Brian Good Chickens Out On Debate With Willie Rodriguez
It was only two weeks ago that Brian Good issued this challenge:
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me--not here, not in person, not anywhere on the internet, and not on Carol's program. That's because he knows better than anyone that he's a liar and a fraud.
As I wrote last week, Willie offered to debate Brian right here at Screw Loose Change (allegedly part of the internet the last time I checked). And suddenly Brian started making clucking noises and pecking at the ground. I guess we all know who's the liar and the fraud, eh?
Brian's most disgusting trick has been to request that the debate take place on Carol Brouillet's radio show. Brian wrote:
I offered a debate taking place on Carol's radio program. The reason for this is that Willie lies, and he hides behind Carol's skirts, and he would surely raise untrue ad hominem attacks on me with no regard for the potential damage to Carol. So she needs to have edit power over the debate.
Of course, Carol wants nothing to do with Brian, who exhibited typical stalker behavior by claiming that she was having sex with everybody but him. Here's a quote from an email she wrote:
Sadly, Brian is totally obsessed with attacking Kevin Barrett and William (and indirectly- me). It started when he came to the erroneous conclusion that I was in love with Kevin and had a sexual affair with him (and possibly others- including John Wright- he even insinuated that William shared my bed when William was out for the event we did in 2007). He blames William and Barrett for ending our friendship- when his mistrust of me and Brian's bad judgement and jealous attacks of Kevin and William were the main catalysts for my cutting all contact with him.
When caught on this, Brian shifted to demanding a debate on Visibility 911. Willie contacted Michael Wolsey, who hosts that program and the response was pretty simple. "We'd love to have you on the show, Willie, but why would we include Brian? He's a nobody."
Which is probably the response we all should have. Brian's certainly given us some amusement over the years, with his rakeonrake and meatball on a fork meanderings, but in the end he's just a footsoldier in the idiot brigade.
It kind of reminds me of Sibel Edmonds' demand that she get live airtime on a major network to tell us all that she knows; as you can imagine the networks have laughed at that suggestion. Of course, Brian Good is 1/1000000th as important as Sibel, so he can't even get on a conspiracy theory podcast.
Labels: Brian Good, Debate Challenge, Willie Rodriguez
posted by Pat @ 10:02 AM
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Who wants to bet that Brian will respond by insisting that he never agreed to a debate anywhere but Carol's show, and that she secretly loves him and he needs to protect her from the lie of Willie Rodriguez.
Opening at $50.
Poor SLC, running banner headlines about nobodies.
At the time I said that Willie didn't have the guts to debate me it had been true for almost 4 years.
So Willie gets together with his JREF buddies at SLC, and since I've been making such complete fools of all the commenteers here, SLC and Willie decide they can team up and solve both their problems.
I irrefutably punked W-Fraud in
three sentences:
1. You stole the story of Pablo Ortiz, a 9/11 hero who saved dozens of people by breaking down doors and letting trapped people out and who died himself when WTC1 fell down.
2. Your claim that you saved hundreds is verified by no one, proven by death statistics to be untrue, and depends on a belief that any fireman, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see in an instant is a lie--the notion that people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for an Angel of God with a Key of Hope to come and set them free.
3. Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
After that, there's really nothing to debate other than: Is Brian Good a 100% shit-head or only a 66% shit-head and 34% fart-head?
Everybody who expressed an opinion to me said that a SLC-sponsored debate was a bad idea. Thanks for validating my concern about the potential damage to Willie's human shields--you make me doubly glad I didn't let you bully me into a dumb deal.
Oh well, I got one right. Better luck next time.
"...and since I've been making such complete fools of all the commenteers [SIC] here..."
Not only is Brian "goat molester" Good a coward who hides behind Carol Brouillet's skirt, he's a delusional, illiterate, lying coward who hides behind Carol Brouillet's skirt.
%^)
Good job, goat molester, you showed us.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot. My bad.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
OMG!! bin laden had himself cloned before his demise,bini will be a lot harder to find!
youtube.com/watch?v=5HE9k9kYm1I
"Everybody who expressed an opinion to me said that a SLC-sponsored debate was a bad idea. "
Well Duh! Of course it would, but only because you would be part of it, you are the poster boy for everything that is wrong with truthers. Low IQ, ample gullibility, prime example of a useless talent less gutless mommies boy. As a group of people truthers are as low as they come, and you are by even their opinion totally useless as even a truther, that would make any person with even a modicum of self respect want to hide in shame. And yet you being so simple of mind don't even have what it takes to be embarrassed for yourself.
So you will come here because you can't go anywhere else, we will shit all over you and people on the fence will come here read what you have to say and come to the realization "these truthers ARE idiots, just look At this Brian Good guy"
So thank you Brian for being the hopeless gutless moron you are and proving what trash trutherism is.
It kind of reminds me of Sibel Edmonds' demand that she get live airtime on a major network to tell us all that she knows; as you can imagine the networks have laughed at that suggestion.
Interesting, isn't it? First they set an unrealistic standard, like major network airtime or a new 9/11 investigation with Subpoena Power. Then they live in anticipation of whatever implausible thing they've chosen for themselves.
Reminds me a little bit of Harold Camping. He's crazy, but at least he can commit to a date and time. Truthers can't even do that.
Ban.
I think Brian is no less a truther than any of the others.
Like them, his major feature is denial.
Ban
Poor SLC, running banner headlines about nobodies.
Yes, that's what this blog has been doing since day one: chronicling the insanity of nobodies like Jim Fetzer, Judy Wood, Steven Jones, Richard Gage, etc.
I suppose Alex Jones and David Ray Griffin aren't nobodies, but they're hardly household names.
So Willie gets together with his JREF buddies at SLC, and since I've been making such complete fools of all the commenteers here, SLC and Willie decide they can team up and solve both their problems.
Brian, if you've been making fools of us, how come you haven't gotten the "widows" their questions answered?
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Guys, don't call for Brian to be banned. He's got nowhere else to go, since all the truther sites have banned him. At least we can keep him around to be amused by things like smoldering carpets and meatball on a fork.
Brian, just do me a favor: please call us "girls". That's always my favorite line of yours, and you haven't done it in a while.
"At least we can keep him around to be amused by things like smoldering carpets and meatball on a fork."
Agreed, you never know what kind of shit this idiot will come up with next.
Should start a Twitter feed, "Brian Good Says" 140 characters of truther lunacy.
Speaking of Twittering Truthers
Truther Dating? Must be like those dating site for people with herpes.
http://twitter.com/#!/TrutherDating7
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Could somebody tell me this "meatball-on-a-fork" argument? I don't think I'm familiar with it.
Could somebody tell me this "meatball-on-a-fork" argument? I don't think I'm familiar with it.
I don't know if this is the first appearance, but the basic gist is here.
Guys, don't call for Brian to be banned. He's got nowhere else to go, since all the truther sites have banned him. At least we can keep him around to be amused by things like smoldering carpets and meatball on a fork.
He hasn't come up with anything as clever as smoldering carpets and meatball on a fork in a long long time. All he's done is become repetitive, obsessive, and creepy.
And I don't give a fuck if he's got nowhere else to go. That's his fault. If he wants to be accepted somewhere, he could try not being an asshole.
It's time to pull the plug on The Brian Good Show. We can't even discuss a topic anymore, because the minute Brian shows up it's all DURR KEVIN BARRETT DURR CAROL BROUILLET SHOW DURR I PWNED WILLIE RODRIGUEZ DURR I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I DURRRRRRRRRR.
What was once a spicy ingredient now ruins the whole stew. And as the sick depths of Brian's sexual obsession reveal themselves, I'm starting to lose my appetite completely.
Ban.
What was once a spicy ingredient now ruins the whole stew. And as the sick depths of Brian's sexual obsession reveal themselves, I'm starting to lose my appetite completely.
Nicely put. There's some value in having a village idiot around, but lately he's just disruptive without being interesting. Let him go be codependent somewhere else. At least until he comes up with some new material.
