Wednesday, March 03, 2010

"Patriot" Groups on the Rise, Says SPLC

As you probably know, this is the flag that Alex Jones and his ilk operate under.

Antigovernment "Patriot" groups - militias and other extremist organizations that see the federal government as their enemy - came roaring back to life over the past year after more than a decade out of the limelight.

The SPLC documented a 244 percent increase in the number of active Patriot groups in 2009. Their numbers grew from 149 groups in 2008 to 512 groups in 2009, an astonishing addition of 363 new groups in a single year. Militias - the paramilitary arm of the Patriot movement - were a major part of the increase, growing from 42 militias in 2008 to 127 in 2009.


The SPLC takes pains to note that it is not talking about the "Tea Party" crowd, while noting that those groups may be a fertile recruiting ground for the Patriots:

The Patriot movement has made significant inroads into the conservative political scene, according to the new report. "The ‘tea parties' and similar groups that have sprung up in recent months cannot fairly be considered extremist groups, but they are shot through with rich veins of radical ideas, conspiracy theories and racism," the report says.


Surprisingly, perhaps, I found a balanced commentary at the Huffington Post:

There is, however, an important caveat to add to the findings. For all of the unglamorous work it does documenting the rise of extremism, the SPLC has been accused of occasionally making mountains out of molehills. Some of the groups it classifies as threats can be better described as having a threatening message but being impotent in reality.

In March 2007, Ken Silverstein of Harpers Magazine, pointed to the massive financial resources the group had on hand (per its tax filings) and concluded that: "What [SPLC] does best... is to raise obscene amounts of money by hyping fears about the power of those groups; hence the SPLC has become the nation's richest "civil rights" organization."


I'm pretty much in the middle on this one; the Patriot groups are crazy, as the Huffpost notes rather succinctly:

And, most remarkably of all, so-called "Patriot" groups -- militias and other organizations that see the federal government as part of a plot to impose "one-world government" on liberty-loving Americans -- came roaring back after years out of the limelight."


I don't think they're dangerous per se; the problem is that lone wackos who agree with their claims may do crazy things in reaction.

116 Comments:

At 03 March, 2010 12:57, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

ZOMG PATRIOTS!!

RUN AND HIDE!!!

THEY LIKE "FREEDOM"!!

WE GOTTA KILL THEM/ARREST THEM/TORTURE THEM NOW BEFORE THEY ACT!

Pat! Stop them! Step into the phone booth, and become "SuperPat". You can do it. Every loser is a potential superhero. You are no exception.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:26, Anonymous Strawman said...

The problem isn't that they are patriots. Or that they like freedom. That's great. The problem is this: they are nuts.

 
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At 03 March, 2010 13:33, Blogger Billman said...

Glenn Maxey said...
THEY LIKE "FREEDOM"!!


Freedom for themselves, but god forbid someone disagree with your theories becuase of actual facts and reason... they deserve the chair!

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:42, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'I don't think they're dangerous per se; the problem is that lone wackos who agree with their claims may do crazy things in reaction.'

Oklahoma 1995 as a case in point.

Incidentally, Glenn Maxey is still a wanker.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:42, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Freedom for themselves, but god forbid someone disagree with your theories becuase of actual facts and reason... they deserve the chair!

When it comes to giving people the chair, including jailed retards, I have nothing on George Walker Bush. Nothing.

His electricity bills as Governor were through the fucking the roof. The state of Texas stenched of charred (probably often innocent) jailbird flesh.

That, along with 9/11, is the legacy of your hero, the mass murdering psychopath. Now fuck off.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:45, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

The SPLC is a nutzoid leftist group, so take anything they say with a block of salt.

According to them EVERY hate group is "right wing".

So, for example, if you oppose illegal immigration, you are an "anti-immigration extremists."

But curiosly, they never ever mention, for example, Muslim hate groups.

Strange, that.

From Reason Magazine, a capsule description of their MO:

"The group delights in finding tenuous ties between the tendencies it tracks, then describing its discoveries in as ominous a tone as possible."

http://reason.com/blog/2010/03/03/fearmongering-at-the-splc

And then dunning paniced liberals for yet more funds.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:48, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"When it comes to giving people the chair, including jailed retards, I have nothing on George Walker Bush. Nothing.

His electricity bills as Governor were through the fucking the roof. The state of Texas stenched of charred (probably often innocent) jailbird flesh."

What, President, or Governor, Bush had Stalin like powers to order executions? When did this happen, cocksucker?

Can you actually, you know, PROVE, any scum executed in Texas was "innocent"?

Thought not, cocksucker.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:49, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned Stalin.

Gleen Maxipad now has a woody.

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:53, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LL
The ADL points out the Muslim nuts. I'm glad someone has the balls to.

Huffington Post is the worst site ever. They're just looking for a reason to whine about how a Black president is causing a rise in extremism. Never mind that the same people were shouting the same slogans about socialism during the 90's. Never mind the OKC bombing. It's 'cus he Black!
When they're not denouncing thought-criminals they're promoting homeopathy, natural "medicine" and anti-vaccine lies which have hurt far more people than any truth group ever could.

With that said Huffington Post is usually the 3rd or 4th site I read every day for news*, she runs a good website what can I say!

*Gossip

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:55, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Gleen Maxipad now has a woody.

