Deniers Go Nuts as Bush Mentions Explosives in WTC
Here's the transcript which is causing excitement in the 9-11 Denier's ranks:
(Note: See update below)
For example, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed described the design of planned attacks of buildings inside the U.S. and how operatives were directed to carry them out. That is valuable information for those of us who have the responsibility to protect the American people. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a high -- a point that was high enough to prevent people trapped above from escaping.
Of course, Bush is referring to the planes themselves as "explosives" here. The part about "high enough" may be a little confusing at first, but I think his point is that if the buildings had been struck lower, it is possible that helicopter rescuers may have been able to pluck people off the roof and the sides of the building.
Of course, that is not preventing massive celebrations in the 9-11 Denial Movement:
Democratic Underground:
There you have it. Bush admits to now knowing explosives were placed in the WTC towers. He can’t escape the truth anymore (9-11 Truth Movement is spreading like wildfire) and looks for the nearest Patsy, thereby placing the blame of explosives squarely on Khalid and Al Queda (but we really know who Al CIA-duh is don’t we?)
9-11 Blogger:
Bush HESITATES twice and gives away more than he is saying... he uses REVERSE LOGIC.. if the explosives are planted HIGH in the building.. there are LESS floors above where people can get trapped. i.e. If the OPERATIVES wanted to MINIMIZE the bloodbath they would WANT TO plant explosives HIGH in the building.
You know, I wouldn't find that convincing except for the all-caps, which prove to me that this is serious stuff indeed. ;)
Update: Kudos to folks in the JREF forums who pointed out that this does not necessarily refer to 9-11, and may refer to other planned attacks. Note this preceding paragraph to the one I quoted:
The bill would also provide clear rules for our personnel involved in detaining and questioning captured terrorists. The information that the Central Intelligence Agency has obtained by questioning men like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has provided valuable information and has helped disrupt terrorist plots, including strikes within the United States.
So this may refer to post-911 attacks that were thwarted.
posted by Pat @ 11:03 AM
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I guess we have no need for the LC movement anymore, then!
Cat's outta the bag! See ya, kiddies!
Thats it,
I'm convinced... it WAS an inside job.
sign me up...and i wanna black shirt or else no deal...lol
TAM
Shoot. You figure the Illuminati Free Mason Zionist New World Order (tm) could afford better proofreaders for their speeches....
This is like when Rumsfield called the plane that hit the Pentagon a missle - those genius inside jobbers not realizing that any object projected at a target is a "missle".
"Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Truth movement.
This is a non issue, he was talking about atttacks that were thwarted.
The terrorists were being instructed to place explosives high enough in future attacks to cut off people from the hook and ladder and other rescue trucks that can be reached from the street.
Plant explosives high enough to cut off the exits so that they cannot be reached from the street and you will cause greater death tolls as people will be unable to escape.
This has nothing to do with 9/11 at all.
DKK
If only they could get a hold of that voice morphing technology and holograms, at least they could make their movement look bigger! ;)
I've posted numerous facts and links to Israel
No you haven't. You've posted myths, conjecture, and lies.
that should be investigated and questioned, and it's never met by anything more than a played out joke or whiny remark about anti-semitism.
Ofcourse, what do you expect. Israel is the first scapegoat of anti-semites and lunatics. At this point they could probably pull off a massive operation and none of us would believe it initially just because you idiots keep blaming them for EVERYTHING. On the other hand, if you had actual evidence I'd certainly look at it with an open mind.
Numerous NIST and PM "facts" have also been proved wrong.
No, they haven't. You saying "I don't think that's possible" is not equivalent to proving something wrong.
The officials have done a terrible job so far, and some of it opens them up for suspicion.
They did a fantastic job. You're just either too lazy to look at their research, or too stupid to understand it.
whiny remark about anti-semitism.
It's odd how the way to silence critics of antisemites is to say that a "cry" of antisemitism is only used to silence valid criticism.
Israeli Mossad agents were arrested laughing and filming the attacks and were found with box-cutters, large amounts of cash, hilighted maps, foreign passports, and bomb-sniffing dogs reacted like they had found explosives.
Mostly rumor, but even if true, so what? What does it prove? Those individuals were held and questioned afterwards, so they've already been investigated. The feds obviously figured there was nothing to be gained by holding them any longer.
The Israeli owner of that company fled to Israel, even though the FBI wanted to conduct further questioning on him.
Imagine that, a spy ran away after getting made by the feds. Will wonders never cease. Those Israelis are so uncivilized. They're not nearly as nice as the Chinese and Russian spies, who just sit still and wait for someone to throw the cuffs on them.
Israel has been caught spying on the US on numerous occasions. Moles within our own government were also caught passing secrets to Israel.
How many times do I have to explain to you that pretty much every country spies on every other? The CIA and NSA are keeping an eye on it; their investigations should never and WILL never be made available to a bunch of anti-semitic idiots looking to link Israel to 9/11.
Mohammed Atta had a body double in the Mossad.
And?
Iraqi Oil pipelines are being re-routed to Israel.
WTF are you smoking? If this is a fact, I'm a Japanese jet pilot.
Let's start off with those.
Ok, well despite the FACT that half are wrong and the rest irrelevant, I'm willing to accept most of that. Now what exactly needs to be investigated? How should it be investigated? Who should it be investigated BY?
PM claims to have never heard the term 'pull it' in reference to CD. Wrong. Every demolition company that has been interviewed is very familiar with the term and the very CD company at ground zero was filmed saying "we're getting ready to pull building 6."
References please.
NIST confused physical results and computer results at every point in their investigation.
Evidence please.
NIST manipulated computer results.
Evidence please.
NIST's metallurgical tests on the steel only showed temps of 250C/500F - not 1000.
Irrelevant, you've misunderstood the purpose of that test.
The temperatures were NOT severe enough to cause any weakening of the structural steel. Period. Fact.
Wrong again. 1000 degrees is certainly strong enough to weaken steel by a significant factor. Even 500 would weaken it, although not nearly as much.
NIST fails to provide scientific data in their reports.
That's not the purpose of the reports you ass-clown.
WHAT RESEARCH YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!? THEY DIDN'T DO ANY! They haven't showed any scientific data on the collapses! They fail to provide sources! You are clueless.
Ah, yes, they didn't watch your movie on Youtube, so by your definition they didn't do any research. Meanwhile the thousands of hours spent examining evidence is irrelevant to you. Right.
-this is NIST's own testing on the steel...250C and the pictures show that the temperatures weren't even hot enough to burn off the cement paint on the columns! That's science right there...nothing supports your bullshit claims - so until you or the government provide me with some calculations this will continue to be viewed as a hoax....
Once again you misunderstand the purpose of that portion of the report. Not surprising. The sample you talk about was collected from the 98th floor, which was near the upper limit of the impact. The fires were hotter at lower levels (96-97).
Now I showed you my scientific data....WHERE'S YOURS?
Your data wasn't exactly scientific (it's a goddamn powerpoint presentation), and it wasn't relevant to what we were discussing. On the other hand, this is:
Initial model for fires in the WTC towers or try the
HTML version.
There's plenty more where that came from, I just don't have the references on hand. If you'd made an effort to go look over the actual report instead of just linking to a powerpoint presentation you found on some CT website, you might actually have learned something. As it is, you're just joining the CT circle-jerk.
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