Tuesday, April 10, 2007

After the Circus

The previously hidden author of the "Flying Elephants" paper at the Journal of 9/11 Studies, has gone public in a letter to the same. He is now revealing his side of the story regarding how this horrible piece of research came to be:

The "Flying Elephant" was not a creature of "malicious intent" but rather a product of discussion originating on a thread in the old st911 forum. Several member/researchers were at the time seeking visual evidence to support the supposition of remote guidance and/or aerial war games (assuming the hits on
CD=prepped towers would not be left to chance).

I am not aware of anyone accusing him of "malicious intent", we just thought he was an idiot. This is what happens when you assume a theory, and desperately search for evidence to back it up, no matter how ridiculous, and are in a link-minded echo chamber of people who will do nothing but encourage you.

He continues later:

In a defensive reflex I resigned from st911 and asked for the paper to be removed from the Journal. Judy Wood, then co-editor of the Journal emailed me requesting to be allowed to keep it as "property of st911", to which I naively agreed. Without consultation, in what I still regard as a well-meaning protective gesture, Jim Fetzer quickly issued his "press release", magnifying the error.

First of all, how the heck does Fetzer get from "My paper sucks, I resign" to "People are sending me death threats over my paper"?

Secondly why should he resign? This paper underwent a review by hundreds of "experts" in the Scholars' forum, and then underwent a "peer review" process at the esteemed "Journal for 9/11 Studies". It is not like this was some obscure subject that was open to interpretation, the debunkers spotted the problems within a matter of minutes. If anyone should resign it should be the editors of the Journal, like Steven Jones, who organized such a lame review that this paper was considered for publication in the first place!

So I want to a lead a call for the reinstatement of Reynolds Dixon! Fire Steven Jones instead.

BTW, on a related note, even after complaining that I didn't notify him of problems with his photo earlier, Jones refuses to reply to my previous "open letter", not even to say whether he will comment on it. I know he is getting my e-mails though, because he replied to another on a different subject. Why does this not surprise me?

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12 Comments:

At 10 April, 2007 21:07, Blogger CHF said...

Can you imagine what a real scientific/engineering/demolition journal would do to the "scholars" work?

No wonder they avoid real peer-review like the plague.

 
At 10 April, 2007 21:40, Blogger CHF said...

Indeed the twoofers' idea of peer-review is a perfect example of what complete cowards these people are.

If they were truely confident in their evidence...

They would submit their evidence/theories for peer-review in the most credible journals they could fine.

But they don't. In fact they avoid doing so at all costs.

They would contact as many experts as they could.

But they don't.

In fact, the ONLY effort I've seen in this regard was by Swing Dangler, and only after I challenged him on it several times and found sources for him (even though he could have found the same info himself in 5 seconds if he'd wanted to).

They would stage massive protest rallies in the streets.

But they can't. They're too lazy and there's not enough of them anyway.

Frankly, it's stunning how little the twoofers do considering what they claim to believe.

In many countries you find massive protests, strikes and riots when the government raises taxes, cuts benefits, expands the work week, commits fraud.....

Yet here we find people claiming that the government has murdered 3,000 of its own people in cold blood in order to justify never ending war and a police state....and all they do is post crap on message boards, make stupid youtube videos and hand out some LC DVDs???

Are they trying to set a record for Lamest Revolution Ever?

 
At 11 April, 2007 07:13, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wheels of Steeeel 2007
("Grand"master Morgan
& Furious Jimbo Mix)
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At 11 April, 2007 08:14, Blogger Unknown said...

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At 11 April, 2007 08:19, Blogger Unknown said...

Chf, read this and tell me whether you think michael moore was right or not.

 
At 11 April, 2007 09:54, Blogger Unknown said...

I'm still waiting for one of the bloggers to post this and call them cowards and idiots. What's taking so long?

 
At 11 April, 2007 09:54, Blogger Unknown said...

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At 11 April, 2007 10:03, Blogger Triterope said...

and all they do is post crap on message boards, make stupid youtube videos and hand out some LC DVDs???

Monbiot: "The great virtue of a fake conspiracy is that it calls on you to do nothing."

 
At 11 April, 2007 16:04, Blogger CHF said...

Chf, read this and tell me whether you think michael moore was right or not.

Ummmm...about what?

Bush doing his best to downplay the Saudi connection to 9/11?

He is indeed right. That's the sort of real life conspiracies you twoofers would focus on if you weren't took busy making pathetic demolition claims.

I'm still waiting for one of the bloggers to post this and call them cowards and idiots.

If the families believe in demolitions and missiles hitting the Pentagon then yes - they're idiots.

If they think Bush is covering up info on why 9/11 happened and the role of Saudi Arabia then they're asking intelligent questions.

 
At 11 April, 2007 16:17, Blogger Civilized Worm said...

To be fair grief can make people very irrational.

 
At 11 April, 2007 18:43, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

let me guess...

gregs link is to some article or comment by the family member of a victim. Very Pdohesque. Appeal to emotion, rather than actually have an arguement...what are you five?

TAM:)

 
At 11 April, 2007 20:25, Blogger Alex said...

At least the family members have an excuse. Strong emotions can make people act irrationally. Do I think they're "cowards and idiots"? Not unnecessarily. I KNOW that they're wrong, and I know that they're acting irrationally. Other than that, I'm not going to judge them without first having a chance to talk to them.

 

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