What makes me really horny is the knowledge is that your son is going to die for my right to make you look like an ass on the internet!

Send some more retards to the front! High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 13:57, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

NoIdentity, I really liked your recent comment about how you can manipulate people with flattery.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:01, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's some Israeli saying. Apparently "money sex and flattery" all start with K in Hebrew so it sounds cooler.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:01, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Gleen Maxipad now has a woody.

What makes me really horny is the knowledge is that your son is going to die for my right to make you look like an ass on the internet!"

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, coward.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:03, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, coward.

But I'll lick his brains from his helmet!

LOL

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:04, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, coward.

But I'll lick his brains from his helmet!

LOL

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:04, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

It's some Israeli saying. Apparently "money sex and flattery" all start with K in Hebrew so it sounds cooler.

Heh heh. The Hebrew KKK.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:07, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, coward.

But I'll lick his brains from his helmet!

LOL"

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, scum.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although I imagine blackmail is just as effective. Especially the sexual kind used against otherwise pious Muslims.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:13, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

You're not good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots, scum.

He's going to suck Iraqi resistance cock for his life! Then they're going to kill his sorry ass anyway and he'll get buried as a fag! Watch me do the jig at his funeral. I'll be throwing popcorn at his coffin.

High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:16, Anonymous Henry Lee Lucas said...

"When it comes to giving people the chair, including jailed retards, I have nothing on George Walker Bush. Nothing."

YOU TELL THEM GLENN!!!!!!!

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:21, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Although I imagine blackmail is just as effective. Especially the sexual kind used against otherwise pious Muslims.

Or taped lesbian sex ala Schakowski.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:22, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Just as a reminder, Glenn Maxey (AKA Roid Rage) said that the ADL were a 'bunch of kikes who needed the gas chamber', and that all Muslims were evil bigots bend upon bloodshed and violence.

This a 'truther'. He's fucked-up, ignorant, moronic, obnoxious, inbred bigot who belongs in a zoo. I'd be interested to see if any of the other 'truther' visitors to SLC excuse him, or disavow him.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:24, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'He's going to suck Iraqi resistance cock for his life! Then they're going to kill his sorry ass anyway and he'll get buried as a fag! Watch me do the jig at his funeral. I'll be throwing popcorn at his coffin'

If you took your head out of your arse, Glenn, you might have realised that your 'resistance' has lost. Surge? Sahwah? Check those words up, shit-eater.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:25, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"sackcloth and ashes said...
Just as a reminder, Glenn Maxey (AKA Roid Rage) said that the ADL were a 'bunch of kikes who needed the gas chamber', and that all Muslims were evil bigots bend upon bloodshed and violence.

This a 'truther'. He's fucked-up, ignorant, moronic, obnoxious, inbred bigot who belongs in a zoo. I'd be interested to see if any of the other 'truther' visitors to SLC excuse him, or disavow him."

Bears repeating.

And remember, raging hemorrhoid isn't good enough to lick the sand from my son's combat boots.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:26, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Just as a reminder, Glenn Maxey (AKA Roid Rage) said that the ADL were a 'bunch of kikes who needed the gas chamber', and that all Muslims were evil bigots bend upon bloodshed and violence.

Whatever, you fucking kike. Cracker. Spic. Towelhead.

I thought the ADL comment was hilarious, especially since their existence is justified by my comment.

But all that is above your head. As expected.

Again, I do not care, cracker.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:38, Anonymous Moonbat Conspiraloon said...

His electricity bills as Governor were through the fucking the roof. The state of Texas stenched of charred (probably often innocent) jailbird flesh.

Congratulations, Maxey trooftard! This post wins you the Richard Gage "Troofer Pride in Getting Nothing Right" award. Your prize --a lethal injection.

High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:46, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

If you took your head out of your arse, Glenn, you might have realised that your 'resistance' has lost. Surge? Sahwah? Check those words up, shit-eater.

My resistance? No. Their country, their resistance.

Anyways, extra extra:

Iraq suicide bomber targets hospital in triple attack

Say Lazarus, is your son going to be featured soon on this supercool list?

I just can't wait! How about you, ribbon gibbon?

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:46, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ADL's existence is justified by malevolent antisemitic groups many of whom call themselves "patriot groups" or "the patriot movement." Individuals snap and decide to go shoot up a Synagogue or a Jewish daycare center.
You're just a harmless voice on the internet Roid Rage.

And you'll always be Roid Rage to me!
<3

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:49, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Say Lazarus, is your son going to be featured soon on this supercool list?

I just can't wait! How about you, ribbon gibbon?"

My son is about a million times better a person than you could ever hope to be, raging hemorrhoid.

Do you pull the wings off of flies for your amusement?

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:49, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Congratulations, Maxey trooftard! This post wins you the Richard Gage "Troofer Pride in Getting Nothing Right" award. Your prize --a lethal injection.

High five!


Somebody high fived me back!!!

WOOHOO!!!

High five right back at ya, moonbat conspiraloon! =)))

(I think I have a crush on you)

How about a vigil at Lazarus Long's door? We'll pray for his son's death, so we can be free. After all our soldiers are dying abroad for our freedoms.

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:51, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

You never answered th3e question, cocksucker.

When did President Bush ever execute a prisoner in Texas?

