Wednesday, February 21, 2007

Well-Written Nonsense...

Is still nonsense. Kurt Nimmo takes on George Monbiot:

Not unlike his brethren, most notably Noam Chomsky and Alex Cockburn, Monbiot buys the Ward Churchill version of events in regard to the attacks of September 11, 2001—that is to say Osama and a small number of cave-dwelling Wahhabi fanatics magically made NORAD stand down and defied the immutable laws of physics, thus delivering one to the conclusion a piece of paper cannot be slipped between Monbiot and the moonstruck followers of the neocons, as they all buy the same Brothers Grimm fairy tale.


I would venture to say that you cannot slip a piece of paper between Monbiot and the neocons on the law of gravity, on the fact that the earth rotates around the sun, on the fact that the sky is blue. I note the usual "cave-dwelling" comment about Al Qaeda; they were not living in a cave prior to 9-11.

He doesn't really have an argument with the substance of what Monbiot writes, so he concentrates on arguments that Monbiot is serving his corporate masters. It's the usual refrain from those whose ideas are so crazy that they can't even get the far Left to endorse them.

Nimmo writes well, but in service to a lousy cause. I note that he has more than the usual share of nutbar websites on his blogroll, including Ziopedia, World Socialist Website, What Really Happened, Wayne Madsen, American Free Press and Prison Planet. Looks like he's yet another Lefty Jew-basher.

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19 Comments:

At 21 February, 2007 14:10, Blogger BG said...

I agree with you Pat.

Without well sourced, cross-examined evidence to substantiate Nimmo's "world view", which underlies his criticism of Monbiot, it's no surprise that you or anyone, not of like mind, would find his writing nonsense.

On the other hand, it is somewhat odd that Monbiot, who at one time was open to extreme skepticism on the official story, has become so dismissive of reasonable questions about 9/11.

 
At 21 February, 2007 14:45, Blogger James B. said...

Did it ever occur to you that they are not "reasonable questions"?

Just a thought. I am just putting that out there for your consideration...

 
At 21 February, 2007 15:00, Blogger shawn said...

"Oh man those brown people living in the desert could never attack America. Oh, and we aren't racist!"

 
At 21 February, 2007 16:29, Blogger Manny said...

Did it ever occur to you that they are not "reasonable questions"?

Alternatively, if one's worldview were similar to Monbiot's, the questions might be eminently reasonable but are met with ironclad, unassailably true answers.

That is one of the many fallacies of the troofers. They say they're "just asking questions." They are not. The people questioning NIST on whether the buildings would have stood had the fireproofing not been blown off are just asking questions. The people who wonder how the FAA and NORAD's hijacking protocol assumed hijackers would not know to turn off the transponder squawk are just asking questions. The people assailing the wall between FBI and CIA are just asking questions. The troofers are "just asking questions" which have been answered to the complete satisfaction of any sane individual a million, billion times.

 
At 21 February, 2007 16:49, Blogger Falco98 said...

I wonder if he refers to the same "laws of physics" as those cited by Uncle FetzBar (in that BBC 'hit-piece') which would prevent a 757 from crashing into the side of a building? Since, you know, it's... um... impossible, and all.

 
At 21 February, 2007 19:52, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

That Fetzer clip was awesome. I can't get enough of Fetzer making a fool of himself, and he does it so often, I am getting fat on his junk.

TAM:)

 
At 22 February, 2007 00:16, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

He seemed like he was about to headbutt the camera throughout. Maybe he wanted to.

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:16, Blogger 911_truthiness said...

...On the other hand, it is somewhat odd that Monbiot, who at one time was open to extreme skepticism on the official story, has become so dismissive of reasonable questions about 9/11.....


No. As you get older, your get smarter and less likely to be fooled into screwy ideas.

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:21, Blogger Alex said...

That's a dumb generalization. BG's an old fart, but he's still a delusional idiot. Age has nothing to do with it.

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:26, Blogger 911_truthiness said...

"reasonable questions"?

So is it a reasonable question to ask "bg" if he suffered brain damage at birth or to an accident?

bg... how long have you hated Jews?

bg... How long have you been a member of Al'Qieda, and why do you love Osama so much?

Just reasonable questions, and if you do not answer them and present proof to back it up we will have to assume you are in fact a Brain damaged, Jew hating member of Al'Qieda

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:39, Blogger 911coverup said...

Isn't wayne madsen jewish?

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:45, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

Well the operative weren't living in a cave, some of them were living with an FBI informant,some of them were being tracked by Mossad and Able Danger. Some were training at flight schools where huge heroin busts take place with connections to Intel Agencies.

OBL was in the caves directing it all!

 
At 22 February, 2007 06:56, Blogger PhilBiker said...

You think that's good writing?

 
At 22 February, 2007 07:08, Blogger 911coverup said...

Gov. Jeb Bush declared martial law in Florida on 9/11 which gave him the authority to swipe all police records of the alleged hijackers soon thereafter.

 
At 22 February, 2007 07:11, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

Did it ever occur to you that they are not "reasonable questions"?

What makes your questions reasonable, JamesB, and why do you have them?

Second, what are those particular questions?

Third, have you ever found an answer to your questions?

 
At 22 February, 2007 12:26, Blogger The Reverend Schmitt., FCD. said...

Swing Dangler said:

What makes your questions reasonable, JamesB, and why do you have them?

Second, what are those particular questions?


The really sad thing is I can remember the last time he actually enumerated them to you, which is probably a significant amount of evidence that I should stop reading the comments pages.

 
At 22 February, 2007 13:01, Blogger shawn said...

Gov. Jeb Bush declared martial law in Florida on 9/11 which gave him the authority to swipe all police records of the alleged hijackers soon thereafter.

I may be wrong, but I believe the last time martial law was enacted in the United States proper was the Civil War (Hawaii was under martial law from 1941-1945 but was not a state at the time).

 
At 22 February, 2007 13:44, Blogger Alex said...

Technically speaking you're right, although New Orleans right after Katrina was placed under "Emergency Measures" which basically amounted to Martial Law. The only reason they didn't actually declare martial law is because the Louisiana state laws don't actually have the words "martial law" on the books. But you're right in that the thing about Jeb Bush and Florida is a bunch of malarkey. There was an act passed a couple days before 9/11 which activated some National Guard troops for the purpose of training with local law enforcement, however, from what I understand the only purpose of the act was to ensure that the soldiers would be properly covered if they were injured during the training. Anyway, conspiracy nuts saw this act and got all excited because in their minds it was the same as an order to institute martial law. In reality, it was nothing of the sort.

 
At 22 February, 2007 20:10, Blogger Pat said...

Phil, I figure anybody who can use words like "doyens" and refer to something as "foundation oiled" (although it should be hyphated) is slinging the words around pretty well. Still, lousy cause.

 

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