As Seen in Vanity Fair's August 2006 Issue!
As Seen in US News & World Report's September 11 Fifth Anniversary Issue!
As Seen in Time Magazine's September 11, 2006 Issue!
As Seen in Phoenix New Times' August 9, 2007 Issue!
The most tangible and encouraging development of the conference was Zwicker’s revelation that Canadian and international legal experts are moving forward with what they call the “11/11 Project” for an international inquest on the mass crimes of September 11. “11/11” refers to November 11, 2011 -- one month after the projected date of the announcement of the inquest’s judgment on Sept. 11, 2011 -- “when,” Zwicker said with his signature grin and twinkle, “all of our goals will have been achieved.”
No, that doesn't add up; one month after 9-11-11 is 10-11-11, but then expecting sense out of Honegger is like expecting the truth out of Joe Isuzu And I do have to chuckle a little bit at the proposed date: 11-11-11!
One of our commenters griped about my mention of Barbara Honegger in the previous post, and suggested:
Simple test: register at a large truther site or forum that has a track record of not putting up with the fringies and ask what they think of Honegger.
Well, I hardly think that TruthAction would accept my registration. But let's look at some of the larger Truth sites and see what they have to say about the Munchkin.
Ray McGovern, (see above) will be among the featured speakers at the evening presentation, along with Nancy Murray, Director of Education for the Massachusetts chapter of the ACLU. Military analyst and former aide to President Reagan, Barbara Honegger, and Donna Marsh O'Connor, professor of Writing and Rhetoric at Syracuse University (retired) and mother of 911 victim Vanessa Lang Langer, who died in Tower 2 on 93rd floor will also be making presentations. Other speakers may be added to the program.
Barbara Honegger, former White House Policy Analyst and Special Assistant to the Assistant to President Ronald Reagan (1981 - 1983). (Charter Member of PL911Truth)
Question: ‘How do you propose to reopen the investigation?’
Chiesa: ‘The film is the primary instrument to get the debate going. It is a collection of discoveries, by many respected researches from around the globe (the film features, among others, Gore Vidal, Sibel Edmonds, Dario Fo, David Ray Griffin, Dr Steven Jones, Dr Kevin Ryan, Webster Tarpley, Barbara Honegger, FAA-controllers, USAF pilots, military commanders, physicists – ed. note). But they are still questions. The movie doesn’t provide the answers. It only lays bare the questions that remain, that were left unanswered by the official investigation and need to be answered by the US government.’
Yesterday, Sunday September 2nd, 2007, the disciplined effort of an LA Truther paid off in getting Webster Tarpley and Barbara Honegger an hour of air time on KTLK-AM1150, the local affiliate of Air America. Through engaging host Johnny Wendell in a serious 9-11 Truth dialogue over a course of many hours on the internet, she was able to get Wendell to invite Tarpley and Honegger, on very short notice, onto a show from 3-4pm he was guest-hosting for Joe McDonnell.
Note that there are no comments there decrying Honegger's appearance.
SATURDAY TALK BY BARBARA HONNEGER (See www.911truthla.net for details) Again, please note this reminder regarding Saturday's talk at the Unurban Cafe (details at www.911truthla.net). Barbara Honegger is a senior military affairs journalist, author of the historic Irangate expose' October Surprise, the first public resignation of conscience from the Reagan-Bush Administration, and author of the breakthrough 9/11 truth white paper "The Pentagon Attack Papers". Ms. Honegger is the 9/11 whistle blower who first connected the multiple military & intelligence war games and mass casualty exercises, which the Bush Administration was holding the morning of 9/11, to the scenario of planes crashing into buildings.
Victronix (aka Victoria Ashley, wife of Jim Hoffman) noted that there were problems with her:
Barrett and Honegger were there last year and the crowd didn't seem very large (I complained on blogger last year and no one knew who Honegger was, so couldn't understand anyone's issues with her), so the end result of mixing them with our best researchers is to provide false credibility for them on the internet, when the videos go up putting them altogether and the news stories come out with quotes, etc.