What was once a spicy ingredient now ruins the whole stew. And as the sick depths of Brian's sexual obsession reveal themselves, I'm starting to lose my appetite completely.
Ban.
Seconded.
lately he's just disruptive without being interesting. Let him go be codependent somewhere else. At least until he comes up with some new material.
RGT, he's always been disruptive, it's not a recent thing.
Also, coming up with new material is not the truther way nowadays. They've tried everything new, from pods to nanothermite, and have run out of ideas.
Even that doesn't matter to them; they simply ignore what you say and spew up shit that was debunked years ago.
It's not about (and never was) a serious look at any government skullduggery in 9-11, it is a place for those with massive insecurity problems to sling shit at anyone they choose, boast how great they are, and how the rest of the population are sheep.
Fuck 'em, and fuck Brian.
Ban.
He hasn't come up with anything as clever as smoldering carpets and meatball on a fork in a long long time. All he's done is become repetitive, obsessive, and creepy.
Good point.
Brian, Laurie Van Auken told me she'd like you to talk about something else besides the widows questions and Willie Rodriguez. Can you do that?
For example, why do you think Harold Camping was wrong about the end of the world last Saturday?
I think this has been a banner week for Brian.
Pat gets Willie Rodriguez to agree to debate Brian, and Brian has a full-on paranoid psychotic break claiming that it's not the real Willie, there's no way to prove that it's Willie, and he would believe it even if the debate were face to face. Then he says that the only way he'd debate Willie is on "my friend Carol's" radio show - SO THAT SHE CAN CAREFULLY EDIT THE DEBATE. So while Brian considers himself a beacon for justice and truth he's not an actual fan of the truth as it applies to him.
Then Arcterus shows up. Pat compliments his writing on his blog. Brian blows a gasket because:
A: Arcterus had the nerve to walk away from the Truth Movement due to the lack of facts.
B: At the age of 20 Arcterus seems to be an above average person on his way to great things.
So Brian goes after Arcterus by claiming that his writing isn't clear because he uses too many useless words, and his structure doesn't adhere to some obscure theory of writing that he got out of a magazine.
I checked the bay area news sites for reports of a Palo Alto man running around traffic in a gold lame jockstrap, swim fins, and a football helmet because I'm sure Brian was going to lose his last marble.
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Ian, it's quite clear that you like being called a girl. That's why you solicit it by acting like an 8-year-old girl who thinks saying stupid things is cute.
TR, actually I think it was Weidlinger Associates that pointed out that dust shaken down from the suspended ceiling (not to mention fireproof ceiling panels) would inhibit the burning of carpets. It's not my fault that you guys are ignorant of the facts, and unwilling to think the issues through.
TR, RGT, paul w, they can't ban me. That would be admitting defeat. You're supposed to be able to defeat my arguments. So I guess not one of you knows enough about the construction of the WTC to be able to explain why the NRDC's claim that all 424,000 tons of WTC concrete was pulverized is absurd?
MGF, I claimed there was no reason to believe that was the real Willie, and there wasn't. WhitePages tells us there are 1140 William Rodriguezes in the USA, and every one of them has the right to sign up for a google account named "William_Rodriguez".
I proposed a debate on Carol's radio show so she would have edit power, because I feared that Willie would introduce material that reflected poorly on her. And subsequent events have proved I was right to have such concerns.
As to Arcterus, why should I care if someone repents of his kooky conspiracy theories and exits the truth movement? Good riddance! He may or may not be headed for great things, and so what if he is? Great things are easy if that's what you're willing to settle for. As a writer he's just entering the foothills.
As to running around in your fetishist fantasy, one of the blessings of maturity is that one needn't freak out over trifles. "Il n'y a que la vérité qui blesse."
TR, RGT, paul w, they can't ban me. That would be admitting defeat. You're supposed to be able to defeat my arguments. So I guess not one of you knows enough about the construction of the WTC to be able to explain why the NRDC's claim that all 424,000 tons of WTC concrete was pulverized is absurd?
Same old, same old.
Ban.
I proposed a debate on Carol's radio show so she would have edit power
Can someone please tell me why there would be any need to edit a debate?
Moreover, why Brian thinks that the editing of the debate would be in his favor?
Brian, when are you going to enlighten us as to why the 424,000 pulverized tons of bla bla bla bla bla is abusurd?
So you admit that a challenge that neither you nor anyone else here at SLC has been able to answer is "same old, same old".
And that the only way you can deal with it is banishment.
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roo, the need to edit the debate is because for years the con artist Willie Rodriguez and the bigot Kevin Barrett have been hiding behind the skirts of Carol Brouillet.
I have no reason to think that an editing of the debate would be in my favor. The editing of the debate would be in Carol's favor, but I am confident that I can prove that Willie Rodriguez is a lying scumbag--because I've already done it.
Brian,
Explain when a debate is edited, and why? Have you ever participated in a debate in your life? And yelling at inanimate objects is not a debate.
Thank you for recognizing that Willie Rodriguez, Kevin Barrett, and their sock puppets are inanimate objects.
Don't duck the question, stupid....Why would a debate need to be edited, and when would the editing take place?
I already told you. The debate would need to be edited to remove Willie's cowardly lies involving Carol Brouillet--which have nothing to do with the fact that he stole his hero story from Pablo Ortiz, and that he is a lying con artist.
Brian,
A debate is in real time...there is no editing. That's the point I was hoping you would absorb.
You are also delusional...but that is not a new development.
Real time media are not appropriate for dealings with people who will lie. Countering lies requires time for research.
TR, RGT, paul w, they can't ban me. That would be admitting defeat.
That's why Wikipedia banned you? You defeated them?
"Real time media are not appropriate for dealings with people who will lie. Countering lies requires time for research."
You do your research before, It's all about presenting a logical believable argument. I real time the listeners can get a real feel for the intelligence and knowledge of the debaters, so you would look bad in real time, Willie or myself or anyone else he would show you to be the retarded nobody you are.
Is that the problem Brian? if people heard you they would realize you ARE a mentally defective janitor level human?
Brian the only reason you are around is you are such a useful idiot.
All the discussions of science, physics and politics surrounding 9/11 have been established, and the truthers have lost. The only issue remaining is the question of why are there still a small band of delusional people who buy the conspiracy theorist crap. What defect of mind or character makes some people so wrong? you guys are like the Rapture clowns, no one of real importance believes them or you.
People like you are an aid to debunkers. We could get into long ago debunked ideas put forth by truthers, OR simply point to you and ask people if they really want to be like Brian Good? Ignorant, devoid of any skills, no life, sponging off mom and dad?
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RGT, what makes you think wikipedia banned me? 'Cause some anonymous internet poster (who thinks anyone who points out that Willie is a liar must be Brian Good) said so?
DK, I'm fully prepared to discuss Willie Rodriguez's lies, the destructive nature of his cult-following, and his discrediting effect on the truth movement. The research is done, and I have demolished his case forever in 3 (three) sentences.
Willie is a magician, a master of distraction. I can not anticipate what distractions his sociopathic and probably psychotic mind may concoct.
DK, I wish your facile claims that the truthers have lost were true, and then I could go back to my selfish pursuits. Until the 28 redacted pages are released, Condi is censured for perjury, the financial backers of the alleged hijackers are identified, the WTC reports are made consistent with the laws of physics, and a credible account of NORAD's inaction is released there hasn't even been a contest, and the truthers' observation that there's been a coverup is irrefutable.
Brain,
Just admit you are afraid of WRod and afraid to look like a fool in public (too late).
what makes you think wikipedia banned me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Wtcsurvivor/Archive
Note the presence of IP 63.199.155.82, the address reference by Willie Rodriguez in the prior debate thread.
It's full of the usual Brian Good inanity. For those who don't want to read the whole thing, here's the punchline:
This request pertains to a long-running dispute on the William Rodriguez article, with Wtcsurvivor (and socks) and Contrivance both tendacious (sic) editing behavior. The problems also extend to the Kevin Barrett and Carol Brouillet articles.
