Tuesday, June 13, 2006

An Example of the Reverse-Engineered Theory

As I've commented several times in the past, the conspiracy theories on 9-11 all share one basic similarity; the conclusion is arrived at and then facts and eyewitness accounts and video are assembled to fit the conclusion.

For example, consider the "no planes" theory. At first blush, this seems like lunacy--it might aptly be described as the "no brains" theory--but it actually makes some "sense" if you start from the conclusion that 9-11 was an inside job. If 9-11 was perpetrated by the neocons, then the hijacked airliners become something of an obstacle, as this guy points out:

Now lets look at the other choice - using real jets.

This immediately splits into two sub-choices 1) Pilot them with suicide pilots 2) Remote control them.

The problem with the first choice is obvious and I think most people on this list have already accepted the absurdity and the monstrous difficulties of such a scenario, so I won't go into them here.


You see? Starting with the conclusion that the neocons staged 9-11, it becomes illogical for them to have used real planes, since there is a distinct shortage of suicide pilots available who are not Islamofascists. Ergo no hijackers, and no hijacked planes.

13 Comments:

At 13 June, 2006 17:40, Blogger shawn said...

The problem with the first choice is obvious and I think most people on this list have already accepted the absurdity and the monstrous difficulties of such a scenario, so I won't go into them here.

...except it's far easier than the second choice.

It scares me that there are humans this thick.

 
At 13 June, 2006 18:39, Blogger Chad said...

http://tinyurl.com/zpuz6

That link to a thread over at the LC forum will blow. your. MIND.

The whole "I don't know what hit the towers, but I know it wasn't a 767" schtick is priceless.

We're talkin' Mastercard Priceless.

Blobs, missiles, bunker busters... you name it. I tried my best to inject some sanity into the debate (I'm LooneyBin), but quickly got tired of plowing my head into a concrete wall....

 
At 13 June, 2006 18:39, Blogger Chad said...

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At 13 June, 2006 20:19, Blogger shawn said...

Actually, thats the way the 9/11 commission operated, begin with the conclusion and don't let anything get in the way.

Don't let anything get in the way? Hardly.

Hun, I know it's tough coming to the realization that the facts line up with the 'official' story, but you gotta let it go.

 
At 13 June, 2006 20:24, Blogger Chad said...

Actually, thats the way the 9/11 commission operated, begin with the conclusion and don't let anything get in the way.

And thus begins the "I know you are but what am I?" line of argument from the CT crowd.

C'mon Joan.... At least borrow a link to a homemade movie off of Google Video from Nessie or something....

I no longer expect you to put any thought into your comments here. But at least try to put forth some effort, 'kay?

 
At 13 June, 2006 20:52, Blogger shawn said...

I've always believed that CTs work the other way around: by first reaching the conclusion and then working their way backwards, gathering up anything that they think "proves" their conclusion.

That's exactly what they do, it's easy to go from the end of an event and backtrack and match it to any story.

 
At 13 June, 2006 21:53, Blogger Alex said...

That site is really.....I dunno. Makes me lose faith in the human race. That some of us can be THAT blind and biased is just...unbeleivable.

 
At 13 June, 2006 21:57, Blogger Pat said...

Yeah, Chad, that's the same guy; in fact that thread was how I came across the website (it was in his third post or so on that thread).

 
At 14 June, 2006 05:25, Blogger Chad said...

One of the things that kills me is that one CTer (KillTown) attempts to back up his claims by linking to his own website.

As if to say: "Of course a blob hit the north tower. I posted about it on my site!"

You can't argue with a mentality like that....

 
At 14 June, 2006 08:23, Blogger shawn said...

Rather, I simply point out that the often made claim of “thousands of witnesses” is utterly without foundation.

Oh it's without foundation...because there were MILLIONS.

It's true that witness testimony isn't always reliable; when it's two or three witnesses. When millions of witnesses (not to mention countless videos of the event) see the exact same thing, that's what happened.

 
At 14 June, 2006 09:31, Blogger James B. said...

Hmm, so just because millions of people watched the Steelers win the Super Bowl doesn't mean my Seahawks didn't win. I can still hold out hope!

 
At 15 June, 2006 13:12, Blogger shawn said...

Are you sure he is not talking about the Pentagon Attack?

Alright, so now he has a hundred or so witnesses instead of millions. Those are still good odds they saw a plane.

Remote pilot of planes is easier then you think.

It's still FAR EASIER to just have someone pilot the plane into a building themselves. Occam's Razor, buddy, Occam's Razor.

 
At 15 June, 2006 13:13, Blogger shawn said...

And by "good odds" I mean "there was a plane".

 

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