Thursday, January 28, 2010

Deadbeat Dylan?

I spent an interesting hour on the phone last night with Matthew Brown. Matt was the executive producer of Loose Change 9-11 An American Coup; his name appears in the opening credits in between Korey Rowe and Dylan Avery. Matt shared quite a bit of behind-the-scenes information with me which I will cover in several subsequent posts. But I thought I would start with a discussion of the Avery Foundation. As some of you may recall, this was supposed to be a charitable organization that Dylan claimed would end up donating more to the first responders on 9-11 than Greenglass did with United 93 and Oliver Stone did with World Trade Center.

Well, you know where you can take that pledge; to the bank of broken promises, where Dylan's already overdrawn. But it gets worse. Matt mentioned that he had located a few high net worth individuals who were prepared to donate around $230,000 to Dylan's charity to get it started. That's right, almost a quarter of a million dollars, which could have been helping first responders as we speak. But, as you can probably guess, Dylan and Korey didn't get the paperwork completed to set up the charity, and the proposed donors found other places to give their money.

Up until recently, the Avery Foundation's website had a little note saying that they were in the process of filing the necessary paperwork; hilariously, it doesn't say that any longer. Instead, there's this:


Yep, Dylan and Korey are refusing to pay their executive producer the money he's owed from the sales of the DVDs. Incidentally, Matt mentioned that LC911AC has sold about 15,000 copies, about half of those to the Netflix DVD rental company.

I will have much more information to share over the next few days, but this was too delicious not to post on immediately.

Update: Microcinema Interational writes in the comments:

Please note that neither Microcinema nor writer-director Dylan Avery or producer Korey Rowe are associated in any way to www.theaveryfoundation.org. If you would like to visit the official website for The Avery Foundation, go to: www.theaveryfoundation.com.

Should you be interested in speaking directly to the President of The Avery Foundation, please write to: info@microcinema.com, Attention - Patrick Kwiatkowski.


But of course, if you go to www.theaveryfoundation.com, it redirects to the same page as www.theaveryfoundation.org.

Update II: Well, they fixed that. Of course there going to have some work to do to fix Google, which will show the Avery Foundation here for awhile.

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76 Comments:

At 28 January, 2010 06:12, Blogger Billman said...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH HA HA HA HA HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 
At 28 January, 2010 07:16, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Pat, thinking as a lawyer, did you get the feeling that these guys documented the transaction (especially as to compensation for the producer) or does it seem like they blew through that just like they've blown through all other "formalities"?

 
At 28 January, 2010 08:18, Blogger Pat said...

Patrick, I am sure all this stuff was spelled out in contracts.

 
At 28 January, 2010 10:39, Anonymous Bikerman said...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAH HA HA HA HA HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

+10 HA HA HA ....pointing and laughing at the twoofer LOOOOOOOOOSERS!!!!

"we're just asking questions" "we do so much for the first responders" It's a wonder those Jack-asses can tie their effing shoes.

 
At 28 January, 2010 10:49, Blogger Walter said...

According to the webpage, Avery and Rowe have an outstanding debt "in which they are refusing to pay" (sic).

It this standard English usage or truther usage?

--

 
At 28 January, 2010 10:52, Anonymous Bikerman said...

HA HA HA HA HA. Dylan's such a tool!!!!

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=39311290&blogId=509718744

 
At 28 January, 2010 11:33, Anonymous Microcinema International said...

Hello Pat,

Please note that neither Microcinema nor writer-director Dylan Avery or producer Korey Rowe are associated in any way to www.theaveryfoundation.org. If you would like to visit the official website for The Avery Foundation, go to: www.theaveryfoundation.com.

Should you be interested in speaking directly to the President of The Avery Foundation, please write to: info@microcinema.com, Attention - Patrick Kwiatkowski.

Thank you,

Microcinema International

 
At 28 January, 2010 11:41, Anonymous Greg said...

