Sunday, August 13, 2006

WTC Damage Photo

Debunking911 has a nice little scoop here--the best photo yet of the damage to the south side of WTC 7.


At 13 August, 2006 13:48, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Wow, amazing photo. Grats to Debunking911 on the amazing find and thank you to Mr.Spak for his courage and foresight in documenting that days events.

At 13 August, 2006 16:16, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

parke, go read the NIST Interim report on WTC 7, and they will explain it to you...(1) not completely symmetrical. (2) large chunk taken out of the CENTER of the SOUTH side of building, resulted in Internal core damage, and subsequent falling in upon itself. Go read the report.

At 13 August, 2006 16:30, Blogger Unknown said...

This is a pretty good explanation

Conspiracy sites like to bring up the 'Symmetric Collapse' of building 7 and that the building should have fallen over to the south. They show grainy, dark photos of debris piles which were taken well after 9/11 and a debris pile with a grayish, smoky image of building 7 in the background. They deceptively show the north side which was relatively free of damage. As if the Tower should have reached over to the other side of the building and damaged that side to.

Here is what the debris pile looked like just after 9/11

Eerily, the north face is on the debris pile as if a shroud were laid gently over the dead building. It fell over after the majority of the building fell. This indicates the south side of the building fell before the north. It's almost as if the buildings last words were "[This] did it!..".

And now comes the most important and telling fact in this photo. Note the west side (Right side in this photo) of the north face is pointing toward the east side (Left side of this photo) where the penthouse was. What caused this? It would not be unreasonable to expect the building to fall toward the path of least resistance. The path of least resistance in this case would be the hole in the back of the building and the hole left by the penthouse. Since the penthouse was on the east and the 20 story hole in the middle, that would make the east and middle the path of least resistance. The conspiracy sites agree with this theory but say it never happened. They say the fact that it didn't happen helps prove controlled demolition. But you see it happen here... What will they say now?

"But the building doesn't look like it fell over, it fell "In it's own foot print" you might ask. That's because it is impossible for a 47 story steel building to fall over like that. It's not a small steel reinforced concrete building like the ones shown as *Examples* of buildings which fell over. Building 7 is more like the towers, made up of many pieces put together. It's not so much as a solid block as those steel reinforced concrete buildings.

At 13 August, 2006 17:51, Blogger Unknown said...

Well said but I doubt it will do any good :(

At 13 August, 2006 18:07, Blogger shawn said...

asmmetrical damage, symmetrical fall... please explain.

Doesn't exactly look symmetrical to me.

At 13 August, 2006 19:28, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Who is Tempestuous?

At 13 August, 2006 19:38, Blogger shawn said...

I am Batman.

At 13 August, 2006 19:38, Blogger shawn said...

No, I am Spartacus.

At 13 August, 2006 20:50, Blogger shawn said...

Did the 9/11 commission give a definitive reason for wtc7 collapse?

Should they have? It wasn't attacked.

At 13 August, 2006 21:57, Blogger shawn said...

Are any debunking films getting the views that Loose Change is?

I'm sure you've never heard of argumentum ad populum before.

and they clearly show a steady movement towards a cultural debunking of the official 911 meme.

There no such thing as a "cultural debunking". The only 9/11 "meme" is the inside job nonsense. Memes aren't what actually happened, idiot.

At 13 August, 2006 21:58, Blogger shawn said...

Methinks someone is a moron and wouldn't know logic if it bit him on the ass.

At 13 August, 2006 22:23, Blogger Unknown said...

Dude, Tempestuous where are you coming from? I can't figure out what the hell your talking about. And what's with the nonsence about athiesm. What the hell does that have to do with this? You seem to be a very very sad and angry person. Seriously calm down so we can actually talk.

At 13 August, 2006 22:51, Blogger shawn said...

September 11, 2001, 100% of the American populace believed the offical story. What is it today? What is the trend?

It wasn't 100 percent.

Because a growing percentage of the populace thinks the general premise of Loose Change is correct.

