare crows again? Sheesh!
Quite right, RR. Who needs support when you've got the 'truth' (and a handful of whack-jobs) on your side?
Actually no, RR. You did. On this thread:
In no way do any of your quotes of me support your argument. I don't know why you even try.
Quite right, RR. Who needs support when you've got the 'truth' (and a handful of whack-jobs) on your side?
Tell me again about Ralph Nader. Don't you like to get straightened out by a "truther" like I just did to you? You're a denialist nut, and your kook friends here are predominantly pro-torture fascist scumbags.
"and your kook friends here are predominantly pro-torture fascist scumbags"
Whatever you say Glenn Hitler...
Whatever you say Glenn Hitler...
Too tragic.
''Actually no, RR. You did. On this thread:'
In no way do any of your quotes of me support your argument. I don't know why you even try.'
So you're saying that didn't call mainstream leftists 'phoneys', or say that the 'truth movement' didn't need their support. There's two possible suggestions for this - either you're lying through your teeth, or you get yourself high before you type a comment.
'Tell me again about Ralph Nader.'
He's not one of you, and the only time he associated with Ruppert was before the latter decided that a conman and a child-pornographer had the key to the 9/11 'plot'.
'"and your kook friends here are predominantly pro-torture fascist scumbags"'
Talking of fascists, can you explain to me why 9/11 'truth' has such a huge following amongst neo-Nazis? ('American Free Press', Christopher Bollyn, David Duke, Nicholas Kollerstrom etc)?
in all seriousness i was a doubter before i came here, all the "debunking" that goes on around here really closed the case for me. thank you SLC.
So you're saying that didn't call mainstream leftists 'phoneys', or say that the 'truth movement' didn't need their support. There's two possible suggestions for this - either you're lying through your teeth, or you get yourself high before you type a comment.
Again, greaseball, how does this support your argument?
He's not one of you, and the only time he associated with Ruppert was before the latter decided that a conman and a child-pornographer had the key to the 9/11 'plot'.
Lies. Your favorite pastime.
Talking of fascists, can you explain to me why 9/11 'truth' has such a huge following amongst neo-Nazis? ('American Free Press', Christopher Bollyn, David Duke, Nicholas Kollerstrom etc)?
More grotesque lies: your favorite pastime. You don't have a shred of evidence to support your wild conspiracy theories about the truth movement.
Note that you did not deny the majority here are pro torture scumbags! Thank you for the admission that this is true!
(FYI: I am now a truther.)
SCAA writes, "...Talking of fascists, can you explain to me why 9/11 'truth' has such a huge following amongst neo-Nazis? ('American Free Press', Christopher Bollyn, David Duke, Nicholas Kollerstrom etc)?"
Good point!
That said, let's meet David Ray Grifter's "fact checker", Christopher Bollyn.
Well Glenn, let's take another look at the connections between Holocaust Denial and 911 "truth", shall we?
Christopher Bollyn is an interesting character with an interesting past. He's a former "investigative journalist" for the extremist right-wing, anti-Semitic tabloid Spotlight, now re-named American Free Press.
When Mr. Bollyn is not busy reading Mein Kampf, he can be found collaborating with conspiranoid whack job David Ray Griffin, who sources Christopher Bollyn throughout his books including Debunking 9-11 Debunking.
A former writer for American Free Press, Mr. Bollyn is currently a fugitive from justice. When asked about the Holocaust Bollyn wrote,
"...As I said, I have not seen at these three former camps any evidence of any large oven in which hundreds of people could be gassed or burned. Nor, have I seen any photographs or physical evidence of such an oven. I don't see how this could make me a denier of anything. One can only deny by refusing to acknowledge something that one has seen the evidence of. I have looked for the evidence of these huge gas chambers and crematoria and not found it in the places they are said to have existed. That does not make me a holocaust denier."
Of course, there's nothing strange or offensive about that statement, I suppose.
%^)
That's some cool company you keep, Glenn.
continued....
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More on Bollyn's anti-Semitism:
Source: bollyn.com: Bollyn on the B'nai B'rith - AZL Roundtable.
Source: bollyn.com: The Moldovan Menorah, Michel Friedman, and the Jewish Crimocracy.
Source: bollyn.com: The Criminal Nature of the Zionist Controlled Press.
Source: bollyn.com: The Jewish Secret Society That Controls the U.S. Media.
Source: bollyn.com: B'nai B'rith – The Jewish Secret Society that Dominates America.
Source: bollyn.com: Ehud Barak - Architect of 9-11.
Source: bollyn.com: Made in Israel: Obama Decision on Missile Shield.
Source: bollyn.com: Mossad in Germany and 9-11 Disinformation.
Source: bollyn.com: Bono & the Jewish Media Celebrate the Fall of One Wall and Ignore Another.
Source: bollyn.com: Who Controls Our Elections? .
Source: bollyn.com: Busted: The Orthodox Criminal Network.
