Saturday, March 13, 2010

Yet Another Glorious Failure for the Troofers

And you won't hear about it anywhere else other than here and at JREF. Remember the thrilling NYC-CAN effort last year, that turned out to be NYC-CANT? Well, they decided to duplicate their failure in New Hampshire, where apparently it only takes a handful of signatures to get a measure voted on, and a voice vote at that will get it on the ballot. How'd they do?

Gloriously.

A petition article on several town warrants instructs the state’s congressional delegation to pursue a “new and independent investigation” into the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. Here’s how it fared in local towns:

u Chesterfield: Failed

u Harrisville: Failed

u Marlborough: Failed

u Nelson: Passed over

u Richmond: Passed

u Swanzey: Failed


One out of six!

Meanwhile, NYC-CANT is still urging funds for their NYC efforts:

Starting on Monday, March 15, 2010, NYC CAN will ask thousands of concerned citizens in New York and across the country to begin calling and faxing three city council members each day. All 51 council members will be contacted over the course of 17 business days.

Each morning, NYC CAN will send out an action alert with the contact info for three city council members’ offices. In our action alerts we will include a set of suggested talking points to use when you call or fax the council members.


Boris, send them some money! I can assure you it will not be used for Luke's tuition.

Hat Tip to our longtime blog-buddy, Orphia Nay at JREF, who's been covering this story like a blanket.

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At 13 March, 2010 07:03, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Yukihisa Fujita's letter to the Washington Post wallows in self-pity.


My favorite line is "I have many American friends and have spent many decades endeavoring to serve as a bridge between the two countries"


No, you just make common cause with those who accuse United States of committing mass murder of its own citizens, other than that, you're a great friend of the United States! I'm reminded of the segregationists who used to claim they had "many black friends."

The twoofer swarm hasn't shown up yet to post comments.

 
At 13 March, 2010 07:30, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Pat,

If the Boris you are addressing is me then all I can say is that I will make my decisions in no way based on anything you suggest or ask me to do.

Regarding the gist of the post: has it ever occurred to you that, say, in the 1930's in Louisiana or Georgia it would have been but unthinkable that one day - a mere 30 years later - segregated buses, park benches and water fountains would be history? Of course you are employing an age-old propaganda technique of trying to undermine the opponents morale... You are only mistaken in thinking that an anonymous nobody such as yourself has much influence to do that, especially given that many people in the 9/11 truth movement have been there for awhile and are quite ready for stick it out for another while.

 
At 13 March, 2010 07:32, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

ConsDemo said...

No, you just make common cause with those who accuse United States of committing mass murder of its own citizens, other than that, you're a great friend of the United States!

One day you might grow up and realize that the United States (the land, the people, language, customs, traditions, creations) and United States government are two different entities. Until that you will likely stay trapped in this same hateful dead-end mindset you seem to be exhibiting here.

 
At 13 March, 2010 07:45, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

And you won't hear about it anywhere else other than here and at JREF.

Oh, won't you? Really?

Note the date, Pat: "Submitted by LeoAlphaMale on Fri, 03/12/2010 - 3:19pm". That's before you published this little piece of yours, many hours before.

But then again, I am forgetting who I am talking to. Never mind - if the facts are against you all the worse for the facts, right, Pat?

 
At 13 March, 2010 08:59, Blogger Billman said...

Boris is on a self granduerizing role...

Anyway.. what does say, NEW HAMPSHIRE, have to do with attacks in New York? What right would New Hampshire have to do an investigation in New York?

Boris, you're brilliant and the smartest person alive ever, perhaps you could make some sense of that for me?

 
At 13 March, 2010 09:00, Blogger Billman said...

Heh, my word verification is "groinact" how funny.

 
At 13 March, 2010 09:12, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Billman said...

Boris is on a self granduerizing role...

Anyway.. what does say, NEW HAMPSHIRE, have to do with attacks in New York? What right would New Hampshire have to do an investigation in New York?

Boris, you're brilliant and the smartest person alive ever, perhaps you could make some sense of that for me?


