Saturday, September 02, 2006

The Company You Keep

Korey Rowe and Jason Bermas filled in recent for John Stadtmiller on the Republic Broadcasting Network. The interview itself was pretty boring, mostly Dumb and Dumber bragging about how awesome their movie is. Dylan Avery did call in at the end, apparently driving from the airport, just returning from his trip to Washington D.C. where he made the shocking discovery that there was a jetliner at the Pentagon. Wow, 5 years of investigating and they only now discover a fact that was established the first day. Of course now they have to come up with a wild and complicated explanation for how that plane didn't actually hit the Pentagon, and instead it was an A-3 Skywarrior/cruise missile/Javelin anti-tank missile/flying magic school bus.

They get off a couple of sarcastic remarks against Debunking 9/11 and Screw Loose Change (although it is not apparent whether they are talking about the blog or the movie), but the thing that really set me off, was yet another tie in to the Neo-Nazi American Free Press. They run a one minute ad for the AFP at the 32 minute mark, with the following ironic wording:


There is one, and only one, national populist news weekly, staffed by an unsurpassed team of veteran investigative news journalists who have dared to rip the veil of deception from the coverup news stories controlled by the big money monopolies. American Free Press. AFP's no-holds-barred journalists fearlessly seek the truth, no matter how controversial the issue. AFP publishes exciting indepth uncensored news information good patriotic Americans need to know to combat the coming police state being clamped on our republic. The American Free Press is your voice. Subscribe today and catch up on the real news! Mention RBN when you call and receive a one year subscription plus a copy of Michael Collins Piper's latest best-seller "The High Priests of War" all that for just $49. Call AFP toll free. 1-888-699- XXXX or visit americanfreepress.net.

They run the same ad during Jim Fetzer's weekly radio show "Non-Random Thoughts". So basically not only do key members of the 9/11 denial movement uncritically cite Neo-Nazi newspapers, but they benefit from their financial support of their radio shows to spread their propaganda.

And it is not like it requires in-depth investigative reporting to find out about these radical ties, all one needs to do is go to their website, like the ad asks you to. Here, for example is a a flier for the "AFP-TBR 2006 Free Speech Conference". TBR refers to "The Barnes Review". Hmm, where have we heard of them before?











They list the speakers for their conference, in the spirit of "in-depth investigative reporting", let's take a look and see who some of them are:















I have talked about what a fraud De Grand Pre is before. He even made the recent Popular Mechanics book, where they point out what a faker he is. He claims to be intimate friends with figures such as General Hugh Shelton, who when contacted by the magazine, never heard of him





















Who is "Historian Juergan Graf"? Well, here is a character reference for him.

My good friend, the scholar Juergen Graff, is in exile because he faces a two year prison sentence in Switzerland for his intellectual research and writing that historically challenges some areas of the Holocaust story.
The good friend that speaks of him, is none other than David Duke. I don't wish to link to him, so if you want to look it up, do a web search.

Udo Walendy is another prominent Holocaust denier, who has even served jail time in Germany as a result.

Willis Carto, the founder of the AFP we have already covered several times.

John Stadtmiller is the RBN radio host for whom Bermas and Rowe were filling in. This raises an interesting question, what is the connection between AFP and RBN?

Chrisopher Bollyn is of course the reporter for the AFP (do they have any others?) on whom Dylan Avery and Jim Fetzer base so many of their claims. He is most known recently, for being arrested, which he blamed on (who else?) the Jews.

Sorry if I am getting a bit repetitive on this subject, but these guys just disgust me.

40 Comments:

At 02 September, 2006 10:07, Blogger shawn said...

Udo Walendy is worse than nesnyc.

omg they're drawings! Not pictures!

What a joke.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:12, Blogger nes718 said...

The company YOU keep!

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:15, Blogger nes718 said...

"Neo-Nazi" = SLC smear phrase

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:18, Blogger nes718 said...

Udo Walendy is another prominent Holocaust denier, who has even served jail time in Germany as a result.

Ha ha! This is what is done in China by their totalitarian government when the truth eventually leaks out. The resulting purge is swift and severe. The TRUTH needs no laws to protect it. Only rulers of the status quo fear the truth coming out.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:20, Blogger James B. said...

How could it be a "smear"? They write articles saying that Hitler should have won a Nobel prize. To them it should be a compliment.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:22, Blogger shawn said...

"Neo-Nazi" = SLC smear phrase

Uhh if it's true it's not a smear, moron.

The video you linked was actually well-made, though obvious by some idiot (omg London was an inside job) who loves hyperbole.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:22, Blogger shawn said...

Only rulers of the status quo fear the truth coming out.

Then why do you fear it so?

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:24, Blogger nes718 said...

omg London was an inside job

LOL! I bet you haven't seen THIS yet.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:25, Blogger nes718 said...

Then why do you fear it so?

Ah, your "truth" is already heavily promoted by the mainstream propaganda apparatus. My truth is the one you and yours fear.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:28, Blogger shawn said...

Ah, your "truth" is already heavily promoted by the mainstream propaganda apparatus.