Source: bollyn.com: "Israel did 9-11" - A Primer on the Zionist Network Behind 9-11.
The ADL writes, "...Christopher Bollyn, a writer for the conspiracy-oriented newspaper American Free Press, a leading source on the far-right for disseminating anti-Semitic propaganda, has published numerous articles alleging that Jews and/or Israel had foreknowledge of the 9/11 attacks. He also reports that certain Jews in the government not only tried to cover up Israeli involvement in the attacks but have ties to Israeli intelligence."
Source: ADL: 9/11 Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories Still Abound.
Would you like me to continue, Glenn?
"Would you like me to continue, Glenn?"
No Bob, that will not be necessary. Do you know why? (And it's a real thigh-splitter that you just went through the trouble of making a long list of links to "prove" something I already know and certainly do not deny)
Because this was the assertion: (emphasis mine)
"Talking of fascists, can you explain to me why 9/11 'truth' has such a huge following amongst neo-Nazis? ('American Free Press', Christopher Bollyn, David Duke, Nicholas Kollerstrom etc)?"
A handful of anti-semitic kooks does not constitute a "huge following". (LOL, what a hyperbolic canard)
So, in sum, you have just exhausted yourself trying to prove the obvious (Bollyn is a bigot) while not providing a single shred of evidence for your conspiracy theory about the 9/11 truth movement being anti-semitic.
Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes who should be gassed.
Glenn Maxey prevaricates, "...A handful of anti-semitic kooks does not constitute a 'huge following'. (LOL, what a hyperbolic canard)"
More lies, shit-for-brains?
Never mind that the "leaders" of the "9/11 truth movement" are a pack of "kooks" and anti-Semites. Right, Glenn?
Let's get acquainted with Holocaust Denier and "9/11 truther", Kevin Barrett.
Kevin Barrett--a member of "Scholars for 9/11 Truth" (founder, Uncle Fetzer) and friend of fellow Holocaust Denier, right-wing extremist and neo-Nazi, Christopher Bollyn--just happens to be the first professor to employ 9-11 nuttery in a college-level course on Islam.
Kevin Barrett just can't buy that Holocaust thing, as the following passage demonstrates:
"...As someone who has studied the history of Zionist Big Lies vis-a-vis Palestine, I cannot possibly dismiss the arguments of people like Green, Irving, and even Zundel. And even if the 6-million-deliberately-murdered-for-purely-ethnic-reasons figure is correct--which it very well may be; I have grown agnostic on that after studying the Big Lies of Zionism--I would still have to characterize the Holocaust as it is taught in the US as a hideously destructive myth."
Kevin Barrett is a good friend of Sofia Shafquat, the producer of 9-11 Mysteries: Demolitions. Sofia Shafquat is connected to a fine fellow [cough] named Eric Hufschmid, who just happens to be a vicious anti-Semite. Thus, it should come as no surprise that Ms. Shafquat peddles the DVD and Book of the Ernst Zundel Story. Ernst Zundel, the reader should be aware, is a major figure in Holocaust Denial circles.
My, what a tangled web 911 "truthers" weave when they first practice to deceive.
So Glenn, tell us, have you gassed any innocent Jewish people lately?
Would you like me to continue, Glenn?
''So you're saying that didn't call mainstream leftists 'phoneys', or say that the 'truth movement' didn't need their support. There's two possible suggestions for this - either you're lying through your teeth, or you get yourself high before you type a comment.'
Again, greaseball, how does this support your argument?'
I'll try and make this simple - given my audience. You are the one who is basically saying that the lack of public support for the 'truth movement' - and your complete failure to reach out beyond your core constituency (namely, the hard-left and the neo-Nazi right) - is not a reflection of your strength. Your attitude is basically 'Fuck public opinion. Fuck the need to actually convince anyone we're right and to win the argument'. It's an infantile state of mind, RR, and it's actually quite disturbing.
''He's not one of you, and the only time he associated with Ruppert was before the latter decided that a conman and a child-pornographer had the key to the 9/11 'plot'.'
Lies. Your favorite pastime.'
So tell me when Nader did what McKinney did, and declared his belief that 9/11 was either LIHOP or MIHOP. The only links I can find are on:
(1) Sites like Prison Planet.
(2) Sites like FrontPageMag.
I won't hold my breath.
''Talking of fascists, can you explain to me why 9/11 'truth' has such a huge following amongst neo-Nazis? ('American Free Press', Christopher Bollyn, David Duke, Nicholas Kollerstrom etc)?'
More grotesque lies: your favorite pastime. You don't have a shred of evidence to support your wild conspiracy theories about the truth movement.'
So, for that to be true, then:
(1) Bollyn didn't help Griffin with his 'research':
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/12/when-you-lie-down-with-dogs.html
(2) The 'Loose Change' Team did not use news 'headlines' and 'stories' from the American Free Press to substantiate their claims.