As long as citizens of New Hampshire died in the attacks - and yes, they did, at least one - Neil Marriani - the state authorities can investigate this crime. But since it affects everyone alive a greater human duty to find out the truth is there for people in NH just as much as for people in Argentina.

Plus the idea was to have the NH Congressional representatives press for an investigation on the federal level.

And yes, your English could use some improvement. It would be "Boris is in a self granduerizing role..." if anything. Just a sidenote.

 
At 13 March, 2010 10:11, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"If the Boris you are addressing is me then all I can say is that I will make my decisions in no way based on anything you suggest or ask me to do."

Of course not, bore-ass, you're to fucking stooopid to take good advice.

 
At 13 March, 2010 10:13, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"One day you might grow up and realize that the United States (the land, the people, language, customs, traditions, creations) and United States government are two different entities. Until that you will likely stay trapped in this same hateful dead-end mindset you seem to be exhibiting here."

See.

Stooooopid.

Don't let you mind wander, bore-ass, it's far too small to be let out on its own

 
At 13 March, 2010 10:15, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"As long as citizens of New Hampshire died in the attacks - and yes, they did, at least one - Neil Marriani - the state authorities can investigate this crime."

Um, no, no they can't.

And my capucha is "porplik", which is just a PERFECT description of bore-ass.

 
At 13 March, 2010 11:40, Anonymous NWOisBunk said...

Regarding the gist of the post: has it ever occurred to you that, say, in the 1930's in Louisiana or Georgia it would have been but unthinkable that one day - a mere 30 years later - segregated buses, park benches and water fountains would be history?

Boris, Truthers aren't black, alright? They're retarded.

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:00, Anonymous tin hat man said...

"Boris, Truthers aren't black, alright? They're retarded."

Is it my imagination or are there actually not that many black conspiracy theorists? It seems to be mostly 16-30 yrs old hirsute white males.

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:15, Blogger Billman said...

Thanks for the grammar lesson. I'm the first to admit I'm not the best speller or grammar teacher. But I'm not here to argue semantics or nitpick when a troofer spells wrong (unless its spacebar boy, and he's the only exception).

Also, you do make a good point about if one citizen was killed. I wasn't looking at it that way. But, it does make snese and also provides a loop hole for troofers to try again. But they will never get complete power to do what they are hoping for. and hell, if they want an new investigation, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that. Its the "unlimited prosecution power" thing that we have trouble with.

 
At 13 March, 2010 12:28, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Billman said...

But they will never get complete power to do what they are hoping for. and hell, if they want an new investigation, I don't think anyone here disagrees with that. Its the "unlimited prosecution power" thing that we have trouble with.

What sort of "unlimited prosecution power" are we talking about?

 
At 13 March, 2010 13:06, Anonymous paul w said...

"If the Boris you are addressing is me"

Boris, how many people called Boris post on this blog, Boris?

 
At 13 March, 2010 16:11, Anonymous New Yorker said...

If the Boris you are addressing is me then all I can say is that I will make my decisions in no way based on anything you suggest or ask me to do.

You seem to operate under the delusional belief that anyone cares what you do.

Regarding the gist of the post: has it ever occurred to you that, say, in the 1930's in Louisiana or Georgia it would have been but unthinkable that one day - a mere 30 years later - segregated buses, park benches and water fountains would be history? Of course you are employing an age-old propaganda technique of trying to undermine the opponents morale... You are only mistaken in thinking that an anonymous nobody such as yourself has much influence to do that, especially given that many people in the 9/11 truth movement have been there for awhile and are quite ready for stick it out for another while.

Learn what analogies are, Boris. Also, let me know when any of you morons in the "truth" movement are ready to face down the equivalent of Bull Connor and the KKK and spend time in jail for civil disobedience.

One day you might grow up and realize that the United States (the land, the people, language, customs, traditions, creations) and United States government are two different entities.

OK. What point are you trying to make with this, genius?

 
At 13 March, 2010 16:12, Anonymous New Yorker said...

Is it my imagination or are there actually not that many black conspiracy theorists? It seems to be mostly 16-30 yrs old hirsute white males.

Or gays (another group that's had to deal with real civil rights issues). Given the homophobia of your typical white teenage suburbanite with anger issues (i.e. the "truther" demographic), I'm not surprised.

