Monday, June 26, 2006

Where's the Leak?

I was reading about the recent NY/LA Times stories on the monitoring of suspect international banking transactions, and it got me wondering. It appears the CIA can't order out for pizza without it leaking to the Washington Post first, where are all the leaks regarding 9/11? Just look at all the leaks that have happened, the CIA rendition program, NSA tapping of calls to foreign phones, the NSA data mining, the Valerie Plame Kerfuffle, which incredibly involved not just leaks, but leaks about leaks. Despite all this though, not a single word on the 9/11 conspiracy, despite the fact that hundreds, if not thousands of people from multiple organizations must have been involved in the murder of thousands of their fellow citizens. Yet not a peep, not even some chemist from the CIA e-mailing Steven Jones his favorite thermite recipe. Makes you wonder...

28 Comments:

At 26 June, 2006 21:05, Blogger Chad said...

Well obviously the Joos aren't paying the NYT, WaPo, and LATimes enough to keep quiet.

I suspect that $30 quintillion worth of diamond studded gold nuggets laced with sapphires in the shape of a naked Kelly LeBrock (circa Weird Science, of course) that was hidden in the basement of WTC1 was divvied up between half of the CIA.

The other half were probably just shot.

Don't quote me on that though.... It's just what my "innate" senses* tell me.

* It's like a Spidey Sense, only not as cool and infinitely less accurate.

 
At 26 June, 2006 21:08, Blogger apathoid said...

Despite all this though, not a single word on the 9/11 conspiracy, despite the fact that hundreds, if not thousands of people from multiple organizations must have been involved in the murder of thousands of their fellow citizens.

Definately the most convincing piece of evidence for the "Official Version".
That and the lack of a single structural engineer who has raised a red flag regarding the collapses.
(Not even one - are you kidding me CTs?!?!)

The only possible answer for this is, you guessed it - the government is using mind control techniques on all those structural engineers, all of those potential 9/11 whistleblowers and all of us "sheep"

 
At 26 June, 2006 21:25, Blogger shawn said...

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At 26 June, 2006 21:26, Blogger shawn said...

"ALLIED FORCES TO INVADE NORMANDY BEACH, FAKE ARMY PLANTED AT PAS DE CALAIS" - New York Times headline June 1944

9:25 PM

 
At 26 June, 2006 21:33, Blogger Chad said...

Although that wouldn't suprise me Shawn, I'm not entirely sure that headline ever existed (or that the Grey Lady spilled the beans about Overlord).

 
At 26 June, 2006 21:48, Blogger shawn said...

I was just making a joke about how they've released information of a very important nature (as in, not telling the terrorists our methods for stopping them) in this most recent story.

 
At 26 June, 2006 21:53, Blogger James B. said...

There actually is a true story about how they thought that Operation Overlord was given out in a crossword puzzle

And now you know, the rest of the story.

 
At 26 June, 2006 22:07, Blogger shawn said...

Oh man, it must be a conspiracy.

 
At 26 June, 2006 22:09, Blogger BG said...

James,

Your discussion of this topic needs to be much more nuanced and in-depth.

For example, there was a huge amount of intentional "leaking" to Judy Miller pre-Iraq War.

I don't claim to have the inside facts about what leaks have been fakes, or misinfo, or genuine whistle-blowers. Going back to Watergate, for what it's worth, the whole idea of how "deep throat" and others (Pentagon Papers) "leaked" still remains not as clean has it has been portrayed.

The ownership of the MSM media is more concentrated than it has ever been in modern times in the US. I realise that there may be various explanations, include the profit motive, that might explain what gets published.

Although I'm not 100% sure that the Bush Administration didn't leak the bank account stuff on purpose, I found the explanation by the NY Times' Bill Keller about why he went ahead lame in more ways than I want to take the time to explain.

The days we are living in right now are very odd by any standard. Regardless of how hawkist one may be, or how much one believes in Core Republic values, these times are nerve-racking and divisive. I realise that unless Bush and Cheney are planning to step down, it's their job, (and the jobs of the support structure within the Fed. Govt.) to try to make the best of the mess that we are in. With elections coming up, I don't underestimate the dirty tricks that strategist for the Dems or the Repubs may be undertaking.

 
At 26 June, 2006 22:19, Blogger James B. said...

Your discussion of this topic needs to be much more nuanced and in-depth.


Unfortunately we aren't going to get that from your comments...

 
At 26 June, 2006 22:22, Blogger default.xbe said...

this seems to followed the reverse engineered theory pattern

9/11 is a massive conspiracy with no information leaks whatsoever, so previous leaks must have been faked

 
At 26 June, 2006 23:03, Blogger Pat said...

BG, you really need to help us out with another guest post here.

 
At 27 June, 2006 05:14, Blogger nesNYC said...

What about THIS leak? How come this story got buried by AIPAC and ADL? When something wants to stay out of site, it does. If we see any CIA "leaks" there is usually a purpose for it.