Prof NAFEEZ AHMED -Director, Institute for Policy Research & Development, London BARBARA HONEGGER - Senior Military Affairs Journalist, Naval Postgraduate School GHALI HASSAN - Iraqi writer, Political Analyst, Perth THIERRY MEYSSAN - Director, Voltaire Network, Paris RALPH SCHOENMAN - Radio Host, Taking Aim
Here's another one with Victronix (apparently the only "respectable" troofer) pointing out a problem with Honegger that I admit I had not heard before:
I could list them, starting with the hoax LA911truth Grand Jury that featured Honegger saying that the shoebomber is actually Osama (a presentation based on facial similarities) and anti-semite Christoper Bollyn claiming that a plane couldn't have hit the Pentagon.
Wow. Richard Reid is Osama? LOL!
At any rate, you would really have to search 9-11 Troof sites very hard to find any negative comments about her.
The Troofers have a new film coming out called Zero. I believe (but am not sure) that it has already been released in Italian (the original language of the filmmakers), but that the English version is not available yet. There is a video of the first fifteen minutes.
The filmmakers choose an especially grisly opening; the 911 phone call of a woman on the 83rd floor of one of the towers, who is obviously about to die. We've talked about 9-11 videos being porno for paranoids; this one starts out like a snuff film.
The first bit of "evidence" is that old favorite of Troofers, "Osama ain't wanted for 9-11." This is the Sacred List BS that we have talked about ad infinitum. Elements at the very top level of the US government were involved in 9-11, and yet they can't change the freaking Wanted Poster? What do they think is going on? Is there a rogue band of "Truthers" in the FBI who just happen to control what goes on the Wanted Posters, and they're sending this signal to their allies in the 9-11 Goofball community?
In fact, of course, the FBI's Most Wanted Posters list people and the crimes for which they have been indicted or convicted. The FBI already has plenty of indictments to arrest Osama, and thus there is no current need to indict or convict in absentia Osama bin Laden for his crimes on 9-11. In the unlikely event he is captured while living, there will be plenty of new charges added to his rap sheet.
And of course the Troofer idiots always miss that KSM and four other 9-11 plotters are in fact about to go on trial for their part in the crime. How come the FBI isn't raising a stink about that? The FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9-11, but they do have hard evidence on KSM, Bin-al-shibh and the others?
They present the story of two of the few men to make it down out of the South Tower above the impact zone; Stanley Prainmath and Brian Clark. As best I can figure, the reason for including this is so that they can mention the ominous fact that there was an announcement in the South Tower that there was no need to evacuate that building (after the first plane had hit but before the second).
Then we get Nobel Prize Winner Dario Fo explaining that the WTC was constructed to take the impact of a plane. And of course I'm thinking, wow, a Nobel Prize winner! But it turns out he's a playwright and his Nobel Prize was in Literature. He sounds PC to the max:
Following the performance of Dario Fo's anti-Iraq war play 'Peace Mom' featuring Frances de la Tour as mother Cindy Sheehan, United Kingdom theatre has seen a revival of political satire in the form of farce (particularly in the Edinburgh Festival). This farce generally aims to alert all social classes to political oppression and exploitation rather than specifically targeting the working classes.
So, okay, they got a lefty playwright to explain structural engineering to us. But he sure looks impressive standing in front of a couple of blueprints.
They show some quotes, like this one from Frank De Martini:
That's not even a quote mine; that's a quote creation, taken rather loosely from here:
So our first outright lie comes about 6:40 into the film. That's actually pretty good by Troofer standards, usually there's been several by that point.
Steven Jones compares the buildings to "a (sic) tree". He claims that the fibers in a tree can handle that motion. I'm thinking maybe we're about to get the Keebler Elves comparison, but no such luck. We get the collapse of the South Tower, then some more snuff bits of the jumpers. Then the North Tower collapses. But it's amateur hour. After correctly showing the initiation of the North Tower collapse, they cut to a street-level scene of the South Tower collapse.
See that big building at the left? It's the North Tower. DOH! At this point I'm thinking maybe I should hire myself out as a fact-checker for these crappy films.
