Wednesday, March 14, 2007

It's All Over for the Deniers

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed admits he planned it:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, confessed to that attack and a string of others during a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a transcript released Wednesday by the Pentagon.

''I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A to Z,'' Mohammed said in a statement that was read during the session, which was held last Saturday.

Mohammed claimed responsibility for planning, financing and training others for attacks ranging from the 1993 truck bombing of the World Trade Center to the attempt by would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives hidden in his shoes. And he also claimed that he was tortured by the CIA after his capture in 2003.


Well, you can probably guess what the Deniers have to say about this, right? Sure, he confessed, but he was tortured. And anyway, it's the fat Khalid Sheik Mohmammed, wearing a gold ring and wiping his butt with his left hand even though everybody knows he's right-handed.

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At 14 March, 2007 18:58, Blogger texasjack said...

A KSM confession is game, set, and match to reasonable people, however, Pat is right, troothers will come up with some stupid excuse to explain it away.

 
At 14 March, 2007 19:25, Blogger CHF said...

Yeah, yeah....

HE WAS TORTURED INTO CONFESSING!

DOESN'T COUNT!

 
At 14 March, 2007 19:31, Blogger SoulReal said...

There is a report going around from a group that has a reputation for publishing propaganda for conspiracy theories. Here is a small quote from that article,

"On a new blog website called Screw Loose Change Exposed, the dissenting individual, known as Pat, describes why he and his former debunker-in-chief James decided to go their separate ways.

Pat relates how James pushed him to to "All but invent the crisis of Holocaust denial" and apply it to the truth movement, "Though in fact, it is no more prevalent there than anywhere else," admits Pat.

Citing his refusal to "condone the underhanded methods we've tolerated," Pat writes that there is "no honesty to debunking 911 truth."

I have my own opinions about things involving 9-11, but the fact is that I really despise liars. I am interested to know if any of this is true and if not, can I do a podcast interview with you for my website truthlovefreedom.org exposing these lies? If so you can contact me on my website.

Here is where I saw the article.
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=8669

 
At 14 March, 2007 19:31, Blogger texasjack said...

The torture route isn't going to go to far: in the documentary "Top Secret: The Road to September 11," which aired on Al-Jazeera months before KSM's capture, KSM admits to planning the attacks. Or is Al-Jazeera in on the conspiracy also?

 
At 14 March, 2007 19:32, Blogger SoulReal said...

There is a report going around from a group that has a reputation for publishing propaganda for conspiracy theories. Here is a small quote from that article,

"On a new blog website called Screw Loose Change Exposed, the dissenting individual, known as Pat, describes why he and his former debunker-in-chief James decided to go their separate ways.

Pat relates how James pushed him to to "All but invent the crisis of Holocaust denial" and apply it to the truth movement, "Though in fact, it is no more prevalent there than anywhere else," admits Pat.

Citing his refusal to "condone the underhanded methods we've tolerated," Pat writes that there is "no honesty to debunking 911 truth."

I have my own opinions about things involving 9-11, but the fact is that I really despise liars. I am interested to know if any of this is true and if not, can I do a podcast interview with you for my website truthlovefreedom.org exposing these lies? If so you can contact me on my website.

Here is where I saw the article.
http://conspiracycentral.info/index.php?showtopic=8669

 
At 14 March, 2007 19:33, Blogger Rowe_Korey said...

Dylan says he might want to put him in the film.

Jason says its all in his research.

This is a false flag, and Dylan says his is at half mast.

 
At 14 March, 2007 20:24, Blogger Fred said...

KSM planned and executed his role in 9-11 flawlessly, along with the other 19 patsies. The 19 knew the planes would be flown by remote control. The 19 did not know it was a one way flight. KSM speaks the truth, but did not know the entire story. KSM was a tool of the CIA, AKA "al-Quada"

 
At 14 March, 2007 20:27, Blogger CHF said...

KSM planned and executed his role in 9-11 flawlessly, along with the other 19 patsies. The 19 knew the planes would be flown by remote control. The 19 did not know it was a one way flight.

Wait, wait wait....