(3) The Holocaust denier Eric Hufschmid is not part of the 'truth movement':
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/30/pzn.01.html (scroll down to base)
(4) On the other side of the Atlantic, Nicholas Kollerstrom (a leading figure in the British 9/11 and 7/7 'truth movements') didn't write this article for Press TV (the Iranian state media's English-language broadcasting service):
http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=56287§ionid=3510303
(5) The far-right British National Party will not associate itself with 9/11 'truth':
http://edmundstanding.blogspot.com/2008/11/british-fascists-and-911-untruths.html
(6) Justin Raimondo did not claim that Israel has a role in 9/11:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/02/16/the-high-fivers/
(7) A Holocaust denier did not host a '9/11 Accountability Conference' in Chandler, AZ, in February 2007:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2007/01/holocaust-denier-hosting-9-11.html
and (8), the minor Japanese politician Yukihisa Fujita did not take his 'facts' on 9/11 from a Holocaust Denier called Akira Dojimaru.
I could go on, RR, but I think I've made my case. If you're ignoring these scum within your ranks, then you're either a complete cretin, or you're one of them.
Let's meet neo-Nazi and Holocaust denier Eric Hufschmid, the Godfather of 911 "truth".
So Glenn, let's take another vomit inducing look at the connections between Holocaust Denial and 911 "truth", shall we?
Eric Hufschmid is an interesting character, of that there's no doubt.
When Mr. Hufschmid is not busy purchasing Nazi memorabilia at NRA-sponsored gun events, he can be found Denying the Holocaust and formulating blood-libels against anyone he perceives as "Jewish".
Eric Hufschmid, the reader should note, was the first AmeriKKKan to publish a book on the events of 911 titled, Painful Questions, which was first published in 2002. Thus, Eric Hufschmid is no less than the Godfather of the American 911 "truth" movement.
Eric Hufschmid is also a vicious anti-Semite and Holocaust denier.
Mr. Hufschmid writes,
"...We are told that the blue stains are proof that human beings were killed in this room by cyanide. However, photos do not prove that people were killed in the room, or how many people, who which people, or why they were killed. Actually, photos do not prove the blue stains are from cyanide! Even if the blue stains are from cyanide, there is no evidence that human beings were killed in that room. It may have been a disinfection chamber. Or maybe the room held chemicals, and the blue stains are due to splattering or leaky containers."
%^)
Of course, it would be unfair of me to point out that there's nothing strange or offensive about that, I suppose.
Thus, we learn, once again, that all virtually conspiranoid theories are the product of right-wing extremists, anti-Semites and neo-Nazis.
Shall I continue, Glenn?
Let's meet anti-Semite and raving nutbar, Uncle Fetzer (aka., Jim Fetzer).
So Glenn, let's take another vomit inducing look at the connections between anti-Semitism and 911 "truth", shall we?
Uncle Fetzer is an interesting character, not to mention a certified lunatic.
When Uncle Fetzer is not busy attempting to power light bulbs by placing them in his yap, he can be found formulating "no plane" conspiranoid theories and calling for armed revolution against the United States government.
Uncle Fetzer was accused of anti-Semitism by Jonathon Moseley, who writes,
"...James Fetzer, a philosophy professor at the University of Minnesota who poses as a scientist, praised Venezuela President Hugo Chavez and promoted Chavez's proposal for an international criminal tribunal to put the Bush administration on trial. By e-mail, professor Fetzer accused me of being Jewish – sadly, I am not – because I disagree with his theories."
%^)
Of course, it would be unfair of me to point out that there's nothing strange or offensive about that, I suppose.
%^)
Would you like me to continue, Glenn?
9/11 troof has the Nazi vote in the bag.
Listening to the youtube - hilarious. The Glenn Beck interview is hilarious.
This lady is an E-F-F-I-N-G M-O-R-O-N!!!!
"Would you like me to continue, Glenn?"
Like I said, no need, Bob, you simply don't have a single shred of evidence for your conspiracy theory about the 9/11 truth movement.
Bollyn, Shafquat, Fetzer and Barret are outcasts.
These people are people are properly dealt with here:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/17206
So. Nope. Not a single shred of evidence to support your nonsense. There is no "huge neo-nazi" following, except in your paranoid fantasy world where "Glenn", your personal hobgoblin, is stalking you everywhere.
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See also Martin Durham's article 'The US Far Right and 9/11', in 'Terrorism and Political Violence' 15/2 (2003), pp.96-111. Durham's analysis of the neo-Nazi response to the 11th September 2001 attacks shows that it was split between two responses:
(1) One expressing delight at AQ's attack on 'Jew York', and expressing regret that the neo-Nazi movement hadn't started to put the 'Turner Diaries', and
(2) The other expressing the view that it was an 'inside job', and that the US government, Israel and the 'Jewish lobby' were responsible.
It's not looking good for RR, is it?
sackcloth and ashes: SLC is a collection of lies and dead links. It's not a source by any stretch of the imagination.
I'll make it simple for you too, Nazi boy.