 
At 13 March, 2010 17:31, Blogger Triterope said...

What sort of "unlimited prosecution power" are we talking about?

http://911links.webs.com/NYCCAN-Fail-2.jpg

 
At 13 March, 2010 17:38, Blogger Triterope said...

As long as citizens of New Hampshire died in the attacks - the state authorities can investigate this crime.

**facepalm**

 
At 13 March, 2010 18:17, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"One day you might grow up and realize that the United States (the land, the people, language, customs, traditions, creations) and United States government are two different entities."

Except for one inconvenient thing, it would have taken hundreds if not thousands of "people" to do the act you fantasize about. Unless you think Bush did it all himself. And of course thousands more would have to overlook such an obvious conspiracy, well, just because. All the FDNY would have to ignore an obvious controlled demolition, as would controlled demolition companies. Military personnel would also have to blindly obey commands to stand down while the attacks take place. But those people are not as morally upstanding as you Boris, right?

Yes Boris you are such a brave freedom fighter.

Yeah.. Right... Face it Boris like all truther you are a low IQ cretin, a nobody who imagines himself a hero because in reality you do nothing to improve the human condition. If you died tomorrow it would be no big lost. Just another sorry sad unskilled, talent less grunt who can be replaced with a trained monkey.

I know it makes you feel good to disparage people who are far better than you will ever be, that is why the lower class rubes like you buy these conspiracy theorist scams. Conspiracies are easy for the weak of mind, you can blame a bunch of faceless evil doers just like you saw in some movie. Yeah your type will always stick it out, and we will also always have cockroaches. There will always be a sad underbelly of people like you. So what, you don't matter, never have, never will.

 
At 13 March, 2010 23:20, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Dave Kyte said...

Yeah.. Right... Face it Boris like all truther you are a low IQ cretin, a nobody who imagines himself a hero because in reality you do nothing to improve the human condition. If you died tomorrow it would be no big lost. Just another sorry sad unskilled, talent less grunt who can be replaced with a trained monkey.

Go back to your website. Answer the highly relevant questions Ken Webber and I have asked here and here and here. There's plenty more but that should do for starters. Then maybe I will find the time to address the rest of your drivel.

Also, you may consider learning some elementary English grammar. For one thing, you don't want to look like a "lower class rube", now do you, Dave?

 
At 14 March, 2010 04:57, Blogger Triterope said...

Pat, I have a correction to the original post.

From the Town of Nelson's website:

Passed Over means that the town voted not to consider the article.

So make it zero for six.

 
At 14 March, 2010 06:37, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hehe...whew. Dave Kyte, sweet idiot ramblings. The liars and deniars are very good at name calling, personal attacks and infantile behavior and not so good at physics and engineering. Who put the super-thermite in WTC 1,2&7? Why is Pop Mech starting to back peddle off their original published information? Would you like to discuss the rate of free fall with 1100 Architects and Engineers? If you are so convinced your camp is correct then why not simply have a meeting to settle the issues? You bring your 1100 certified A/E and we'll bring ours. You can name call and act the fool however you cannot argue the real and truthful physics and engineering.

 
At 14 March, 2010 06:40, Blogger chava said...

its me Dave, Chava Kaufman. F/F.

 
At 14 March, 2010 07:38, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

" Who put the super-thermite in WTC 1,2&7?"

No one.

 
At 14 March, 2010 09:19, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Anonymous said...

Hehe...whew. Dave Kyte, sweet idiot ramblings. The liars and deniars are very good at name calling, personal attacks and infantile behavior and not so good at physics and engineering.

Actually, even that may not be 100% true, especially so in the case of Mr Kyte. I have been dealing with him for quite some time, as you can tell, and I have to say that I can't call him "good at name calling". In my opinion, to be good one ought to be creative and entertaining; his insults, on the other hand, are dull, repetitive and after you have listened to them over a few repetiotions you can all but predict what sort of tirade would come next. So no, if you asked me, that wouldn't qualify as "very good at name calling".

