Friday, August 25, 2006

Another Theory Demolished

One of the things that 9-11 Deniers like to claim is that very few of those killed in the Pentagon crash were actually military or other employees of the Defense Department. I suppose the idea is that this makes it more likely that the military could have been involved.

However, a quick check of this CNN tribute website should dispell the myth. As you can see, of the thirty people listed (alphabetically) on the first page, one worked for Verizon, one worked for Booz Allen, and one person's employer was not given. The rest, 90%, worked for the Army, the Navy, the Defense Department or the Defense Intelligence Agency.

22 Comments:

At 26 August, 2006 06:50, Blogger nesNYC said...

Democracy NOW! OWNED!!

 
At 26 August, 2006 07:27, Blogger debunking911 said...

So much for the "NO Plane" theory...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDdjLQkUV8

 
At 26 August, 2006 07:44, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Nessie:

I just read that link...I hardly think that pathetic rehash of shaite qualifies as "owning" Democracy Now.

 
At 26 August, 2006 08:23, Blogger shawn said...

Ok so now I've agreed with Noam Chomsky and Democracy Now?

The end is nigh.

 
At 26 August, 2006 08:27, Blogger shawn said...

Are you aware that one of the most astute researchers of British and American covert operations writing today

Followed by a guy who thinks al-Qaeda is an invented entity.

Obviously not an astute researcher,

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:33, Blogger Ronin said...

How many were there who died that were in the building i thought that section was under construction or something.Or was that just the talk of how they just recently reinforced that side alone to withstand a plane impact?Funny that they were so smart as to get past all of our defenses and totaly pwn us but hit the side that doesnt house the big names like the vice president.Which i might figure would be a target.I guess there brilliant idiots?

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:43, Blogger shawn said...

Funny that they were so smart as to get past all of our defenses and totaly pwn us but hit the side that doesnt house the big names like the vice president.

Uh the vice president isn't at the Pentagon (I think you mean Rummy). They didn't have to get by any defenses, either. That's an idiotic statement.

Which i might figure would be a target.

Uh they weren't aiming for government officials. The attacks were symbolic, psychological, and aimed at killing a lot of people.

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:48, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

I am sure one of the tin foil hatters will be along at any moment to say that Mike J Wilson is a government operative and that video was created SOLEY to throw off that blood hound of a detective Dylan Avery!!!

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:58, Blogger apathoid said...

How many were there who died that were in the building i thought that section was under construction or something.Or was that just the talk of how they just recently reinforced that side alone to withstand a plane impact?

You probably thought that section was empty and still under renovation because thats what CT sites told you. So, the CT sites pushing this are liars...the renovation was complete and everyone was back in that section.

They didnt renovate it to withstand a plane impact(and certainly not one at 550 mph), they renovated it to make it car bomb proof. Are you like the only Denier whose never seen to unbroken windows on the facade that collpased? Bomb proof..
Also, all 5 wedges were to be renovated, not just that one.

Funny that they were so smart as to get past all of our defenses and totaly pwn us but hit the side that doesnt house the big names like the vice president.Which i might figure would be a target.I guess there brilliant idiots?


Not very bright, are you?
Somehow, I dont think the VPs and SECDEFs offices are in the outer rings. Even if they were, do you realize each facade is 1000 ft wide? It would be impossible to hit that area exactly even if you had some idea where they were. Somehow I think any side would be ok with Hani, as long as he hit it.

The percentage of hitting any one facade? 1 in 5. Therefore any coincedence arguments are complete moronic idiocy..

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:07, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

apathoid pleae do not argue using logic and facts that will only cause Ronin to lose his one remaining brain cell.
AND now Ronin is going to go run and tell Dylan on you!!

 
At 26 August, 2006 16:30, Blogger apathoid said...

True, I don't why we bother sometimes. Debating CTers is tantamount to debating a horde of poo-flinging chimps.....

 
At 26 August, 2006 19:19, Blogger Lying_Dylan said...

......and they throw the same poo over and over and over.....

 
At 27 August, 2006 08:20, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

I can't believe they got past our defenses, either. Past all the Tesla-coils, attack dogs, missile batteries, and whatever else they surely must have installed around the Pentagon. You know--just like in Command and Conquer.

Here's some advice, ronin--when you're talking to grownups, try not to use fake words like 'pwn'. We're not your Counterstrike buddies, and real people died. They did not get 'totaly[sic] pwn'-ed.

Also, try proofreading your post. Maybe run it by someone with some reliable critical-thinking skills. Are you really suggesting that the big hole in this conspiracy is that they didn't take out the VP? Do a little reasearch on terrorism--their goal is TERROR.