Next we get a quote from Morgan "One-Planer" Reynolds. Heheh! I'm starting to enjoy this and according to a review posted earlier on 9-11 Blogger by Reprehensor, there's more entertainment to come, with Munchkin Barbara Honegger and the man who walks through walls (unsuccessfully), Maj. Gen. Albert Stubblebine.
Next we get the lefty playwright in front of the blueprints again. What, they couldn't afford Richard Gage? Then they show once again, the phony quote from De Martini.
Then Urantia and 9-11 Nut Les Jamieson gets his moment in the spotlight, to tell us never before... steel frame... yadda yadda. The lefty playwright talks about the Windsor Towers. As usual, they show the collapsed steel portion of the skyscraper and marvel that it did not collapse completely. He points out that it was still under construction (not noticing that means it had a much lighter load than an occupied building would have, with all the furniture, filing cabinets, computers, people, etc). He sure looks jovial while telling us this, with a big grin on his face.
Jones tells us that the fires in the WTC were oxygen-starved. I am so sick of that claim:
Does that fire look like it's having difficulty breathing to you? And at this point they zoom in on the lefty playwright and we can actually see those "blueprints" he's been standing in front of:
And it's somebody's crayon drawing of the Towers? Wow, it's easy to see where they spent the $1.5 million budget that is reported for this crockumentary! Throughout this part, Fo is smiling and jovial, like some old man telling a silly joke to his three-year-old grandson. Weird.
Then he claims there's some mystery about how anybody got down from the South Tower above the impact zone (Prainmath and Clark are two of the very few). Of course it is well known that one stairwell in the South Tower was clear because of the off-center hit by Flight 175. The purpose of that segment of the film seems to be so that Clark can mention that the fire wasn't very strong at the 78th floor (he helpfully suggests "oxygen-starved") and that the building was quite normal from the 74th floor down. All I can figure is they're trying to claim that because it was cool on the 74th floor, the fire could not have been very hot.
As further evidence they show poor Edna Cintron standing in the entrance hole of the North Tower, once again ignoring the fact that where she was standing was the spot farthest away from the fires. So far we've heard the voice of one doomed women, seen three jumpers and now doomed Edna. Beyond the errors and phony quotes, this is the most disturbing aspect of the film. I have a hunch we're going to see the body parts photos from the Pentagon before it's over. That's where the opening segment leaves off.
The film is already on some of the BitTorrent sites so I may watch the rest of it for Honegger and Stubblebine, easily two of the zaniest characters in Kookdom. It also features Gore Vidal, which means I can't resist posting Bill Buckley's smackdown of him at the 1968 DNC:
It's another craptacular production from the 9-11 Troof Movement, who've made more lousy movies than Uwe Boll. Negative One Stars.
We have discussed Barbara Honegger before, the woman with a masters degree in parapsychology who amazingly still works as a journalist for the Naval Postgraduate School. Now she is back on Kevin Barrett's show in a veritable festival of nuttiness (Kevin Ryan is the guest for the first hour).
Honegger's main assertion, which she repeats in-depth here, is that a bomb went off at the Pentagon at 9:30 (she cites April Gallop as a witness) and then a separate object (probably a cruise missile) hit it at 9:37. OK, well there are a few problems with this theory. She claims to have witnesses to the explosion (which she compares to William Rodriguez and his claims of explosions in the basement of the WTC), but for some reason she cannot come up with a single person who then claims to have seen something hit the Pentagon, 7 minutes afterwards. You would think a massive explosion blowing a hole in the wall of the Pentagon would draw some attention, and someone might notice a cruise missile flying into that hole (yes, that is what she speculates happened) seven minutes later. In fact Barrett, that great truthseeker he is, never even bothers to ask that question.
Incredible.
I was also amused by her claim of an anonymous (of course, aren't they always) whistleblower, supposedly someone on a Navy ship in Chesapeake Bay witnessed a cruise missile being fired "towards shore" on the morning of 9/11. Uhh, take a look at Chesapeake Bay, just about any direction you go is "towards shore".