That sounds like a cop out Microcinema. theaveryfoundation.org is on your website and dvd.

 
At 28 January, 2010 12:10, Anonymous Mac the Knife said...

So I went to www.theaveryfoundation.com, and it links right back to www.theaveryfoundation.org.

So, what gives, Patrick Kwiatkowski?

 
At 28 January, 2010 12:16, Anonymous Anthony Hintsent said...

Dover Dylan and KoRo screw someone over. What else is new?

 
At 28 January, 2010 12:28, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like a conspiracy involving Microcinema Intl. and elements within the US government to sabotage the 9-11 truth movement!!!
...hahaha way to screw over your executive producer!

 
At 28 January, 2010 12:44, Anonymous Bikerman said...

(1) As already pointed out, www.theaveryfoundation.com points to the same dead link www.theaveryfoundation.org telling the world that Dylan "Dumbass" Avery doesn't pay his bills.

(2) A non-profit foundation should not have a "Dot com" address. That's what "dot org" is reserved for.

 
At 28 January, 2010 12:54, Anonymous Hendrix said...

Doesn't dylan owe jones and Bermas money?

 
At 28 January, 2010 13:19, Blogger Pat said...

Matt certainly indicated that things are quite frosty between Alex and Dylan and Jason and Dylan; I suspect that Jason is indeed owed money. I note that Alex still markets The Final Cut on Infowars, however.

 
At 28 January, 2010 13:47, Anonymous Kim said...

I am an attorney and if needed my firm will be happy to represent anyone against these frauds. I know this would not be the end of the Loose Change fiasco. Dylan and Korey ought to be ashamed of themselves.

 
At 28 January, 2010 13:57, Anonymous ConsDemo said...

While its always entertaining to see these morons quarrel among themselves, its a shame any copies, much less 15,000, of that piece of garbage were purchased. If I had a subscription to Netflix, I'd cancel it.

 
At 28 January, 2010 14:02, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

"I am an attorney and if needed my firm will be happy to represent anyone against these frauds. I know this would not be the end of the Loose Change fiasco. Dylan and Korey ought to be ashamed of themselves."

Who would you represent? They're all frauds.

I suspect this is a joke, as your name directs to Kaye Scholer. Although, oddly, I remember Kaye Scholer did represent the weirdest part I ever met in a serious transaction.

 
At 28 January, 2010 14:17, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

party

 
At 28 January, 2010 16:03, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

The Debunker Cult carrying the baton for the A.J.Weberman School of Garbology."Truthers",guard your dirty underwear!!

 
At 28 January, 2010 16:16, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"The Debunker Cult"

Lather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

And you to can swirl down the drain of Twoooofer™ insanity.

 
At 28 January, 2010 16:39, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

PornBoy's pretty much a One-Note Johnny crossed with a deranged Far-Right Psychosis,hey fellas? Are you with me fellas,let me hear you say:"Yeeeaah".Wait,let me guess:it's more Weak Brew from you know who?!

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:08, Anonymous Bitchgut said...

You dumbunkers with your fact less dirt dumb ideas, can't understand simple physics. All can't put sentences together. You post false information. Got physics? can't even agree on how many walls of 7 fell on camera, or how they didn't resist. You post failed ideas.

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:19, Anonymous Guanoroo,Wan&Weak said...

All the so-called debunkers (read: liars) have left is a farrago of prevarications, carny half-witticisms, and an ineducable sense of the laws of motion.

You're wearing our fists to a frazzle on the bludgeoned face of your argument, Patrick Curley, and you don't realize you hit the canvas years ago. Now about that gravitational acceleration... Where's Lyin' Lackey?

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:21, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Wow, this really hit them hard, didn't it? One of their cult leaders once again turned out to be a fraud, and now they're steaming mad!!!!!

BBWWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:21, Anonymous murrainster said...