Sound like anyone we know?
Ban.
Roo, why should I be afraid of Willie? All I'm afraid of is failing to adequately ensure the protection of innocent third parties when a psychotic fraudster going down for the third time exercises the Samson option and endangers his human shields.
TR, I share a DHCP connection with dozens of people. To suppose that I'm the only one in my network that knows that Willie is a liar is as loony as thinking that I'm the only one on the internet who knows it.
Let Brian go be codependent somewhere else.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codependency#Inverted_narcissists
"...TR, I share a DHCP connection with dozens of people."
That's a bald-faced lie.
Shall I explain to everyone why you're lying, goat molester?
Can some one get Carol's blessing that Brian debate WRod on this site?
Sure, Brian. There are lots of people who share your IP address, your "Contrivance" handle, and your three-pronged obsession with Willie Rodriguez, Kevin Barrett, and Carol Brouillet.
Ban.
In fact, if Pat and James don't ban Brian after this thread, they can go ahead and ban me. Because I'm through with this.
cbrouillet@igc.org
Can some one get Carol's blessing that Brian debate WRod on this site?
No. That is exactly what Brian wants. He is obsessed with Carol and wants to be involved in Carol's life in any way possible, including forcing third parties to contact her on his behalf regarding a debate with someone whom he views as thwarting his relationship with her.
If we did that, we'd just be assisting a sex stalker.
Ban.
DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) automatically assigns an IP address from an ISP designated IP address pool (the DHCP pool of IP addresses may consist of non-routable or routable IP); as a result, DHCP prevents two or more computers from being assigned the same IP address. Thus, it's impossible to "share a DHCP connection with dozens of people."
Trite, see my PM at JREF.
GutterBall, thanks for proving my point. I share a pool of IP addresses with dozens of people. I know for a fact that an IP address I use has also been used by others.
I wish your facile claims that the truthers have lost were true, and then I could go back to my selfish pursuits.
Mopping floors? You have no talent for doing more.
Trutherism is YOUR entire life exactly because you are such a dullard, of both mind and skills. To bad your ignorance made you chose such a losing cause.
The observation that ALL truthers to a man be it you or Willie are gullible benighted individuals is irrefutable.
That's right, goat fucker, continue to lie about a subject you know nothing about.
You may be assigned a DHCP address by a firewall, however, the IP address is non-routable (192.168.xxx.xxx or 10.xxx.xxx.xxx). Thus, any packet originating from behind the firewall will be assigned the IP address of the routing firewall's outgoing network interface card (NIC), which in your case has the IP address 63.199.155.82.
That explains why your IP Address never changes. If you were really using DHCP, your IP address would change every time you logged in to your ISP--and that simply isn't happening.
Don't fuck with me, goat fucker. This is my area of expertise, and you don't stand a chance.
" I share a pool of IP addresses with dozens of people."
Another fine example of Brian's ample ignorance of a complex subject.
The idea you ISP would assign you an IP address that was or is going to be used by someone who even knows who WR is or care who he is, and who would chose to come here or any other web site is not impossible, but so astronomical as to be laughable. But a janitor level guy like you would not know that. Chances are you have had the same IP for months.
$ nslookup -sil 63.199.155.82
Non-authoritative answer:
82.155.199.63.in-addr.arpa name = adsl-63-199-155-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Busted lying again, goat fucker. There's no such thing as a DHCP address that's assigned a reverse lookup address (in-addr.arpa).
Do you ever stop lying, goat fucker?
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Various metals (most notably iron and lead) were melted during the WTC
Event, producing spherical metallic particles. Exposure of phases to high
heat results in the formation of spherical particles due to surface tension.
Figure 21 and Figure 22 show a spherical iron particle resulting from the
melting of iron (or steel).
-R.J. Lee Report
GutterBall, I know for a fact that stuff has been posted from my IP address that I didn't post.
DK, you seem to be missing the fact that I'm a social person, I talk to people, several dozen people live in my building, and I have no control over what people might be curious about on the internet.
Bill, Brian is not lying. He actually doesn't know this stuff, he is not or never will be bright enough for this sort of stuff. Ergo, he sweeps floors and can't even make enough to leave home, at 60 years old no less!
His next post will say something to the effect he knew about IP address when he was six.
nslookup -sil adsl-63-199-155-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: adsl-63-199-155-82.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Address: 63.199.155.82
You're lying again, goat fucker. nslookup doesn't lie. You're not using a DHCP address. The IP address is static, and it's configured for forward and reverse lookup; thus, your IP address cannot possibly originate from a DHCP server.
FAIL.
"...GutterBall, I know for a fact that stuff has been posted from my IP address that I didn't post."
Read my post at 11:26 again, cretin.
And this time read the post instead of using your twisted "mind" to formulate the next lie.
So Brian, Everyone in you building share an internet connection from ONE router?
You better ask your mom how this works, no doubt they pay for your internet.
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DK, last time I checked, everyone shared one router. And I know for a fact that stuff has been posted on the internet using my IP address that I didn't post.
Again, Brian has derailed the thread with his gift for obsessing over the details while completely missing the point, and being wrong about the details.
I don't fucking care what Internet protocol Brian's ISP uses, the point is that no other person on earth could possibly have his peculiar set of obsessions.
"I don't fucking care what Internet protocol Brian's ISP uses, the point is that no other person on earth could possibly have his peculiar set of obsessions."
So now we have to believe everyone in Brian's mom and dad building are obsessed with WR. That is truly stupid. This building must be the home for sexually obsessed truthers.
Half-way houses often have people using 1 IP. No shock here.
Of course you share a router, and its IP address is 63.199.155.82. Thus, every packet that originates from behind that particular router is assigned the IP address 63.199.155.82 (the IP address of the router's outgoing network interface card (NIC)).
Triterope is correct. The odds against someone in your building having the same obsession is astronomical. Thus, the claim that "I know for a fact that stuff has been posted on the internet using my IP address that I didn't post" is irrelevant because it goes without saying that the IP address of the router is shared.
So we see once again how well Brian serve his roll as the useful idiot. He in his infinite ignorance blusters about how he is being mistakes for someone else, not knowing anything about IP he get it wrong once again, and again proves the skeptics point about how uneducated 9/11 truthers are as people.
Even people sympathetic to the truther cause will read this and think, "Maybe debunkers are right, all truthers are low brow morons, just look at this Brian guy"
And there is an easy cure for this. Brian could get much smarter than he is now, he could get a real job the added intelligence would afford him. He could move out from moms house, get a life, pay for a real DSL of cable internet connection.
But it's very unlikely this will happen to a guy with a room temperature IQ like Brian.
And there is an easy cure for this.
Yes. Ban.
So now we have to believe everyone in Brian's mom and dad building are obsessed with WR.
And express these obsessions in exactly the same way, in the same places, with the same usernames. And that they never talk to each other.
Ban.
Brian is hijacking this site. He has done his job showing how insane the remaining truthers are. He serves no other purpose.
I third the ban. (Or am I the fourth or fifth concurrence?)
I think a ban might actually be advantageous to his mental health.
Thirded. Anyone for a fourth?
Fourthed.
So none of you has bothered to find out enough about the construction of the WTC to know why the NRDC's claim was absurd that all 424,000 tons of WTC concrete was pulverized?
Hey, it's not my fault that you'd rather gossip about me than discuss facts.
Yes, I bothered, and found that you're full-of-shit.
You're just trying to change the subject and hijack another thread.
And isn't it convenient that the Dust Boy shows up just in time to help the goat fucker hijack another thread? I smell a rat--a grey haired, balding, shiny pated pervert of a rat.
Ban.
Maybe we should get Brian's mom to sign a letter acknowledging she has allowed her poor retarded son to post on the SLC site and absolving us of any harm he may do to himself if he is kicked off yet another site.
We are dealing with a person of obvious infantile mental capacity. Don’t want to be accused of taking advantage of a simpleton.
RGT, what makes you think wikipedia banned me?