 
At 14 March, 2010 11:58, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Go back to your website. Answer the highly relevant questions Ken Webber "

The answers are right there on the web site, unfortunately you and Ken being the type of guys you are, that is low on thinking ability will never understand the answers and I can't dumb them down enough for the idiot class. Hell you still think the towers fell at free-fall, not that you understand the concept in any real depth, but you were told free-fall and it's the current talking point, maybe one day your will learn.

It burns you when I point out the obvious reality of truthers v debunkers. That in the world of real people you are the inferior "race", because of an accident of genetics or your own lack of interest in leaning critical thinking skills you are always going to be the brunt of the joke. You will always be the fools who get fooled, who buy the latest and greatest scam.

I could stand in room with thousands of people and shout out that 9/11 truthers are low life loons of the inbreed variety and few would disagree, some may think it odd I take the time to point out such an obvious thing, but few would find fault with the observation.

If you spewed truther drivel to a group of people they would only laugh at you and wonder where the kook came from.

Hell Boris after reading your so called technological blog it's obvious you are not even a skilled code monkey. Couldn’t figure out a PDF file was an InDesign PDF? You would think even a grunt like you would be good at the grunt work.

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:16, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Would you like to discuss the rate of free fall with 1100 Architects and Engineers?

Sure, set it up, even a none engineer like me knows the towers didn't fall at free-fall.

The fact you don't understand free-fall and the physics behind it is very telling, it shows a certain inborn ignorance. And it is beyond my ability to explain the concept to a person who lacks the necessary discernment to apprehend the subject. It's like talking to a child, you can hear the words buy just don't get it.

But by all means let hear your explanation on how the collapse defies know physics.

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:28, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

To Dave Kyte:

Thanks for failing to answer the questions I linked to once again. Since they were asked of you awhile ago it appears a safe bet that you never had any idea as to how to answer them, and you still don't.

Giving credit where credit is due I must note that you have gone to posting under you own name which is a step in the right direction in comparison to being an anonymous nobody. However, before you show off your self-perceived superiority ("It burns you when I point out the obvious reality of truthers v debunkers. That in the world of real people you are the inferior "race", because of an accident of genetics or your own lack of interest in leaning critical thinking skills you are always going to be the brunt of the joke.") I would like to remind you that back in Fall of 2008 you were supposed to contact me for an online debate about 9/11. You still have not done so. That most likely indicates that you are afraid of such a debate. Which would be understandable given that you have nothing to bring to the table.

It is difficult to understand why you would even conceive of yourself as being in any way superior to others - at least if one were to use your website as a yardstick. While it is esthetically appealing the navigation there is not very good. The art is OK - nice drawing, you would probably make a decent illustrator. The photos are not bad - some of them - though you seem to have preference for easy static scenes. I really fail to notice anything outstanding in anything you do.

Sorry to have done off topic but I think I'd mention this. Oh, and here are a couple more questions I'd be really curious to get answers to. The are not difficult, David. Here they are:

1) How old are you? I don't need precise age, I am just curious what age group a person acting like you happens to belong to.

2) Is English your first language? Or your second? Or your third?

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:45, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Dave Kyte said...

Would you like to discuss the rate of free fall with 1100 Architects and Engineers?

Sure, set it up, even a none engineer like me knows the towers didn't fall at free-fall.


Once again, Dave, you said pretty much the same thing to me about a year and a half ago. You were supposed to get in touch with me to arrange a debate. You still haven't.

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:48, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"you have gone to posting under you own name which is a step in the right direction in comparison to being an anonymous nobody."

There has to be a name for the psychoses that bore-as has.

Anyone have an idea what it's called?

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:50, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"It is difficult to understand why you would even conceive of yourself as being in any way superior to others.

bore-ass, EVERYBODY is superior to you.

 
At 14 March, 2010 12:51, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"You were supposed to get in touch with me to arrange a debate. You still haven't."

Who would give their personal information to a psychotic stalker like you?

 
At 14 March, 2010 13:18, Blogger ConsDemo said...

United States (the land, the people, language, customs, traditions, creations) and United States government are two different entities

Dave Kyte did an excellent job rebutting this statement, and I see you couldn’t come up with anything in response.

hateful dead-end mindset

Stop crying like a little baby, Bore-ass. You engage in vicious slander and no one is supposed to criticize you for it? Grow up. Speaking of which, does your whole life revolve around posting comments here? I figured you didn’t have much of a social life, but jeez, you seem to have nothing better to do than respond to every comment posted here. You are an even bigger loser than I thought.