[this should be good]

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:55, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

When did President Bush ever execute a prisoner in Texas, cocksucker?

 
At 03 March, 2010 14:59, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

My son is about a million times better a person than you could ever hope to be, raging hemorrhoid.

IS about a million times better? You mean WAS. It is important to anticipate speaking about your son in the past tense from now on, Lazarus!

Do you pull the wings off of flies for your amusement?

Usually I torture the fuck out of flies until they confess to be 9/11 masterminds. It takes a while, but they all crack eventually. You'll be amazed how quickly flies start talking when using techniques such as waterboarding, walling, sleep deprivation, and extremely loud music in combination with a stroboscope. Then I offer this "evidence" to Zelikow, who subsequently studiously and laboriously references it in his clownesque bedtime story.

BTW, torturing flies has the added benefit of keeping this country safe from future malaria attacks. Documented fact. A "law enforcement" approach to flies betrays a 9/10 mentality, and is inviting this country to be pricked again.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:00, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did any of them confess to witchcraft?

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:04, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Just off the phone with my son the Marine.

He had to do his yearly requalification on the rifle range this week.

He qualified with an "expert" rating.

I can't tell you how proud I am of my son.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:05, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

"During his tenure, Bush signed the execution warrants for more death row inmates than any other Governor in the history of Texas, averaging a death every nine days.[6] The only death penalty case among the 153 that came across George W. Bush's desk in his tenure as Texas Governor in which Governor Bush intervened and commuted the death sentence was that of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas."

George W Bush as governor of Texas.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:06, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"NoIdentity said...
Did any of them confess to witchcraft?"

No, he's practicing for when he can apply as an NKVD torturer.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:07, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
"During his tenure, Bush signed the execution warrants for more death row inmates than any other Governor in the history of Texas, averaging a death every nine days."

Wow, that's great.

"The only death penalty case among the 153 that came across George W. Bush's desk in his tenure as Texas Governor in which Governor Bush intervened and commuted the death sentence was that of serial killer Henry Lee Lucas."

Better and better.

But how many did he personally execute?

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:13, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

THE 2000 CAMPAIGN: THE TEXAS GOVERNOR; Bush Delays an Execution For the 1st Time in 5 Years (New York Times)

Excerpt:
Because Mr. Bush is now the presumptive Republican nominee for president, his actions as governor are under more intense scrutiny -- none more so than his vigorous enforcement of the death penalty. Texas leads the nation in executions.

Although his probable Democratic opponent, Vice President Al Gore, also supports capital punishment, some of Mr. Gore's allies would like to use the issue to cast doubt on Mr. Bush's efforts to portray himself as a ''compassionate conservative.''

In addition, Mr. Bush's unusual action in the case of Mr. McGinn underscored the way in which modern DNA testing and technology have begun to affect the debate over capital punishment by casting doubt on convictions once considered just.

In recent months, even some staunch conservatives have begun to acknowledge qualms about capital punishment, in light of a number of death sentences that have been overturned recently after DNA testing exonerated the inmates.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:14, Anonymous Patrick from Cincinnati said...

Pat/James,

I'm putting my vote in for deleting more of the crazy when you get a chance. I'd like to contribute, but I think whatever I write will get drowned out by the crazy.

And maybe the perp(s) will lose interest after repeated deletion.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:21, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"I'm putting my vote in for deleting more of the crazy when you get a chance. I'd like to contribute, but I think whatever I write will get drowned out by the crazy.

And maybe the perp(s) will lose interest after repeated deletion."

Especially raging hemorhoids hate speech.

He's a despicable scumbag, and I don't know why you allow him to continue to post here.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:22, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Just off the phone with my son the Marine.

He had to do his yearly requalification on the rifle range this week.

He qualified with an "expert" rating.

I can't tell you how proud I am of my son.


Ah! The proud son of legally murdering imperialist cannon fodder.

When are they sending him out? They should hurry the fuck up already because the more retards die for my freedom, the better.

Your son has a holy obligation to die for the freedom of reactionary leftists and other anti-American comrades. His grotesque, inevitable death would make me very proud too. Of Charles Darwin! =)

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:26, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

I'm putting my vote in for deleting more of the crazy when you get a chance. I'd like to contribute, but I think whatever I write will get drowned out by the crazy.

And maybe the perp(s) will lose interest after repeated deletion.



(...)

Especially raging hemorhoids hate speech.

He's a despicable scumbag, and I don't know why you allow him to continue to post here.


YES!! YES!! Censorship!! Ha ha ha. The most flattering comments yet. Watch as the SLC maggots fret, fuss, flutter and squirm in despair.

(You don't know how blogger works, do you, morontards)

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:26, Blogger Unknown said...

Lets see

1) Watch Fox News - Check

2) NRA Supporter - Check

3) Own guns, including evil semi auto assualt rifle - Check

WOW - am whacko Patriot Militia Man

Now lets go hang some politicians from the lamposts....

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:31, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Lets see

1) Watch Fox News - Check

2) NRA Supporter - Check

3) Own guns, including evil semi auto assualt rifle - Check

WOW - am whacko Patriot Militia Man

Now lets go hang some politicians from the lamposts....


Lazarus Long! From A to Z!

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:35, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"YES!! YES!! Censorship!! Ha ha ha."

