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Thursday, March 15, 2007
9-11 Building 7
I hate to admit it, but this song is pretty well-produced. The video's kinda crappy. Kudos to BG for pointing us to it.
Basically shows luce-rockefeller -ford foundation support and ties to David Ray Griffin-Kevin Barrett MUJCA, see also documentation and links at references sited on google page.
Ok, I finally watched the damn video. I'm afraid Pat is right, it is very professionally produced. But then; so was Triumph of The Will and Birth of a Nation.
The chorus of the song is just infuriating to no end. "Fire isn't hot enough to bring it down" they sing. Why does the truth movement insist upon repeating this LIE?
For what will unfortunately never be the last time; steel melts at 2900 degrees, but 1800 degrees is all it takes to diminish its strength by NINETY-FRAKKING-PERCENT!!!
For what will unfortunately never be the last time; steel melts at 2900 degrees, but 1800 degrees is all it takes to diminish its strength by NINETY-FRAKKING-PERCENT!!!
Where did that jet fuel fire explode? A) All in the tower B)1/2 in the tower C)Mostly outside the tower D)Depends on which tower your referring to.
Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a A)Extremely hot fire B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire
Which tower fell first? A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time. B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time.
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
For how many hours must steel be at 1800 degrees before it looses 90% of its strength?
What materials in the towers sustained temperatures of 1800 degrees in the twin towers considering the jet fuel burned up almost instantly due to the explosion?
Why were people photographed at the edge of the impact holes touching and standing in an area that supposedly 1800+ degree inferno burned hot enough to weaken steel to only 10% of strength causing collapse initiation?
What evidence is there that the fire anywhere on that day reached 1800+ degrees?
According to you, why did all the steel loose up to 90% of its strength and fail AT THE SAME TIME even though the damage and the fire was not symmetrical at all of the points of failure?
Finally, can you please link to the scientific manual where you obtain your data and where you found the answers?
Thanks, I'm sure you will be able to do that, Sword of Lies.
Swing Dangler said: "Where did that jet fuel fire explode? A) All in the tower B)1/2 in the tower C)Mostly outside the tower D)Depends on which tower your referring to."
Irrelevant to the claim that fire weakened the steel to the point of failure. Jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning that day.
"Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a A)Extremely hot fire B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire"
Black smoke is more indicative of the material that's burning than the amount of oxygen available to the fire.
"Which tower fell first? A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time. B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time."
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
The one that was struck lower and, therefore, had to support a much larger load on its damaged floors. The failure threshold for the surviving steel was much lower than in the other tower.
This is extremely old information, Swing. Did you lose your memory recently?
Cl1mh4224rd Does sd stay up nights thinking up the same stupid questions? Black smoke= petrolium fires. Kuwait is a good example. Look at the color of the smoke when pipelines are blown up. All the jet fuel did not burn up instantly, there was a substantial amount in the towers. It is possible that the fire created its own wind and the severed the walls, allowed air to rush in acting like a bellows on a forge, thus increasing the heat substantialy. There have never been buildings destroyed in the way that happened on 911 so there is nothing to gage from. I have seen steel storage tanks bend like beer cans in an oil fire and that is half inch steel. I witnessed an oil derrik fire once from half a mile or so away, it made noises and shook the ground like a train and in 30 min the steel structure had bent and colapsed. If you look at some of the steel buildings that were burnt after the Pearl Harbor attack you can see hundreds of steel girders that weakened and bent from the heat of the fires.
We don't know what other types of combustable materials were in the towers but there had to be plenty in buildings this large. Not only that, but the furniture and loads of flammable material also increased the temperature and made the fires more widespread. Carbon-based materials and plastics have a high heat release, according to Glenn Corbett, an assistant professor of fire science, a fire safety engineer, and the technical editor of the Firehouse magazine.
Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a A)Extremely hot fire B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire
False dilemma.
Which tower fell first? A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time. B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time.
Unstated major premise, beggine the question.
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
Straw man, red herring, false dilemma, hasty generalization.
For how many hours must steel be at 1800 degrees before it looses 90% of its strength?
Unstated major premise.