Why is Pop Mech starting to back peddle off their original published information?

Hey Anon, care to post a link from Pop Mech where they say they’ve suddenly decided 9/11 was perpetrated by the United States?

 
At 14 March, 2010 13:29, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Speaking of the topic of the thread, I see in the link Bore-ass posted that the author is trying to spin this as some sort of victory. About 23 percent voted in favor of these questions, that would only be considered a “victory” in twooferdom, but it’s actually even worse than that. A total of 767 cast votes in favor the rather innocuously worded questions. The question on the ballot in Exeter referred to “unanswered questions” about 9/11. Hell, I have unanswered questions about 9/11, but lets give twoofers the benefit of the doubt and assume all 767 believe the evil US attacked itself on 9/11. Certainly every twoofer in these towns made it to the polls, I there is one thing I will say for them, they certainly are devoted to their “cause”, despicable as it is. Look at people like Bore-ass, he does this 24/7, they are all interconnected, they certainly “got their vote” out. The “no” votes, on the other hand, are simply the number of sane people who turn out in these very low turnout local elections. If you measure the twoof vote against the much larger turnout in 2008 in these towns, twoofers got 4.0%, that is even less than 4.6% in their own poll that said they believe MIHOP. Looks like twooferism is losing popularity. Quick, get Dick Gage in his supposed 1,000 architects and engineers to talk sense these folks in New Hampshire!

 
At 14 March, 2010 14:17, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Well Boris, why should a guy like me be ashamed of punking truthers like you? I make no bones about it with anyone I meet, including people I do work for, no one see truthers as anything more than useless loons.

You challenge me to a debate and then wanted me to set it up because you were incapable of doing it yourself. Wow, some "Tech" guy you are. I have no problem humiliating you in public, you made the challenge you set it up.

I make a living as an illustrator and doing web site design and lots of other things a sad loser like you can never do. So don't think I am impressed with the opinions of a talent less code monkey, if I were as useless as you I may have pictured the truther thing as my savior too, but I have a life and a variety of interest, only one of them is lampooning silly conspiracy spewing clowns.

Why are YOU asking ME questions? Don't you know anything? Do you really think asking stupid questions and then declaring victory because your intellectual superiors choses not to spend time answering those childish questions is impressing anyone but people like you?

I have a question for you. Exactly what about the 18 to 25 second collapse of the towers defies the physics of a gravity driven collapse? I know you are not that bright and all, but give it a try if you can.

 
At 14 March, 2010 14:27, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Who would give their personal information to a psychotic stalker like you?

Oh, he knows who I am and it's not hard to figure out where I live. But like most truthers Boris is a coward and an incompetent. Why fear such and impotent boob.

 
At 14 March, 2010 15:34, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Dave Kyte said (amongst other rather meaningless things)...

I have a question for you. Exactly what about the 18 to 25 second collapse of the towers defies the physics of a gravity driven collapse? I know you are not that bright and all, but give it a try if you can.

Dave,

I know you are having trouble comprehending English but allow me to remind you that a few posts up I said:

Go back to your website. Answer the highly relevant questions Ken Webber and I have asked...

What this means is that you answering those questions (challenges, really) is a pre-condition to any meaningful debate with you. In fact, given your propensity to live in denial I am not sure any dialog with you is truly possible.

See, like it or not, but fundamentally you only have two options here: either you answer those questions or I feel absolutely no obligation whatsoever to answer any questions you happen to ask.

Allow me to also repeat the bonus questions I have asked you before. They are not directly related to 9/11, but I am still curious to learn the answers to them:

1) How old are you?

2) Is English your first language?

 
At 14 March, 2010 15:55, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

You see I know you would never be able to answer a question of simple high school physics. Proof once again you lack the intelligence to understand the subject. Nothing new there, you are not the brightest bulb in the lamp.

Any meaningful debate would require you to get much smarter and like I said I doubt you have the capacity to do so.