In this particular case, the "leak" took precedence over due process and that is the true intention of this "leak." Creators of this policy are now off the hook because the paper is taking the heat. Think about it!

 
At 27 June, 2006 08:36, Blogger shawn said...

It's the Jews!

 
At 27 June, 2006 09:03, Blogger JoanBasil said...

Salon has an article on 9/11 "deniers" and there is a reader comment thats right on the mark:

"Why is it hard to believe that a secret can be kept?
Where is the incentive to come out if you were involveed in a government conspiracy to pull off 9-11? The fame?"

-- MIchael Buchanan

 
At 27 June, 2006 09:40, Blogger apathoid said...

joanbasil said:
Why is it hard to believe that a secret can be kept?

Where is the incentive to come out if you were involveed in a government conspiracy to pull off 9-11? The fame?"

The fame?!?!
You are saying that the thousands of people who are in on this are guiltless, soulless, and pure evil.
C'mon Joan. People who demolish buildings for a living are professionals and are normal people. People who would've fitted remote control take-over systems on the planes are normal, family driven people(whose job it is to make absolute sure that the aircraft is safe for everyone who ever flies on it).

You cant just explain away that fact that there are no whistelblowers by saying "those involved having nothing to gain by coming forward"
Thats a very bad rationale. They are people, they have a soul and a conscience.

 
At 27 June, 2006 12:53, Blogger nesNYC said...

It's the Jews!

Oh yeah! Over 80 Israelis caught directly connect with the events of 9/11 yet that's the dirty little secret that has a hard time getting aired! Leak my ass.

 
At 27 June, 2006 12:54, Blogger nesNYC said...

typo: connected not connect

 
At 27 June, 2006 13:54, Blogger Alex said...

Where is the incentive to come out if you were involveed in a government conspiracy to pull off 9-11? The fame?

My guess would be it's the same incentive(s) that gets people to come out with info about all sorts of secret projects. What, you're telling me that someone involved with monitoring bank accounts is going to have more incentive to come forward than someone who, inadvertantly or otherwise, helped murder 3,000 Americans?

Over 80 Israelis caught directly connect with the events of 9/11 yet that's the dirty little secret that has a hard time getting aired! Leak my ass.

If your ass leaks, that's your problem, and I don't want to know about it.

Your "joooooz did it" theory doesn't get any airtime for the same reason that all the other 9/11 CT's don't: 'cos they're friggin nuts!

 
At 27 June, 2006 14:21, Blogger JoanBasil said...

It took Deep Throat 30+ years to come forward and he didn't murder anyone.

 
At 27 June, 2006 15:08, Blogger Alex said...

WTF?

You've got a strange definition of "come forward".

Deep throat "came forward" 30 years ago. He only revealed his true identity recently. Big difference. Coming forward in this context means releasing information about an event. Whether the source reveals his/her true identity or not is something completely different. Nobody aleging to be connected to the 9/11 conspiracy has come forward either anonymously or otherwise.

 
At 27 June, 2006 15:27, Blogger JoanBasil said...

alex,
You'd be OK with Dylan Avery including a transcript from an anonymous informant who said he was in the room when Cheney made the decision that the WTC towers had to be taken down, not just hit with airplanes? (that would be like Deep Throat at the time, but until he put his name on it, there was still plenty of speculation that Deep Throat wasn't a real person or that he was a composite.)

 
At 27 June, 2006 15:59, Blogger default.xbe said...

if avery were the only one reporting it i wouldnt trust it, he has shown himself to be far from a credible source IMO

if the washing post published it however, thats a different story

 
At 27 June, 2006 16:06, Blogger James B. said...

Oh God, now they are comparing Dylan Avery with Woodward and Bernstein!

I can't take it anymore...

 
At 27 June, 2006 16:18, Blogger default.xbe said...

woodward and bernstein are jooooooos!!!

 
At 27 June, 2006 16:56, Blogger shawn said...

"Why is it hard to believe that a secret can be kept?
Where is the incentive to come out if you were involveed in a government conspiracy to pull off 9-11? The fame?"


You ever heard that rules are made to be broken?

Secrets are made to be leaked. It's VERY rare that a secret is kept (Operation Overlord being one of those exceptions).

And it tends to be the bigger the secret, the harder it is to keep. For one, my dad would have to be on it. I'm sure he didn't come from the projects to become a government official just to help cover an attack by the government.

 
At 27 June, 2006 19:59, Blogger UsingtheMedia said...

The lack of leaks is also part of the conspiracy. In fact, it PROVES there was a conspiracy.

Don't you know anything?

 
At 27 June, 2006 23:01, Blogger The Cranky Insomniac said...

Shawn, I had to laugh when I read your mock Allied invasion headline. I wrote this the other day.

Then again, I'm a Joo....

 

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