Screw Loose Change to Host Debate Between Brian Good and Willie Rodriguez
Brian wrote in the post on Steven Jones' earthquake machines:
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me--not here, not in person, not anywhere on the internet, and not on Carol's program. That's because he knows better than anyone that he's a liar and a fraud.
Somebody must have informed W-Rod of Brian's challenge because today I received an email from Willie offering to debate Brian live, right here on Screw Loose Change. Obviously we have to work out the details, but I am sure that Brian will agree to the debate in principle, given what he wrote on that thread.
In related news, Jones is not backing away from his latest research. In a post over at Flogger on Jesse's new infatuation with space beams, Jones writes:
Those who go with wild theories such as no-planes-hit-the-Towers and space-beam knocked the Towers and WTC7 down (both promoted by Fetzer/Wood) OR mini-nuke destroyed the Towers. Destruction starts at the top, since the energy-beam is from space -- totally ignoring facts and publications to the contrary. No experiments. But entertaining. They fight against the science group, too.
On Coast-to-coast radio, Judy Wood said that WTC 7 was "dustified" -- what a load of bull manure, flying totally in the face of facts that the rubble piled rather neatly on the WTC 7 footprint -- Observed! She also argued that the falling buildings could have produced the observed thermitic material, from iron-dustified- turns to rust on the way down, combining with aluminum from the building. Unbelievable crap.
But he got some pushback:
Earthquake inducing devices Prof. Jones? Sounds like a wild unsupported theory to me that will certainly do a good job of making us sound and look crazy.
Jones replied:
The evidence supporting the existence of Earthquake inducing devices is considerable and growing, along with statements by Sec'y of Defense Cohen (and Z. Brzezinski) of their existence.
You would do well to attend my talk, or get a copy of the DVD of it. After you have seen the hard evidence presented, you may wish to withdraw your statement that this view is "unsupported."
However -- I hasten to add that this is not something that I can do direct experiments on. This is not on a par, in this sense, with my 9/11 research. I have to wait for the grid-patterns and cluster-patterns to appear where there are no known earthquake faults, and gather and analyze the data. This I have done.
Labels: Brian Good, Debate Challenge, Willie Rodriguez
posted by Pat @ 12:42 PM
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Somebody must have informed W-Rod of Brian's challenge because today I received an email from Willie offering to debate Brian live, right here on Screw Loose Change.
Oh, this ought to be good. Hang on, let me make some popcorn.
Just the thought of Brian debating anyone in a Live debate is just hilarious. Brian would admit defeat before humiliating himself publically, again. Then again all Willie Rodriguez has to do is make his stalking of Carol public with e-mails from her and him. If I were Carol, I'd publish the e-mails for all to see. Just to confirm our claims that Brian is indeed stalking Carol.
"...There are two reasons for the things a man does--the good one, and the real one." -- J.P. Morgan, 17 April 1837 -- 31 March 1913.
Finally, the truth makes its way to the surface--The real reason the goat fucker attacks Carol Brouillet, Willie the Rod and Kevin Barrett.
What's the best way set up a 2-way internet conversation that others can view but not participate in? GuitarBill or anybody else ever tried that? It can't be that hard these days.
Part of me thinks this debate sounds like watching two old people fuck, and the other half is morbidly curious what it will look like.
RGT wrote, "...What's the best way set up a 2-way internet conversation that others can view but not participate in? GuitarBill or anybody else ever tried that? It can't be that hard these days."
Yes, the debate can be set up without any trouble whatsoever. In fact, there are several ways to pull it off. The goat fucker, however, has no intention of debating Willie the Rod in any form. I'm sure the goat fucker would rather have his arm's gnawed off by wild-weasels before he'd actually consent to a debate in a controlled environment.
I wrote to Rodriguez via Facebook. The same way I told the FBI to watch Brian Good. I gave Rodriguez Pat Curley's email and he graciously agreed to take time from his busy schedule. It is in many ways one of the busiest years due to the 10th year anniversary and the death of OBL. HE wants Pat Curley, who is neutral in this to be the mediator and the host LIVE! We all know that Brian is not that busy and is always here so it will not be trouble at all to do this.
Finally Brian can show us on camera his emails supporting him by Carol!!! yeah!
Imagine the possibilities!
You see Brian, I do call, e-mail and ask questions. Now have you called C-Span yet?
Somebody must have informed W-Rod of Brian's challenge because today I received an email from Willie offering to debate Brian live, right here on Screw Loose Change.
Wow, this is historical! Kudos to Sabba, Pat Curley and Screwloosechange!
Sending his to JREF!
My popcorn is ready!
can IAN be a co-moderator?...
just a wish...
Hmm, where is Brian?
Anyway, I can't wait to see Brian Good in action. Will he call people "girls" live? Will he actually get a haircut for his appearance, or will he continue to sport the homeless-mullet look he's got in all his photos?
rejoice Ian, just rejoice
I'll get the beers....
Huh... the always-around Brian Good seems to be not around for once. Curious, don't you think?
Don't tell me he's been full of hot air this ENTIRE time..
Ian said...
Hmm, where is Brian?
he must be busy, preparing his answers and rules for the debate. Also how he should be addressed and emailing people to come up and support him. Probably Michael Dammann from Firetown.com or Phil Jayhan, LOL.
Maybe he is phoning Carol at this point to scare her away of saying or doing anything to make him look bad before the debate.
My internet connection was down all afternoon. I offered a debate taking place on Carol's radio program. The reason for this is that Willie lies, and he hides behind Carol's skirts, and he would surely raise untrue ad hominem attacks on me with no regard for the potential damage to Carol. So she needs to have edit power over the debate.
GutterBall, the credence you give to the unsubstantiated assertions of anonymous internet posters shows you have the mind of a child, and goes a long way to explain why you are so confused about 9/11.
Ian, that's not a mullet, it's a ducktail Beatle with a part on the side.
Shut the fuck up, goat fucker.
Sabba's explanation of events fills in the gaping holes in your story, and does a great job of telling us why Carol Brouillet and her husband avoid you like plague--and I quote:
"...I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to you." -- Carol Brouillet
I always suspected that you deliberately tried to wreck her marriage, and now we have the full story.
You're scum, goat fucker, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
UtterFail, like I said, the fact that you uncritically accept the unsubstantiated claims of an anonymous internet poster shows that you have the mind of a child.
You're only giving so much attention to this nonsense because you don't know enough about 9/11 to discuss it. For instance you still can't explain why NRDC's claim that all 424,000 tons of concrete were pulverized is absurd.
The goat fucker whines, "...UtterFail, like I said, the fact that you uncritically accept the unsubstantiated claims of an anonymous internet poster shows that you have the mind of a child."
That's right, goat fucker, repeat yourself. And I suppose that I'm supposed to accept the unsubstantiated assertions of a proven compulsive liar and psychopath? What are you, goat fucker, a comedian?
The remainder of your post doesn't deserve a response because it's nothing more than a naked attempt to change the subject and bury your latest failure in an avalanche of gay squeal spam.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
That you paint your own situation as a false dilemma shows you have the mind of a child.
Weak. But then again, should we expect more from a cretin who can barely mop a floor?
That you continue to lie after being exposed as a home wrecker and a sex stalker proves that you're a compulsive liar and psychopath.
If you had a conscience you'd almost qualify as a human being.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Willie Rodriguez stalker,Brian GoodAKA- snug.bug said...
UtterFail, like I said, the fact that you uncritically accept the unsubstantiated claims of an anonymous internet poster shows that you have the mind of a child.
You're only giving so much attention to this nonsense because you don't know enough about 9/11 to discuss it. For instance you still can't explain why NRDC's claim that all 424,000 tons of concrete were pulverized is absurd.
Hey Brian, please concentrate on the title of the thread. Do not derail this one to other issues you should be responding in another thread. Carol will have no editing power , neither Pat Curley. It is going to be, a real time clash debate, the way it should be.
Rodriguez is ready to mop the floor with you, I gather you must be ready to sweep the floor with him, so let's get it on! Bitch!
UtterFail- do not fall for his trick to derail. Thanks
snug.bug said...
My internet connection was down all afternoon.
Yeah right, now you are going to blame the "Norwegian" hackers working with Rodriguez.
The Challenge is on Brian Good!
Tic toc tic toc
If Brian doesn't accept this challenge, he should be banned from this forum.
He drags Willie Rodriguez into every fucking thread, even though his beef with Willie seems to be more about personal drama than 9/11.
And now that Pat and James want to arrange the debate he's been saying everybody's afraid of, he doesn't want to have it because it's not in his terms? Which of course require the involvement of the woman he's been sexually harassing for years?
Fuck that.
Give him a deadline to accept and throw his ass out of here if he doesn't.
I believe there is a deadline since WR is very busy regarding the 10th anniversary preparations at Ground Zero.
If this is Mr. Rodriguez, welcome to the Screwloosechange forum. We are looking forward to the live debate.
Thank you, and Thanks to Pat Curley for accepting. Let Pat organize all the details, I have some time sporadically available until mid July, after that is crazy for me due to the amount of work required for the anniversary, interviews setups for victims etc. I can travel to SF, or we can bring my "bitch" somewhere agreed upon on. I look forward to face Mrs. Good. Bye for now. Any requests, please send them to Mr. Curley.
There you go, from the stalked man himself. So when is it good for you Brian "the Bitch" Good?
GutterBall, that you regard your own baseless lies as evidence of anything shows you to be incompetent.
Willie Rodriguez, why do you refer to yourself in the third person as "Rodriguez"? You are mentally ill, are't you?
I challenged Willie to a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio program so that she would have edit power. This is necessary because the hero Willie has shown himself willing to use her has a human shield.
I don't think a debate under SLC's sponsorship is a good idea because SLC has already shown that its agenda is to try to make the truth movement look bad. Since Willie has already been proven to be a liar and a fraud, they can do nothing to make him look worse. They have already done what they can to try to make me look foolish, and can do little more. All that's in it for them is to give Willie a chance to make Carol look foolish, and I'm not going to be a party to that.
WIllie's Bitch, Brian Good aka: Punsuxtawneybarney and Snug.bug says: I don't think a debate under SLC's sponsorship is a good idea because SLC has already shown that its agenda is to try to make the truth movement look bad.
Brian Good in posts all over this forum said:
"I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts.
