Wednesday, May 14, 2008

The Nutters on the Gitmo Defendants

Alex Floum, on his blog and 9/11 Blogger, is getting all excited over one charge being dropped against a defendant at what he claims are show trials at Gitmo. Although this begs the question, if these trials are purely for show, why bother to drop the charges? Among other bizarre claims he says that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is actually dead, implying the one at Gitmo is someone else. Well you know, every time the news has reported such and such terrorist is dead, it is always true after all. Well, at least the media is 100% accurate whenever they want it to be.

In any case, possibly the most bizarre claim he makes is from a Paul Craig Roberts, whom he calls an "influential conservative". Yeah, in 1985 perhaps, now he is relegated to making osbcure comments on LewRockwell.com with Ron Paul's racist buddies. In this case, Roberts makes the following claim:


The six that the United States are bringing to "trial" include two child soldiers for the Taliban and a car pool driver who allegedly drove Osama bin Laden.

The Taliban did not attack the United States. The child soldiers were fighting in an Afghan civil war. The United States attacked the Taliban. How does that make Taliban soldiers terrorists who should be locked up and abused in Gitmo and brought before a kangaroo military tribunal? If a terrorist hires a driver or a taxi, does that make the driver a terrorist? What about the pilots of the airliners who brought the alleged 9-11 terrorists to the United States? Are they guilty, too?



Floum himself adds:

It turns out that they are not "Al Qaeda terrorists", but a bunch of kids, a car pool driver, and others who may have been involved in a civil war within their own country, but not a war against the United States.

So is this true, are these 6 largely made up of native Afghan teenagers? Well, this should be pretty easy to check, their names and pasts have been released, and the press has done many stories on them, such as this one in the New York Times.

So after about 10 minutes of research one can come up with this:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Kuwaiti, 43, educated in North Carolina, senior member of Al Qaeda, admitted to planning 9/11 attacks before being captured. Uncle of Ramzi Yousef, who carried out 1993 bombings.

Ramzi bin Al-Shibh: Yemeni, 36, roommate of Mohammed Atta, transfered money repeatedly to hijackers, attempted unsuccesfully to get US visa.

Mustafa al-Hawsawi: Saudi, age 39 Sent money to the 9/11 hijackers.

Walid bin 'Attash: Saudi, 29 Involved in 1998 embassy bombing in Nairobi. Captured in Pakistan in 2003.

Ali Abdulaziz Ali: Pakistani, 31, Nephew of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, attempted to join 9/11 hijackers but was denied visa.

Muhammad al-Kahtani: Saudi, thought to be muscle hijacker, but was denied entrance to US at Orlando Airport due to lack of return ticket.

So which of these guys is a poor innocent Afghan teenager who got unjustly captured by the Americans?

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