They are not directly related to 9/11, but I am still curious to learn the answers to these:

1) Are you how they say "Special"?

2) Is there a history of mental retardation in your family?

 
At 14 March, 2010 16:05, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

To Dave Kyte:

Thanks for making it clear that not only are you incapable of answering the questions Ken Webber and I had asked but you also don't know your own age and don't know what the first language you learned to speak was. Instead you resolve to the sort of insults that most people do not practice beyond the tender age of about 12.

You see, boy, in the adult world one would not be going around judging their own intellect. I will leave it to the others to judge mine.

As for your infantile attempt to insult my family I presume that is the only sort of argument you still have left. Well, just like I said before - you need to at least learn to insult people creatively if that is a career choice of yours. Thus far your insults are as boring as they are infantile.

 
At 14 March, 2010 16:23, Anonymous Fucktard Patrol said...

Fuck off Boris - you're proof Stalin didn't go far enough.

And while you're at it Fucktard get the hell out of my country.

 
At 14 March, 2010 16:47, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Fucktard Patrol said...

Fuck off Boris - you're proof Stalin didn't go far enough.

And while you're at it Fucktard get the hell out of my country.


That a supporter of the official story of 9/11 - and, quite likely, a supporter of the various dictatorial measures 9/11 helped usher - would also be a fan of Joseph Stalin and his repressive methods comes as little surprise.

Just for your information, when I make my travel plans I never take anonymous nobodys' suggestions under consideration. On a personal note, though, if you feel that the US Constitution and norms and laws the US is built upon are not to your liking let me remind you that the US has open borders and you most certainly have my permission to position yourself on the other side of the border and never come back here.

 
At 14 March, 2010 18:22, Anonymous New Yorker said...

How old are you, Boris? Judging by those beautiful mugshots of yours, I doubt you're part of the 16-22 angry white guy demographic that makes ups most of the "truth" movement.

Maybe it's time to do something more valuable with your life than posting pointless gibberish on an obscure blog? When you're sitting in the nursing home years from now, don't you think you'll be regretting spending your life on nonsense like 9/11 "truth"?

 
At 14 March, 2010 18:39, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

New Yorker said...

How old are you, Boris? Judging by those beautiful mugshots of yours, I doubt you're part of the 16-22 angry white guy demographic that makes ups most of the "truth" movement.

Maybe it's time to do something more valuable with your life than posting pointless gibberish on an obscure blog? When you're sitting in the nursing home years from now, don't you think you'll be regretting spending your life on nonsense like 9/11 "truth"?


I am 40 years old. If you so much as visited my profile you would not even have to ask this question. From my experience 9/11 truthers are mostly older than the group you are referring to but that's an aside.

If you believe what I post is glibberish then prove me wrong. And I see no reason to regret working for justice and peace - not now, nor in the future.

Hope this answers your questions.

 
At 14 March, 2010 19:14, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"If you believe what I post is glibberish then prove me wrong."

No need.

Everything you post proves you are nothing more than about a chromosome short of a Biden.

 
At 14 March, 2010 19:44, Blogger Triterope said...

Pat, I have a correction to the original post. Make it zero for six.

Never mind. I'm an idiot. Misread the OP again.

This is what I get for making rushed responses in the last five minutes of waiting for my carpool.

 
At 14 March, 2010 20:13, Anonymous Chet Ripley said...

"you most certainly have my permission to position yourself on the other side of the border and never come back here."

I've been to your Motherland Boris. The weather sucks, the women are butt ugly and it smells like an outhouse. I fully understand why you left.

 
At 15 March, 2010 09:09, Anonymous New Yorker said...

I am 40 years old. If you so much as visited my profile you would not even have to ask this question.

Why would I visit your profile?

From my experience 9/11 truthers are mostly older than the group you are referring to but that's an aside.

Well, except for Dylan Avery, Luke Rudkowski, etc. But Brian Good is an old lunatic!

If you believe what I post is glibberish then prove me wrong.

You knuckleheads in the "truth" movement just don't understand the concept of the burden of proof, do you? It's not up to me to prove your nonsensical assertions wrong, it's up to you to prove them right. You've had 8 1/2 years, so anytime you want, Boris.....