The column failed over 8 floors. That means the building can sit down as quickly as it wants to, just like in the comic books. Everything else is irrelevant, except my fixation on avoiding certain unmentionable, inescapable, gravitational facts. Oops, I'm an idiot!

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:32, Blogger Triterope said...

A non-profit foundation should not have a "Dot com" address. That's what "dot org" is reserved for.

Not true. Anyone can have a .org registration. There is no requirement that you be an organization, much less a non-profit. And many non-profits own .com domains, if only for redirection purposes. For example, nra.com redirects to nra.org.

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:45, Anonymous Lyin Wacky said...

I think you should read my hilarious whitepaper, in which I spend 300 pages NOT explaining how a 47-story building can fall at gravitational acceleration for 105 feet, fire or not. After my riveting prose, you won't believe your lyin' eyes anymore. It sure worked on Wan Weak, ShatBricks Girlie, and JamesBitch, and they could only make it through the first paragraph, bitches!

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:46, Anonymous Guanoroo said...

Wacky, get back here and rub my feet.

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:47, Anonymous Shat Hurly said...

Can I join? I just bought a new mask and cape...

 
At 28 January, 2010 17:52, Blogger Triterope said...

Dylan and Korey are refusing to pay their executive producer the money he's owed from the sales of the DVDs.

You know what this is? It's the world's tiniest violin playing playing for the executive producer of Loose Change: An American Coup.

If Microcinema had done the tiniest amount of due diligence before they agreed to this deal, they would have learned that Dylan Avery had already failed to deliver on two sets of promises: one, to Alex Jones as a prior financier, and two, that deals were in place to show the Final Cut on X thousand numbers of screens in Y number of countries. Not to mention smaller announced deals that failed to materialize, like the Mark Cuban non-negotiations, and the Virgin Airlines "oh well, we got paid anyway" thing. And failing even that, they could have learned that the damn movie had been released four or five times already, including a "final cut," to ever-decreasing audiences.

Earth to Microcinema International: Dylan Avery is a con man. You got conned. Try to learn from it.

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:04, Anonymous Malarkey Knobsquirts said...

The staggering amount of howling ignorance pervading this board is interfering with the signal-to-noise ratio, and I have to flee like a coward from it again.

I like to ask people what I got wrong in my work, as a ploy to mask the fact that my thinking is uncritical and credulous as a babe's, especially for a vaunted "skeptic". When will they see through my charade? Have they already? Is gravitational acceleration a straight-jacket for me? I can appeal to your emotion and make it sound convincing, but don't be fooled. Am I telling the whole truth, or just WTCLies? Can you guess who I am?

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:09, Anonymous JamesBDSM said...

Hey, Malarkey, who invited you here? I was already half out of my uniform...

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:11, Anonymous ToyInPatsVagina said...

Don't forget me. I just threw my kids over the roof so I could join you guys. Where's the debunking at tonight? Should we go cow-tipping instead? Maybe cow-raping?

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:23, Anonymous TroySucks or whatever said...

Come on dumbunkers, pay attention to me! What am I gonna do with myself if you don't respond to my comments?

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:23, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Triterope, it won't surprise me if Dylan Avery ends with serious legal issues some time soon. I think he's made too many promises out there in respect of giving money to first responders. And I'm not sure how he finances his lifestyle. It wouldn't surprise me if it is soon the case that his world starts crashing around him like Jerry Lundegaard's world. Dylan didn't kill a guy or anything, but he seems like a cheat, and people are starting to call him on it.

 
At 28 January, 2010 18:26, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Sorry for my bad grammar but I'm exhausted!

 
At 28 January, 2010 19:47, Anonymous New Yorker said...

I think you should read my hilarious whitepaper, in which I spend 300 pages NOT explaining how a 47-story building can fall at gravitational acceleration for 105 feet, fire or not.

It's already been explained.

 
At 28 January, 2010 20:41, Blogger Billman said...