Which prominent Jewish truther did Pat Curley debate and lose to?
Someone who works with the 9/11 families and the first responders and commands their respect?
Can Pat Curley and James Bennet say the same thing?
Have they donated to the Fealgood foundation yet? Hmm?
"...Bollyn, Shafquat, Fetzer and Barret are outcasts."
Wrong, fuck-face! They're the leaders of your movement, not "outcasts".
And since when is 9/11flogger a trusted source?
Go for it Glenn, source that slimy sexual predator, Mike Ruppert--you dog-shit eating degenerate.
Glenn Maxey prevaricates, "...Which prominent Jewish truther did Pat Curley debate and lose to?"
You just can't give up the revisionist history, can you Glenn?
Do you kiss you mother with that lying maw, Glenn.
"Go for it Glenn, source that slimy sexual predator, Mike Ruppert--you dog-shit eating degenerate."
Again, not a single credible source for your assertion that Mike Ruppert is quote a "sexual predator". We've been over that, and you bit the dust repeatedly.
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"You just can't give up the revisionist history, can you Glenn?
Do you kiss you mother with that lying maw, Glenn."
Woohoo! Pat LOST! He LOST! To a Jewish truther!
It STINGS, doesn't it? LOL.
"Wrong, fuck-face! They're the leaders of your movement, not "outcasts".
Nope. They're outcasts. Leaders are people like Donna Marsh O'Connor, Bob McIlvaine, The Jersey Girls, Jon Gold, Erik Larson, Kevin Fenton, Nafeez Ahmed, DRG, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Erik Lawyer, Barry Zwicker, et cetera.
And since when is 9/11flogger a trusted source?"
It represents the 9/11 truth movement. You, otoh, represent all that is fascist and insane about America, Bob.
(And ironically, these days, those groups = pro-Israel crowd)
Glenn Maxey lies like a rug, "...Again, not a single credible source for your assertion that Mike Ruppert is quote a "sexual predator". We've been over that, and you bit the dust repeatedly."
You'd lie to your mother, wouldn't you, Glenn?
Never mind that Ruppert was fined over $127,000 for sexual harassment.
Here's the truth, Glenn--your pathetic lies and bullsh*t notwithstanding.
Source: DailyTidings.com: Man says he's innocent of sexual harassment, Sanne Specht, 24 September 2009.
"...Former Ashland businessman Michael Ruppert says he is innocent of sexually harassing a former employee and may appeal a state labor board ruling that he pay her $127,713.
"Ruppert said the case was based on a deliberate attempt to discredit his work, a movie coming out about his views and his former newsletter, From The Wilderness.
"'I will always maintain my complete innocence in this matter,' Ruppert said. He declined to offer specifics, saying he didn't want to taint a potential appeal.
Ruppert said it was his intention to appeal this ruling to a higher court. However, he does not have the estimated $25,000 necessary to pursue such an appeal, he added.
State Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian Ruppert this month ordered Ruppert to pay $125,000 in damages and $2,713 in lost wages to former employee Lindsay Gerken, 25. She claimed Rupert fired her from work at his company, From the Wilderness Inc., after she refused his sexual advances.
Officials had said they believed Ruppert was out of the country, but he called the Mail Tribune this morning after a story about the state order appeared at mailtribune.com. He said he had been living in Culver City, Calif., for the last two years.
Source: OPBNews.com: Ashland-Based Journalist Fined For Sexual Harassment, by Kristian Foden-Vencil, 21 September 2009.
"...An Ashland-based journalist has been fined more than $120,000 for sexually harassing and then firing a 25-year-old employee.
"Michael Ruppert blogs, writes books, and is the subject of a new documentary film: Collapse. For a time he operated his magazine From the Wilderness in Ashland.
"State labor commissioner, Brad Avakian, says Ruppert continually propositioned Lindsay Gerken – one time walking into her office wearing nothing but his underwear and a smile."
Any more lies for us--you shit-eating troll?
'sackcloth and ashes: SLC is a collection of lies and dead links. It's not a source by any stretch of the imagination.'
Most of my links were to other sources, RR, not to SLC. And the fact you can't actually rebut any of them speaks volumes.
'I'll make it simple for you too, Nazi boy.'
I thought it was obvious - I'm not a 'truther'. The 'Nazi-tag' applies to your side, not ours. After all, I forgot about 'Killtown':
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7618
'Which prominent Jewish truther did Pat Curley debate and lose to?'
In which parallel universe did this happen?
'Someone who works with the 9/11 families and the first responders and commands their respect?'
A 'truther' respected by relatives and first responders? Given the propensity of your movement to (1) mock the dead on 9/11 and (2) smear the emergency services as complicit, this is a fantasy that stretches the limits of even your fucked-up excuse for a 'movement'.
http://911myths.com/LooseChangeCreatorsSpeak.pdf
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7216643725166640147&hl=en#
Darn, now I'm convinced that raging diaper is a masochist troll.