Because Wikipedia says you were. Temporarily, anyway. You were obsessed with little Chinese gymnasts for a while.
And why do I think 63.199.155.82 is you? Because somebody at the same IP is interested in William Rodriguez, Kevin Barrett, Cynthia McKinney, Cindy Sheehan, the 9/11 Commission, and how to seduce women.
It's possible that everybody in your building shares a single DSL connection. But I doubt it. I'd sooner believe that whatever homeless male prostitute kid you had living with you at the time made those posts.
"You're supposed to be able to defeat my arguments."
What arguments?
He does have a history of backing out
Brian Good fails to accept CIT debate challenge, but vows to continue attacks
"QUOTE (Brian Good)
I'm not going to debate the north side approach. My position has always been that the north side testimony is very interesting and persuasive, as is its implication that much of the Pentagon damage was faked. Why would I want to refute my own position?"
"We can argue about the implications of the north side approach. Your belief that the north side approach proves flyover is irrational, unjustified, and extremely discrediting to the truth movement. I know I'm not the first person to tell you this."
Quote: Craig Ranke
"So in a fascinating psychological display of disassociation from reality Brian Good was simultaneously accusing me of running from debate while he was failing to accept my challenge to debate!"
If you want a deep look into how the mind of this very abrasive and illogical man operates I highly recommend you read this.
"Brian Good's typical online forum persona is actually what you might expect from a bullied teenager who gets online and feels comfortable lashing out by acting tough behind a computer screen. Brian Good acted completely different in person. Of course if anyone acted like he does online in person they would be thrown out of the room."
This is funny too
http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=1092
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RGT, as far as I know everybody in the building shares the same IP address.
DK, Craig "Nike" Ranke has fled from debate with me every single time, at least six times in all. He rescinded a challenge to debate when I wanted time to promote it beforehand--I think he wanted to have it quickly and furtively because I was kicking his scrawny ass so often and so thoroughly that my leg was getting tired.
That is funny. It shows Craig trying to pass off part of a debate as the whole thing--just as I had predicted he would. He initially "forgot" to include the end where he simply accused me of raising the same points others had already raised, and then without refuting them, ran away hollering insults.
yawn.....
Everybody!! look at the great podium from Richard Gage!!! and also Brian Good's commission Book behind him. Yep, Brian built it and carries it around in a truck.
http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/b/0/9/e/highres_5445214.jpeg
now, look at this photo of Brian holding the 9/11 flag...
http://www.meetup.com/sftruthaction/photos/714888/10818238/
And now, see who is marching next to him!!!!! now Brian, explains that one , you gay stalker.
http://www.meetup.com/sftruthaction/photos/714888/10818237/
I already debated Willie right here. I irrefutably punked him in
three sentences:
1. You stole the story of Pablo Ortiz, a 9/11 hero who saved dozens of people by breaking down doors and letting trapped people out and who died himself when WTC1 fell down.
2. Your claim that you saved hundreds is verified by no one, proven by death statistics to be untrue, and depends on a belief that any fireman, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see in an instant is a lie--the notion that people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for an Angel of God with a Key of Hope to come and set them free.
3. Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
He ran away leaving sabba to lie and claim victory.
Willie Rodriguez lying Yenta and Bitch, Brian Good, aka: Punsuxtawneybarney in youtube, Petgoat at DU forums, Truetruther in youtube, Contrivance and others in Wikipedia, poordumbbastard at 9/11 truth groups, Snug .bug here etc etc etc.
Says:He ran away leaving sabba to lie and claim victory.
Buawahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Squeal, Brian Good, Squeal!!!!!
Willie made you his bitch now!
BITCH!
Did you like the photos ?
Did you like the photos ?
Not the last one.
Definately not the last one.
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Well I'm flattered, sabba. Two of those photos are of guys at least 20 years younger than me.
paul w, what's wrong with the last one? Those yellow boots are kind of a turn-on!
RGT, what makes you think wikipedia banned me? 'Cause some anonymous internet poster (who thinks anyone who points out that Willie is a liar must be Brian Good) said so?
We know you were banned by wikipedia because you, as contrivance, were banned by wikipedia. This is not hard, Brian.
Roo, why should I be afraid of Willie?
I don't know. Nobody here could possibly begin to understand you diseased mind.
But you are obviously afraid of him, which is why you won't debate him. You just post endless dumbspam about the man all over the internet.
GutterBall, thanks for proving my point. I share a pool of IP addresses with dozens of people. I know for a fact that an IP address I use has also been used by others.
Brian, you have no point. You've just been pwn3d once again.
Brian, maybe you should have a ghostwriter do all your internet battles for you? You know, someone with more intelligence than a failed janitor like you? Just a thought.
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Not the last one.
Definately not the last one.
Oh christ, I'm going to have PTSD after looking at that one.
But your obession with Willie Rodriguez is not homosexual, Brian. No, definitely not.
@Willie Rodriguez lying Yenta and Bitch, Brian Good, aka: Punsuxtawneybarney in youtube, Petgoat at DU forums, Truetruther in youtube, Contrivance and others inWikipedia, poordumbbastard at 9/11 truth groups,Snug .bug here etc etc etc.
I am glad you liked them Bitch! more on the way! of course , we are working on our version of them but I promise they will be posted.
Not the last one.
Definately not the last one.
Marching right next to both of you. Queers for the truth!
Fuck it. Count me in.
Ban.
That's five. Six going once, six going twice...
Well you know what they say, "If you don't like the news, go out and grow some of your own."
Well you know what they say, "If you don't like the news, go out and grow some of your own."
Brian, perhaps you say that because you're an insane failed janitor, but nobody who has a grasp on reality says that.
Anyway, if you want to talk about something else, we can. Can you tell me why you think "widows" have questions?
Don't give him any ideas. The next thing you know, websites with domain names like
buttpriratesfor911truth.org
insanesfgaysfor911truth.org
and
rectumrobbersfor911truth.org
will appear.
Don't give him any ideas...
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
GutterBall gives a lot of thought to gay stuff (I never heard of a "felcher" until he said I was one).
He gives much more thought to it than he gives to the question of why the NRDC's claim is absurd that all 424,000 tons of WTC concrete was pulverized.
Ian, I think the widows still have questions because they refer to them here:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/01/31/911-family-members-demand-answers-from-the-911-commission-the-censored-testimony-of-fbi%E2%80%99s-behrooz-sarshar/
and here:
http://visibility911.com/jongold/?cat=91
and here:
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php
and here:
http://www.911independentcommission.org/
RGT, as far as I know everybody in the building shares the same IP address.
Do you deny that you made the edits about William Rodriguez, Kevin Barrett, Cynthia McKinney, Cindy Sheehan, the 9/11 Commission, and how to seduce women?
March 3, 2009?
nothing more recent?
When are you going to call the widows?
When are you going to call C-Span?
@RGT, I love your AVATAR!
LOL!
Yep, RGT's new avatar is a keeper.
Shut the fuck up, goat molester.
I've proven that your idea's are bullshit--you lying snotgobbler.
The NRDC's paper and testimony are a matter of public record and were cited by the RJ Lee Report and, above all, were used in a federal trial, where the evidence was subjected to discovery and judged to be viable and unassailable expert testimony.
Once again, you FAIL.
Grade: F-
Ian, I think the widows still have questions because they refer to them here:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/01/31/911-family-members-demand-answers-from-the-911-commission-the-censored-testimony-of-fbi%E2%80%99s-behrooz-sarshar/
and here:
http://visibility911.com/jongold/?cat=91
and here:
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php
and here:
http://www.911independentcommission.org/
What makes you think these people are widows? Did Willie Rodriguez tell you that?
Also, Brian, when you came up with "meatball on a fork" and "rake-on-rake", were you high on model airplane glue or rubber cement?
Well you know what they say, "If you don't like the news, go out and grow some of your own."
What the fuck does that even mean?
Ban.
OT:
The usual truther crap, this time from 'News One ; for Black America':
http://newsone.com/newsone-original/samalesh/the-11-most-compelling-911-conspiracy-theories/
Yup, the Jews knew.