Please note that neither Microcinema nor writer-director Dylan Avery or producer Korey Rowe are associated in any way to www.theaveryfoundation.org.

I'm confused... then is the Avery Foundation NOT the organization Dylan Avery set up to aid the first responders?

 
At 28 January, 2010 21:15, Anonymous AlanP said...

How are they NOT associated with the .org page, when the CONTACT email to reach them ends in the .org website?

 
At 28 January, 2010 21:39, Anonymous Roid Rage said...

Like a cannon ball squishing a mosquito. This blog earns its right to exist, I guess.

Tell us more, Pat. Give us some dirt.

 
At 28 January, 2010 23:40, Blogger Pat said...

Dylan's lifestyle consists mostly of sleeping on somebody else's couch.

 
At 29 January, 2010 00:37, Blogger Shane R said...

Off Topic, I apologize:

Pat, it's me Shane. Here's the ATS link to AJ making a fool of himself if you're still interested:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread538306/pg1

SR

 
At 29 January, 2010 03:45, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ConsDemo: "While its always entertaining to see these morons quarrel among themselves, its a shame any copies, much less 15,000, of that piece of garbage were purchased. If I had a subscription to Netflix, I'd cancel it."

Keep in mind that by virtue of having co-produced an edition of LC, Matt Brown is also a lying sack of shit. There's no more reason to believe his accounting of the number of copies sold than there is Dylan's.

 
At 29 January, 2010 06:26, Blogger Billman said...

While its always entertaining to see these morons quarrel among themselves, its a shame any copies, much less 15,000, of that piece of garbage were purchased. If I had a subscription to Netflix, I'd cancel it.

Meh.. it's not on instant play or anything. And my kid would be sad if he couldn't get his daily fix of Elmo off of Netflix.

Best to just ignore it.

Though... 9/11 Press for Truth IS on instant play.

 
At 29 January, 2010 07:15, Anonymous Wan n eak said...

"It's already been explained." -(Nothing New)

Not only can't you "debunker" liar fantasists point to any explanation of the acceleration, you can't even attempt to form a coherent one of your own. Your evidence just keeps NOT coming in. You've shown your ineptitude to all of us yet again, New Yorker.

 
At 29 January, 2010 07:35, Anonymous New Yorker said...

Not only can't you "debunker" liar fantasists point to any explanation of the acceleration, you can't even attempt to form a coherent one of your own. Your evidence just keeps NOT coming in. You've shown your ineptitude to all of us yet again, New Yorker.

What can I say? Nothing has changed in the last 8+ years, and you're too stupid to understand the basics of physics, so what point is there to trying to explain anything to you?

It's been explained, and nobody cares if you keep throwing temper tantrums here. Why not try bringing your "evidence" into court?

 
At 29 January, 2010 08:09, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Not only can't you "debunker" liar fantasists point to any explanation of the acceleration...."

Nobody cares, Krazee.

 
At 29 January, 2010 08:39, Anonymous Bitchgut said...

All you post is dirt dumb fact less lies, New Yorker. Got physics? 8 1/2 years, and you still post false hearsay lies and failed ideas. "already explained"? where? you're a coward, and cowards don't have facts. you don't know 911 and your a fail.

 
At 29 January, 2010 08:42, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"you don't know 911 and your a fail."

I find your viewpoint interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

 
At 29 January, 2010 08:43, Anonymous malarky76 said...

I like starting stupid new threads and pretend to be cute by using emoticons. I'm mentally ill, but I also like to mock other people as if they're ill too, so I win. I really like saying the word 'jew' too, even if it's not relevant to the context. I live for inane non sequiturs, and don't post anything of substance. Who am I?

 
At 29 January, 2010 08:46, Anonymous Cooper Harris said...

"you're a coward, and cowards don't have facts. you don't know 911 and your a fail."

says the turd to this little blog instead of taking his earth shaking evidence to Court.

Why is that coward?

 
At 29 January, 2010 09:15, Anonymous John E. Smoke said...