A masochist troll is one who posts nonesense, lies and baseless insults, and when the sane posters take him to task and post insults aimed at his stupidity, the troll sits at his computer and plays 'yankee-my-wankee.'
As an added bonus, it fits neatly as an explanation for his coprophilia.
You'd lie to your mother, wouldn't you, Glenn?
Never mind that Ruppert was fined over $127,000 for sexual harassment.
Here's the truth, Glenn--your pathetic lies and bullsh*t notwithstanding.
ROFLMAO. You post the same bullshit, and I post the same rebuttal.
Yet another smear campaign in a long tradition. No, I don't believe the smears, nor do I care.
Mike is correct when he argues that no investigation of these allegations is complete until it examines the burglary and smashing of FTW's computers in June, 2006. A horribly flawed police report was improperly leaked to the Ashland Daily Tidings (as admitted by Ashland police), and a malicious smear campaign by the Tidings Editor and a reporter was admitted as evidence against Mike in the present case. That editor (Andrew Scot Bolsinger) is now in prison for sex abuse of a minor and is suspected in several major felony fraud cases against Ashland businesses (should he be considered "credible"?). Even though BOLI's case presenter introduced these libelous Daily Tidings stories as evidence against Mike, BOLI completely disregards Mike's evidence related to these issues and pretends as if these events never existed in its Final Order.
Source #1
The deck was stacked against Mike from the start in the recent sexual harassment ruling against From The Wilderness, Inc. Oregon's Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI) is an executive agency that has unabashedly acted as investigator, prosecutor, judge, and (attempted) collection agent against Michael C. Ruppert even though he is not even the named defendant in this case. In this follow-up letter, I want to point out just a few ways in which BOLI has abused Mike's rights and treated him unfairly in its Final Order.
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Mike, and every citizen, has the 1st Amendment right to speak in their own defense. Nevertheless, BOLI gives weight to completely irrelevant and inadmissible post-termination truthful statements made by Mike to defend himself against these allegations and to protect his reputation, all to conjure some intent by Mike to cause additional "emotional distress". Mike said nothing after the termination in any form or forum that can be fairly determined to constitute further "retaliation". Simply put, if the complainant felt damaged by Mike's post-termination statements, her proper remedy was a libel or slander suit. No such suit was ever filed because Mike's statements were neither libelous nor slanderous. They were true, as we have come to expect from Mike over many years.
At the hearing, Mike established a clear record that he fired the complainant for cause and no other reason. In complainant's three-month tenure she had become sexually involved with a key staff member, caused one physical altercation between two staff members that Mike wasn't involved in or near, and repeatedly disrupted the office environment and verbally assaulted yet another male employee more than once. She was seen in public displaying open affection towards Mike which made him uncomfortable and caused him to move away, yet a local Ashland resident who appeared and testified to these events was dismissed out of hand in the final ruling for the sole reason that he was friends with Mike and had written for FTW.
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The complainant in this case was impeached (discredited) numerous times during the hearing — including by her own mother.
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LOL!
Source #2
And even IF Ruppert loses his appeal, I still stand by him, especially after the banana republic miscarriage of justice that led to his first fine.
Glenn the neo-Nazi lies, "...ROFLMAO. You post the same bullshit, and I post the same rebuttal."
Sorry shit-for-brains, but until Ruppert walks into court and wins his alleged "appeal", he's nothing but a convicted sexual predator who's $127,000 in the hole.
Got logic, "truther" swine?
Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes who should be gassed.
UM WHAT? Did no one else catch that? Did you actually say that RR?
So guilt-by-association doesn't apply to the truth "movement" but it applies to this blog and everyone else you hate. You're slipping Roid Rage. And you sound like the racist bigots you claim to hate.
Seriously, you're ranting about gassing kikes? Are you fucking kidding me?
Most of my links were to other sources, RR, not to SLC. And the fact you can't actually rebut any of them speaks volumes.
And I don't need to, because they're irrelevant. You simply don't have a sliver of evidence to support your wide-eyed conspiracy that the 9/11 truth movement is anti-semitic.
I thought it was obvious - I'm not a 'truther'. The 'Nazi-tag' applies to your side, not ours. After all, I forgot about 'Killtown':
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7618
Who gives a flying fuck about killtown? I don't even have to visit the link and judge whether or not your claim is correct; he's a nobody. What's your point? LOL.
In which parallel universe did this happen?
The other half of your brain is where you store all your repressed memories of devastating debunker debating losses. Try hypnosis. You're already a somnambulist, so knock yourself out.
A 'truther' respected by relatives and first responders? Given the propensity of your movement to (1) mock the dead on 9/11 and (2) smear the emergency services as complicit, this is a fantasy that stretches the limits of even your fucked-up excuse for a 'movement'.
Notice: not a single solid counterargument. Just diversion. Diversion where? Exactly:
http://911myths.com/LooseChangeCreatorsSpeak.pdf
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7216643725166640147&hl=en#
Some silly kids who made a documentary.