Really? we are seeing otherwise.
Do not try now to manipulate your statements. Be a man and man up to your statements. If Rodriguez, who has more standing than you anywhere in the truth movement, despite your attacks, has agreed to come here and face the music, what makes you so special?
Carol will NEVER have you on her show. Everybody knows that. Here is your opportunity to validate yourself to your movement and shut us all.
Brian,
Your bluff has been called, show your cards or leave here and never post again.
Coward.
Sabba, when did I say "I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts"?
I offered years ago to have a debate on Carol's radio show. The reason it can not be in real time is because the hero Willie uses Carol as a human shield and I don't want her hurt.
How do you know Carol will not have me on her show? Did you ask her? If it's presented to her in terms of "It's happening and you can either have it on your show and have edit power or it will happen elsewhere and you might not like it" maybe she'd see that it's a good idea to have it on her show.
roo, don't tell me what to do.
The Palo Alto Pudd Huffing Pinocchio whines, "...GutterBall, that you regard your own baseless lies as evidence of anything shows you to be incompetent."
That's right, goat fucker, keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Projecting your incompetence on me is a little more than pathetic--it's sickening.
You're a coward and an habitual liar. You never had any intention of debating anyone, and now you're moving the goal post and pretending that it's essential for Carol Brulliet to participate in the debate. All you've managed to do is prove the prediction I made at 19:45 was correct.
In fact, I agree 100% with Triterope, who wrote, "...If Brian doesn't accept this challenge, he should be banned from this forum."
Pat, give the goat fucker a deadline to attend the debate, if he fails to participate at the predetermined time, ban him, permanently. Enough of this lying charlatan and his never ending nonsense is enough.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Brian's not moving the goal posts, he's taken them down and still demanding that you kick a field goal. He's a pussy and a troll. He needs to be banned.
The goat fucker prevaricates like a weasel and whines, "...Sabba, when did I say 'I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts'?"
The goat fucker is moving the goal post again, Pat. And I quote:
"...I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts." -- The Goat Fucker, 9 May 2011.
The goat fucker moves the goal post once again..
Notice that the goat fucker moves the goal post by insisting on "a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show," and Carol Broulliet's show only.
The goat fucker knows that Carol Broulliet will never go along with the plan because as Carol Broulliet has made perfectly clear--and I quote: "...Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel 'safe' in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again."
The goat fucker knows Carol Broulliet will NEVER consent to the debate with the sex stalker, because she fears and hates the goat fucker. After all, the goat fucker deliberately tried to sabotage her marriage.
Conclusion: The goat fucker is a despicable liar and con man who has absolutely no intention of debating anyone.
I recommend--in fact, I demand--that the goat fucker be unceremoniously banned from SLC.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
UtterFail, the only reason it is necessary for me to repeat myself is because you keep repeating the same lies.
I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol's radio program. Willie has never accepted that offer. I didn't stalk anybody and I never made any effort to sabotage Carol's marriage. You make stuff up.
I am not going to be manipulated by your lies into allowing the 9/11 fraudster Willie Rodriguez to use Carol as a human shield.
Willie's Bitch,Brian Good aka:punsuxtawneybarneyand Snug.bug says:
I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol's radio program. Willie has never accepted that offer.
Can you provide evidence of this Brian Good? apparently you are the only one who knows about this invitation. Rodriguez said you were blocked as a spammer long time ago, so how did you invited Rodriguez and Carol to debate you?
you claimed you will debate him bitch, now put up or go impale yourself.
Sabba, since you claim a lot of personal knowledge of my situation, and you lie about me, and since you do not speak for Willie, there's no reason for me to talk to you at all.
Willlie's bitch, Brian Good aka snug.bug said...
Sabba, since you claim a lot of personal knowledge of my situation, and you lie about me, and since you do not speak for Willie, there's no reason for me to talk to you at all.
I have proven my knowledge about you bitch. All my personal info about you has checked out. Good luck ignoring us, we, all in here have the same views about you.
It seems to bother you that I contact the people when you claim bullshit, I did it with Glenn Zarmanov, Barrett, Cranke, DRG, Carol, Rodriguez etc.
Have you called C-Span yet? Bitch.
Lying again, goat fucker? Repeating the same lies over-and-over-and-over again will never lend the force of credibility to your threadbare argument.
In fact, I didn't make anything up. I merely referenced Carol Broulliet, and I quote:
"...I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to you." -- Carol Brouillet
Sabba's explanation fills in the blanks and adds support to the idea that you deliberately tried to sabotage Carol Broulliet's marriage--which I have suspected for months. Nothing else explains Carol Broulliet's repugnanace where you are concerned, goat fucker.
You're lower than a snake's belly, goat fucker.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
WhyAskQuestions said...
Just the thought of Brian debating anyone in a Live debate is just hilarious. Brian would admit defeat before humiliating himself publically, again. Then again all Willie Rodriguez has to do is make his stalking of Carol public with e-mails from her and him. If I were Carol, I'd publish the e-mails for all to see. Just to confirm our claims that Brian is indeed stalking Carol.
Just getting that WAQ!
Here, helping blogger restore some of the comments:
Triterope has left a new comment on the post "Screw Loose Change to Host Debate Between Brian Go...":
If Brian doesn't accept this challenge, he should be banned from this forum.
He drags Willie Rodriguez into every fucking thread, even though his beef with Willie seems to be more about personal drama than 9/11.
And now that Pat and James want to arrange the debate he's been saying everybody's afraid of, he doesn't want to have it because it's not in his terms? Which of course require the involvement of the woman he's been sexually harassing for years?
Fuck that.
Give him a deadline to accept and throw his ass out of here if he doesn't.
Sabba, thanks for recovering that post. I feel strongly about that.
No problem, I am trying to recover the others so the reader can follow what was removed by the blogger maintenance crew.
A post by William here:
William_Rodriguez has left a new comment:
" I believe there is a deadline since WR is very busy regarding the 10th anniversary preparations at Ground Zero."
I responded to Rodriguez: There you go, from the stalked man himself. So when is it good for you Brian "the Bitch" Good?
Then user BRIAN GOOD, STALKERwrote: " If this is Mr. Rodriguez, welcome to the Screwloosechange forum. We are looking forward to the live debate.
William Rodriguez responded with the following:
Thank you, and Thanks to Pat Curley for accepting. Let Pat organize all the details, I have some time sporadically available until mid July, after that is crazy for me due to the amount of work required for the anniversary, interviews setups for victims etc. I can travel to SF, or we can bring my "bitch" somewhere agreed upon on. I look forward to face Mrs. Good. Bye for now. Any requests, please send them to Mr. Curley.
Willie's bitch, Brian Good answered:
snug.bug says: GutterBall, that you regard your own baseless lies as evidence of anything shows you to be incompetent.
Willie Rodriguez, why do you refer to yourself in the third person as "Rodriguez"? You are mentally ill, are't you?
I challenged Willie to a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio program so that she would have edit power. This is necessary because the hero Willie has shown himself willing to use her has a human shield.
I don't think a debate under SLC's sponsorship is a good idea because SLC has already shown that its agenda is to try to make the truth movement look bad. Since Willie has already been proven to be a liar and a fraud, they can do nothing to make him look worse. They have already done what they can to try to make me look foolish, and can do little more. All that's in it for them is to give Willie a chance to make Carol look foolish, and I'm not going to be a party to that.
to that I said the following:"Willie's Bitch, Brian Good aka: Punsuxtawneybarney and Snug.bug says: I don't think a debate under SLC's sponsorship is a good idea because SLC has already shown that its agenda is to try to make the truth movement look bad.
I corrected Brian with this:
Brian Good in posts all over this forum said:
"I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts.
Really? we are seeing otherwise.
Brian, Do not try now to manipulate your statements. Be a man and man up to your statements. If Rodriguez, who has more standing than you anywhere in the truth movement, despite your attacks, has agreed to come here and face the music, what makes you so special?
Carol will NEVER have you on her show. Everybody knows that. Here is your opportunity to validate yourself to your movement and shut us all.
roo said: Brian, Your bluff has been called, show your cards or leave here and never post again.
Coward.
Brian Good answered roo with this:snug.bug said: Sabba, when did I say "I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts"?
I offered years ago to have a debate on Carol's radio show. The reason it can not be in real time is because the hero Willie uses Carol as a human shield and I don't want her hurt.
How do you know Carol will not have me on her show? Did you ask her? If it's presented to her in terms of "It's happening and you can either have it on your show and have edit power or it will happen elsewhere and you might not like it" maybe she'd see that it's a good idea to have it on her show.
funny how Brian thinks now that there can be a negotiation between the stalked woman and the stalker by telling her "It's happening and you can either have it on your show and have edit power or it will happen elsewhere and you might not like it" maybe she'd see that it's a good idea to have it on her show.
Funny thing is that our GuitarBill did see through this and said:GuitarBill says:
The Palo Alto Pudd Huffing Pinocchio whines, "...GutterBall, that you regard your own baseless lies as evidence of anything shows you to be incompetent."
That's right, goat fucker, keep repeating yourself like a broken record. Projecting your incompetence on me is a little more than pathetic--it's sickening.
You're a coward and an habitual liar. You never had any intention of debating anyone, and now you're moving the goal post and pretending that it's essential for Carol Brulliet to participate in the debate. All you've managed to do is prove the prediction I made at 19:45 was correct.
In fact, I agree 100% with Triterope, who wrote, "...If Brian doesn't accept this challenge, he should be banned from this forum."
Pat, give the goat fucker a deadline to attend the debate, if he fails to participate at the predetermined time, ban him, permanently. Enough of this lying charlatan and his never ending nonsense is enough.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
roo then quipped:
Brian's not moving the goal posts, he's taken them down and still demanding that you kick a field goal. He's a pussy and a troll. He needs to be banned.
Brian's not moving the goal posts, he's taken them down and still demanding that you kick a field goal.
No, it's not that, it's just that the goalposts have to be in front of Carol Brouillet's house. Carol Brouillet must have the ability to judge the field goal because Ed Hochuli might lie about whether the field goal was good. It has to be Carol Brouillet. I'm afraid Ed Hochuli wants to hurt Carol Brouillet and I want to protect her from that.