So the hijackers got on the planes knowing they would be flown around by remote control?

Never heard that one before.

 
At 14 March, 2007 20:37, Blogger Fred said...

The 19 may or may not have known 9-11 was a suicide mission. One can easily envision several scenarios where the 19 knew or didn't know, were present on the planes or were not. It is safe to say that Hani Hanjour could not fly a 767 into the Pentagon any more than you or I.

 
At 14 March, 2007 20:52, Blogger CHF said...

One can easily envision several scenarios where the 19 knew or didn't know, were present on the planes or were not.

Right, well I really don't think you'll prove much by envisioning things, Fred.

I can close my eyes and envision the terrorists as a band of drunken Tibetan monks. But it's not all that logical or very likely given the evidence.

 
At 14 March, 2007 22:01, Blogger Alex said...

It is safe to say that Hani Hanjour could not fly a 767 into the Pentagon any more than you or I.

Well, yes, actually you're absolutely right, but not for the reason you think. The reason you're right is because I certainly COULD fly a 767 into the pentagon (although it was a 757) and so could you if you spent 15 minutes with me in a simulator teaching you the controls.

 
At 14 March, 2007 22:07, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, confessed to that attack and a string of others during a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to a transcript released Wednesday by the Pentagon.

1.) Inject KSM with radioactive dyes like the kind used in Positron Emission Tomography.

2.) Execute the @#$%er.

3.) Bury him in a grain field.

4.) When the grain has absorbed a significant amount of radioactive molecules, harvest it and send it to a feedlot for hogs.

5.) Take the most radioactive hog, name it "Khalid", use it in propaganda material.

 
At 15 March, 2007 05:23, Blogger Kevin said...

But, of course, this is actually old news since a KSM confession was also part of the evidence presented at the moussaoui trial.

http://www.rcfp.org/moussaoui/pdf/DX-0941.pdf

 
At 15 March, 2007 05:32, Blogger Stevew said...

I found this interesting

A fact frequently cited as evidence that that the aircraft that attacked the Pentagon on 9/11/01 was not Flight 77, a Boeing 757, is that the aircraft tracked by air traffic controllers made a spectacular spiral dive, loosing 7000 feet and turning 270 degrees in about 2.5 minutes -- a maneuver alleged to be impossible for a 757. A September 12, 2001 CBS News report described the maneuver:

Radar shows that Flight 77 did a downward spiral, turning almost a complete circle and dropping the last 7000 feet in two-and-a-half minutes.

Air traffic controller Danielle O'Brien told ABC News that the maneuver was not one expected of a jetliner:

The speed, the maneuverability, the way that he turned, we all thought in the radar room, all of us experienced air-traffic controllers, that that was a military plane.
However, the fact that the plane was being flown in a manner not typical for a jetliner does not mean it was not a jetliner. A 757 is capable of rather extreme maneuvers: It is capable of taking off on one engine, and can execute pitch accelerations of over 3.5 Gs (gravities) as demonstrated by the following incident report of an IcelandAir 757-200:

REPORT 7/2003 - Date: 22 January 2003
serious incident to icelandair BOEING 757-200 at oslo airport gardermoen norway 22 january 2002
1.1.14.5 At this time the First Officer called out PULL UP! - PULL UP!. The GPWS aural warnings of TERRAIN and then TOO LOW TERRAIN were activated. Both pilots were active at the control columns and a maximum up input was made. A split between left and right elevator was indicated at this time. It appears the split occurred due to both pilots being active at the controls. The pilots did not register the aural warnings. During the dive the airspeed increased to 251 kt and the lowest altitude in the recovery was 321 ft radio altitude with a peaked load factor of +3.59 gs.

How does this apply to the 2.5 minute 270-degree spiral turn? The G forces produced by such a turn can be calculated using the following formula.