Got physics?

Yeah, I do. A whole bag-full. Chemistry too. Say, do you wanna make a bomb? Hows about some Super-Nano-Thermite (or whatever it's called this week). Maybe later we can try to cast some magic.

A Truther calling someone a 'fail'. That's like - what? - Rosie O'Donnell calling somebody fat, right? Shit, I've seen video of catastrophic jet-engine failures that didn't fail as bad as the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement.

 
At 29 January, 2010 10:04, Anonymous Guanoroo said...

Blowing Smoke, and Pooper Hairs: Your 'debunking' is nothing but a farrago of lies and fantasies, and you've formed no cohesive narrative for the acceleration of WTC 7, regardless of how much physics you've 'got'. Like Shyte and New Dorker, you use many words to say nothing, and you can't reconcile NIST's admission of Free-fall with Sunder's own statement that it's not possible. Carry on, infants.

 
At 29 January, 2010 10:19, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"you've formed no cohesive narrative for the acceleration of WTC 7"

Nobody cares, Krazee.

 
At 29 January, 2010 11:58, Anonymous Cooper Harris said...

"and you've formed no cohesive narrative for the acceleration of WTC 7"

Yep! Me and a million plus of the best engineers on earth...

Although you are the king of the potty name changing - congrats!

 
At 29 January, 2010 14:04, Anonymous New Yorker said...

All you post is dirt dumb fact less lies, New Yorker. Got physics? 8 1/2 years, and you still post false hearsay lies and failed ideas. "already explained"? where? you're a coward, and cowards don't have facts. you don't know 911 and your a fail.

False.

Blowing Smoke, and Pooper Hairs: Your 'debunking' is nothing but a farrago of lies and fantasies, and you've formed no cohesive narrative for the acceleration of WTC 7, regardless of how much physics you've 'got'. Like Shyte and New Dorker, you use many words to say nothing, and you can't reconcile NIST's admission of Free-fall with Sunder's own statement that it's not possible. Carry on, infants.

False. It's already been explained.

 
At 29 January, 2010 15:02, Blogger Triterope said...

Triterope, it won't surprise me if Dylan Avery ends with serious legal issues some time soon.

Well, I don't know about "soon." The wheels of financial justice grind slowly. Within the next five years, maybe. But I agree that Mr. Avery's continual soliciting of donations to charities he can't be bothered to do the paperwork for is bound to attract some attention. And if his disinterest in paperwork extends to his personal tax returns of the glory years of Loose Change, he can expect to hear from the IRS some day.

 
At 30 January, 2010 12:43, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

More from Extremely Trite and Inordinately Dopey:"The wheels of financial justice grind slowly".Jeepers,can you get any more pretentious than this twit from Blowhardsville.ca? The Debunker Cult:"Right there sniffing your jock,Truthers"!!!

 
At 30 January, 2010 15:21, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"The Debunker Cult"

Lather.

Rinse.

Repeat.

 
At 30 January, 2010 17:20, Blogger Triterope said...

this twit from Blowhardsville.ca

Just curious... where did you get the idea I'm Canadian?

 
At 31 January, 2010 05:23, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'you're a coward, and cowards don't have facts.'

Says the Walt who tried to pose as an Iraq veteran, and who fucked up by claiming he did a three-year long tour.

 
At 31 January, 2010 13:44, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

I stand corrected on your provenance,Triteworm,but what on Earth is the Sad Sack Soldier fom White Boy Central talking about? That weren't me jackoff.I mean,ou are proving to be dumber than White Trash Troy,and that ain't easy!

 
At 01 February, 2010 12:45, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

but what on Earth is the Sad Sack 'Soldier fom White Boy Central talking about? That weren't me jackoff'

Look Walt. What you've got to realise is that even when you post under sock-puppets (like 'A Real Veteran') your retarded rants follow a similar style, and it is pretty fucking obvious that they all come from one mentally deranged truther - and that's you.