So let's recap all the lies Brian has said:
He lied about Dr. Sunder, Ray Downey, the NIST report, Willie Rodriguez "not having the guts" to debate him, stalking Carol Brouillet, and whether or not he has a zillion other internet IDs that he uses to stalk Rodriguez (petgoat, punxsutawneybarney, truebeleaguer, contrivance).
Am I missing any?
Sabba, where did I say "I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts."
I offered to debate Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio show so that Carol would have edit power. A real time debate is not acceptable because of Willie's decidedly unheroic propensity to use Carol as a human shield. (Imagine a short, fat guy trying to hide behind a tall, willowy woman.)
TR, what does Ed Hochuli have to do with this? Did I offer to debate him in the Superdome? You should have made a Bigfoot joke, it would be much funnier.
Ian, you lie. I told the truth when I said that Shyam Sunder told NOVA that the WTC towers "essentially came down in free fall".
I told the truth when I said that Ray Downey expressed the opinion that explosives had been used in the collapse of WTC2 because its collapse was "too even".
I told the truth when I said the NIST report says in section 6.14.4 that "the building section above" came down "essentially in free fall". This statement makes no sense when applied to panels falling outside the tower footprint or to the alleged kinetic impact of an alleged piledriver.
I told the truth when I said that Willie does not have the guts to debate me--which is clearly true because he has not debated me though I offered years ago to have a debate on Carol's radio show. Until he actually does debate me, my statement stands as correct from the time that I made it until the time that he debates me.
I told the truth about Carol Brouillet. I did not stalk anyone. I believe that at one time she attributed strange phone calls to me. I never made strange phone calls to anyone.
Willie's bitch, Brian Good says:
snug.bug says:
Sabba, when did I say I would debate Willie "anytime, anywhere"...?...
Really Brian? how about this:
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me--not here, not in person, not anywhere on the internet, and not on Carol's program. That's because he knows better than anyone that he's a liar and a fraud.
We have seen otherwise Brian Good.
I never "actually ran away from" Willie.
You did then and you doing it now.
He threatened to bring a camera crew and he never brought them.
and by your own words, you did not accepted his challenge because you did not wanted to comp[ete with his charisma. Why will he have to travel in vain then?
If anything, Willie "actually ran away from" me--because I told him I would confront him if he ever showed up in the Bay Area, and he hasn't shown up since.
Another lie Brian Good? he has been there but of course since you did not know about it, it is not true? right?
I doubt you will have the guts to confront him and since he just offered to face you, what is then stopping you?
It is up to you to prove your claims, and you can't, because they're not true. I have never called Carol's husband, ever. I never implied anything about Carol and Willie.
calling meaning trying to talk to him, I give you that. But you did talk to him and tried to mess up her marriage little rat. I know it from the right sources bitch. It is up to you to prove that I am lying by presenting the challenge of a note or an email from Carol or her husband that we are lying. We are still waiting. It will NEVER happen!
You report a lot of things that never happened, and the ones that did happen you report in a scrambled chronology that suits your fantasies. oh now it seems I have "some" things right!, wrong, everything I said is correct about you down to your family history, personal information etc.
Ian, where I come from, it is considered unheroic to lie about your deeds and to use innocent third parties as human shields.
Brian, where you going you will be laughed by the innocent, the truthers and the human shields.
And by the way, have the balls to respond on the challenge to debate thread so everybody will see this, otherwise I will cut and paste over there for you. Bitch!
Willie's Bitch Brian Good, aka snug.bug says:I told the truth about Carol Brouillet. I did not stalk anyone. I believe that at one time she attributed strange phone calls to me. I never made strange phone calls to anyone.
You lied about Carol Brouillett, you not only stlaked her but also tried to break her marriage, you got jealous of William Rodriguez, Kevin Barrett and I just found out of another activist as well! so your sickness is about equal opportunity harassments. Liar. Bitch!
Willie is ready to debate you now face to face bitch, what is holding you now?
Have you called C-Span yet?
Wow, it's hilarious when Brian just repeats the same lies.
You are a pathetic coward, Brian. You won't debate Rodriguez because you know he'll destroy you, and then you'll be squealing about it for days.
Also,
A real time debate is not acceptable because of Willie's decidedly unheroic propensity to use Carol as a human shield. (Imagine a short, fat guy trying to hide behind a tall, willowy woman.)
Does this mean you're never going to babble about widows anymore?
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The goat fucker prevaricates like a weasel and whines, "...Sabba, when did I say 'I will debate Willie, anyplace, anywhere, he does not have the guts'?"
The goat fucker is moving the goal post again, Pat. And I quote:
"...I made an offer to have a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show with Willie. He doesn't have the guts." -- The Goat Fucker, 9 May 2011.
The goat fucker moves the goal post once again..
Notice that the goat fucker moves the goal post by insisting on "a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show," and Carol Broulliet's show only.
The goat fucker knows that Carol Broulliet will never go along with the plan because as Carol Broulliet has made perfectly clear--and I quote: "...Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel 'safe' in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again."
The goat fucker knows Carol Broulliet will NEVER consent to the debate with the sex stalker, because she fears and hates the goat fucker. After all, the goat fucker deliberately tried to sabotage her marriage.
Conclusion: The goat fucker is a despicable liar and con man who has absolutely no intention of debating anyone.
I recommend--in fact, I demand--that the goat fucker be unceremoniously banned from SLC.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Recovering more posts here, for the readers. (Blogger had a shutdown and is having troubles reposting earlier comments)
Willie's Bitch,Brian Good aka:punsuxtawneybarney and Snug.bug says:
I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol's radio program.
a Lie, it was Rodriguez who came out with the idea.
Can you provide evidence of this Brian Good? apparently you are the only one who knows about this invitation. Rodriguez said you were blocked as a spammer long time ago, so how did you invited Rodriguez and Carol to debate you on her on program?
you claimed you will debate him bitch, now put up or go impale yourself.
Another missing post here:
snug.bug has left a new comment on the post "Screw Loose Change to Host Debate Between Brian Go...":
Sabba, since you claim a lot of personal knowledge of my situation, and you lie about me, and since you do not speak for Willie, there's no reason for me to talk to you at all.
Then Guitarbill commented:
GuitarBill has left a new comment on the post "Screw Loose Change to Host Debate Between Brian Go...":
Lying again, goat fucker? Repeating the same lies over-and-over-and-over again will never lend the force of credibility to your threadbare argument.
In fact, I didn't make anything up. I merely referenced Carol Broulliet, and I quote:
"...I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to you." -- Carol Brouillet
Sabba's explanation fills in the blanks and adds support to the idea that you deliberately tried to sabotage Carol Broulliet's marriage--which I have suspected for months. Nothing else explains Carol Broulliet's repugnanace where you are concerned, goat fucker.
You're lower than a snake's belly, goat fucker.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Of course, after guitarbill comments, I responded to Brian Good with my comments on the previous post.
Willlie's bitch, Brian Good aka snug.bug said...
Sabba, since you claim a lot of personal knowledge of my situation, and you lie about me, and since you do not speak for Willie, there's no reason for me to talk to you at all.
Ha! and you are still talking to me!
I have proven my knowledge about you bitch. All my personal info about you has checked out. Good luck ignoring us, we, all in here have the same views about you.
It seems to bother you that I contact the people when you claim bullshit, I did it with Glenn Zarmanov, Barrett, Cranke, DRG, Carol, Rodriguez etc.
Have you called C-Span yet? Bitch.
to all the readers: Brian Good is also avoiding the challenge on this thread:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/oh-canaduh.html
Wow, sabba, you sure have a hangup about Brian Good! What's your problem? Did he expose you as a liar and a fraud?
I have never run away from Willie and I'm not doing it now. Nobody needs to travel. We can debate on Carol's radio program just fine.
I never tried to mess up Carol's marriage. In fact I considered the stability of her marriage to be an important asset as a candidate, which is why I was interested in protecting it.
There is no reason in the world for me to be jealous of liars and bigots like William Rodriguez and Kevin Barrett.
If Willie is willing to answer questions, why won't he answer questions? He can answer them right here.
Why would Willie want to destroy me? The way for him to win a debate would be for him to calmly and honestly show that his story is true. If he responds to charges that it is false with an attempt through lies to nuke the messenger, it will only be further evidence that his story is not in fact true.
sabba said in this post:http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/oh-canaduh.html#c682596257000805345
William_Rodriguez said:
Thank you, and Thanks to Pat Curley for accepting. Let Pat organize all the details, I have some time sporadically available until mid July, after that is crazy for me due to the amount of work required for the anniversary, interviews setups for victims etc. I can travel to SF, or we can bring my "bitch" somewhere agreed upon on. I look forward to face Mrs. Good. Bye for now. Any requests, please send them to Mr. Curley.
Sabba says: Sooo, when are you going to accept Brian Good? the clock is ticking.
The challenge is on Brian Good. Here is your opportunity to face Rodriguez on your own turf! as an added bonus you get Patrick Curley holding the debate and making sure you both stay on topic.
When are you available?
snug.bug said...
Wow, sabba, you sure have a hangup about Brian Good! What's your problem? Did he expose you as a liar and a fraud?
Sabba has shown the liar you are. The stalker you really are and finally how you got no respect from your own truthers.
I have never run away from Willie and I'm not doing it now. Nobody needs to travel. Lol, you are not traveling! they are traveling to meet you! to face you and your statements that you will face him if he goes to SF!
We can debate on Carol's radio program just fine.
Carol think you are a jerk and a stalker so be true to your own statements that you will debate him anywhere. We are waiting.
Brian Good says: If Willie is willing to answer questions, why won't he answer questions? He can answer them right here.
We do believe he is more busy than you and to spend endless time here like you do, is time consuming, so, it is easier for him to face you and to answer all your bullshit in person in a once for all debate. You are famous here for never ending repetitions and never ending Bullshit of the facts as I have been reading in many of your old posts.
Why would Willie want to destroy me? The way for him to win a debate would be for him to calmly and honestly show that his story is true. If he responds to charges that it is false with an attempt through lies to nuke the messenger, it will only be further evidence that his story is not in fact true.
the reality is , we do not know how his debate is going to be, but with more media expertise and speaking in front of audiences ability, I believe he will be calm but will also be passionate about his beliefs and his attackers. We welcome that rare opportunity. Again , kudos to PAT CURLEY for this exclusive moment.