RCF = 0.001118 * r * N^2
where
RCF = Relative Centrifugal Force (gravities)
r = rotation radius (meters)
N = rotation speed (revolutions per minute)
http://911review.com/disinfo/sites.html
If the plane were traveling at 400 miles per hour it would travel 16.666 miles, or 26,821 meters, in 2.5 minutes. Assuming it was traveling in a circular arc, it would trace out 3/4ths of a circle with a 35,761-meter circumference, giving a rotation radius of 5,691 meters and rotation speed of 0.3 rotations per minute. Plugging those values into the above equation, we obtain a centrifugal force of 0.5726 Gs -- hardly a problem for a 757 whose rated G limits are over two.

 
At 15 March, 2007 06:05, Blogger Mark said...

Flight 77's FDR tells us that it didn't pull excessive G's

 
At 15 March, 2007 06:31, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

I thought Osamma Bin Laden was responsible?

 
At 15 March, 2007 06:37, Blogger Swing Dangler said...

Is this the end for this blog that SLC links to?

http://osamadiditgetalife.
blogspot.com/

Man I'm suprised this Ron Jeremy look alike didn't confess to killing JFK from the knoll, hanging out with Tim McVeigh, torching the compound in Texas, trying to kill Regan, murdering Diana,making IED's in Iraq, and so on and so on.

Soooo why did we hit Afghanistan and Iraq again?

 
At 15 March, 2007 07:50, Blogger Alex said...

Steve, it's nice of you to do all that math, but it's really not necessary. Any pilot will tell you that there was nothing particularly special about that manouver, other than that, if a normal pilot had performed it, the airline would have received a few complaints from irate passengers who spilled their drinks or fell over on their way to the bathroom.

 
At 15 March, 2007 08:25, Blogger Thomas said...

I thought Osamma Bin Laden was responsible?

Which part of

"I was the Operational Director for Sheikh Usama Bin Laden for the organizing, planning, follow-up and execution of the 9/11 Operation"

don't you understand?

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Combatant_Tribunals.html

 
At 15 March, 2007 09:28, Blogger Stevew said...

I know Alex but the toofers always want proof so this was a documented case. 2G turns are not a problem for modern airliners. Did you ever see the Dash 7 prototype do a barrell roll when Boeing was demonstraiting it?

 
At 15 March, 2007 09:32, Blogger tempestuous said...

Yea, the hairy backed lunatic did it. The pope, 911; everything. Maybe he's also the source of the holocaust denial propaganda...No that's James B. (Meigs).

 
At 15 March, 2007 13:15, Blogger Der Bruno Stroszek said...

I thought Osamma Bin Laden was responsible?

Desperate stuff there, Swing, even by your usual low standards. I'm not sure you're aware of this, but al-Qaeda are said to have more than one member.

Tempestuous seems to be making even less sense than usual.

 
At 15 March, 2007 14:03, Blogger shawn said...

The 19 may or may not have known 9-11 was a suicide mission.

They made martyrdom tapes, so the rational assumption is they knew they were on a suicide mission.

The CIA has no and never has had a connection to al-Qaeda (including the supposed funding of bin Laden during the Soviet-Afghan War).

 
At 15 March, 2007 14:06, Blogger Alex said...

A tempest in a teacup?

Yeah Steve, I've seen some of those videos. The thing that most impressed me was seeing the win-deflection test on a Boing. Actually, I think you're the one that provided the link. Seeing that really drives the point home that these things are designed to take a LOT of stress.

 
At 15 March, 2007 14:36, Blogger Stevew said...

Indeed I think the 777's wings broke at 27' deflection and sounded like an explosion when they broke

 
At 23 March, 2007 07:10, Blogger Air Force Investigator said...

I am a retired Air Force member who served with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations. Before my time with the OSI, I worked frequently around the flightline. I learned that tires on aircraft are under a huge amount of pressure, and people have actually died in mishaps when tires exploded. There were a lot of inflated tires on the planes that hit the world trade center... those tires, during the fire, would certainly have exploded creating the explosions people heard. Additionally, I did hundreds of security clearance investigations on Air Force people, to make sure they were trustworthy, without criminal records, financially stable, reliable, and honest. It's preposterous to me that the people who would have been in positions to create this alleged conspiracy, after having top secret clearance investigations, would suddenly become mass-murderers, then go home to have dinner with their wives and children.

 

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