And I see no reason to regret working for justice and peace - not now, nor in the future.

Nothing about 9/11 "truth" is remotely related to "justice and peace", so maybe it's time to pick a new movement to join?

Hope this answers your questions.

Yes, thank you. Now go see a psychiatrist so you don't waste the 2nd half of your life on 9/11 "truth".

 
At 15 March, 2010 11:22, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"If you believe what I post is glibberish then prove me wrong."

WOW! And the idiot doesn’t even realize just how stupid a statement that is. Anyone who is into the art of critical thinking would know and never make such an ignorant statement.

Look up Carl Sagan's lectures on critical thinking and in particular "The Dragon in my Garage" You prove a positive you can not disprove a negative. It's a logic thing that you obviously are too mentally stunted to understand.

Also you could take Sagan's advice on how incredible theories demand incredible proof. Saying prove me wrong is the ravings of a featherweight thinker.

And cut the crap about peace and justice, YOU are the one accusing hundreds on Americans of mass murder and all without a shred of evidence, only you own questions derived your personal ignorance on the subject.

 
At 15 March, 2010 11:42, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Why would I visit your profile?"

Comedy Gold.

Love the bit where he goes down to help after Katrina, Yeah like they need him. Got searched by the police and kind of told to go home.

His volunteer work? Well he quotes "They were a fun group. All the nights there were parties."

Typical loon playing hero.

http://pyramid.blog-city.com/katrina_trip_short_timeline.htm

 
At 15 March, 2010 17:24, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Love the bit where he goes down to help after Katrina, Yeah like they need him.

Yeah, Bore-ass also claims he was a first responder on 9/11, as if his claims of heroism mean anything.

 
At 15 March, 2010 17:25, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Dave Kyte said...

You prove a positive you can not disprove a negative. It's a logic thing that you obviously are too mentally stunted to understand.

You meant to say, "You prove a positive, you can not prove a negative." Was that what you meant to say? See, I just corrected yet another major gap in your logic. You are welcome.

Now go back to your site, answer the questions I told you to answer earlier, do your homework like a good boy and then we will continue.

 
At 15 March, 2010 17:28, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

ConsDemo said...

Yeah, Bore-ass also claims he was a first responder on 9/11, as if his claims of heroism mean anything.

Normally I would not even waste time addressing somebody like you but this time I will make an exception: exactly where did I claim to have been a first responder on or after 9/11?

I would also like to state that someone who comes a month after an event hardly qualifies as a first responder - and I only went to the gulf a month after Katrina hit.

Furthermore, my name is Boris, not "Bore-ass". Learn to spell. Elementary spelling skills might lead you to better comprehension of text, which in turn might lead you to learning things, and that in turn might help you see the light... not any time soon, I would think, but some day.

 
At 15 March, 2010 18:23, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"You meant to say, "You prove a positive, you can not prove a negative." Was that what you meant to say? See, I just corrected yet another major gap in your logic. You are welcome."

No you have it wrong once again. I suggest you read up a little.

I can not disprove god, but that does not mean god exist. Same as if I can not disprove Russel's teapot it will not suddenly exist in space.

Same as I can not disprove the towers fell at free fall because they did not. it is a negative statement. I can prove they fell at a certain rate and that rate is nowhere near free-fall.

Some how I knew you were not bright enough to get this simple concept of logic. So the question come WHY? Why are you so un-bright as a person Bor-ass? Were you dropped on your head as a child. Maybe mercury poisoning in Russia when you were young. It's an important question, what makes people like you so lacking in normal thinking skills?

 
At 15 March, 2010 18:34, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Furthermore, my name is Boris, not "Bore-ass". Learn to spell. Elementary spelling skills might lead you to better comprehension of text,"

Well you sure can spell Free-Fall but you have no real understanding of the physical concept. That kind of skill would make you a good proof reader but not make you a good scientist.

That is the point, guys like you a lousy thinkers, it's the reason you can be suckered so easily. Typical dumb ass shit.

You asked us to prove you wrong (stupid) and then made a point about saying you can not prove a negative! Well is that not what you just asked us to do?