Wow, sabba, you sure have a hangup about Brian Good! What's your problem? Did he expose you as a liar and a fraud?
Just when we thought Brian couldn't get more pathetic, he tries to pretend he isn't Brian. Hilarious.
Brian, you do realize that you've claimed to be Brian Good while posting as "snug.bug", right? I know you're so stupid that you couldn't hold down a job mopping floors, but these lies of yours are pathetic.
I have never run away from Willie and I'm not doing it now. Nobody needs to travel. We can debate on Carol's radio program just fine.
Brian, Rodriguez has offered to debate you here. Your failure to accept is admission that you are a liar and coward who is afraid of Rodriguez.
I never tried to mess up Carol's marriage.
Another pathetic lie. Brian, you were expelled from the truth movement for sexually harassing her.
There is no reason in the world for me to be jealous of liars and bigots like William Rodriguez and Kevin Barrett.
Squeal squeal squeal!
Nobody has informed me of any challenge.
I have no reason to believe that the anonymous internet poster "William Rodriguez" is actually William Rodriguez.
I offered to have a debate with William Rodriguez on Carol Brouillet's radio show (so she would have edit power). That offer still stands.
Since the agenda of SLC is to make truthers look foolish, since William Rodriguez has already been proven to be a liar and a fraud, since SLC has already done their best to make me look foolish, the only possible motivation for SLC in this is to have a "catfight" that will titillate GuitarBill and Ian but serves little purpose other than expose Carol Brouillet to risk.
As I said three years ago, if Willie comes to San Francisco I will picket and leaflet the venue, and I will leaflet progressive events to widely publicize Willie's fraudulent nature.
I never sexually harassed Carol Brouillet, and she has not said that I did.
Thanks Again Mr. Curley.
I am William Rodriguez , I will state here, under perjury of law that this is my personal id (William_Rodriguez) here a screwloosechangeblogspot.
For the Record, so there is no doubt.
I hereby Challenge Brian Good from Palo Alto California to a live debate. A debate to be hosted by Screwloosechange and recorded for future research. I forfeit any rights to edit, manipulate or any claims to my image to any of the recordings made of the debate. Also for the record and as far as I personally know, Carol Brouillet will NOT have Brian Good on his show, ever, so this is an excuse by the alleged stalker. I hope this clears the way to the debate with this alleged stalker. I will, at my own expense and to make it easier to Brian Good, fly and meet with Mr. Curley and face Mr. Good on his own territory. I will like this to be done before mid July due to my compromises and responsibilities for the upcoming anniversary. Again, contact Mr. Curley for all the arrangements.
my email is wtcbill@gmail.com and I welcome mails from IAN, Guitarbill,Triterope, Brian Good Stalker, Sabba, roo and Mr. Curley to corroborate my identity. Not from Brian Good who is banned and advised not to harass me via email (he has been blocked for years).
Nobody has informed me of any challenge.
I have no reason to believe that the anonymous internet poster "William Rodriguez" is actually William Rodriguez.
I offered to have a debate with William Rodriguez on Carol Brouillet's radio show (so she would have edit power). That offer still stands.
Since the agenda of SLC is to make truthers look foolish, since William Rodriguez has already been proven to be a liar and a fraud, since SLC has already done their best to make me look foolish, the only possible motivation for SLC in this is to have a "catfight" that will titillate GuitarBill and Ian but serves little purpose other than expose Carol Brouillet to risk.
As I said three years ago, if Willie comes to San Francisco I will picket and leaflet the venue, and I will leaflet progressive events to widely publicize Willie's fraudulent nature.
I never sexually harassed Carol Brouillet.
Ouuuch Brian!
Brian in the past said:Who am I backstabbing? Not William Rodriguez. I'm giving him an opportunity to clarify the issues and explain that he is not a liar. So where is he? Where's Annie? Where's Reprehensor? Where's Kevin? Hell, you'd think that at least Kev's buddy Galileo would show up! He's always ready to invent some nonsense.
Now William is giving you an opportunity.
Here is another quote from the past from you:
I've probably had worse luck getting answers from Truthers than the Jersey widows had getting answers from the 9/11 Commission, and that's an indictment of the Truth movement. And then you guys wonder why Willie can't get his story in the papers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA not even the truthers respects you.
It's not just Brian.
Over at 911oz, the founder/administrator of the site, one Hereward Fenton, said "I would love to debate on ScrewLoosehange".
Well, I said nothing was stopping him, so go ahead.
Naturally, having the spotlight of reality suddenly bathing him in light, he simply said nothing, hoping it would go away.
After repeating his comment, an asking what was stopping him, he finally said he'd only debate ME on HIS radio show.
What a joke. Then again, it's the usual infantile rubbish we expect from truthers.
It's all piss and wind; enthusiastically blogging about what they would have done with the hijackers if they were flying the plane; what they would have done if they were Bin Laden with the SEALS attacking them, etc., etc.
And yet, when they are asked to debate their views with those that do not agree..they run.
Pathetic.
I guess he is afraid to a battle with a charismatic hero. (His Words)
If William Rodriguez wishes to challenge me to anything, he needs to communicate with me directly. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
My offer to debate William on Carol Brouillet's radio show stands. My warning that if he ever dares to show his face in the Bay Area that I will picket and leaflet the venue, and leaflet progressive events to publicize his fraudulent activities stands.
William Rodriguez is a liar whose self-serving and fraudulent hero tales have done enormous damage to the credibility and the integrity of the truth movement.
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BGS--Willie? Charismatic? LOL!
Talk about your failed janitors! He claimed in federal court documents that after being a stairwell janitor at the WTC he could not find another job as a janitor.
Willie's bitch, Brian Good aka snug.bug says:If William Rodriguez wishes to challenge me to anything, he needs to communicate with me directly. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
He just did fricking idiot! He challenged you publicly and do not need to do it privately to feed your sexual fantasies with him.
...Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
didn't you claimed he didn't travel around the world since 2009? oh I forgot, I proved you wrong on that one too.
...has not communicated with me in years why he should communicate directly with a stalker who has defame him all over?, stop the BS and accept the fricking challenge once and for all.
snug.bug said...
BGS--Willie? Charismatic? LOL!
Talk about your failed janitors! He claimed in federal court documents that after being a stairwell janitor at the WTC he could not find another job as a janitor.
Brian, your words! not mine! Why he should be a janitor anymore when he commands thousands to speak? in your case, you cannot even claim that you have a job.
I guess he is afraid to a battle with a charismatic hero. (Brian Good's Words)
Sabba, William Rodriguez has not challenged me to anything.
An anonymous internet poster who calls himself "William Rodriguez" may or may not have. I really didn't pay much attention. William Rodriguez, who travels around the world lying about 9/11, has not communicated with me in years.
BGS-charismatic? LOL!
Willie claimed in federal court documents that when the WTC fell down he lost his livelihood as a cleaner of stairwells. I guess that means he swore he was a failed janitor then, huh?
I guess he is afraid to a battle with a charismatic hero. (Brian Good's Words)
Thanks for that one BGS!
Sabba, when did I say Willie was a "charismatic hero"
Jim Bakkar was charismatic. Willie?
Debate or GTFO, Brian.
Willie's Bitch, Brian Good aka-snug.bug said...
Sabba, when did I say Willie was a "charismatic hero"
you did. When you complained of Rodriguez making much of your reluctance to debate him.
did you call C-Span yet?
Thanks BGS!
Brian Good said:I've probably had worse luck getting answers from Truthers than the Jersey widows had getting answers from the 9/11 Commission, and that's an indictment of the Truth movement.
Pure Gold! Pure Gold!
Sabba, William Rodriguez has not challenged me to anything.
False. The offer is on the front page of this blog. Learn to read.
My offer to debate William on Carol Brouillet's radio show stands.
What makes you think Carol wants you on her show? She's scared of you because you're a sick perverted fruitcake. There's a part of me that would love to know what kind of nasty shit you did in order to try to win her over. Did you send her photos of donkey porn or something?
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Ian, if Willie Rodriguez wants to debate he needs to contact me directly.
Or he could just come here and start answering questions. He's got a lot of 'splainin' to do! He hasn't had the guts to answer questions in almost four years now, so I won't hold my breath waiting for him to change. If past history is any guide he will bluff and bluster about film crews and renting halls and how incredibly busy he is, and nothing will come of it. He will hide behind lying sock puppets like sabba and CBSF and enlist the aid of liars like you and GutterBall.
Slandering your intellectual and moral superiors again, goat fucker?
You're a liar, coward, sex predator and Al Qeada apologist. And you should sue your brains for nonsupport.
Debate or GTFO, Brian.
Come on, Pat and James, you can't let this guy do this. If he doesn't accept this offer, kick his ass out of here.
He will hide behind lying sock puppets like sabba and CBSF and enlist the aid of liars like you and GutterBall.
So now you are claiming I am Rodriguez?
or whoever CBSF is, is Rodriguez also?
You got to do better than that bitch, Pat knows my real Identity and I am closer to you than you think.
Not like you who denies to be Punsuxtawneybarney, trutruther, petgoat, contrivance etc. etc.
Funny how you accuse others of sockpuppets.
oh and I forgot!
...Bitch!
did you call C-Span yet?
Brian Good says:If past history is any guide he will bluff and bluster about film crews and renting halls and how incredibly busy he is, and nothing will come of it. He will hide behind lying sock puppets like sabba and CBSF and enlist the aid of liars like you and GutterBall.
If past history is any guide, you will bluff and bluster about only doing it on Carol's Show, knowing quite well she will never have you on her show. As far as we know you have been the one , every time, running away from facing Rodriguez. By your own words, you are worried about his "Charismatic Hero" status compare to your train spotting type. Now we understand clearly why Rodriguez did not loose his time for 4 years with a looser like you.
Willie's gay bitch, Brian Good, aka- snug.bug said...
Sabba, you are not in a position to make demands on behalf of William Rodriguez.
First you accuse me of being Rodriguez...
He will hide behind lying sock puppets like sabba and CBSF and enlist the aid of liars like you and GutterBall.
