Landing Gear from 9/11 Attacks Found in NYC

Let the illogical and incoherent conspiracy theories begin. Here is the story.

 NEW YORK — A rusted 5-foot-tall piece of landing gear believed to be from one of the hijacked planes destroyed in the Sept. 11 attacks has been discovered near the World Trade Center wedged between a luxury apartment building and a mosque site that once prompted virulent national debate about Islam and free speech.
 The twisted metal part, jammed in an 18-inch-wide sliver of open space between the buildings, has cables and levers on it and is about 17 inches wide and 4 feet long, New York Police Department Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Friday.

Update: Turns out the part was from the wing, not the landing gear. OMG! Coverup!

Airline technicians have determined that wreckage believed to be from one of the planes that crashed in to the World Trade Center is not part of the landing gear, but a piece that is critical to supporting a wing on the aircraft, the New York City Police department said on Monday.
A technician for Boeing con firmed to NYPD detectives  that the wreckage is a “trailing edge flap actuation support structure from a Boeing 767,” NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said in a release.
The wreckage, believed to be from one of two Boeing 767 airliners destroyed on Sept. 11, 2001, was found last week wedged behind a lower Manhattan building.
Surveyors inspecting the back of 51 Park Place, several blocks from Ground Zero, found the rusted plane part with a Boeing identification number and other debris wedged between the buildings, police said.
Police believe the flap is from one of the two planes that struck the World Trade Center, but have not been able to determine which plane, Browne said.

This 'N' That

A very funny conspiracy theory flowchart here. The only problem with it is that most of the CT'ists we run into believe in five or more of these conspiracy theories.

How's Operation Tip Richard Gage's Wallet going? Not so hot:



Despite the failure of the "teams" they've raised about $7,500 from the rubes so far.  Assuming the matching funds don't have a minimum requirement that gives them $15,000 to spend so far; that would buy them about one 15-second ad on the Daily Show.

Bombing Suspect #1: Alex Jones Fan

Another non-surprise:

The AP reported on Tuesday that Tsarnaev "took an interest" in Infowars and was also interested in getting a copy of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the anti-Semitic fraud that purports to show a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world.

The Next Governor of Nevada....

Will not be David Vanderbeek, despite Richard Gage's ringing endorsement:

Gubernatorial candidate and “next governor of Nevada,” David Vanderbeek, was contacted and agreed to interview Gage on his TV show, “Occupy Freedom,” on Channel 30, which reaches into Las Vegas on DirecTV.

During the interview, Vanderbeek made a bold declaration:

“Let me be 100% crystal clear with all of you. I will not apologize for pursuing the truth of the 9/11 attacks. I will not apologize for pursuing the truth in any endeavor. THE TRUTH WILL GO WHEREVER I GO. 9/11 TRUTH WILL GO WHEREVER I GO.”

That’s the kind of Governor we need – in every state of the Union!

Vanderbeek is a classic conspiracy nutbar; check out his page for when he was running for the Senate. He's the classic "Lay's Potato Chips" kook; he can't just eat one, he's gotta have the whole bag: Federal Reserve, NDAA, 9-11 Troof, Anti-Vaccines, Anti-Fluoride, Chemtrails, Obama Birther, Bilderbergs (sic), you name it
he believes it.  On the positive side, he does promise to ban child trafficking, devil worship and human sacrifice.  Courageous stands indeed!

Although he appears reasonably normal in the picture on that site, you can see from this video that he's got the creative facial hair thing going:


In that senate election, he did manage to get almost 5% of the vote, ranking him third, just slightly ahead of "None of the Above" which garnered 4.5% of the vote.  It's pretty obvious that the voters of Nevada were a little cranky about the choices they got in that election, but not cranky enough to elect a buffoon like Vanderbeek.

Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect #2: 9-11 Truther

Well, I wish I could say this was a surprise, but we've seen it so often now that it's become somewhat routine:

A cached profile photo that matches his picture, and tweets from other users he's interacted with suggest that this is the twitter account of 19-year-old Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, the fugitive suspect #2 in the Boston Marathon bombings: @J_tsar. The account is listed under the name "Jahar," which is what classmates called him because his full name was hard to pronounce.

 Here's his 9-11 Truth Tweet:

 Idk why it's hard for many of you to accept that 9/11 was an inside job, I mean I guess f*ck the facts y'all are some real #patriots #gethip

 Kind of makes the previously revealed fact that he obtained his US citizenship ten days later, on September 11, 2012 a little more ironic.