 
At 15 March, 2010 18:51, Anonymous New Yorker said...

You meant to say, "You prove a positive, you can not prove a negative." Was that what you meant to say? See, I just corrected yet another major gap in your logic. You are welcome.

That's nice, Boris. Now, do you plan on proving that 9/11 was an inside job? After 8 1/2 years, you must have a ton of damning evidence.


Normally I would not even waste time addressing somebody like you but this time I will make an exception

Who are you kidding? It's not like you have anything better to do with your life than endlessly address people here. It feeds your ego since posters here actually pay you some attention.

Furthermore, my name is Boris, not "Bore-ass". Learn to spell.

Seek professional help, Boris.

 
At 15 March, 2010 18:53, Blogger ConsDemo said...

I would not even waste time addressing somebody like you but this time I will make an exception

Like you have anything better to do. Heck, you spent your whole weekend waiting to respond to comments on this blog.

exactly where did I claim to have been a first responder on or after 9/11?

It was an exchange with Alex awhile back, you flew off the handle at some comment he made and claimed you were a first responder for 9/11 and Katrina.

Furthermore, my name is Boris, not "Bore-ass".

No, you are a bore and an ass. The spelling is intentional and appropriate. If you don't like it, well, too bad. You slander others with far worse accusations, so stop whining.

 
At 15 March, 2010 18:55, Blogger ConsDemo said...

New Yorker, you beat me to the punch! Then again, everyone has Bore-ass figured out!

 
At 15 March, 2010 20:10, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

ConsDemo said...

exactly where did I claim to have been a first responder on or after 9/11?

It was an exchange with Alex awhile back, you flew off the handle at some comment he made and claimed you were a first responder for 9/11 and Katrina.


Oh, yeah, I remember - this blog used to have a comment system that required no authentication. Was that when that alleged exchange took place? So naturally some low-lives took to impersonating me - I am surprised same low-lives didn't admit to mass murder on my behalf while they were busy slandering me.

Well, naturally, that thought most likely hardly occurred to you, did it? No wonder you believe the official 9/11 fairy tale - the gullible ignorant types are indeed easy to fool and manipulate.

 
At 15 March, 2010 20:20, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

New Yorker said...

That's nice, Boris. Now, do you plan on proving that 9/11 was an inside job? After 8 1/2 years, you must have a ton of damning evidence.

And exactly where do I claim that 9/11 was an inside job? I only claim that that the official story of 9/11 is not worth the papaer it is written on. And of that there is ample proof.

 
At 15 March, 2010 20:25, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

Dave Kyte said...

Why are you so un-bright as a person Bor-ass? Were you dropped on your head as a child. Maybe mercury poisoning in Russia when you were young. It's an important question, what makes people like you so lacking in normal thinking skills?

Dave,

Why are you insults so predictable? Why are you always failing to present an argument on the merit, to answer the opponent's questions and never fail to come up with some sophomoric insults?

And let me repeat the bonus questions:

1) How old are you?

2) Is English your first language?

 
At 15 March, 2010 21:07, Anonymous New Yorker said...

I only claim that that the official story of 9/11 is not worth the papaer it is written on. And of that there is ample proof.

OK, so present that proof.

 
At 16 March, 2010 00:20, Blogger Boris Epstein said...

New Yorker said...

I only claim that that the official story of 9/11 is not worth the papaer it is written on. And of that there is ample proof.

OK, so present that proof.


I have, more times than I can count. Go to my blogs and read it.

 
At 16 March, 2010 06:24, Anonymous New Yorker said...

I have, more times than I can count. Go to my blogs and read it.

Wow, color me surprised that you don't have any proof! And I thought you might be different from all the other lunatics and liars and con-men that make up the "truth" movement.

Seek professional help, Boris.

 
At 16 March, 2010 08:10, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Why are you insults so predictable? Why are you always failing to present an argument on the merit, to answer the opponent's questions and never fail to come up with some sophomoric insults?"

I am only stating fact here, conspiracy theorist are sold to stupid people. Smarter people don't by it. Been that way forever, you don't like it because you are one of the suckers who bought the snake oil and now people like me are laughing at you.

 

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