Not on a privately owned blog it's not, you fucking ignorant asshole.

"Watch as the SLC maggots fret, fuss, flutter and squirm in despair."

Pat?

James?

Do YOU enjoy being called a maggot?

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:37, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"In recent months, even some staunch conservatives have begun to acknowledge qualms about capital punishment, in light of a number of death sentences that have been overturned recently after DNA testing exonerated the inmates."

And that would be.....how many, cocksucker?

Kind of a vauge statement, there, scumbag.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:41, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn the compulsive liar scribbles, "...YES!! YES!! Censorship!! Ha ha ha."

No Glenn, just taking the neo-Nazi, Holocaust Denier and anti-Semite out to the trash can, where you belong.

Furthermore--you jackass--censorship only applies to the government (for example, the government is forbidden from exercising control over the content of The New York Times). For your information, idiot, blogger.com is private property; thus, the blog administrators may ban anyone they like, including you, Herr Streicher.

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:44, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Pat?

James?

Do YOU enjoy being called a maggot?


Beg for help from your heroes, Lazarus Loon!

Beg! Get on the floor, crawl like the maggot you are and beg for them to come and save you!

BTW, LL, We are considering setting up a large fireworks display when your son finally bites the bullet. What do you think is more fun: a catherine wheel or a bonfire? We would like your input.

High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:46, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

James, Pat, do you really want this lunatic posting on your blog?

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:54, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Censorship: The practice of suppressing a text or part of a text that is considered objectionable according to certain standards.

http://www.medialit.org/reading_room/article565.html

 
At 03 March, 2010 15:58, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

" Glenn Maxey said...
Censorship: The practice of suppressing a text or part of a text that is considered objectionable according to certain standards."

Um, no, it's action by a government.

You fucking moron.

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:00, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

In other words, you fucking moron, this is private property, and you have no right to be here.

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn, you're an idiot. Our constitutional rights are applicable only when the government tries to limit our freedoms--period.

"...Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the government or media organizations as determined by a censor."

Source: Wikipedia: Censorship.

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:13, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting how the most lunatic loudmouthed spokesman of the tea-party / pro-gun militia movement, Glenn Beck, constantly ridicules the trufers.
But Beck and fellow patriots like yourself do believe in a wacky 9/11 conspiracy story (involving Osama and 19 hijackers).

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:19, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Anonymous said...
Interesting how the most lunatic loudmouthed spokesman of the tea-party / pro-gun militia movement, Glenn Beck,..."

Glenn Beck is in a militia? Or does he just think that the 2nd Amendement is actually the law of the land?

"....constantly ridicules the trufers."

With good reason, you're a collection of insane conspiracy mongers with no connection with reality.

"But Beck and fellow patriots like yourself do believe in a wacky 9/11 conspiracy story (involving Osama and 19 hijackers)."

You mean the 19 hijackers who, you know, actually hijacked those jets and used them as weapons in their jihad against America? Those hijackers?

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:45, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Glenn, you're an idiot. Our constitutional rights are applicable only when the government tries to limit our freedoms--period.

Yes. I know. There is a conflict between Wikipedia and other sources on this point. I do not go with Wikipedia on this one. Censorship is a term broadly applied to filtering of unwanted expression.

Lick me, GayTurdBull, you fucking plagiarizing cunt.

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:47, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

In other words, you fucking moron, this is private property, and you have no right to be here.

Your son's butt hole is the private property of the Iraqi resistance. They are going to make him the sorriest fag in the history of the marines. He'll be limping, but not from an IED!

High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:51, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Not all censorship is equal, nor does all arise from government or external force. People self-censor all the time; such restraint can be part of the price of rational dialogue. The artist Ben Shahn's poster illustration reads: "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." Silence can indicate a forced assent, or conversely, it can be contemplative, a necessary part of dialogue that rises above the din of quotidian life.

Source

The term "censorship" comes from The Latin, censere "to give as one's opinion, to assess." The Roman censors were magistrates who took the census count and served as assessors and inspectors of morals and conduct.

In contrast to that straightforward definition from Roman times, contemporary usage offers no agreed-upon definition of the term or when to use it. Indeed, even whether the word itself applies to a given controversy in the arts is often vigorously contested.

Here are excerpts of definitions of "censorship" from U.S. organizations and publications with varying views. They are not intended as any composite mega-definition of the term, only as indications of the variety of approaches to this concept.


Source

 
At 03 March, 2010 16:53, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Pat?

James?

Please intervene, your gay little cretin minions are upset!

LOLCOPTER!!

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:07, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Glenn Beck is in a militia? Or does he just think that the 2nd Amendement is actually the law of the land?"

Spoken like a true Beck-head militia nut.

"With good reason, you're a collection of insane conspiracy mongers with no connection with reality."

Are you talking about Glenn Beck, yourself, or the sane people who think critically and question authority?

"You mean the 19 hijackers who, you know, actually hijacked those jets and used them as weapons in their jihad against America? Those hijackers?"

Yes, that conspiracy. Isn't that what the CIA told the media to tell you to believe? I bet you also think they came from Iraq.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:08, Anonymous ak said...