Brian has won every debate he's ever engaged in.
And ducked out of every one he's been offered.
I am fine with debating Willie in a moderated forum where the interests of innocent third parties will be protected. I have been debating Willie for almost four years now, and he has been running away all that time, refusing to answer questions. The pattern continues. He has no interest in debating me in a moderated neutral forum. He doesn't have the guts.
"...I am fine with debating Willie in a moderated forum where the interests of innocent third parties will be protected."
Shut up, goat fucker. You don't give a damn about anyone but yourself.
"...I have been debating Willie for almost four years now..."
You've done nothing of the sort. You hide behind Carol Broulliet's skirt and hurl mud, while you weasel out of every debate challenge that comes your way.
http://s3.invisionfree.com/CIT/ar/t1094.htm
"...The pattern continues."
Yes, "the pattern continues." You call for "debate," while you demand conditions that can't be met in order for the debate to proceed; you continue to hide behind Carol Broulliet's skirt; you continue to pat yourself on the back and claim "victory," while you steadfastly refuse to debate when challenged.
Yes, the pattern of lying and fraud on the part of Brian "goat molester" Good continues unabated and shows absolutely no sign of improvement.
FAIL.
UtterFail, your belief that I hide behind Carol's skirts is amusing when I have offered, and continue to offer, to debate Willie on Carol's radio show.
Your claim that I hurl mud is amusing, coming from someone who insists on repeatedly citing a litany of lies about me attributed to an anonymous internet poster (whose style much resembles that of the more recent sabba here), and who also seems to be not only dumb enough to believe it, but also lacks the critical thinking skills to recognize that he's embarrassing himself with a clear case of confirmation bias in doing so.
I punk'd Willie in 3 irrefutable sentences. He's never going to debate me. He doesn't have the guts, and the claim that I refused to debate him is the only argument he's got.
You always must have the last word, right, goat fucker?
Never mind that he challenged you to a debate here at SLC, and you squirmed out of the challenge like a weasel. Willie the Rod is the bad guy because YOU squirmed out of the debate.
You're a psychopath.
I didn't squirm out of anything. The advice I got from my truth movement colleagues was universally against the idea of debating at SLC, though one well-known person offered to moderate on Carol's radio show.
Pat's threat to publish emails from third parties suggested to me that he only wished to embarrass as many truthers as possible.
Willie the Fraud is a bad guy because he's a lying con artist who stole his story from a real hero, and because for four years he has refused to answer simple questions, responding only with promises for grandiose confrontations involving movie crews, family members, and multimedia circuses.
Willie Rodriguez's lying Yenta and Bitch, Brian Good, aka: Punsuxtawneybarney in youtube, Petgoat at DU forums, Truetruther in youtube, Contrivance and others inWikipedia, poordumbbastard at 9/11 truth groups,Snug .bug here etc etc etc. says:
Willie the Fraud is a bad guy because he's a lying con artist who stole his story from a real hero, and because for four years he has refused to answer simple questions, responding only with promises for grandiose confrontations involving movie crews, family members, and multimedia circuses.
Brian Good is a bad guy who claims NIST lied, who claims Carol got it wrong. Who claims that he never stalked anybody. Who defame others and then get scared on a debate because he "wants to protect others" of supposed lies.
Rodriguez does not have the time you may have to spend on the Internet stalking people, but he did offered to face you and did it here forfeiting any rights to image, and not even wanting to edit the truth out of the debate, something you seem to have a problem with. Mr. Truth, you are not. You have no guts Brian Good.
Willie Rodriguez's lying Yenta and Bitch, Brian Good, aka: Punsuxtawneybarney in youtube, Petgoat at DU forums, Truetruther in youtube, Contrivance and others inWikipedia, poordumbbastard at 9/11 truth groups,Snug .bug here etc etc etc. says:
...responding only with promises for grandiose confrontations involving movie crews, family members, and multimedia circuses.
I see, it is ok for you to libel and defame people on the INTERNET but when you have the opportunity to face them... you run away. I seem to understand now a little more, If willie brings family members, it will make you look like the ass you are. I bet you 100 bucks, those family members he will bring may be connected to Pablo Ortiz. Wanna bet? oh I forgot!! you don't bet against sure bets against you!
Bitch!
"[C]onfirmation bias" is your middle name, goat fucker.
In fact, you're so dishonest and underhanded that you would have us believe Willie the Rod "doesn't have the guts, and the claim that I refused to debate him is the only argument he's got." This bogus claim, however, is proven to be a lie by simply taking the obvious into consideration. Willie the Rod challenged you to a debate; yet the debate never occurred because you YOU refused to "debate" unless certain conditions, which you specified under the false pretense of "protecting the innocent", were met before the "debate" could proceed. This is pure fraud and cowardice writ large.
Once again, you FAIL.
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Careless of the health of the truth movement, Willie the Fraud challenged to debate in a context sponsored by people he knew through his JREF connections.
For four years now Willie has been running and hiding from my questions, including in an email list that included Jones and Griffin and Gage and Reprehensor.
His claims that we should just "wait 'til next year" when he can mount a multimedia extravaganza are just baloney.
I have no false pretenses. "First, do no harm" is my credo. Go ahead, call me coward. I don't care. Refusing the SLC debate was the right thing. Apparently Willie had no interest in any other forum. Why would that be?
oh the lies!!!
Rodriguez called your bluff more than once and you kept changing the places every time he exposed you. You credo is bullshit as is your concern for others.
From Willie Rodriguez's Lying Bitch on words:
"First, do no harm" is my credo. Go ahead, call me coward. I don't care. Refusing the SLC debate was the right thing.
COWARD!!!!!
BRIAN GOOD IS A COWARD!!!!
wait! we knew that already!! he just confirmed it.
I'm willing to debate Willie in a forum where a responsible moderator can be found. Pat has shown that his intention is to generate the most damaging gossip possible about third parties, Willie has shown that he doesn't care about injuring third parties, and it would be irresponsible of me to participate in that.
I'm not going to pushed around by insults from anonymous internet posters.
For four years now Willie has been running and hiding from my questions...
Ironic how the tables have turned now yes?
I'm not hiding. Here I am. Willie stole his story from a dead 9/11 hero--how much shittier can a guy get?
He could run from a proposed debate against a person he claims stole his story from a dead hero, insisting that the debate can only happen in a way that allows him to stalk a woman, all the while claiming victory in the debate.
That would be shittier.
How is it stalking to ask that Carol be given the producer's edit over the debate?
You guys live on a carousel of circularly confirming biases.
I did win the debate. I punk'd him in three irrefutable sentences.
How is it stalking to ask that Carol be given the producer's edit over the debate?
Because Carol has previously stated in no uncertain terms that she does not want you in her life. Your constant demands that she take part in your stupid war against Willie Rodriguez meets the legal definition of stalking. Period. Read California penal code 646.9.
I did win the debate. I punk'd him in three irrefutable sentences.
Do you even know what a debate is, you incoherent loony? You don't just get to say whatever you want, declare victory, and leave.
Willie Rodriguez stalking bitch, Brian Good says: How is it stalking to ask that Carol be given the producer's edit over the debate?
Because you want to be connected with her even if she does not wants you.
Because you want her attention even if she wants to ignore you.
Because you are a sick motherfucker who enjoy involving your stalked victims into the circus of you being pawned.
Willie Rodriguez's lying Yenta and Bitch, Brian Good, aka: Punsuxtawneybarney in youtube, Petgoat at DU forums, Truetruther in youtube, Contrivance and others inWikipedia, poordumbbastard at 9/11 truth groups,Snug .bug here etc etc etc. says:
...responding only with promises for grandiose confrontations involving movie crews, family members, and multimedia circuses.
I see, it is ok for you to libel and defame people on the INTERNET but when you have the opportunity to face them... you run away. I seem to understand now a little more, If willie brings family members, it will make you look like the ass you are. I bet you 100 bucks, those family members he will bring may be connected to Pablo Ortiz. Wanna bet? oh I forgot!! you don't bet against sure bets against you!