Perhaps - when you posed as 'A Real Veteran' - you might have got away with it if you learnt how to use a spacebar, and if you didn't repeat the same third-grade insults that you used in other posts.

You decided a couple of months back that you were going to try to put JamesB in his place by posing as a soldier who'd served in Iraq, and you tried to pin the 'weekend warrior' tag on him. You were enough of a wanker to claim to have done something you lack the balls to do (namely, serve in the military and go to war), and stupid enough not even to bother checking some basic facts, such as how long the average GI's tour lasts. You've outed yourself as a fantasist and a failure, and as long as you keep posting comments here, you're going to keep being reminded of it. So dry your eyes out princess. You'll always be a Walt until the day you drink the Drano (which hopefully won't be too long).

 
At 01 February, 2010 13:05, Blogger Triterope said...

I stand corrected on your provenance,Triteworm

Did I say I wasn't Canadian?

 
At 01 February, 2010 15:55, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Wow,Trite'n Dopey is real cute! That's about your level DogBoy. And Sackderbeck,you really must gain control of your senses.This is becoming well nigh embarrassing.Truly,bro,I like kicking your damn butt all over the gym but really,that weren't me.But then,you're the goofball who insisted that the dust samples from lower NYC provided by private citizens and studied at length were fabricated,so what you gonna do?

 
At 01 February, 2010 18:48, Blogger Triterope said...

So am I Canadian or not?

 
At 02 February, 2010 05:20, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

I don't know, but Arseholie's attempts to convince everyone that he didn't masquerade as 'A Real Veteran' are as convincing as all his other efforts at sockpuppetry. And his comments about 'kicking your damn butt all over the gym' suggest that the boy was repeatedly bullied at school, and is trying to take out his frustrations by big-timing it online.

Just like all Walts, he can't get over the fact that he's a loser.

 
At 02 February, 2010 11:32, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Poor,poor,pitiful Iron Butt from Blighty,still boning up on his basic ISI,CIA,Saudi background.And there's ALWAYS Trite 'n Dopey:"Have computer,will comment".

 
At 02 February, 2010 12:24, Blogger Triterope said...

Answer the question.

 
At 02 February, 2010 15:00, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Poor Walt. All he wanted was for someone - anyone - to take him seriously. Maybe the next time he tries a stunt like that he'll pose as a first-responder. What a fucking loser.

 
At 02 February, 2010 16:53, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

After tearing you 17 new assholes I may have created a monster.My favorite cement headed move by you was when you linked us the NIST report on #7,which disproved your entire point.What a sap.I'd be a miserable fantasist too if I was stuck on that rotten rock.New York City:300 sunny days a year!!!

 
At 02 February, 2010 17:21, Blogger Triterope said...

I'm taking him seriously. I seriously want to know if he's figured out my nationality yet.

 
At 03 February, 2010 04:09, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'After tearing you 17 new assholes I may have created a monster.My favorite cement headed move by you was when you linked us the NIST report on #7,which disproved your entire point.What a sap.I'd be a miserable fantasist too if I was stuck on that rotten rock.New York City:300 sunny days a year!!!'

Oh, I forgot, Walt. You spent three years living in the UK. Was that before or after your 36 month tour of Iraq?

 
At 03 February, 2010 10:07, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Did live in UK for 3 years,was never in the Army and never said I was.Good luck adjusting your drinking schedule,keep your chin up!!

 
At 03 February, 2010 16:15, Blogger Triterope said...

Well, it's nice that you know what country you live in. What country do I live in?

 
At 06 February, 2010 13:18, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Haples,feckless,witless and yes,nuts,the Debunker Cult is now relegated to the pipsqueak corner where Soldier Boyo Bollocks and the lunatic Dopey 'n Trite hold court.Sad development for a group that swears they have redeemed the Republic.Anything on Shaffer? Yet? This year?

 

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