Looks like the new stupid truther meme is "Mysterious Deaths of 9/11 Witnesses" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

cheezeball troofer writeup here:
http://manuscripts4.blogspot.com/2010/03/mysterious-deaths-of-911-witnesses.html

wow, really connecting the dots on that one - pathetic.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:27, Anonymous Anonymous said...

or the sane people who think critically and question authority?

You're not brave for questioning authority and coming to the wrong conclusions. You guys weren't such self-righteous pricks. You think you're part of some elite group, the wise few who can see through the lies while everyone else are ignorant sheep. You're full of shit.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:30, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Not all censorship is equal, nor does all arise from government or external force."

Yes it does, you fucking rat turd.


"In contrast to that straightforward definition from Roman times, contemporary usage offers no agreed-upon definition of the term or when to use it."

Wrong again, child.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:30, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys weren't such self-righteous pricks
Are. You guys ARE such self-righteous pricks. I hope you enjoy feeling smarter than everyone else. It's gonna really suck if one day you realize that you were chasing bullshit all these years.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:35, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Spoken like a true Beck-head militia nut."

BLLLLRRRRTTTT!!!!!

Aw, I'm sorry, wrong answer.

"Are you talking about Glenn Beck, yourself, or the sane people who think critically and question authority?"


I'm talking about twoooooftards, moron. Do try to keep up.

"Yes, that conspiracy. Isn't that what the CIA told the media to tell you to believe?"

Wow, I'm I'm brainwashed by the CIA!

[slaps forehead]

I SEE DA LIGHT!!!!!

"I bet you also think they came from Iraq."

Well, no, no I don't, twoooooftard.

That's 0 for 4, but you don't leave emptyhanded, you get a lovely copy of our home game, "I'm a Retarded Moron Truther"

Thanks for playing!

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:44, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Not all censorship is equal, nor does all arise from government or external force."

Yes it does, you fucking rat turd.


"In contrast to that straightforward definition from Roman times, contemporary usage offers no agreed-upon definition of the term or when to use it."

Wrong again, child.


BAHAHAHAHA. You insulting my source text, one is from the PBS website... Those weren't my words, but theirs!

HAHAHAHA droopy imbecile twat!! Hilarious!

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:46, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay I'll play along.
Don't think critically and don't question authority.
Now I'll never feel smarter than anyone else and fall for any bullshit right?

By the way, you're a self-righteous prick.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:49, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

I'm sitting here, twiddling my thumbs, with confetti and balloons, ready to light the bonfire, Lazarus!

Are you as excited as I am?

High five!

Can I sing at the service?

I'll sing some verses from the Quran!

I'll dance on the flag!

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:49, Anonymous Anonymous said...

But not as much of a self-righteous prick as Lazarus:)

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:53, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"By the way, you're a self-righteous prick."

Not really, I'm really a nice guy.

I just can't stand America-hating, conspiratoid idiots with impossible "theories" and mindless Youtube videos.

But you're still a moron twoooofer™.

Deal.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:54, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

" You insulting my source text, one is from the PBS website..."

No, I'm insulting your idiocy, rat turd.

Damn, you miss a lot.

 
At 03 March, 2010 17:57, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you take an honest look at yourself, Lazarus, you have to admit you're a douche just like your role-model Glenn Beck. Deal with it.

 
At 03 March, 2010 18:15, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

No, I'm insulting your idiocy, rat turd.

Damn, you miss a lot.


Bahahahahaha!!! Clown! What I miss most, is even the slightest hint of intelligent life in that braindead kookloon ultra-nationlist skull of yours. Twat! Go die for my freedom!

 
At 03 March, 2010 18:17, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Hey Lazarus Loon, btw, shouldn't you be on your knees right now, begging Pat and James to censor me? ROFLMAO! WIMP!

 
At 03 March, 2010 18:38, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Hey Glenn, Why don't grow up, act like a man instead of an adolescent, and get the fuck out of here.

Take your transparent neo-Nazi bullshit and lies back to 911flogger where you belong.

Adios, fucktard.

 
At 03 March, 2010 18:49, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Hey Glenn, Why don't grow up, act like a man instead of an adolescent, and get the fuck out of here.

Take your transparent neo-Nazi bullshit and lies back to 911flogger where you belong.

Adios, fucktard.


This insolent attitude just bought you another month of trolling.

LOL.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:05, Blogger ConsDemo said...

"Patriot" groups and others on the extremes are really nihilists are their core. They object to the unpleasant realities of life.

Muslim terrorist threat...doesn't exist, the west only attacks itself and blames it on the jihadis to build pipelines in Afghanistan.

Climate change...doesn't exist because...well, we don't want it too, it would demand we change our ways

Excessive federal borrowing isn't the result of us demanding more from government than we are willing to pay in taxes...it exists because the government spends to much on bank bailouts and illegal immigrants!

In short, conspiratoids and patriot groups live in a worry free world. "Worry free" in the sense the only thing they have to worry about is the threat of supposed NWO storm troopers (that for some reason never arrive) swooping them up. Beyond that, all the complexities of the real world can be dismissed.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...This insolent attitude just bought you another month of trolling."

That's rich coming from a weasel who, if told to go screw himself, could pull it off.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:11, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! You miserable plagiarizing twat! There are no depths to which you will not sink!