IT doesn't matter who promotes it, it matters if the facts are behind it. EVERYTHING you believe has no basis in reality. Whether it be your take on geopolitics, the Holocaust, Israel, terror attacks, and 9/11 specifically.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:28, Blogger nes718 said...

They write articles saying that Hitler should have won a Nobel prize.

Didn't Bush say Sharon was a "Man of Peace." What's the difference?

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:29, Blogger nes718 said...

EVERYTHING you believe has no basis in reality.

Your "reality" is simply propaganda.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:29, Blogger shawn said...

Oh no! They practiced how to react to a situation! I'm sure if it was an inside job they'd practice a reaction to the situation just to give themselves away.

Hmm weird since Britain had been the victim of a prolonged terror campaign by the IRA.

You don't like logic much, do you?

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:30, Blogger shawn said...

Your "reality" is simply propaganda.

No, you see, that's the problem. That's your only response. Everything you've said to support your points is either illogical or wrong (also propaganda, but I don't fall back on that like your dumb ass does).

As I said, your beliefs on pretty much everything are based on faith. That's fine, as religions are based on faith, but don't pretend you're living in reality.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:35, Blogger nes718 said...

Everything you've said to support your points is either illogical or wrong

I give you evidence bombs went off at the base of the towers softening them up for the eventual controlled demo and yet you still want to believe the propaganda regurgitated by the NYT witch has no basis in fact. I think you’re wrong here buddy.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:38, Blogger shawn said...

I give you evidence bombs went off at the base of the towers softening them up for the eventual controlled demo

No you didn't.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:39, Blogger nes718 said...

They practiced how to react to a situation! I'm sure if it was an inside job they'd practice a reaction to the situation just to give themselves away.

Nope. Same day, same train stations and same method of attack for this "drill" as what unfolded. Again, you have to be pretty delusional to think this is all a "coincidence" and SURPRISE, the "ringleader" is a known MI5 asset just like your favorite boogeyman Mr. Bin Laden was to the CIA.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:42, Blogger nes718 said...

No you didn't.

Denier.

 
At 02 September, 2006 10:48, Blogger nes718 said...

Here's how the London attacks went off:

1. The drills were cover for the whole operation
2. The company conducting it admitted nearly 1,000 people involved in the operational aspects of it
3. The "bombers" were taking part in this drill and were carrying the bags unknowingly containing the live bombs.
4. The bombs were set off via cellphones or remote radio control simultaneously. This "job" was a typical MI5/6 hit.

What was the purpose of the London bombings? The Brits were getting ready to pull their troops from Iraq at the time but luckily for the banksters that bankroll the whole operation the bombing occurred and now the British could remain in the "war."

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:00, Blogger shawn said...

Nope. Same day, same train stations and same method of attack for this "drill" as what unfolded.

And you don't see how it's illogical to practice for a mock attack and then commit the false-flag the same day?

The Brits were getting ready to pull their troops from Iraq

Weird, after Spain got attacked they withdrew their troops.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:09, Blogger nes718 said...

And you don't see how it's illogical to practice for a mock attack and then commit the false-flag the same day?

Most people wouldn't even put two and two together. The reason why they had to go public with this admission was because of the sheer number of people involved in this drill. But the admission was right there on TV and later on BBC radio. The rep, Masters I believe his name was, stated the drills nearly exactly paralleled the real attack down to the station. You can keep denying this wasn't part of the actual attack but the chances this was yet again another coincidence like the drills on 9/11 is non-existent.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:11, Blogger nes718 said...

Weird, after Spain got attacked they withdrew their troops.

That was staged too but in this instance, the attack actually backfired and was later found out to be an inside job and not "Al Qaeda."

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:16, Blogger nes718 said...

The Madrid train bombing is another example. The bombers were found to be police informants with close links to the Spanish security services. They had access to the most secure areas of the Madrid train system. The Spanish government initially tried to blaim the Basque group ETA for the blast in the hope that the people would rally behind the government and get them re-elected. After ETA denied involvement and the people started saying the government was involved, the Spanish government had to blame Al-Qaeda and kill some patsies by claiming they blew themselves up during a raid.

The London Underground exercises were used as the fallback cover to carry out the attack. This is the biggest smoking gun yet pointing directly to the most secretive levels of the British establishment itself being behind the attack.

More on this story as and when it develops.


911 Drills

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:31, Blogger shawn said...

That was staged too but in this instance, the attack actually backfired and was later found out to be an inside job and not "Al Qaeda."


It is hilarious how retarded you are.

They withdrew because they saw their involvement in Iraq as causing the attack from al-Qaeda. Of course, since you're ignorant of all things geopolitical, you wouldn't know that.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:42, Blogger Alex said...

The video you linked was actually well-made, though obvious by some idiot (omg London was an inside job) who loves hyperbole.

Yeah I rather enjoyed that video too. The guy might be an idiot but he's deffinitely got a lot of creative talent.