Then he will complain of me making demands. May I remind you that I can take FULL credit for doing the job you failed to do? things like contacting people to corroborate your lies? May I remind you that it was me who contacted the FBI because I believe you to be a potential terrorist? May I also remind you that it was me who contacted Rodriguez on Facebook to make him aware about your BS ? I think that after all these actions you should not go to Conspiracy Con and spend time here instead preparing for your debate. I want to be in front seat to watch this show of course!
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Thanks BGS for reposting this.
your welcome Sabba.
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/screw-loose-change-to-host-debate.html#c3208490674352027247
Ian, if Willie Rodriguez wants to debate he needs to contact me directly.
As opposed to you, who will create thousands of sockpuppets to post spam all over the internet about Rodriguez, and then claim he doesn't have the guts to debate you?
You're really pathetic, Brian. No wonder you're a failed janitor who lives with your parents.
William_Rodriguez said...
...For the Record, so there is no doubt.
I hereby Challenge Brian Good from Palo Alto California to a live debate. A debate to be hosted by Screwloosechange and recorded for future research. I forfeit any rights to edit, manipulate or any claims to my image to any of the recordings made of the debate.
Pretty clear, don't ya think?
BGS, the surest definition of a loser is someone who spells it "looser". Whassamatter, Butch? Did somebody pull your panties up too high?
Who appointed you the spokesperson for Carol Brouillet?
I don't remember the context of any remarks I may have made about Willie's charisma. Since he doesn't have any, it must have been a joke.
Sabba, I don't need any time to prepare for a debate with Willie.
His stupid lies destroy themselves essentially in free fall.
Ian, Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me. He never has debated me and I have no reason to think he ever will.
Sabba, your belief that the poster who uses the name "William Rodriguez" is Willie R, the 9/11 fraudster who has the website william911.com, only shows how unintelligent you are.
You're Willie's bitch now, Brian.
The challenge to debate has been issued and you've chickened out like the punk-ass pussy that you are.
Willie's a hero. Brian's a zero.
I haven't chickened out on anything.
Willie for almost four years now has run away and refused to answer my questions, hiding behind sock puppets, lying shills, and a human shield.
Here I am. Here Willie isn't. I'm nobody's bitch.
Willlie's bitch, Brian Good aka snug.bug said...
BGS, the surest definition of a loser is someone who spells it "looser". Whassamatter, Butch? Did somebody pull your panties up too high?
Oh look he found a spelling error, but did not find the guts to face Rodriguez on a debate. Minutia.
Who appointed you the spokesperson for Carol Brouillet?
The same person who appointed you to invite himself into a radio show that will NEVER EVER HOST YOU
I don't remember the context of any remarks I may have made about Willie's charisma. Since he doesn't have any, it must have been a joke.
Hahahahha changing your context now eh?
Shows how big of a liar you are.
Sabba, I don't need any time to prepare for a debate with Willie.
His stupid lies destroy themselves essentially in free fall.
Right Brian, we believe you now, you have totally convinced us of your self assurance. NOT!
Ian, Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me. He never has debated me and I have no reason to think he ever will.
Ad nauseum, keep denying it to save your ass... I will let Ian answer you on that instead.
Sabba, your belief that the poster who uses the name "William Rodriguez" is Willie R, the 9/11 fraudster who has the website william911.com, only shows how unintelligent you are.
it has been corroborated by me and others, and those still waiting can go and email him directly and supply a number , he will call you and also corroborate. Should I ask William to make a video recording of the Debate challenge addressed to you? will that convince you or are you afraid we will use "voice morphing" technology plus "video fakery" to create a "fake" WROD with accent and all?
Clock is ticking. your image is scrumbling, oh wait, what image?
Sabba, here I am. Where is Willie? He's afraid to answer my questions, just as he's been afraid for nearly 4 years.
How do you know Carol Brouillet will not host the debate?
Willie has no charisma, as his fat ass on Jesse Ventura clearly showed.
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me. He never has debated me and I have no reason to think he ever will.
Sabba, the alleged corroboration by anonymous internet posters is not worth the paper their opinions are not written on. If Willie R, the lying 9/11 fraudster, wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly.
why will he debate you as an Internet typer? He wants to face you , real time. I agree that should be the right thing to do since it has been showed here how deranged and repetitious you are and he does not have the time to be back and forth with your stupidity.
Are you ready to answer his questions as well?
He wants to produce some evidence as well against you, so you both can have a go at each other.
when can we arrange it bitch?
Willie has no charisma, as his fat ass on Jesse Ventura clearly showed.
Willies lying bitch, Brian Good,says:
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me. He never has debated me and I have no reason to think he ever will. you see how you keep blabbing the same bullshit. Talk about repetitious! Tell us when can you agree to the debate.
Sabba, the alleged corroboration by anonymous internet posters is not worth the paper their opinions are not written on. If Willie R, the lying 9/11 fraudster, wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly.
Get it trough your head bitch, the guy publicly, Challenged you here to face him on a debate. All you need to do is say YES and set a date. Before mid July.
Or are you that busy?????
Brian "the Lying Bitch" Good says:Willie has no charisma, as his fat ass on Jesse Ventura clearly showed. that is not what you said before about the Charismatic Hero (your words!) and YOU may notice his overweight now, at least if the guy exercise and go on a diet , he may loose the pounds, in your case, no matter what you do, you cannot loose your stupidity.
Where is Willie? He's afraid to answer my questions
Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me.
the alleged corroboration by anonymous internet posters is not worth the paper their opinions are not written on. If Willie R, the lying 9/11 fraudster, wants to debate me, he needs to contact me directly.
Ban his ass. Now.
Ian, Willie doesn't have the guts to debate me. He never has debated me and I have no reason to think he ever will.
You're a liar, petgoat. That's why the widows will never have their questions answered. HA HA HA HA HA!!!
sabba, real time debates are a bad idea when one of the parties will abuse the opportunity by lying. That is why I insist on a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show, so that she will have edit power over Willie's lies.
What you call "back and forth with your stupidity" is simply questions, answer, and commentary. Willie has been too cowardly to answer my questions now for almost four years.
If Willie wants to challenge me, he needs to communicate with me directly. I am not interested in communicating with him through his sock puppets.
Anything I said about Willie's charisma was probably a joke. Willie certainly has a gut, but in four years it has not translated into enough guts to debate me. I offered years ago to have a debate with Willie on Carol Brouillet's radio show. Willie doesn't have the guts.
Sabba, with your permission, let me answer the Yenta Brian Good.
sabba, real time debates are a bad idea when one of the parties will abuse the opportunity by lying.
Yes , we can see that clearly about you.
That is why I insist on a debate on Carol Brouillet's radio show, so that she will have edit power over Willie's lies.
Wow so much for the truth! Can triterope post this comment on the stundies? edit power...wow.
Rodriguez gave away the right to edit, manipulate or influence the coverage of the debate and you are asking for editing power from a person you stalked?
What you call "back and forth with your stupidity" is simply questions, answer, and commentary. Willie has been too cowardly to answer my questions now for almost four years.
Now I understand much better why you are so ignored by so many people.
If Willie wants to challenge me, he needs to communicate with me directly. I am not interested in communicating with him through his sock puppets.
He did and publicly here. Not sock puppets but the real person that you choose to ignore
Anything I said about Willie's charisma was probably a joke.
now you accept you indeed called him charismatic hero, after denying it for so long. It woulg have been easier for you to say that you changed your opinions about his charisma, but you choose to lie about what you have said. Any typos?
GO Ahead BGS!
Lol! Yenta Brian Good it is!
It is widely recognized in the truth movement that in the debating forums the anti-truthers accuse the truthers of doing what the anti-truthers are themselves doing.
Thus if UtterFail is going to lie, he first accuses me of being a liar. If Willie is going to distract from the issue of his fraudulent hero schtick by employing gossipy ad hominems, then first I'll be accused of being a Yenta.
Exposing Willie's claims for lies is not gossip.
Your belief that the anonymous internet poster using the name "William Rodriguez" is the same person as the 9/11 fraudster who lied on C-Span is not justified, sabba. If Willie wants to communicate with me he needs to contact me directly.
Willie's internet charisma and his in-person persona are two entirely separate propositions.
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oh wait you want it in first person...
I , Willie Rodriguez challenge you again to a live debate here at screwloosechnge.
The Palo Alto Pud Huffing Pinocchio prevaricates, "...Thus if UtterFail is going to lie, he first accuses me of being a liar."
There's only one problem, goat fucker. I don't lie, and I have no need to lie.
That you twist and distort my argument and then accuse me of lying doesn't make me a liar--you twisted homosexual psychopath.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
double ouchhhhhh! Brian you better show you Face live!
Damn! Brian, you keep avoiding the challenge here. William is offering you to debate you live here and you still trying to wriggle out of it! Funny when Willie is the one calling you his BITCH!!!! Gold! Pure Gold!
"William Rodriguez", the fact that you think that I should recognize you, an anonymous internet poster, as the 9/11 con artist who lied repeatedly on C-Span is just silly.
The "William Rodriguez" poster can say anything he wants and then the wtcbill, william911 person can simply deny it was him.
If Willie R wants to communicate with me, he'll need to do so directly.
UtterFail you lie stupidly. Nearly as stupidly as William Rodriguez, and that's saying something.
Hey Brian, I called Carol yesterday to check things out and compare notes. I also corroborated certain things and I am totally sure that she will not have you on her show. If you think I am lying, go ahead, communicate directly with her.
Find out if I did or did not call. GO ahead, nobody else's knows that but her and me and now everybody. She does not talks to you, and will not talk to you.
And yes , I want you to face me and I want to expose your lies that you have denied here as well. Even and fair.
I do not have all the time for worms like you so better take this opportunity and make your case once and for all.
Still lying, goat fucker?
If I say x and you turn around and falsely accuse me of saying y, that doesn't make me a liar--your inability to pass a formal examination in elementary logic notwithstanding.
The only thing you've managed to prove is that you're a lying idiot who couldn't hold a job mopping floors.
You're living proof that reincarnation is a reality, goat fucker. After all, nobody can be as stupid as you in one lifetime.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
"William Rodriguez", there is no reason to believe anything you say. Either you are passing yourself off as someone you are not, or you are the proven liar and fraud William Rodriguez.
I haven't lied about anything. If William Rodriguez the 9/11 con artist wants to communicate with me he'll have to do so directly.
you still do not recognize me? maybe this should help: (headers and everything)
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I am not trying to start a fight, I am trying to finish one. I understand your wish to avoid conflict,
but allowing Willie to post as if he was just another activist is an implicit endorsement that will mislead
newbies.