GayTurdBull's awesome power of desperately Googling for insults strikes again:

GayTurdBull:
"That's rich coming from a weasel who, if told to go screw himself, could pull it off."

The Intarnets:
"He's the only man who, if told to screw himself, could do it."

GayTurdBull. What a superwanker! The type of guy who you'd want to pull the plug on, even if not in a coma!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Gee Gleen, you've proven, once again, that just about every old insult can be found somewhere (if not multiple locations) on the internet. Too bad you haven't proven your alleged argument.

Just keep grasping at straws, Mr. neo-Nazi, Holocaust denier and anti-Semite.

Gassed any innocent Jewish people lately, Glenn?

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:21, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

In short, conspiratoids and patriot groups live in a worry free world. "Worry free" in the sense the only thing they have to worry about is the threat of supposed NWO storm troopers (that for some reason never arrive) swooping them up. Beyond that, all the complexities of the real world can be dismissed.

Not so. Some conspiracy theories are incredibly complex, and very worrysome. There is a different problem: interactive news sources. These days people only consume media and read sources that bring them the perspective they agree with. The rightists go to the rightist websites and tv channels, the leftists go to the leftist websites and tv channels. "Skeptics" visit websites that tell them all deviating opinions are hogwash, and "conspiracists" visit websites that tell them that everything they know is false.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:26, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Gassed any innocent Jewish people lately, Glenn?

Nope. But I'd merrily ram a hose down your throat, connect it to a truck exhaust, and start the truck. You'd feel dizzy at first, and after a while you'd lose consciousness. Still a while longer and the world's collective IQ will increase dramatically and suddenly for the first time since your birth, otherwise knows as "The Great Calamity". You retarded, desperate, ugly, stupid, degenerate, lying and plagiarizing twat!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:30, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn, can you show me where the insult is attributed to anyone?

You can't? Then it's public domain.

Moreover, you can't prove that I didn't dredge the insult up from memory, which is precisely what I did, but since when does common sense matter to a full time liar and propagandist for "9/11 truth"?.

Moreover, I can also find the same insult in the following locations:

[1] Insult Jokes.

[2] fishtown chatter.

[3] Experience Project.

[4] Sheogorath.

And that's only 4 hits out of 775 total hits.

Source: Google: Proof that Glenn's a liar.

So what was that about "plagiarism", weasel?

Is slander all you have, Glenn?

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, Glenn.

Or is that "plagiarism", too, Glenn?

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:30, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

I mean, do you ever wish you wasn't such a hopeless, inspirationless copycat wankturd, Bill?

Ever?

Can't you just take eighty opiate pills and call it a day? Nobody's going to miss you, you know. In fact, I think at Alternet, your apparent resident troll cave, they'll fly the fucking flag as soon as they learn.

Fucktard!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:36, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yup, by Glenn's "standards", using the old insult, Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, is plagiarism.

And look Glenn, I found over 250,000 hits on Google for the same phrase.

Source: Google: More proof that Glenn is a liar.

Any more lies for us, Herr Streicher?

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:39, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Fucktard!"

What's the matter, Glenn? Is your back against the wall again, weasel?

So I'm still waiting for the attributions for those decades old insults.

Too bad that you're so fucking, stupid dishonest and malevolent that you can't or won't acknowledge the concept of public domain.

Are your parents siblings, Glenn?

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:41, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

I think you may be the sorriest overconfident foolhardy twatster I have ever encountered on the intarnets.

I mean, just look at the incredibly pathetic way you try to obscure your utterly desperate straw grasping insult googling.

I mean: you're a complete ultra-pathetic loser wankturd and they're just no way you can hide it anymore!

You're a goner! The jig is up! You've been intellectually executed over and over and over. Just throw in the towel already, wankturd. Why prolong this public humiliation unnecessarily? Are you a masochist? Or don't you have any shame at all? That could very well be possible. Without shame, endlessly making a legendary ass out of yourself becomes feasible, doesn't it?

LOL!

High five Bill!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:41, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Some conspiracy theories are incredibly complex, and very worrysome.

Assuming one believes them, yes. However, almost all conspiracy theories invariably fault the blame for whatever ills society on some narrow elite (however defined). Take the case of fossil fuel consumption, its a mass consumption item, Bill Gates et al, isn't the problem. Rather it is all of us "working joes" who are the problem. If you listen to Alex Jones, however, the supposedly virtuous middle class is blameless because climate change is a hoax. If you dislike reality, conspiracy theories always offer you an out, by simply dismissing the problem altogether.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn whines, "...You're a goner! The jig is up! You've been intellectually executed over and over and over."

If I've been "intellectually executed", it certainly wasn't done by a fucktard of your alleged "intellectual caliber".

After all, I'm still waiting for the attributions for those decades old insults. Because you can't prove "plagiarism" unless, of course, you can provide the original author.

So where are those attributions, Glenn?

After all, if you're telling the "truth", you should have no trouble producing the attributions.

Get to work, weasel.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:52, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Assuming one believes them, yes. However, almost all conspiracy theories invariably fault the blame for whatever ills society on some narrow elite (however defined). Take the case of fossil fuel consumption, its a mass consumption item, Bill Gates et al, isn't the problem. Rather it is all of us "working joes" who are the problem. If you listen to Alex Jones, however, the supposedly virtuous middle class is blameless because climate change is a hoax. If you dislike reality, conspiracy theories always offer you an out, by simply dismissing the problem altogether.