What materials in the towers sustained temperatures of 1800 degrees in the twin towers considering the jet fuel burned up almost instantly due to the explosion?
False dilemma.
Why were people photographed at the edge of the impact holes touching and standing in an area that supposedly 1800+ degree inferno burned hot enough to weaken steel to only 10% of strength causing collapse initiation?
This isn't even a logical falacy, it's just plain wrong.
What evidence is there that the fire anywhere on that day reached 1800+ degrees?
Valid question, but stems from ignorance, which is not a good argument tactic.
According to you, why did all the steel loose up to 90% of its strength and fail AT THE SAME TIME even though the damage and the fire was not symmetrical at all of the points of failure?
Strawman.
Finally, can you please link to the scientific manual where you obtain your data and where you found the answers?
Valid question, I'll leave that one for SoT if he feels like humoring you.
Thanks, I'm sure you will be able to do that, Sword of Lies.
I saw one so called person at the edge of the hole but the fire had gone and when I blew up the pik to 1000 pixels it turned out to be a file cabinet. Nobody can say what went on, there are always pockets where things happen, look at those fire fighters that survived after the collapse
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You guys posted the song months ago. The first few lines are all you really need to hear. "NO! It CAN'T be true!"
Discussion of the instiutions supporting the 911 Truth groups at:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4690566665560241069&q=geo+karras&hl=en
Basically shows luce-rockefeller -ford foundation support and ties to David Ray Griffin-Kevin Barrett MUJCA, see also documentation and links at references sited on google page.
Basically shows luce-rockefeller -ford foundation support and ties to David Ray Griffin-Kevin Barrett MUJCA
Does this mean the latter batch of morons are part of the fascist global cabal too? Gosh, who isn't in on the conspiracy?
I see the fruitloops are having a field day claiming Khalid Sheik Muhammed was nothing but a poor sheep herder.
I liked Cartman's 9/11 song better
That is retarded.
RE: hijackers:
"Of those 19 guys,
7 are still alive"
So why did they highlight 8?
What's retarded is Jenny Sparks is still pretending to be Pat over at SLC Exposed as if Pat never blew the whistle on her.
Looks like Kernel Sparks is a stalker. Most CTers have some sort of disorder, so I guess it isn't surprising.
I'd like to post a long comment here, but first I'll need to do something about the blood gushing from my ears.
Ok, I finally watched the damn video. I'm afraid Pat is right, it is very professionally produced. But then; so was Triumph of The Will and Birth of a Nation.
The chorus of the song is just infuriating to no end. "Fire isn't hot enough to bring it down" they sing. Why does the truth movement insist upon repeating this LIE?
For what will unfortunately never be the last time; steel melts at 2900 degrees, but 1800 degrees is all it takes to diminish its strength by NINETY-FRAKKING-PERCENT!!!
That is retarded.
RE: hijackers:
"Of those 19 guys,
7 are still alive"
So why did they highlight 8?
They highlighted 9, I actually only came to the comments thing to say that... what maroons.
For what will unfortunately never be the last time; steel melts at 2900 degrees, but 1800 degrees is all it takes to diminish its strength by NINETY-FRAKKING-PERCENT!!!
Where did that jet fuel fire explode?
A) All in the tower
B)1/2 in the tower
C)Mostly outside the tower
D)Depends on which tower your referring to.
Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a
A)Extremely hot fire
B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire
Which tower fell first?
A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time.
B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time.
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
For how many hours must steel be at 1800 degrees before it looses 90% of its strength?
What materials in the towers sustained temperatures of 1800 degrees in the twin towers considering the jet fuel burned up almost instantly due to the explosion?
Why were people photographed at the edge of the impact holes touching and standing in an area that supposedly 1800+ degree inferno burned hot enough to weaken steel to only 10% of strength causing collapse initiation?
What evidence is there that the fire anywhere on that day reached 1800+ degrees?
According to you, why did all the steel loose up to 90% of its strength and fail AT THE SAME TIME even though the damage and the fire was not symmetrical at all of the points of failure?
Finally, can you please link to the scientific manual where you obtain your data and where you found the answers?
Thanks, I'm sure you will be able to do that, Sword of Lies.