Bitch!
wanna bet?
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Sabba, I didn't stalk or libel anyone. I called out William Rodriguez the 9/11 con artist as a liar and a fraud, and it's true. He stole his hero story from Pablo Ortiz and he lied about rescuing fifteen, about saving hundreds, about the 22 story collapse, and about being the last man out.
yeah right, and he didn't libel you either,
Calling you a stalker, a deranged sex maniac, a Carol Brouillet harraser, a liar, a defamer of heroes, and an idiot who will not face him on a debate.
He was also right about when he came here and challenged you.
You as asshole as you are, wanted to have the Debate edited! Rodriguez in drastic comparison offered the rights and forfeited any editing or claims to the video of the debate.
You cried then that you will do it at visibility911 and Rodriguez called your bluff.
Then you said 9/11blogger and Rodriguez called your bluff.
Finally you mentioned SF911Group and again Rodriguez called your bluff.
You will be remembered as the asshole who ran away from William Rodriguez and then claimed victory with 3 stupid questions you never dared to present on a debate.
Finally, it was in the last couple of threads that you started to post about the Pablo Ortiz Story, a new angle for you, and then you got pawned with the information of the NYTIMES. ( Reader can go back to the other threads and find out why).
You did not expect Rodriguez to invite the family here and I got an email from them. Guess what, they also do not agree with you, go ahead Brian call them, email them, do lunch, and prove us wrong. You will not.
Wanna bet?
Yes, sabba, I want the debate edited because Willie has shown again and again that he doesn't care about truth, about credibility, about the truth movement, about honor, and about harm to third parties.
That is why I must insist on responsible editing of any debate.
I did not bluff. I presented 3 sentences, not 3 questions, and they irrefutably expose Willie as a fraud:
1. You stole the story of Pablo Ortiz, a 9/11 hero who saved dozens of people by breaking down doors and letting trapped people out and who died himself when WTC1 fell down.
2. Your claim that you saved hundreds is verified by no one, proven by death statistics to be untrue, and depends on a belief that any fireman, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see in an instant is a lie--the notion that people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for an Angel of God with a Key of Hope to come and set them free.
3. Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
You're just repeating Willie's gambit from 2007--threatening to fly in the witnesses with a film crew and make a fool of me. Why not produce them now? Make a youtube.
Willie is a liar and a fraud. I feel sorry for him.
Brian Good, you are a fraud.
Yes, sabba, I want the debate edited because Willie has shown again and again that he doesn't care about truth, about credibility, about the truth movement, about honor, and about harm to third parties.
That is why I must insist on responsible editing of any debate.
this one is for the books of truthers!
Funny how you can hurl all your hate, insults and lies and when Rdriguez dares to challenge you and expose your lies you cowardly say...That is why I must insist on responsible editing of any debate.
COWARD Brian Good from Palo ALto California. ( just for google search of course, do not take it personally). heheheheh
Sabba, Willie knows where to find me.
He's known for almost four years now.
I punk'd him in 3 sentences. He's toast. Barrett is toast. Ranke is toast.
Willie stole his hero story from a dead 9/11 hero, Pablo Ortiz. Nothing can change that.
Willie stole his hero story from a dead 9/11 hero, Pablo Ortiz. Nothing can change that.
buawahahahahahahhahahaahha, prove it!
and also prove how willie would have done that on the same 9/11. Good luck with that bitch!
Who wants to bet that Brian will respond by insisting that he never agreed to a debate anywhere but Carol's show, and that she secretly loves him and he needs to protect her from the lie of Willie Rodriguez.
Let the record show that nobody was willing to bet that this wouldn't happen.
nwor
Brian, that should be your obituary.
Sabba, Willie knows where to find me.
He's known for almost four years now.
He offered to debate you, and you refused because you're a coward. Then you tried to bury it in dumbspam.
I punk'd him in 3 sentences. He's toast. Barrett is toast. Ranke is toast.
Brian, you're a failed janitor who wears women's underwear. You've never punk'd anyone. You're just a source of laughs for everyone.
Ian, the problem with Brian Good trying to bury the thread with dumbspan is very obvious to see. All we need to do is to go to youtube and see that everywhere he has posted about WR, there is an invitation by someone to come and google this thread and the one with "Brian good is a sex stalker", people will come here and see how he tries to bury the fact that Rodriguez challenged him and he ran away but twisting it around. Dear new reader, just google "Brian Good, Screwloosechange" and you will see why this insane person here has been thrown out from almost every major thruther site.
Also he claims knowledge about C-Span programming and refuses to call them. I did and they do not agree with his views at all.
@Brian Good- it has been a year already, have you called C-Span yet?
Bitch!
Sabba, if you believe that C-Span has done a 9/11 truthprogram since Willie's 8/07 brag-fest, then please advise as to when and what it's title was.
AFAIK, after Willie's empty 2 hours of lies, C-Span stopped doing 9/11 truth.
Willie stole his story from a true hero, Pablo Ortiz. Willie is a liar and a con artist.
Brian Good the Sex stalker and lying Yenta says: snug.bug said...
Sabba, if you believe that C-Span has done a 9/11 truthprogram since Willie's 8/07 brag-fest, then please advise as to when and what it's title was.
Why do I have to do your work?
AFAIK, after Willie's empty 2 hours of lies, C-Span stopped doing 9/11 truth.
hahaha , 2 hours you will never ever have, not even in local cable access. They all think you are an idiot.
Also, you left out- 2 hours and repeated retransmission on the same week by C-Span.
C-Span on my contact with them:
We regard Mr. Rodriguez very highly and he has helped us in other projects as well. C-Span was pleased with his 2 Hour Special for the week of 9/11 and may have other projects in mind in the future. Mr. Rodriguez's work for his community should be commended".
Go ahead , get the opposite Brian Good.
Willie stole his story from a true hero, Pablo Ortiz. Willie is a liar and a con artist.
buawahahahahahahhahahaahha, prove it!
and also prove how willie would have done that on the same 9/11. Good luck with that bitch!
Sabba, I followed very closely whenever C-Span did a 9/11 Truth program. I watched Griffin's Madison speech, I watched the families' DC press conference, I watched the LA Scholars' Symposium, and I watched Willie's 8/07 brag-fest. I have never heard of any other C-Span 9/11 program since, so I don't believe that there was one.
If you want to show me wrong, then name the program and tell me what it was called. Most journalistic codes of ethics prohibit making fools of people unnecessarily, and since Willie's program made a fool of himself and of his audience, I think C-Span concluded that truthers are fools and decided to stop wasting time on us.
Willie's story is just like Pablo Ortiz's: Willie claims he was opening doors and letting people out, and that he saved hundreds of lives. Mr. Ortiz opened jammed doors and let people out, and saved dozens of lives, and though he didn't live to brag about it, we know about it because the people he rescued told about it.
The proof that Willie stole Mr. Ortiz's story is that Willie's is the same as Mr. Ortiz's, that Mr. Ortiz's is true, and Willie's is not. Death statistics show that Willie can not possibly have saved hundreds of lives. If he had, then thousands should have died on the 129 floors that were under the impact zones that he never reached.
Willie is not just a con artist, he is a ghoul stealing glory from the dead.
This, I received from William Rodriguez.
We wanted to inform you that charges will be sworn tomorrow against Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Bin ‘Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, and Mustafa al Hawsawi for their involvement in the September 11, 2001 attacks. The eight charges common to all five of the accused are: Conspiracy, Murder in Violation of the Law of War, Attacking Civilians, Attacking Civilian Objects, Intentionally Causing Serious Bodily Injury, Destruction of Property in Violation of the Law of War, Hijacking Aircraft, and Terrorism.