Yes, some conspiracy theories do appear to be motivated by the desire for an easy solution to complex problems. Or, they just fit right in with a previously existing ideology. Climate change and countermeasures may cripple the economy and introduce more state control. This smells like socialism, so climate change conspiracy theories are popular with the right.

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:53, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

So where are those attributions, Glenn?

After all, if you're telling the "truth", you should have no trouble producing the attributions.

Get to work, weasel.


Ha ha ha ha ha!! You are in no position whatsoever to be making demands, fucktard!! Apologize for being a plagiarizing bitch who can't think of her own jokes, how's that?

LOL!!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:56, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right, Glenn, when your back's against the wall, CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

Where are the attributions--you slimy cocksucker?

Without attributions, you're nothing but a rank liar. But what's new?

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:58, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

So typical, if you're caught being a plagiarizing little bitch, start obfuscating as quickly as possible, and make all kinds of diversionary "demands" for "proof", and hope that it all ends up being sucked into a a neverending semantic argument.

Your objections, obfuscations and red herrings are rejected. Time and again, you have been exposed as a plagiarizer. In one comment to Arhoolie, you were caught using no less than three or four pre-cooked takeaway oneliners readily found on the internet. You're a fraud, GayTurdBull, and you have been exposed.

You're an embarrassment and a liability!

LOL!

High five!

 
At 03 March, 2010 19:59, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Hey Lazarus Loon, btw, shouldn't you be on your knees right now, begging Pat and James to censor me? ROFLMAO! WIMP!"

That wouldn't be censorship, you ignorant rat turd.

It'd be fumigation.

Try again.

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:01, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"This insolent attitude just bought you another month of trolling."

Exactly.

That's why I used the term "fumigation".

It's be like getting rid of an infestation of lice.

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:01, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

And especially, please do get steaming upset about this rather large pie in the face you've sustained... again.

You look like an utter twat! Again and again, GayTurdBull!

Why don't you enroll in some comedy class? Maybe some washed up ex-comedian can teach you about inventing your own one-liners, so you don't have to rely on these pre-packaged cliches from online insult collections anymore! LOL!

You're such a twatster! You're somebody to point an laugh at!

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:03, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Glenn Maxey said...
Gassed any innocent Jewish people lately, Glenn?

Nope. But I'd merrily ram a hose down your throat, connect it to a truck exhaust, and start the truck. You'd feel dizzy at first, and after a while you'd lose consciousness. Still a while longer and the world's collective IQ will increase dramatically and suddenly for the first time since your birth, otherwise knows as "The Great Calamity". You retarded, desperate, ugly, stupid, degenerate, lying and plagiarizing twat!"

The vein in your forehead is throbbing, you anti-semitic cocksucker.

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:06, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

" Glenn Maxey said...
So typical, if you're caught being a plagiarizing little bitch, start obfuscating as quickly as possible, and make all kinds of diversionary "demands" for "proof", and hope that it all ends up being sucked into a a neverending semantic argument."

Now the eyelid is ticing.

Can't stand to be shown to be a fraud, eh, cocksucker?

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:06, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right, Gleen, keep changing the subject.

Who are the authors of the insults, Glenn?

If you can't prove authorship, let alone accuracy, then you can't prove "plagiarism".

By your "logic", I can accuse anyone who uses the phrase "Fuck you" of plagiarism.

Thus, you're a plagiarist, by your own "standards", Glenn.

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, Glenn.

NOTE: Google yields over 250,000 hits for the phrase "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on".

Plagiarist.

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:09, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Exactly.

That's why I used the term "fumigation".

It's be like getting rid of an infestation of lice.


Lazarus, I think it's important in situations of crisis to look ahead. We've already established that your son will die a fag, and that you need to get used to speaking about him in the past tense. These are the harsh realities of war. There is good chance your son will not return.

That said, do you think this is a good fag coffin? Remember, in the event of a calamity, it's good to be prepared. Those Iraqis are nasty terrrrrrrists.

Besides, you need something me and my buddies can point, laugh and throw popcorn at. And piss on.

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:09, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Why don't you enroll in some comedy class? Maybe some washed up ex-comedian can teach you about inventing your own one-liners, so you don't have to rely on these pre-packaged cliches from online insult collections anymore! LOL!

You're such a twatster! You're somebody to point an laugh at!"

Scraming at the heavens is a rather futile passtime, rat turd.

You're a fraud, a loser and an all around twat.

Why don't you just go blow your brains out and spare the world a lot of pain?

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:10, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Lazarus, I think it's important in situations of crisis to look ahead. We've already established that your son will die a fag, and that you need to get used to speaking about him in the past tense. These are the harsh realities of war. There is good chance your son will not return.

That said, do you think this is a good fag coffin? Remember, in the event of a calamity, it's good to be prepared. Those Iraqis are nasty terrrrrrrists.

Besides, you need something me and my buddies can point, laugh and throw popcorn at. And piss on."

Throb throb throb.

Tic tic tic.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:14, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

Scraming (sic) at the heavens is a rather futile passtime (sic), rat turd.

You're a fraud, a loser and an all around twat.

Why don't you just go blow your brains out and spare the world a lot of pain?