Now, for some remarks by Glenn Beck, the truth movement's biggest critic and full-time professional millionaire fascist McCarthyist jackboot licking stooge.
Glenn Beck Hates 9/11 Victims Families and Calls Katrina Victims, SCUMBAGS!
Sorry shit-for-brains, but until Ruppert walks into court and wins his alleged "appeal", he's nothing but a convicted sexual predator who's $127,000 in the hole.
Got logic, "truther" swine?
You bit the dust. Deal with it. Nobody in their right mind believes these activist frame-ups anymore. The claimant was impeached by her own mother. The smear journalist is a criminal thug who's into child pornography. You lose. Not a chance.
And of course in Rupert's defense you link to his own website since that's a fair source.
CRIPPLED EPISTEMOLOGY
Glenn Maxey prevaricates, "...Now, for some remarks by Glenn Beck, the truth movement's biggest critic and full-time professional millionaire fascist McCarthyist jackboot licking stooge."
Glenn Beck?????
Now you're reduced to citing a retard like Glenn Beck in order to substantiate your conspiratard tomfoolery?
Pathetic.
Seriously? "kikes who should be gassed"? And at the same time you're throwing the word Nazi around like it means nothing?
"CRIPPLED EPISTEMOLOGY"
A quote from the worst, most fascist paper ever published by a "public servant".
Who is making the statement? Ruppert's lawyer. Can you dispute his claims? Then do so. Too many have been set-up and framed by the court system simply because they were dissenters. Do you know what else has happened to Ruppert in the past? Do you remember his confrontation with Deutsch? Are you going to explain away the assassination attempts? The break-ins in that same office? The disruptions? And you are going to believe that fucking kangaroo court? After the claimant is impeached by hear own mother? After the editor responsible for the smear campaign turns out to be a child molester and a criminal?
What a joke.
"...You bit the dust. Deal with it. Nobody in their right mind believes these activist frame-ups anymore. The claimant was impeached by her own mother. The smear journalist is a criminal thug who's into child pornography. You lose. Not a chance."
Typical Glenn Maxey: Cite unsubstantiated bullshit and declare yourself the "winner".
A demitasse would fit your head like a sombrero, Glenn.
Seriously? "kikes who should be gassed"? And at the same time you're throwing the word Nazi around like it means nothing?
I thought you were already shocked by the swastikas I posted. From whence this sudden phoney indignation?
Organizations like the ADL rely on phoney accusations of anti-semitism to crush criticism and dissent in this country. So, I say they can go fuck themselves, because they don't represent the people who died in the Holocaust. I don't fear the label. It's a meaningless slur, used only to marginalize critics of Israel, and critics of that hideous gang of thugs, cutthroats and murderers with impunity, the Mossad.
A quote from the worst, most fascist paper ever published by a "public servant".
We've already been over this. He wasn't a public servant when he wrote that and he isn't proposing bans or thought crime. You just blow an academic paper out of proportion.
Are you gonna explain why the ADL are "kikes who should be gassed?" Or just pretend that you didn't say such a despicable thing in a fit of rage.
I thought you were already shocked by the swastikas I posted. From whence this sudden phoney indignation?
I'm pretty used to you calling people Nazis, nothing shocking there. I was shocked that you would make such an absurd statement as "kikes who should be gassed." You can criticize the ADL all you want, I probably agree with some of it. But gas chambers and racial slurs? That's extreme even for you.
Now, REPENT UNTO THE LORD!!
Besides, I was more offended that you drew the swastika backwards
LOL =)
A demitasse would fit your head like a sombrero, Glenn.
5% of my brain can utterly obliterate an entire cluster of intellectually vacuous "GuitarBills". While doing a hand-stand on two eggs.
Glenn Maxey rants and raves, "...Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes who should be gassed."
What was that about only a few "kooks and anti-Semites", Glenn?
It sounds to me like you're a perfect example of the "kooks and anti-Semites" who staff the "9/11 truth movement".
So Glenn tell us, have you gassed any innocent Jewish people lately?
NoIdentity writes, "...But gas chambers and racial slurs? That's extreme even for you."
No it isn't.
What was that about only a few "kooks and anti-Semites", Glenn?
It sounds to me like you're a perfect example of the "kooks and anti-Semites" who staff the "9/11 truth movement".
So Glenn tell us, have you gassed any innocent Jewish people lately?
I've gassed kookloon Dorothy and his son repeatedly, but I don't know if they are "innocent" and "Jewish".
The main point is that if you're going to be all self-righteous and call people Nazis, you don't get to make light of the Holocaust and call people "kikes." It's only fair.
And I thought shouting CRIPPLED EPISTEMOLOGY would get you all riled up. You know you love it!
Glenn Mazey shits out another 100% fact-free pile of lies, "...I've gassed kookloon Dorothy and his son repeatedly, but I don't know if they are 'innocent' and 'Jewish'."