Willie has made a career out of lying about 9/11 all over the world, stealing his glory from the
dead. For years he allowed us to repeat to the press his claim that he had single-handedly rescued
fifteen (15) persons. When asked for details (when, where, who, how) he reacted with belligerence
and attempts to intimidate. Finally he removed that claim from his website, in effect admitting that
he made liars of us for years--enormously damaging our credibility. I bet Michael Krasny will never
take Carol seriously again after she tried to get him to interview Willie.
I don't think a Truth movement should tolerate people who tell lies to induce people to give them
money. If Willie has mended his ways, let him prove it by admitting that he lied, acknowledging
exactly what he lied about, and by pledging not to lie any more.
I would welcome the opportunity to discuss my differences with Willie in a civilized manner. It is
he that has refused to do so, hiding behind slandering sock-puppets. I have refused his demands
that I engage him in real time (in person or on the radio) because real time gives the advantage
to liars. I want to engage him in writing because writing gives the advantage to truth.
need more?
Lying again, goat fucker?
Willie the Rod is a Hero. YOU are a proven liar, con artist and fraud.
Got it, psychopath?
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Thanks Guitarbill. Please do send me an email to my recognized email at wtcbill@gmail.com or through the contact info at Http://william911.com I will answer you with my ip on headers so you can tell this idiot if Iam who I am.
Brian Good, Let Pat Curley knows when you are sure enough to face me and we can have your debate. I usually do not give time of the day to idiots but you are an exception since you have more time doing this. Remember, you have until Mid- July to face me, but please, take a decision fast since I need to make plans for more important things. No restrictions on my part Brian Good, as a matter of fact, you can ask anything you want! as crazy as it is! I will do my best to answer your questions, I expect the same thing from you. Please bring any documents, even witnesses! to back you up! I will present evidence of your lies on other issues that have been exposed here without as well as a counterpoint. Your collaboration to addressed them is up to you. Let the audience decide with all the evidence we can provide to sustain our positions who is telling the truth and who is not. If I have been incorrect about anything I will accept it and if I changed my views on certain topics I will be honest about it as well. I expect the same thing from you ( I doubt it!). Set the date!
UtterFail, whatever Willie Rodriguez may have been on 9/11, he has certainly been no hero since--refusing to answer questions, hiding behind sock puppets and lying shills and the human shield of Carol Brouillet.
William Rodriguez's hero tale is a lie, and he steals his glory from the dead. He had a good run for a few years. He was good looking and he seemed to be an idealist and nobody could imagine that anyone who was there could be depraved enough to lie about it.
But now he's been proven to be a liar and a fraud and his nice run is done.
Says whom, goat fucker?
A lying homosexual psychopath, proven liar, sex stalker and home wrecker who wouldn't tell the truth in order to save his life?
Your word isn't worth a plug nickle.
Willie the Rod will rip you to shreds in a debate, goat fucker.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
WR, I don't understand your point. The email doesn't prove that you are the 9/11 fraudster Willie Rodriguez. It certainly wasn't addressed to Willie, since it refers to him in the third person instead of the second.
Thanks Guitarbill. Please do send me an email to my recognized email at wtcbill@gmail.com or through the contact info at Http://william911.com I will answer you with my ip on headers so you can tell this idiot if Iam who I am.
@Brian Good, Let Pat Curley know when you are sure enough to face me and we can have your debate. I usually do not give time of the day to idiots but you are an exception since you have more time doing this. Remember, you have until Mid- July to face me, but please, take a decision fast since I need to make plans for more important things. No restrictions on my part Brian Good, as a matter of fact, you can ask anything you want! as crazy as it is! I will do my best to answer your questions, I expect the same thing from you. Please bring any documents, even witnesses! to back you up! I will present evidence of your lies on other issues that have been exposed here as well as a counterpoint. Your collaboration to address them is up to you. Let the audience decide with all the evidence we can provide to sustain our positions who is telling the truth and who is not. If I have been incorrect about anything I will accept it and if I changed my views on certain topics I will be honest about it as well. I expect the same thing from you ( I doubt it!). Set the date!
Willie the Rod's post at 13:05 nails you to the wall, goat fucker.
Willie even included the mail headers, which is proof positive of the authenticity of the evidence he presents against you.
So when are YOU going to live up to your promise to debate him, goat fucker?
Pussy.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
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Willie's lying Bitch Brian Good AKA:snug.bug said...
WR, I don't understand your point. The email doesn't prove that you are the 9/11 fraudster Willie Rodriguez. It certainly wasn't addressed to Willie, since it refers to him in the third person instead of the second. Obviously on your stalking you send it to other people and cc'd him, somebody pleaseeeeeeeeee teach this asshole how to read headers!
THE PLOT THICKENS!!!!
UtterFail, your belief that the email proves anything is only proof of your incompetence. Obviously it was not addressed to Willie, since it refers to him in the third person. Therefore our anonymous poster "William_Rodriguez" could have gotten the email from somebody else. If William Rodriguez wishes to communicate with me, he should do so directly.
Because Willie has shown a most unheroic tendency to use Carol Brouillet as a human shield, it is necessary to have the debate on her radio show so she will have edit power.
The goat fucker continues to lie and scribbles, "...UtterFail, your belief that the email proves anything is only proof of your incompetence. Obviously it was not addressed to Willie, since it refers to him in the third person. Therefore our anonymous poster "William_Rodriguez" could have gotten the email from somebody else."
You're lying, goat fucker.
Remember me, I'm the internet expert, not you, Mr. Janitor in a drum.
Proof?
The message was addressed to Kai Middleton on Wed, 4 Nov 2009 and CC'd by the recipient to Willie the Rod.
FACT: You're lying about the mail header. And I've forgotten more about reading SMTP headers than you'll ever know, goat fucker.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Willie's Yenta, Brian Good says:Therefore our anonymous poster "William_Rodriguez" could have gotten the email from somebody else. Oh really, and who will that be? let's see, you sent it to 5 people of the SF Group, do you suspect one in particular besides WRod? I got a copy from WR and it was sent to:
CC:
cbrouillet@....
netwright@ ....
howjon2001@...
kenjenkins@...
camilles2004@
wrtcbill@gmail.com...
not a big list. I believe Rodriguez just exposed another one of your lies.
You were sending him copies of all your bullshit , until he blocked you. Pathetic liar yenta, brian Good.
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Kai Middleton CC'd your mail to Willie the Rod seconds later as the mail headers prove.
Again, from the mail headers:
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Who do you think you're fooling, goat fucker? The message was addressed to Kai Middleton on Wed, 4 Nov 2009 and CC'd by the recipient, Kai Middleton, to Willie the Rod.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
That is, assuming that Willie wasn't already on the CC list to begin with. The CC list has been truncated, so I can't tell for sure.
Assuming the originating-IP from those headers is indeed snug's DSL IP, have a look here for a fascinating look into snug's life.
Here's a copy of the truncated CC list. Again, from the mail headers:
CC: , , ,
, ,
RGT wrote, "...Assuming the originating-IP from those headers is indeed snug's DSL IP"
RGT, the IP Addresses match.
From the "9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!" web page we find the following:
"...Follow also your IP. 63.199.155.82"
Source: http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Proof?
From Willie's post at 13:05, if we examine the mail headers we find the following:
"X-Originating-IP: [63.199.155.82]
From: Brian Good"
BUSTED!
That's proof positive the email wasn't forged.
RGT, the IP Addresses match.
Ah, I wasn't aware of the truthjihad info. OK.
In honor of snug.bug, who apparently makes himself unwelcome wherever he goes, please enjoy this happy little tune.
UtterFail, once again you prove your incompetence because you fail to consider that a header from one email can be pasted onto another email, and you fail to consider that even if the fraudster William Rodriguez got a copy of an email, that does not prove that the person who produces it here is Willie Rodriguez. By your logic anybody could copy the email off this forum and go to some other forum and offer the email as proof that they are Willie R.
You really aren't equipped for this, are you? Say, can I interest you in some distressed assets in Rwanda? I'll only need your bank account number and SSN and some expense funds.
Another idiotic lie from the goat fucker.
Yeah, Willie the Rod is an IT expert who can forge email headers so well that even I'm fooled. Man, you janitors are fuckin' geniuses!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You'd lie to your mother if you thought for one microsecond that you could gain an advantage from the lie.
Face it, goat fucker, you're a proven liar once again.
You're sickening and pathetic.
Now bury your latest pack of lies in another avalanche of gay squeal spam.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Squirm, goat fucker, squirm--you lying weasel.
Once again, your irrationality betrays you. Why would William Rodriguez forge an email to prove he's William Rodriguez?
Also, the header from one email can be imposed on text from another. I did not claim that the header was forged. I pointed out that the fact that the email exists does not prove that the person who produced it is one of the original recipients. Now anybody can copy it here and go to another forum and, by your logic, prove that they're the con artist William Rodriguez.
An email forgery is an email forgery--you lying charlatan.
Furthermore, it's not incumbent on me to prove whether Willie the Rod is lying or not. After all, I have no reason to believe that he's lying. You, on the other hand, are a proven liar and con artist. Thus, everything you write is subject to the most intense scrutiny, because you can't be trusted.
You are making the unsubstantiated accusation. Thus, the burden of proof falls on our shoulder's and your shoulder's alone--you illogical fool.
So where's your proof that "the header from one email [was] imposed on text from another"?
So far, you've offered nothing to substantiate your claim.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Squirm, goat fucker, squirm--you lying weasel.
UtterFail, I never claimed that the header was copied from another email. You, however, irrationally claimed that the header was proof that the person who produced the alleged email was the con artist Willie Rodriguez.
Now anybody can copy it here and go to another forum and, by your logic, prove that they're the con artist William Rodriguez.
The more you try to prove how smart you are the more you prove how dumb you are.
That's right, goat fucker, continue to repeat yourself and lie like a rug.
Again, asshole, you are making the unsubstantiated accusation. Thus, the burden of proof falls on our shoulder's and your shoulder's alone--you illogical fool.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Squirm, goat fucker, squirm--you lying weasel.
The gopat fucker continues to lie, and squeals, "...UtterFail, I never claimed that the header was copied from another email."