 Update: And the Willie Nelson theory checks out as well:

The younger Boston Marathon bombing suspect seemed more interested in blunts than bombs while in college in Massachusetts, his classmate told POLITICO on Friday.
“He didn’t seem like a dangerous person at all,” said Chris Barry, a sophomore at UMass-Dartmouth, who became friends with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev — now a bombing suspect — on their first day of school. “He was a pothead, a normal pothead. I couldn’t even imagine him being mad at someone, let alone hurting someone.”

 Update II: Like mother, like son:

Kilzer also claims that the mother's beliefs increasingly made her uncomfortable, which partially led to her ceasing to visit Tsarnaeva in 2012:

"She started quoting conspiracy theories, telling me that she thought 9-11 was purposefully created by the American government to make America hate muslims. “It’s real,” she said, “My son knows all about it. You can read on the internet.” I have to say I felt kind of scared and vulnerable when she said this, as I am distinctly American, and was lying practically naked in her living room."

 And the aunt:

An aunt of the men suspected of carrying out Monday’s bombing of the Boston Marathon on Friday said that she had a hunch that the FBI may have staged a photo of her nephews at the scene of the crime, and she also had doubts about the official story behind the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.
Speaking to reporters at her home in Toronto, Maret Tsarnaeva told reporters that she had contacted the FBI after seeing photos and video that the agency released of 19-year-old Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev and 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev because she strongly believed that they could not have committed the crime.

 Hat Tip: Puppycow at JREF.

Infowars Idiot Interrupts FBI Press Conference

You would think their security would be good enough to limit press conferences to actual members of the press.

One Way to Handle the Nutters

With the recent bombings in Boston, it doesn't take a genius to predict that the conspiracy nutters are going to be all over it, with Alex Jones leading the pack.  This guy decided to preempt them by registering http://bostonmarathonconspiracy.com/ before they could.  Unfortunately, they can still come up with millions of other ways to spread their inanity.

And The Winner Is....

Actually I am not sure that's the winner; it's just one of the top ten vote-getters, and the first posted with the announcement. I'm always amused at the exhortation to do the math; what is the solution? Is it 1.5? And anyway, their numbers are off to begin with; there were more than three buildings destroyed on 9-11, including St. Nick's and the Marriott hotel. WTC 4, 5 and 6 were also destroyed; what's the math on them?

Update: Ian points out in the comments that the building identified with a "3" on that photo is not even WTC-7; that's actually One Liberty Plaza. In fact, as best as I can determine, WTC-7 is the building just to the left of WTC-1 (in shadow).

How typical of the Troofer idiots; they can't even identify the right building.

Oh, and here's an update on the money situation:

We’re excited to announce…

We’ve already raised over $100,000 in matching money!

  Um, wasn't that the amount they had raised before this campaign?

When Will They Make Up Their Alleged Minds?

Box Boy Gage publishes another article supposedly debunking the latest version of the Popular Mechanics book.  Get this part:

PM refers to Barry Jennings as the sole witness to explosions in connection with the destruction of Building 7, when in fact that is completely untrue. There are several other individuals who claimed to have heard explosions right before and during the time Building 7 collapsed, including first responders Kevin McPadden⁷ and Craig Bartmer⁸.

So now we're back to explosions?  Remember two years ago, Gage debated Chris Mohr at the University of Colorado (Boulder) where there was this exchange:

Further along in the debate, after Gage showed the WTC 7 collapse video adjacent to a known controlled demolition Chris Mohr, ignored the visual similarity and noted that “they sound completely different”.

Gage: Well, of course they do. One is using high-energy explosives, and the other thermate, an incendiary. This is, after all, a deceptive, controlled demolition.

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Latest Poll: LIHOP At 11%

Public Policy Polling did a survey of various conspiracy theories; 9-11 Trutherism fell way down the list:

5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

Some may get annoyed at a few of the questions designated as conspiracy theories; for example:

Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

While conservatives will probably not be happy with this one being included:

37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

Personally I don't think it's a hoax, but I do think that the media has overstated the negative consequences at times and completely failed to set the proper example on many occasions. My personal favorite was when NBC sent Meredith Viera and a camera crew (and I'm sure a makeup specialist and other support personnel) to Australia to do a special live report about how serious global warming is. Hello!

The one question that I think they completely blew is this one:

Do you believe aliens exist, or not?

I certainly believe alien life forms exist somewhere in the universe; I do not believe they have visited Earth.

BTW, there are some interesting results on the 9-11 question in the crosstabs. The young (18-29) are much more likely to believe in the LIHOP theories than the old (over 65) by 18%-7%. There's not a huge difference between very liberal (14%) and very conservative (11%) on the question; moderates were the least likely to say yes at 8%. More Obama voters (13%) than Romney voters (8%) said yes to LIHOP; that may be more due to the age differences than anything else.