That is such a twisted idea that it makes my head hurt trying to figure out what you were thinking. Not that it's particularly complex or clever, only that it's wrong and it makes you look simple.

 
At 27 August, 2006 10:07, Blogger Ronin said...

Ok so the pentagon has no air defenses,sure,and so what if i dont know who is in a section of the pentagon that only shows how american i am.I live in NJ we say here to go f youself when u give us a problem.Im saying it to bush cause he made a problem or let it happen either one.One of u is telling me aiming for one section would be hard yet the dude was going 550 mph like 5 feet from the ground come on...We all know that is a nearly imposible feat.If you say it isnt i dont care cause it still will be.Cause i live in a little place i like to call reality.This is a place where people make mistakes and know that in the future they will make more.Secret is to learn from them.You guys learn something here.No matter what you say no matter how much u decieve the american public they will get ahold of this one day and try and hold accountable who did what.Not that theyll even get a $50 fine but it will be a part of history.People like you guys dont take notice of history your the here and now all me crowd who cant see in front of your own faces and care not to because of fright.You refuse to see ur own hand in your faces.No care for the future but for yourselves.
Why wouldnt they target certain political people for murder when terrorizing i guess there in no way symbolic of america.Reality check?Im sure the presidents guys were like oh they only have been hitting buildings its ok lets get a soda and hang out.Oh and i will talk as i feel u do not run me in any way nor will u ever.Only God runs my life not people who would pat themselves on the backs 20 times before doing it for another person once,and u guys know that ur like that and so cocky i bet u would even admit it with glee and pride.Nice childish insults to guys and im the kid here huh?Monkey poo?Idiotic staement?If you dont want statements opposite of your own i do suggest that u do not go to debate type forums.
Moronic idiocy.Doesnt the fact that one side was renovated and hit say anything?Heres some reality for ya.If one side was only done and he had five sides to choose from the odds of him hitting that go down because normal buildings have 4 sides.So i see that moronic idiocy statement thrown back into your face.This is where you come back with an insult like ima mister poopy face.Save me the childish banter please.You guys will find it hard to defend something you know is a lie.But i guess you find it challenging.I know how evil people like to lie it makes them feel smart.Im a deception detector and i say you guys are full of shat.My weapon of choice is common sense.Cause all epople in the world lie i listen to myself.If u guys wanna follow ur leaders blindly into the dark then by all means be my guest.But just dont start feelin so lonely that u have to drag mr and ms public in with yas.Cause one day they may snap back and knock u the fock out.

 
At 27 August, 2006 10:52, Blogger Alex said...

At no point in your rambling, incoherant post did you come even close to anything which even resembles a rational point. Everyone in these forums is now dumber for having listened to you. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

 
At 27 August, 2006 10:52, Blogger shawn said...

My weapon of choice is common sense.

No...no it isn't.

 
At 27 August, 2006 11:41, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

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At 27 August, 2006 11:51, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

I submit that we were all just pwnd, I guess.

Here's something. If you kill a high-ranking government official, it's a national tragedy. However, it's still one that you really can't fully wrap your head around, because they were targeting one specific person, and one specific *type* of person. Unless I become Vice President, I will never fully feel the fear of being assassinated.

Now, imagine the guy who runs the corner store is shot and killed. Closer to home, yes, but still a few steps removed. They're still not targeting you, right? NOW, imagine they're shooting random people walking down the street. There's your terror. Anyone can be a target. Now magnify that a few thousand times. Now put all that terror in what is ostensibly a monument to our own progress.

Try harder, ronin.

You want me to help you up, or are you going to stay down there? No?

...you want a juice box?

 
At 27 August, 2006 16:43, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Ronin;

We can tell from your conversation that you are obviously new to the whole thing. I suggest, if you wish to learn, that you ask some questions, without strong language or opinion, and then maybe you'll get some non-toxic answers...

 
At 27 August, 2006 21:09, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

That's the thing, though--he obviously doesn't wish to learn. He's made up his mind that he's right (apparently without the need for external confirmation) and we're all liars.

How in the world do you reason with someone who calls himself 'a deception detector'?

 
At 28 August, 2006 18:18, Blogger compn said...

can anyone give me a link to the 911 sites claiming there were little military deaths at the pentagon?

if there are 911 sites claiming this, then they are really reaching... if not... its a strawman argument.

 
At 29 August, 2006 07:01, Blogger Pepik said...

dear mr. samurai warrior,

you are just like the rest. you come in with guns blazing, but when it is pointed out that your post is full of garbage, you just want to come back with "yeah but this, yeah but that".

That's the CT way. You don't blink, you don't question your sources. The fact that you have been fed utter garbage and fallen for it doesn't make you hesitate for even one moment before you go back and ask for seconds. why is that?

 

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