Woo! It's retro night at the Dangler household.
Swing Dangler said: "Where did that jet fuel fire explode?
A) All in the tower
B)1/2 in the tower
C)Mostly outside the tower
D)Depends on which tower your referring to."
Irrelevant to the claim that fire weakened the steel to the point of failure. Jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning that day.
"Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a
A)Extremely hot fire
B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire"
Black smoke is more indicative of the material that's burning than the amount of oxygen available to the fire.
http://www.buncefield-oil-fire-hemel-hempstead.wingedfeet.co.uk/images/02sunday/aerial%20fire%204.jpg
"Which tower fell first?
A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time.
B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time."
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
The one that was struck lower and, therefore, had to support a much larger load on its damaged floors. The failure threshold for the surviving steel was much lower than in the other tower.
This is extremely old information, Swing. Did you lose your memory recently?
Screwed up the link...
Open-air fire, black smoke
And for the hell of it, here's a Google Images search for '"black smoke" fire'.
What do you mean "recently"?
Cl1mh4224rd
Does sd stay up nights thinking up the same stupid questions?
Black smoke= petrolium fires. Kuwait is a good example. Look at the color of the smoke when pipelines are blown up. All the jet fuel did not burn up instantly, there was a substantial amount in the towers.
It is possible that the fire created its own wind and the severed the walls, allowed air to rush in acting like a bellows on a forge, thus increasing the heat substantialy.
There have never been buildings destroyed in the way that happened on 911 so there is nothing to gage from.
I have seen steel storage tanks bend like beer cans in an oil fire and that is half inch steel. I witnessed an oil derrik fire once from half a mile or so away, it made noises and shook the ground like a train and in 30 min the steel structure had bent and colapsed. If you look at some of the steel buildings that were burnt after the Pearl Harbor attack you can see hundreds of steel girders that weakened and bent from the heat of the fires.
We don't know what other types of combustable materials were in the towers but there had to be plenty in buildings this large. Not only that, but the furniture and loads of flammable material also increased the temperature and made the fires more widespread. Carbon-based materials and plastics have a high heat release, according to Glenn Corbett, an assistant professor of fire science, a fire safety engineer, and the technical editor of the Firehouse magazine.
Finally, can you please link to the scientific manual where you obtain your data and where you found the answers?
Your the "educator" with a masters degree, you tell me.
Where did that jet fuel fire explode?
Unstated major premise, false dilemma.
Black smoke from a fire is indicitive of a
A)Extremely hot fire
B)An oxygen starved low temperatures fire
False dilemma.
Which tower fell first?
A) The first one hit where fires burned for longer period of time.
B)The second one hit where fires burned for a shorter period of time.
Unstated major premise, beggine the question.
With all things being equal, why according to simple physics, did the wrong tower fall first?
Straw man, red herring, false dilemma, hasty generalization.
For how many hours must steel be at 1800 degrees before it looses 90% of its strength?
Unstated major premise.
What materials in the towers sustained temperatures of 1800 degrees in the twin towers considering the jet fuel burned up almost instantly due to the explosion?
False dilemma.
Why were people photographed at the edge of the impact holes touching and standing in an area that supposedly 1800+ degree inferno burned hot enough to weaken steel to only 10% of strength causing collapse initiation?
This isn't even a logical falacy, it's just plain wrong.
What evidence is there that the fire anywhere on that day reached 1800+ degrees?
Valid question, but stems from ignorance, which is not a good argument tactic.
According to you, why did all the steel loose up to 90% of its strength and fail AT THE SAME TIME even though the damage and the fire was not symmetrical at all of the points of failure?
Strawman.
Finally, can you please link to the scientific manual where you obtain your data and where you found the answers?
Valid question, I'll leave that one for SoT if he feels like humoring you.
Thanks, I'm sure you will be able to do that, Sword of Lies.
Ad Hominem, false dilemma.
I saw one so called person at the edge of the hole but the fire had gone and when I blew up the pik to 1000 pixels it turned out to be a file cabinet. Nobody can say what went on, there are always pockets where things happen, look at those fire fighters that survived after the collapse
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