That's right, Glenn--you two-bit anti-Semite, when your back's against the wall CHANGE THE SUBJECT.
Typical "9/11 truther": A crypto-fascist neo-Nazi.
Anyways, Bob, even if I were anti-semitic (which I ain't, but I'm happy you are upset about that enoyably coarse remark), then still you don't have a sliver of proof that the 9/11 truth is anti-semitic, except for a few obscure outcasts such as Barret and Shafquat.
Not a shred. Not a grain. Nada. Zilch. Nothing.
"Typical "9/11 truther": A crypto-fascist neo-Nazi."
I will say things like FUCKING KIKE, FUCKING CRACKER WHITE BOY, NIGGER BITCH SHIT FUCK, GAY, RETARD, GIPSY FAGOT
...whenever the fuck I want. Freedom of speech brother. So you can keep your Vidalisms where you save them. The trick is not to care.
Ha ha ha ha. Pussy.
SLC: pro-torture right-wing extremistm, fascist, Nazi FILTH.
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SIEG HEIL Pat! SIEG HEIL James!
Blut und Boden! Put on your brown shirts and march to truther HQ!
"Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes who should be gassed."
Scratch a reactionary leftist. find the fascist gibbering underneath.
Glenn Maxey prevaricates, "...Anyways, Bob, even if I were anti-semitic (which I ain't, but I'm happy you are upset about that enoyably [SIC] coarse remark)"
You're not a anti-Semite?
Really? No kidding?
The perhaps you explain why you wrote the following: "...Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes [SIC] who should be gassed."
You're no better than Bollyn, Barrett, Hufschmid, Shafquat or Fetzer.
Eat shit and die--you God damned crypto-fascist neo-Nazi.
And I thought shouting CRIPPLED EPISTEMOLOGY would get you all riled up.
This is true.
Scratch a reactionary leftist. find the fascist gibbering underneath.
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SIEG HEIL, Dorothy! You and your son: fascist SCUMBAGS. HEIL HITLER!
Hang yourself in your backyard with your yellow ribbon. Your son needs a real father. One that can talk him out of fascism. Unfortunately, he's going to have his throat cut because of the inept pussy his father taught him to be.
Glenn the crypto-fascist neo-Nazi scribbles,
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"Organizations like the ADL rely on phoney accusations of anti-semitism to crush criticism and dissent in this country. So, I say they can go fuck themselves, because they don't represent the people who died in the Holocaust. I don't fear the label. It's a meaningless slur, used only to marginalize critics of Israel, and critics of that hideous gang of thugs, cutthroats and murderers with impunity, the Mossad."
Bears repeating, anti-semite.
You're no better than Bollyn, Barrett, Hufschmid, Shafquat or Fetzer.
Eat shit and die--you God damned crypto-fascist neo-Nazi.
Ha ha ha. I love you too, Bob. Break some fingers, slippery bati boy.
"Bears repeating, anti-semite."
Thanks! =)
Would you mind repeating it on every single SLC blog entry from henceforth, Dorothy?
HEIL HITLER, Dorothy. You and Adolf, a real pair!
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"SIEG HEIL, Dorothy! You and your son: fascist SCUMBAGS. HEIL HITLER!
Hang yourself in your backyard with your yellow ribbon. Your son needs a real father. One that can talk him out of fascism. Unfortunately, he's going to have his throat cut because of the inept pussy his father taught him to be."
Ahhhhhh, got it.
Projection.
Does your Daddy hate you, too?
The problem with this silly argument about whether or not 9-11 truth is antisemitic (never mind crazy) is that it is not one monolithic organization. There are antisemitic truthers and there are truthers that harbor no grudge against the Jews. There are truthers that do their best to avoid wild speculation and there are truthers who speculate wildly about "fake crises" in Haiti.
Since there is no real "movement" but just a few facebook pages, internet sites, and small occasional meetings, it is difficult to paint the entire group with one brush.
However, although RR likes to dismiss Alex Jones as the "tabloid" of the truth movement, he has the largest following. I'd recommend you go read the comments on his site RR. It's a wild mix of Christian Eschatology, antisemitic rants, and know-nothing high-school educated paranoids. THAT is the identity you have to cope with because fair or not that is how most people see truthers.
Call it a McCartyhist plot to discredit dissent all you want, its a successful plot!
GuitarBill / Dorothy:
SS members! NAZI PARTEI!
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"Does your Daddy hate you, too?"
DIE, DIE, DIE, fascist, DIE!
(Just practicing German prepositions, such as "Die", "Das" and "Der")
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This ASCII art is getting out of control. I feel inadequate, all I can do is make smiley faces =(
The problem with this silly argument about whether or not 9-11 truth is antisemitic (never mind crazy) is that it is not one monolithic organization. There are antisemitic truthers and there are truthers that harbor no grudge against the Jews. There are truthers that do their best to avoid wild speculation and there are truthers who speculate wildly about "fake crises" in Haiti.