I give you evidence bombs went off at the base of the towers softening them up for the eventual controlled demo and yet you still want to believe the propaganda regurgitated by the NYT witch has no basis in fact.

Yes, let's remember for a second how that conversation went shall we?

You: People heard explosions!!!!
Us: So? Explosions don't neccesarily mean explosives.
You: Well it makes sense because it softened up the base of the towers!!!!
Us: The towers fell from the top. The bottom actually remained standing for at least another 20 seconds after the collapse, and some of the pillars could be seen standing days after the collapse.
You: JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:43, Blogger nes718 said...

That's what I said. The plan backfired and the attackers were later found out NOT to be Al Qaeda.

I know my geopolitics unlike you.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:44, Blogger nes718 said...

Us: So? Explosions don't neccesarily mean explosives.

So are you saying it 100% could not have been explosion from explosives?

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:48, Blogger Alex said...

So are you saying it 100% could not have been explosion from explosives?

No, I'm saying it's not PROOF of explosives. It's proof of explosions. Those are two completely different things. My airbag going off sounds like an explosion, but I'm pretty sure chrysler didn't put any C4 or thermate in it.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:48, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

NESNYC:

I have never seen you so "busy" in terms of posting. Did someone hit a nerve with you or something...jeesh go and make a connection to Holocaust Deniers, and NESSIE gets all in a huff...I though you were a self-confessed denier anyway.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:49, Blogger shawn said...

later found out NOT to be Al Qaeda.


ETA were the primary suspects. Al-Qaeda came later.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:51, Blogger nes718 said...

No, I'm saying it's not PROOF of explosives.

A simple yes or no would suffice.

 
At 02 September, 2006 11:57, Blogger Alex said...

A simple yes or no would suffice.

No, it wouldn't because that's exactly what you idiots do 99% of the time in order to "prove" your claims - you simply take the statements of others out of context. If I had said "no", you would have spun it around and then claimed that I said there really WERE explosives in the towers.

 
At 02 September, 2006 15:01, Blogger What Would Grape Ape Do? said...

Why is it that people who describe themselves as patriots usually do so to divert from their whirlybird hypotheses?

 
At 02 September, 2006 21:27, Blogger shawn said...

Speigel

Although I thank Der Spiegel for debunking the live hijackers nonsense, they also publish issues with Gandhi and Che on the cover for a story on nonviolent protest (I guess executing and torturing people is considered nonviolent nowadays).

 
At 02 September, 2006 21:30, Blogger Alex said...

Not their fault, Che today stands for the exact opposite of what he was in life, thanks mostly to the fact that nobody ever bothers to find out who he really was.

 
At 02 September, 2006 21:55, Blogger shawn said...

Willful ignorance by the Left. They ignore totalitarianism when it's in their icons and see it where it's not in the people they don't agree with.

 
At 03 September, 2006 06:57, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

lying_Dylan:

Nice rant. I like to have one of those about every week...honestly..it can be...liberating.

They are asshats...assf&*ks...dipsh%ts...turds...and many more things.

They are a combination of young, arrogant, and stupid, which is the ink for their "asshat" tattoo.

I am pretty sure they will be kept in line on 9/11. I think the crowd they anticipate is much larger than the one that will actually show.

The police and NYFD will be there by the hundreds, and I am sure they will take no shit from these loons.

As for there comments, I rarely even pay them heed anymore, as they rarely make sense, and merely speaks to their lack of credibility. They took on this project, originally as a fictional work, now as a work of quasi-fiction, and have realized they are in too deep to get out...

 
At 03 September, 2006 16:38, Blogger AbrashTX said...

Bollyn's account of his arrest is quite, um, lurid. I loved how he described the local cops as "ADL-trained."

Cops struggle with man

What's really telling is that the main page of the AFP website doesn't have many clues that scream "neo Nazi", but Bollyn's story on RBN just screams it. I was really happy that I got a screen shot of the claim that "Israelis" (code for the Joooooz) were warned not to show up for work at the WTC on 9-11. Cuz those Joooz have a secret code, ya know. It's called Hebrew.

 
At 03 September, 2006 16:39, Blogger AbrashTX said...

Should have been more clear, the link in my previous comment was to the Chicago Tribune, which reported that Bollyn threatened the cops physically when they dropped by his house to explain that there was an unmarked police car in the neighborhood.

 
At 04 September, 2006 04:07, Blogger Pepik said...

"1. The drills were cover for the whole operation"

The drills took place in a conference room. Some cover. And even if they had taken place in the stations, how does that provide "cover"? Sounds like something Alex Jones would say and you would repeat robotically and later it requires a debunker to point out that it makes no sense.

"2. The company conducting it admitted nearly 1,000 people involved in the operational aspects of it"

Nice use of "admitted" instead of "said". Also, you are probably referring to size of the company they were advising, not the size of the drill.

"3. The "bombers" were taking part in this drill and were carrying the bags unknowingly containing the live bombs."

Total lie.

"4. The bombs were set off via cellphones or remote radio control simultaneously. This "job" was a typical MI5/6 hit."

Totally imaginary.

 

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