The Conspiracy charge details 167 overt acts allegedly committed in furtherance of the 9/11 attacks, and alleges the following against the five accused in the following order:
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is alleged to have been the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks by proposing the operational concept to Usama bin Laden as early as 1996, obtaining approval and funding from Usama bin Laden for the attacks, overseeing the entire operation, and training the hijackers in all aspects of the operation in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin 'Attash is alleged to have administered an al Qaeda training camp in Logar, Afghanistan where two of the September 11th hijackers were trained. He is also alleged to have traveled to Malaysia in 1999 to observe airport security by U.S. air carriers in order to assist in formulating the hijacking plan. It is also alleged that he provided a letter to Usama bin Laden detailing his findings on airport security, including how to get a razor-knife on board an aircraft.
Ramzi Binalshibh is alleged to have originally been selected by Usama bin Laden to be one of the September 11th pilot-hijackers with his Hamburg, Germany associates Mohamed Atta, Ziad Jarrah, and Marwan al Shehhi. It is alleged that after filming a "martyr video" in preparation for the operation, but then failing four times to get a visa to travel to the United States to attend flight school, Binalshibh continued to assist the conspiracy by engaging in numerous financial transactions in support of the 9/11 operation. It is also alleged that Binalshibh then became the communication hub between the pilot-hijackers and senior al Qaeda leadership regarding the planning details of the operation.
Ali Abdul Aziz Ali is alleged to have sent approximately $120,000 to the pilot-hijackers for their expenses and flight training, and alleged to have facilitated travel to the United States for nine of the hijackers. It is also alleged that Ali attempted to enter the United States just prior to the September 11th 2001 attacks but was denied a U.S. visa to travel.
Mustafa Ahmed Adam al Hawsawi is alleged to have assisted and prepared the hijackers with money, western clothing, traveler's checks and credit cards. He is also alleged to have facilitated the transfer of thousands of dollars between the accounts of alleged 9/11 hijackers and himself around September 11th, 2001.
These charges are allegations and the five accused are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a military commission.
After charges have been sworn, they will be presented to the Legal Advisor for the Convening Authority (CA) for his review and advice. After this review, the CA – in his sole discretion – may then refer the charges to a military commission. The CA will also determine whether or not to refer the charges to a capital military commission (meaning whether or not the death penalty will be sought in the case). If referred (capital or non-capital), a military judge would then be assigned and a panel of eligible military officers would be selected as potential members of the military commission. The accused would then be arraigned within 30 days of the service of the referred charges.
Brian Good the bitch said:"The proof that Willie stole Mr. Ortiz's story is that Willie's is the same as Mr. Ortiz's, that Mr. Ortiz's is true, and Willie's is not."
oh Brother! you still do not have any evidence!
by saying:"Mr. Ortiz's is true, and Willie's is not." you have to provide evidence of exactly when the story was known bitch! Rodriguez talked about this on 9/11 after he was pulled from the rubble. So post your evidence of how did Rodriguez was "able" to get the whole story complete on the same day.
Radios? they failed.
Witnesses? they came forward way after the event.
News reports? Look at when the mention was done for the first time, and you will be pawned every single time.
Not even the Ortiz family agrees with you Brian Good.
You are not very bright are you Brian?
That is what I was looking for in the debate so you could be pawned and chewed. But then again, you chickened out and ran away from Rodriguez.
Oh Brother! Who says "Oh Brother!" I haven't heard anybody say "Oh Brother!" in about 30 years. Oh, I take that back. Willie said "Oh Brother!"
I said Willie stole Mr. Ortiz's story. I didn't say he did it the first day. When and where on 9/11 did Willie say he was "opening doors and letting people out"? Where did he say "This key saved hundreds of lives?" In the WCBS interview he talks about helping people in wheelchairs and on gurnies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QlI0fPxA7o
I didn't chicken out or run from anything. You guys tried to push me into an ambush that would be bad for the truth movement. Willie doesn't care about the movement--and he never did care or he wouldn't have lied. He made everyone who believed him look like an idiot, but he knew it would be just a matter of time until he was exposed as a liar, and he struggled to put that day off as long as possible.
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Willie's story is just like Pablo Ortiz's: Willie claims he was opening doors and letting people out, and that he saved hundreds of lives. Mr. Ortiz opened jammed doors and let people out, and saved dozens of lives, and we know this because the people he rescued told about it.
The proof that Willie stole Mr. Ortiz's story is that Willie's is the same as Mr. Ortiz's, that Mr. Ortiz's is true, and Willie's is not. Death statistics show that Willie can not possibly have saved hundreds of lives. If he had, then thousands should have died on the 129 floors that were under the impact zones that he never reached.
If Willie's story were true, then hundreds of people who were trapped behind locked fire exit doors should have died when floors 65 to 43 collapsed. His story is not true. He stole it from Pablo Ortiz, a true hero who died on 9/11.
Willie is not just a con artist, he is a ghoul stealing glory from the dead.
Oh Brother! groove on bitch!
See what I mean? My three sentences are irrefutable.
Brian Good- the stupid Bitch says:Willie's story is just like Pablo Ortiz's: Willie claims he was opening doors and letting people out, and that he saved hundreds of lives. Mr. Ortiz opened jammed doors and let people out, and saved dozens of lives, and we know this because the people he rescued told about it.
There you go, the problem is that Rodriguez spoke about it before anybody knew anything about Pablo Ortiz and there must be other stories of other heroes like Willie Rodriguez. Your obsession is so ridiculous, you cannot think properly.
His story is not true.
Right, says who? a stalker? you think you know more than the Secret Service?
More than all the journalists put together who trough the years have interviewed the man? Your Man.
Come on Brina, your sex obsession with Rodriguez is already a legend, learn when to stop Bitch!
Remember, Rodriguez told you to leave him alone "I am a married man". That should send you a signal bitch!
Where did Willie lie about opening doors and letting people out before people knew about Pablo Ortiz?
Willie didn't open doors and let people out. They weren't locked in! And death statistics show that he didn't save hundreds. If he had, then thousands would have died on the other 129 floors under the impact zones. They didn't.
I know better than anybody who's foolish enough to believe a con artist like Willie.
Any firefighter, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see through Willie's lies in an instant. The people were not locked in!
so you saying that Pablo Ortiz is a liar? people were not locked in or trapped or unable to find the exits- according to you bitch! You are so stupid!
You are playing dumb to try to spread confusion. Pablo Ortiz has no need to lie. He cleared away rubble and broke open doors to free dozens of trapped people on the 89th and 90th floors.
The people on Willie's bottom 39 floors were not trapped. The fire doors were not locked.
Brian Good the lying Bitch from Palo Alto California, known as a sex stalker saysYou are playing dumb to try to spread confusion. Pablo Ortiz has no need to lie. He cleared away rubble and broke open doors to free dozens of trapped people on the 89th and 90th floors.
You are the idiot here trying to dumbspan the thread. You are the one claiming Pablo Ortiz is a liar by saying tin many threads from the past that there was no need for rescue anybody since the doors were unlocked. You know it bitch. It is just these last couple of weeks that you found Pablo Ortiz story which refutes your own lies from the past.
The people on Willie's bottom 39 floors were not trapped. The fire doors were not locked.
See how you fix it now?
There were door locked in the building and jammed doors as told by WR and firemen.
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I never said Pablo Ortiz was a liar and I did not stalk anyone.
The doors Mr. Ortiz opened were not locked. They were jammed because they were on the 89th and 90th floors, right under the airplane impact zone. Willie's doors, the lower 39, were not jammed, and the people were not locked in.
Willie stole his story from Pablo Ortiz. The 9/11 Truthers believed Willie because they could not believe that anyone could be such a scumbag as to lie about a day when so many men died and steal the glory of dead heroes. That's exactly what Willie did, though, and he will have to go through the rest of his life knowing that.
...and he will have to go through the rest of his life knowing that.
HAHAHAHHA , last time we checked, he was doing good with his life. Not the same with you of course. Bitch!
Sabba, you don't know anything about me and most of what you think you know is lies--many of them you made up yourself.
Sure! that is why I have exposed everything down to your personal information to the T. I have not been proven wrong once and my record speaks for itself compared to yours. I know very much about you and I am closer to you than you think!