Really, Pinocchio? No kidding?
What's this, Pinocchio?
At 14:22 the goat fucker wrote--and I quote:
"...Also, the header from one email can be imposed on text from another."
Source: http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/05/screw-loose-change-to-host-debate.html#c7196583562865641504
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Once again, you're a proven liar and con artist who contradicts himself with abandon.
Once again, you FAIL
Grade: F-
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
http://www.truthjihad.com/good.htm
Squirm, goat fucker, squirm--you lying weasel.
@Guitarbill, here, more from Brian Good
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Howard, I consider personal attack to be a tactic inappropriate to our movement and
our mission. Personal attack is a "kill the messenger" tactic that shirks the responsibility
of responding to questions and arguments, and substitutes distracting and destructive
charges against the questioner.
For instance, if I claimed that no planes hit the twin towers, and you cited the evidence
that planes in fact did hit the towers, and I responded by calling you stupid and dishonest
and a government shill instead of refuting your evidence, that would be a personal attack.
When a man is a blatant liar, we have a different issue. I'm not pointing out Willie's
obvious dishonesty to make a tricky distraction from questions I don't want to face. And
I'm not pointing it out for devious and petty personal reasons. There's nothing personal
about it. Liars are bad for the truth movement. All liars.
Brian
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"...Liars are bad for the truth movement. All liars." -- Brian "goat fucker" Good.
The irony in that statement is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
The goat fucker is the kind of urchin who would murder his parents and beg the judge for leniency because he's a orphan. He's such an incorrigible psychopath that he'd feel not a bit of remorse for doing so.
Debate or ban, Brian.
I have to admit, this is getting boring. Brian is obviously too terrified of a public debate with Rodriguez and is going to do nothing but lie about it. Let's drop it. After all, Brian is most entertaining when he's babbling about modified attack baboons, magic thermite elves, invisible widows, smoldering carpets, and meatballs on forks.
So Brian, what makes you think modified attack baboons are real?
Ian, I can't agree.
The goat fucker has talked out of both sides of his mouth for so long that there's no way we should let him live this down. On one hand he claims that he'll debate Willie "any time, anywhere," and then when challenged to do so, he moves the goal post and claims that he'll only debate Willie on Carol Broulliet's show, while the goat fucker knows very well that Carol Broulliet won't come within a mile of the goat fucker because he tried to wreck her marriage.
No way should we let this one go. Either the goat fucker debates Willie the Rod as he promised, or ban the idiot.
UtterFail, when did I say I would debate Willie anytime, anywhere? I certainly never agreed to fly to New Jersey.
You're not competent to call me a liar because you can not perceive the truth. I didn't say the header was copied, I said it can be copied. Your inability to recognize the difference shows you to be incompetent.
boring Ian? I do not think so, it is getting better! look at this about the stalker on the group, where he was kicked out from of course! and he still dares to claim there is not WRod here! haahahahahahahahaha
http://groups.google.com/group/sf911truth/browse_thread/thread/614b36473b4edea5
The Many Faces of Brian Good:
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=22086&postcount=77
Brian Good Says: "A year ago Mr. Rodriguez made much of my reluctance to debate him. I had no wish for public attention, and I suspected that he would exploit any live debate to obscure the issues by making it a battle of personalities between the charismatic hero and the geeky trainspotter, and I was concerned that his ungentlemanly rhetoric was associated with a reckless disregard for the possibility of "collateral damage" to innocent third parties.
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=22094&postcount=79
Who am I backstabbing? Not William Rodriguez. I'm giving him an opportunity to clarify the issues and explain that he is not a liar. So where is he? Where's Annie? Where's Reprehensor? Where's Kevin? ...
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=22205&postcount=89
"I've probably had worse luck getting answers from Truthers than the Jersey widows had getting answers from the 9/11 Commission, and that's an indictment of the Truth movement."
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=22333&postcount=117
"I've offered to debate Annie Machon (any format) and Kevin Barrett (internet--NOT internet radio). I can't think of anyone I wouldn't debate on the subject of William Rodriguez's lies. Except maybe Combatant, who is clearly a waste of everyone's time. Where's Willie?"
http://www.911oz.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=22331&postcount=115
I'm facing Willie right here. Come and get me. Call me on the phone. Email me. Have your people call my people. Let's do lunch.
From earlier Haloscan at screwloosechange you were presented with this:
Jean-Luc Broulliet, husband of Carol, apparently dislikes you.
Here a note from YOU:
(Brian Good Says)Hi Carol,
Yesterday was fun for me, aside from Jean-Luc refusing to say
hello to me and you refusing to say good-bye. I didn't say anything
bad about you to anybody....
why don't they talk to you?
This has gone on long enough.
Brian insists is not Willie Rodriguez, despite William_Rodriguez quoting his own emails and his own IP address.
Brian has had enough time, both in terms of responding to this challenge, and in turning every thread here into the goddamn Brian Good Show.
Throw his ass out of here. Now.
TR, you're lying. I didn't "insist is not Willie Rodriguez". I said there was no reason to believe it was, and I pointed out that GutterBall's belief was just plane stoopid that quoting emails was proof of anything.
The reason you guys are so confused is because you don't know how to think.
Ban.
TR, you're lying. I didn't "insist is not Willie Rodriguez". I said there was no reason to believe it was, and I pointed out that GutterBall's belief was just plane stoopid that quoting emails was proof of anything.
Brian, there is plenty of reason to think it's Willie Rodriguez. You're just a pathetic liar and coward who doesn't want to debate him. You talk shit, but then squeal and squeal when someone challenges you on it. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.
The reason you guys are so confused is because you don't know how to think.
Squeal squeal squeal!
Ian, you're as incompetent as the rest here. I didn't say there was no reason to think it's Willie Rodriguez. I said there was no reason to believe it.
You guys are just playing dumb so you can accuse me of being contradictory and of lying.
Sabba, thanks for proving my point. Two years ago I was challenging Willie, Barrett, Annie Machon to answer questions. And none of them would do it. Willie is afraid of questions. He's been running and hiding from them for almost four years.
And clearly my bit about the "charismatic hero" was a joke.
Ban.
Brian should debate, or leave.
That's three for "debate or leave." Anyone else want on board, before this post falls of the front page without there being a debate?
count me in.
Four for debate or leave. Do I hear five?
Hey guys!!! do not forget me and my diligence (hehehehe Brian's words)!
Count me in too!
The problem I have here is that Willie is a liar and a fraud, he knows it, and so the only response he can offer is to attack the messenger and the only way he can do that is to lie about Carol Brouillet.
The only process I can see that protects Carol is to have the debate on her radio program so she has edit power. Any other process leaves her open to being hurt by a raging sociopath (Willie) who knows he's going down and doesn't care who he takes with him. I can't agree to any process that requires any faith that Willie will behave like a responsible gentleman.
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Brian Good says:
The problem I have here is that Willie is a liar and a fraud, he knows it, and so the only response he can offer is to attack the messenger and the only way he can do that is to lie about Carol Brouillet.
The only process I can see that protects Carol is to have the debate on her radio program so she has edit power. Any other process leaves her open to being hurt by a raging sociopath (Willie) who knows he's going down and doesn't care who he takes with him. I can't agree to any process that requires any faith that Willie will behave like a responsible gentleman.
Brian Good, different from you, I spoke to Carol yesterday and she will never have you on her show. She will never agree to editing the truth either, Carol is above that. She is a lady and understood that your attacks have gone beyond logical reasoning. Again, she will never, ever have you on her show. She does not speaks to you and she does not wants to talk to you either. I recommend you to also stop emailing her, is pathetic! can't you get a no for an answer? so for your own benefit, leave her alone once and for all. She is a happily married lady that do not need to deal with your obsessions.
Any other process leaves her open to being hurt by a raging sociopath (Willie) who knows he's going down and doesn't care who he takes with him.
going down? Last I checked, I have been on speaking terms with the lady, the opposite of your situation. It hasbeen what? almost 10 years?...and you have not stopped me, despite your insults, attacks, stalking, harrassment, calls and /or emails to event organizers, etc. When I stop it will be because of my decision. Not yours. I have kept traveling around the world and doing tours without preaching your bullshit and theories that only you understand. Despite of course, of all your lies here that , thanks to you, I have not done anything since ..2009? laughable.
I can't agree to any process that requires any faith that Willie will behave like a responsible gentleman.
Interesting coming from somebody who has called me every name in the book, not only here on this blog, but all over the internet. Now that I challenge you, you are calling for civility? No problem, I said to you on a previous post:
William Rodriguez says:@Brian Good, Let Pat Curley know when you are sure enough to face me and we can have your debate. I usually do not give time of the day to idiots but you are an exception since you have more time doing this. Remember, you have until Mid- July to face me, but please, take a decision fast since I need to make plans for more important things. No restrictions on my part Brian Good, as a matter of fact, you can ask anything you want! as crazy as it is! I will do my best to answer your questions, I expect the same thing from you. Please bring any documents, even witnesses! to back you up! I will present evidence of your lies on other issues that have been exposed here as well as a counterpoint. Your collaboration to address them is up to you. Let the audience decide with all the evidence we can provide to sustain our positions who is telling the truth and who is not. If I have been incorrect about anything I will accept it and if I changed my views on certain topics I will be honest about it as well. I expect the same thing from you ( I doubt it!). Set the date!"
But now since I see you are playing a cat and mouse game here, I will only give you until this Wednesday to decide if you are going to accept my challenge or not. I think everybody has lost enough of their time waiting for you to be true to your own words. What is it going to be? I am ready to face you and expose your lies, and you?
Remember, until Wednesday.
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Remember, until Wednesday.
Triterope wrote, "...That's three for "debate or leave." Anyone else want on board, before this post falls of the front page without there being a debate?"
I'm in, Triterope. Either the goat fucker agrees to the debate, or ban the psychopath. Enough is enough--period.
Willie Fraud, you don't speak for Carol, you don't tell me what to do. You lie about 9/11, stealing your glory from the dead, and there is no reason to believe anything you say. I'm not asking for civility. I'm not asking for anything. Believe me there are a lot more names in the book that I haven't called you yet.
You have not made clear what your challenge is. Your claim that ScrewLooseChange is a neutral venue is a lie, and a very unintelligent one. They hate my guts here because I make fools of them. They love you because you fulfil their image of the lying con artist truther out to make a dirty buck by lying about 9/11.