Amen!
However, although RR likes to dismiss Alex Jones as the "tabloid" of the truth movement, he has the largest following. I'd recommend you go read the comments on his site RR. It's a wild mix of Christian Eschatology, antisemitic rants, and know-nothing high-school educated paranoids. THAT is the identity you have to cope with because fair or not that is how most people see truthers.
Sorry, AJ and his site just tick me off. I've read some of the comments sometimes. Nothing but idiots who paste ascii swastikas and provocative rants.
It's an embarrassment to all of us. LOL.
Okay, I'll quit this now. I've had enough fun.
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I'm so confused! Is that a distorted smiley face?
Did someone actually suggest SLC as a valid place for rational debate?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAHAHAA!
Yeah, come present your views at Pat fuckin' coward Curley's house of idiocy and feigned ignorance!
"The column failed over 8 floors..."
That'll win the 'debate' every time, huh Pat, you hideous old fat lump of beauty, you.
"Squat Turdly said...
Did someone actually suggest SLC as a valid place for rational debate?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAHAHAA!
Yeah, come present your views at Pat fuckin' coward Curley's house of idiocy and feigned ignorance!
"The column failed over 8 floors..."
That'll win the 'debate' every time, huh Pat, you hideous old fat lump of beauty, you."
I find your point of view interesting and would like to receive your newsletter.
Glenn Maxey scribbles, "...5% of my brain can utterly obliterate an entire cluster of intellectually vacuous "GuitarBills". While doing a hand-stand on two eggs."
That's rich coming from a retard who can't do elementary algebra.
Don't let your alleged brains go to your head, Glenn.
This is not a swastika....
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....it is a diagram of Denver Inernational Airport. Glenn Roid Rage is still a Nazi, though.
Glenn Maxey (aka, Herr Julius Streicher) rants, "...Organizations like the ADL rely on phoney accusations of anti-semitism to crush criticism and dissent in this country. So, I say they can go fuck themselves, because they don't represent the people who died in the Holocaust. I don't fear the label. It's a meaningless slur, used only to marginalize critics of Israel, and critics of that hideous gang of thugs, cutthroats and murderers with impunity, the Mossad."
Right on schedule.
So Glenn, what's the difference between a Nazi and a bag of shit?
The bag.
Wow. All of the "whistle blowing" going on here has really closed the case for me. Thanks, troof movement. FYI: I am now a debunker.
Like anyone cares if another person goes full retard and starts believing this shit... that doesn't make it any more true than unicorns. Good job admitting you're stupid, gullible, and unwilling to do research outside of a few cliks, you dumbass.
Didn't take long for RR to out himself, did it?
This will remain on record:
'Oh and by the way, the ADL are just a bunch of zionist kikes who should be gassed.
25 February, 2010 09:47'
Sick little bastard.
Watch politicians on TV, they need to empathize with the constituent even if they don't agree with them.
How does one come halfway with a twoofer? Its not really possible
Exactly. 9-11 Truthers at campaign events are nothing but hecklers, and should be treated as such. They are there to hijack the event, not participate in it.
That a Truther even got to ask the question is a failure of Medina's advance man. Whom I hope she fired after this fiasco. Or hired one if she was doing it herself.
Dumbass Dan sarts thing off with the latest conspiracy theory from the insane Debunker Cult:"truthers" are engaged in a conspiracy to bamboozle and hypnotize people into thinking like them! And "Paul W",you are pretty simple.Really.Let's see,you copped out (probably because you know you will have your ass handed to you if don't have your fellow circle jerkers holding your hand) and are now trying to spin it as an elevated move.Talk about gutless,you've proved you're a spineless jellyfish.You can still redeem yourself by going on their program.Sounds like a very reasonable offer to me.
You guys are seriously sad people. Surely you have something better to do than badger people who are standing up for the pursuit of truth? Or maybe that's it.. you have nothing better to do. Silly little minds with nothing to do.. haha.
Sure, there are some questionable people who get bundled in with the more legitimate leaders of the movement, and LC does get some things wrong. But don't you have questions too?
You guys who run this site are on the loosing side anyway.. so i don't really care either way.
Just remember that in the long run it will be guys like you who hindered the progress of the 9-11 truth movement on its way to exposing the true criminals behind 9-11. How very patriotic of you.
I'll happily accept your apology now, for hindering the pursuit of justice if you will offer it. You have a chance now, before it's too late for you.
I'll happily accept your apology now, for hindering the pursuit of justice if you will offer it.
Go fuck yourself.
'I'll happily accept your apology now, for hindering the pursuit of justice if you will offer it. You have a chance now, before it's too late for you.'
Too late for what? Your bedtime?
FOAD. You 'truthers' are nothing more than a coalition of liars, creeps and Nazi-boys. You've achieved fuck-all over the last 8 and a half years, and if you're 'movement' lasts until 11th September 2101, you'll be no further forward then than you are now. So eat the shitty end of the stick.
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