P.S. I am not willie, you should have accepted my challenge to a debate also so you could find out who I was. Then again, you ran away from me also. You fear facing people who will make you look like the ass you are.
Oh Brother!
So who are you calling stalker, stalker?
Why should I care who you are? You're an ass.
Brian Good the Lying Sex Stalker says:So who are you calling stalker, stalker?
Just you, Brian Good from Palo Alto California, a sex stalker who is obsessed with his victims.
Why should I care who you are? You're an ass.
Because I will expose you everywhere for the liar you are.
Because you need me to feed your obsession with Willie Rodriguez since I feed your need to talk about him.
Because you have nobody, not even in your former groups who will support you, even when you "volunteer" yourself for everything to look good. (They all laugh about your obsessions!)
and finally because I do the work you fail to do, like calling people and corroborating statements instead of makinf "opinions" as facts. Bitch!
So are you ready to name the 9/11 Truth C-Span program that happened after Willie's brag-fest in LA in 8/07? I didn't think so, because there isn't one.
Are you ready to name one person who was saved because Willie was "opening doors and letting people out"? I didn't think so, because there aren't any.
Brian Good, the lying bitch , AKA snug.bug said...
So are you ready to name the 9/11 Truth C-Span program that happened after Willie's brag-fest in LA in 8/07? I didn't think so, because there isn't one.
I don't need to, I called C-Span to ask if your statements that it was due to Rodriguez fault were true, and they laughed at your conclusion and said that they had the utmost "respect" for Rodriguez and that he has helped in other productions. You failed to prove your case.
Are you ready to name one person who was saved because Willie was "opening doors and letting people out"? I didn't think so, because there aren't any.
Jose Rivera, Juan Reyes, Gerri Baran, Arnaldo Lopez, Ed beyea( died), etc etc etc.
Are you ready to mention the 50 people that Pablo Ortiz saved? i want all the names, please post them here. All of them.
Also! Brian Good said: The advice I got from my truth movement colleagues was universally against the idea of debating at SLC, though one well-known person offered to moderate on Carol's radio show.
Please name your colleagues. We want to see how many were really members of the truth movement. I will be waiting.
Lying Bitch!
So, I see you can't name a 9/11 Truth C-Span program that happened after Willie's brag-fest in LA in 8/07. There wasn't one. Your claims about what C-Span told you are meaningless, because you are a liar.
How can you claim that Willie saved Ed Beyea when Ed Beyea died? How did Willie save Jose Rivera, Juan Reyes, Gerri Baran, and Arnaldo Lopez? Didn't they already know how to open fire exit doors and find their own way tro the street? Did Willie save Kenny Johannemann and Tony Saltalamacchia too?
Sabba, you must really think I'm a idiot if you think I'm going to name my associates in the truth movement so you can stalk them.
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Brian the lying bitch says:
Your claims about what C-Span told you are meaningless, because you are a liar.
Oh it is very easy to debunk that, Bitch, pick up the phone and call the people involved in the production of that piece. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I already proved you are a liar. Do you want that number again Brian?
Sabba, you must really think I'm a idiot if you think I'm going to name my associates in the truth movement so you can stalk them.
Brian , you are an established stalker and liar. Please post the names of the people who supposedly told you not to debate. You brought it up. not us. Your claim. Prove it.
Also the names of the people saved by Pablo Ortiz, all the names. We are waiting.
Bicker bicker bicker
I irrefutably punked W-Fraud in
three sentences:
1. You stole the story of Pablo Ortiz, a 9/11 hero who saved dozens of people by breaking down doors and letting trapped people out and who died himself when WTC1 fell down.
2. Your claim that you saved hundreds is verified by no one, proven by death statistics to be untrue, and depends on a belief that any fireman, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see in an instant is a lie--the notion that people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for an Angel of God with a Key of Hope to come and set them free.
3. Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
Brian Good the lying bitch says:
Your claims about what C-Span told you are meaningless, because you are a liar.
Oh it is very easy to debunk that, Bitch, pick up the phone and call the people involved in the production of that piece. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I already proved you are a liar. Do you want that number again Brian?
Sabba, you must really think I'm a idiot if you think I'm going to name my associates in the truth movement so you can stalk them.
Brian , you are an established stalker and liar. Please post the names of the people who supposedly told you not to debate. You brought it up. not us. Your claim. Prove it.
Also, the names of the people saved by Pablo Ortiz, all the names. We are waiting.
Brian the lying bitch claims about William Rodriguez:
Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
A lie.
William Rodriguez here at Screwloosechange said:
Thanks Again Mr. Curley.
I am William Rodriguez , I will state here, under perjury of law that this is my personal id (William_Rodriguez) here a screwloosechangeblogspot.
For the Record, so there is no doubt.
I hereby Challenge Brian Good from Palo Alto California to a live debate. A debate to be hosted by Screwloosechange and recorded for future research. I forfeit any rights to edit, manipulate or any claims to my image to any of the recordings made of the debate. Also for the record and as far as I personally know, Carol Brouillet will NOT have Brian Good on his show, ever, so this is an excuse by the alleged stalker. I hope this clears the way to the debate with this alleged stalker. I will, at my own expense and to make it easier to Brian Good, fly and meet with Mr. Curley and face Mr. Good on his own territory.
14 May, 2011 15:21
No Carol whatsoever, Brian you are a bitch.
and just to make matters worse for you. Here was Rodriguez in another post:
William_Rodriguez said...
Hey Brian, I called Carol yesterday to check things out and compare notes. I also corroborated certain things and I am totally sure that she will not have you on her show. If you think I am lying, go ahead, communicate directly with her.
Pretty clear don't you think? Did you ever called her? I bet you did not, stalker. "Brian Good Chickens Out On Debate With Willie Rodriguez
Sabba,
I irrefutably punked W-Fraud in
three sentences:
1. You stole the story of Pablo Ortiz, a 9/11 hero who saved dozens of people by breaking down doors and letting trapped people out and who died himself when WTC1 fell down.
2. Your claim that you saved hundreds is verified by no one, proven by death statistics to be untrue, and depends on a belief that any fireman, cop, security guard, janitor, or architect can see in an instant is a lie--the notion that people were trapped behind locked fire exit doors waiting for an Angel of God with a Key of Hope to come and set them free.
3. Since the summer of 2007 you have been using Carol Brouillet as a human shield to try to intimidate me and to distract from your lies and delay the day when your fraudulence is exposed to all.
Brian Good the lying bitch says:
Your claims about what C-Span told you are meaningless, because you are a liar.
Oh it is very easy to debunk that, Bitch, pick up the phone and call the people involved in the production of that piece. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I already proved you are a liar. Do you want that number again Brian?
Sabba, you must really think I'm a idiot if you think I'm going to name my associates in the truth movement so you can stalk them.
Brian , you are an established stalker and liar. Please post the names of the people who supposedly told you not to debate. You brought it up. not us. Your claim. Prove it.
Also, the names of the people saved by Pablo Ortiz, all the names. We are waiting.
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Sabba, there have been no C-Span 9/11 Truth programs after Willie wasted his two hours on bragging and lies in 8/07. If you disagree, it is for you to identify the programs.
You're changing the subject. Anybody who wants names of people Pablo Ortiz rescued can look in "102 Minutes" and get them.
How can you claim that Willie saved Ed Beyea when Ed Beyea died? How did Willie save Jose Rivera, Juan Reyes, Gerri Baran, and Arnaldo Lopez? Didn't they already know how to open fire exit doors and find their own way tro the street? Did Willie save Kenny Johannemann and Tony Saltalamacchia too?
Brian , you are an established stalker and liar. Please post the names of the people who supposedly told you not to debate. You brought it up. not us. Your claim. Prove it.
Also, the names of the people saved by Pablo Ortiz, all the names. We are waiting.
Sabba, I don't have to prove anything to a creep like you.
Willie stole his hero story from Pablo Ortiz, and his claims that he saved hundreds were a lie. That's all we need to know about Willie.
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