Why is that?

A major protion of the American population believes creationism. Why is that?

Look up argumentum ad populum. EVERYONE can believe in something, it doesn't make it right.

Left unanswered... the 20 word meme pro official 911 story that will put this debate to rest.

How does this put the debate to rest? Is this how everyone wins debates? They shrink their argument to a ridiculously small size and then "win"?

19 men, members of al-Qaeda, hijacked four planes on a mission to crash them into American landmarks.

18 words. Although you already knew the "meme" of the "official" story, you just have to be cute.

At 13 August, 2006 22:52, Blogger shawn said...

Namecalling never forwards an astute argument.

I'll ad hominem all you want, you morons ignore evidence and basic reasoning. As has been said in other threads on this blog, it gets very frustrating talking to walls.

At 14 August, 2006 08:15, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

next time bring some evidence before you crash the house that Pat and James built.

At 14 August, 2006 11:44, Blogger Manny said...

Everyone who hears these words of mine, and doesn't do them will be like a foolish man, who built his house on the sand. 27 The rain came down, the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat on that house; and it fell--and great was its fall."

Nah, you just gotta drive the pilings a little deeper, is all. Then you can put it on the market for 62 large.

At 14 August, 2006 12:55, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Yes, and if I posted the 10 commandments, how many would most americans, or humans for that matter, have broken in their lifetime.

Here saith the lord...

At 14 August, 2006 13:56, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...


When I first entered this realm, even though I was a believer in the official story, I wanted to create a blog that presented both sides of the story.

then I did a google search on 9/11 and I found about 100 CT sites for every 1 debunk site. From that point on, I viewed evidence from both sides, but published/promoted evidence for the "debunk" side, because I knew there were more than enough of the other side to do the job. If the idea is for people to ask questions, and read all things on this argument, than I feel that the same people should have easy access, and equal access to both sides. Now I am doing things to even those odds...and the "Truthers" hate it...

At 14 August, 2006 16:59, Blogger Unknown said...

As I have found, most of the CT'rs have little or no mechanical knowledge and sway to what suits their perticular agenda. When I saw it happen live I was stunned, when the reports first came out I read everyone I could get my hands on and nothing seemed odd so I accepted it because it made sense to me. Just a little backgoround, I have been doing E/M design for 43 years. Skyscrapers have always been a love of mine from the time the towers were first built and I have closly followed the construction of every one that followed. I have over 200 3D models of building concepts and 100 houses I have designed in Solidworks, they are concepts but much research was done to make sure my concepts could be done. Just a small part of my background, the whaks never give any qualifications what so ever.

When I first heard of the Hunt for the Boeing I thought it was a joke so I went to every whak site I could find to see what they had to say. Most was just a lot of technobabble and BS. Every thing could be easily dismissed and most of the people were not qualified to even comment, sorta like the socalled scholars for truth. Just by comparing the people who did the reports on both sides it was clear the CT people were nothing but hot air who love to ask questions they know can't be answered.

There are no benchmarks for these crashes, nor has there ever been a building built like the towers. No body knows everything that went on during the crashes so the whaks can come up with any crazy theory that suits their agenda. When you compare the reports from all the qualified people to the fraud reports from the whaks, there is no comparison, the whaks can't even keep their stories straight.

The latest report on the CD of the towers was stellar, another expert that has been doing CD for 20 years put every whak CD theory to rest. The vid that Mike did of FL77 and the Pent were amazing and 100% acurate just to name a couple, so far I have yet to have a CT'er challenge either, they will just go back to asking the same dumb questions that have no real bearing on anything.

These conspiracy theorists have taken fact out of context and turned it to fiction, they have carefully selected random clippings which were the extreme end of the spectrum not the mean average of the time, meaning it is a very skewed view of what we saw and heard during our present period

Sorry for the rant but these unqualified CT whaks are really chapping my ass.

At 14 August, 2006 19:52, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

np, they tend to chap the "collective" Debunking community ass.


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