You have shown that you have no honor, no concern for collateral damage. There is no defense for your lies, and your only possible response is to try to kill the messenger by lying about Carol. That is why Carol needs to have edit power over the debate--because you can not be trusted to leave her out of it.
Willie has not made clear what he's proposing. Face to face? On stage? Who's going to rent a hall? Who will pay to see a washed-up con artist try to lie his way back into respectability? Nobody.
No need for grandiosity. I've already proven ten times over that his story is a lie. Let's just talk it over on the phone, let Carol have the edit, and we're done.
Remember, until Wednesday.
Sounds like a reasonable deadline to me. That would be a week from the original post.
Debate or GTFO, Brian.
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Willie has not given me enough information so that I even know what his proposal is. Where? Who pays? What format? I'm not agreeing to give Willie a blank check.
UtterFail, Carol is complaining about what she perceived to be my attitude. She was wrong about my attitude. The only complaint about my behaviour is that I was attacking W-Fraud and Barrett for their recklessness and dishonesty. She perceived my attacks on them as attacks on her, because she considered these two sociopaths friends.
I have exposed you repeatedly as a liar, as irrational, as a negligent researcher, and generally incompetent and you, like Willie, are using Carol as a human shield.
Brian Good says:Willie Fraud, you don't speak for Carol, you don't tell me what to do. You lie about 9/11, stealing your glory from the dead, and there is no reason to believe anything you say. I'm not asking for civility. I'm not asking for anything. Believe me there are a lot more names in the book that I haven't called you yet.
but , previous to that he said:
I can't agree to any process that requires any faith that Willie will behave like a responsible gentleman.
are you insane?
I am still here in New York, working with 9/11 Family Groups, not only mine, but most of the other groups here and not regarding your stupid issues. There is more out here we are a dealing with than your idiotic views. Still dealing with survivors directly and still dealing with first responders. I am still commanding National and International Media Coverage, more than you and your admired activists, combined. So, it is a fact that you will not be doing me a favor by accepting my challenge to debate me, but all the way around. I do not hide behind a keyboard claiming to speak for the 9/11 widows, you don't. You speak about them, I know them. The difference between you and me and your perceived lies, is that I am still in contact with people from The Port Authority, Survivors and family members that you can find on my FB page, regularly posting. My ex bosses are also there. It will be a swell time if you can come up with your stupid theories to the the Port Authority Family Yearly Picnic at the end of the month and try to discredit me in front of them! By the way some of the widows you talk so much about, are also on my page.Tsk Tsk.
Remember, you have until Wednesday.
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Face to face, I will pay for the venue, the Airline tickets to go to San Francisco and yes, your car fare since you have no money to travel and your car is in need of work.
Pat Curley will be the moderator, it will presented live and recorded as well. You can have slides, documents and witnesses, either in person or recorded to back you up. Each one will have a set of questions and a set of rebuttals. In my case, you can ask anything you want , including if I am married or not, for your own kinks of course.
Remember, you have until Wednesday.
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I am not asking you for anything. I am demanding a process that protects Carol's interests, because clearly the only response you can offer to the fact that you're a fraud is to raise distracting lies about Carol.
If Carol has edit power over a radio debate, then her interests are served. Another option would be to do it at 911blogger or visibility911, where moderators could watch out for your very unheroic tendency to use Carol as a human shield.
I never claimed to speak for the widows. Your lies about 9/11 are not serving the truth movement, but only making your supporters look foolish and alienating the press. Cops, firemen, janitors, architects and security guards can all instantly see your story is a scam.
I don't have any stupid theories. If you have the support of family members, why then will none of them speak up for you? You tell them to call me, and I will show them that you are a fraud and an embarrassment to the truth movement.
Your proposal does not properly protect Carol's interests because it leaves you free to lie about her.
Better would be Carol's radio show, 911blogger, or visibility911.
Brian Good snug.bug says:I am not asking you for anything. I am demanding a process that protects Carol's interests, because clearly the only response you can offer to the fact that you're a fraud is to raise distracting lies about Carol.
You made lies that have to be cleared about Carol, so what are you afraid of?
Funny that you also said: UtterFail, Carol is complaining about what she perceived to be my attitude. She was wrong about my attitude. The only complaint about my behaviour is that I was attacking W-Fraud and Barrett for their recklessness and dishonesty. She perceived my attacks on them as attacks on her, because she considered these two sociopaths friends.
Carol does not talks to you, or wants to talk to you Brian, is she lying?
If Carol has edit power over a radio debate, then her interests are served.
It shows how good you know her. She will not, as bad as it is, manipulate the statements of anybody, as you constantly do.
If Carol won't do it on her radio show, we can do it at 9/11 blogger or visibility911 where moderators can watch out for Carol's interests.
Guess what!, I just called Michael Wosley from Visibility9/11 and he agrees to host the live debate as well!
Since the invitation started here, I expect Patrick Curley to be part of it.
You have until tomorrow. I think I have been more than accomodating.
I never claimed to speak for the widows. Your lies about 9/11 are not serving the truth movement, but only making your supporters look foolish and alienating the press. Cops, firemen, janitors, architects and security guards can all instantly see your story is a scam.
Yawn....
I don't have any stupid theories.
right, Mr. Fork and meatball guy.
If you have the support of family members, why then will none of them speak up for you? I meet with them regularly. More than you do. Why will I have to ask them to validate me?
You tell them to call me, and I will show them that you are a fraud and an embarrassment to the truth movement.
So, you want me to help you contact them? You need also help to call C-Span?
Do you want me to mediate so you can finally are able to talk to Carol?
Screwloosechange, Visibilty9/11, both. I go for that.
You have until tomorrow.
I hope the debate deals with facts and not personalities! Say, the anthrax was traced to U.S. Army facility, why can't we all agree to trace where the nano-thermite was manufactured?
W-Fraud, I didn't lie about anything.
You, however, have built a career on lies.
I'm not interested in gossiping about Carol as you and GutterBall are. Did you share her private emails with Pat? Did you have her permission to do that?
Giving Carol edit power is not about manipulating statements. It's about cutting out your lies to avoid damage to her. Your employment of Carol as a human shield has been reckless, selfish, dishonest, and most unheroic.
Hey Brian, my bitch, why don't you keep your insults for our debate?
You have until tomorrow.
Farid, Kevin Ryan's paper "The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites" names the Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head as one of the few sources for aluminum nanopowder as of 1999.
Willie R's buddy Kevin Barrett had a radio guest who claimed that the nanothermite was manufactured in an Israeli paint factory, but I never listened to the program and I don't know if he had any actual evidence for this notion. Beware--Barrett is a bigot who once characterized the holocaust as "toasting six million Jews" and he's also a liar, so you need to check his facts very carefully.
The possibility that the stuff was manufactured outside of the normal military and industrial channels should be examined, and I wish I had time. I wonder if scrap hard drive platters employed as abrasives, for instance, might produce aluminum nanoparticles.
I too would hope that the debate would focus on facts and not personalities, but since Willie can not defend himself on the basis of the facts, I'm sure he'll operate on the "How dare you call me a liar, you goat molester" level at which most of the posters in this forum operate.
Farid said...
I hope the debate deals with facts and not personalities! Say, the anthrax was traced to U.S. Army facility, why can't we all agree to trace where the nano-thermite was manufactured?
Hey Farid, Rodriguez have been insulted by a stalker and he has the right to defends himself and the right to insult the Bitch back! Brian invoked Carol's name in almost 2 years on this blog. It is fair that clarification is done of who is lying and why. And, yes, it is about personalities as Brian clearly said, willie's charismatic hero persona and Brian's aging, hair receding look. (his words in another forum).
W-Fraud, I'm sorry you consider my objective description of your behavior insulting, but that's your doing, not my fault.
You didn't answer my question. Did you share Carol's private emails with Pat? Did you have her permission to do that?
Sabba, I haven't invoked Carol's name. Since she's an activist, not a researcher, there's been no reason to.
willie's bitch Brian Good says:
I too would hope that the debate would focus on facts and not personalities, but since Willie can not defend himself on the basis of the facts, I'm sure he'll operate on the "How dare you call me a liar, you goat molester" level at which most of the posters in this forum operate.
oh come on Brian the Liar! do you really , really, really wants us to cut and paste all the shit you have called W-Rod here? a reader all it has to do is go back to your comments in this and other posts to see who started calling who names.
William_Rodriguez says:Guess what!, I just called Michael Wosley from Visibility9/11 and he agrees to host the live debate as well!
wow, the ever expanding possibilities! the plot thickens!
Brian Good says:snug.bug said...
W-Fraud, I'm sorry you consider my objective description of your behavior insulting, but that's your doing, not my fault.
Ok, whatever you say my alleged Gay Bitch, stalker.
You didn't answer my question...
ask anything you want when you debate me, Loser.
you have until tomorrow.
"...Say, the anthrax was traced to U.S. Army facility, why can't we all agree to trace where the nano-thermite was manufactured?"
That's an easy one to answer: The "nanothermite" was manufactured in Steven Jones' ass.
The goat molester scribbles, "...Farid, Kevin Ryan's paper 'The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites'"
How cute. The psychopath cites his fellow psychopath, water boy.
Willie's Bitch, Brian Good, aka:snug.bug says: Willie R's buddy Kevin Barrett had a radio guest...
Who cares bitch, you forget that WR is also a buddy of Steven Jones, don't ya?
so is Richard Gage and so is Carol.
TOMORROW!!! we know you are going to say YES!!!
Willie's bitch said: You didn't answer my question. Did you share Carol's private emails with Pat? Did you have her permission to do that?
for your legal information BITCH, if you send me unsolicited mail to my personal inbox , I have all the rights to share it with the world. I hope this is the case with any emails about your nuttiness, with headers and everything so you can claim is not yours or that it is cut and pasted.
Tomorrow!! I am so excited!
Sabba, it's not a question of legal rights. It's a question of ethics, something I'm sure you know nothing about. If Willy is sharing Carol's emails around without her permission, that's very sleazy. It's not surprising, though, 'cause a guy who will lie about 9/11 will do just about anything.
Willy, Michael Wolsey is very slow to get back to me. What did he say about the particulars?
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