Oh noez! =((( How hurtful! Please stop! ROFLMAO!! (You can't even use your own words to insult me, LOL!)

Anyways, what did you think of that coffin? Nice? Good for fag marine? LOL..!!

 
At 03 March, 2010 20:44, Anonymous Glenn Maxey said...

A blast from the past:

Lazarus Long:
"Especially raging hemorhoids hate speech.

He's a despicable scumbag, and I don't know why you allow him to continue to post here."


WIMP! PUSSY! Am I "too harsh" for this character assassination blog? Where the fuck is Troy Sexton? Do they still let that monstrosity anywhere a phone so he can harass, intimidate and threaten 9/11 family members?

What a lovely little blog. Just look at you wimps whine. You're pathetic. Take it like men, you fucking pussies. You bloodsucking stalker psychopaths LIVE for this anti-dissent psyop shit.

Now just look at you pussies. Got backbone? Huh? What's the matter? Is Bob McIlvaine's line busy? Hmm? No stalking targets? How about some more 9/11 truther photoshopping? You fucking coward fags!

Do what you do best! Destroy dissenters! I have more respect for dog poop on the sidewalk.

 
At 03 March, 2010 23:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn whines, "...I have more respect for dog poop on the sidewalk."

Well, if nothing else, at least you have self respect.

After all, you're the definition of "dog poop".

 
At 03 March, 2010 23:59, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Glenn the inebriated illiterate scribbles, "...I mean, do you ever wish you [SIC] wasn't [SIC] such a hopeless, inspirationless [SIC] copycat wankturd [SIC], Bill?"

Are you losing it again, Glenn? Poor baby. Cry me a river.

Don't you wish, "Glennus the Menace", that you could pass an elementary examination in spelling (aka., "spelling bee") and form a coherent argument, fucktard?

Let me guess, jackass: You're drunk again?

But what's new? Right, "Max Bridges", "Glenn Maxey", or whatever your nom de troof happens to be this week?

Pathetic.

I guess I'm driving you to madness and alcoholism, Glenn.

Mission accomplished.

 
At 04 March, 2010 00:31, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yo Glenn!

It's your hero, Foster Brooks.

Source: YouTube: As the p...peut...errrrr...Puerto Rican gentleman...ju...just told you, I ha...have never met D...Don Rickles.

Degenerate.

 
At 04 March, 2010 04:16, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

'Their country, their resistance'.

And their hospital:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/03/03/iraq.violence/index.html

If you fell into an open sewer Glenn, you'd pollute it.

 
At 04 March, 2010 07:18, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Print: 6 Elements Every Conspiracy Theory Needs: Wired Magazine

Plus a "Conspiracy Generator".
Are you kidding me? [ event ] was a total sham! Think about it! Everyone knows that [ appeal to precedent ]. And have you noticed that [ ruling elite ] has started to act very strangely? They obviously don’t want this story getting out. I mean, what would happen if people began asking [ disturbing question ]? Well, they may be able to fool the sheeple, but the members of [ dedicated group of truth-seekers ] aren’t swallowing their story. Look, don’t take it from me; [ expert endorsement ] is convinced as well. But we have to act fast, because [ suggestion of imminent threat ]. I just wanted you to be aware of this, in case I disappear.

Make anything you like a major plot.

 
At 04 March, 2010 08:32, Blogger Triterope said...

Some of the groups (SPLC) classifies as threats can be better described as having a threatening message but being impotent in reality.

That's the money quote.

These "patriot" groups have nothing in common but anti-government petulance. They can put on a great show of organized anger at the government. CNN eats that shit up. But when it comes time to take a positive stance, and proclaim what should be done, their differences emerge in spades. And the hundreds of people who chanted together at the courthouse steps quickly splinter into small, irrelevant, competing organizations. And they'll all complain about the "broken government" without a shred of irony.

Just like the 9-11 Truth movement. They're all in unanimous agreement of DURR INSIDE JOB, but can't agree on the most basic details of what did happen. So now we've got planers and no-planers, controlled demolition and anti-controlled demolition, and other flavors like holograms, exotic space weapons, TV fakery, and the CIT flyover loonies.

The real threat of these groups is that they will produce one or two individuals who will actually carry out an attack. Just as Timothy McVeigh and his cronies came out of the 90s militia movement, so too will 2016's domestic terrorist bomber have roots in 9-11 Truth, Tea Party-ism, "Paytriot" groups, or some other flavor of the same brew.

 
At 04 March, 2010 10:00, Anonymous Arhoolie said...

Imagine poor PornBoy,at this juncture he's in the sorry position of going to bat for the simpleton Glenn Beck! And only because he'a fellow Troglodyte.It'
s not as if any sane person thinks Beck is a serious thinker or commentator.

 
At 04 March, 2010 10:14, Blogger angrysoba said...

"Glenn": Am I "too harsh" for this character assassination blog?

I think you are just too sick!

Your ghoulish enjoyment of suicide bombers blowing up hospitals and celebrating it as though it were a "resistance" operation and psychopathic fantasizing about the death of another commenters son is far worse than the behaviour of any other Truther or debunker.

It's just ill, you should see a doctor.

 
At 04 March, 2010 10:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

Here's the latest from the anti-Semitic wing of the troof:

Source: rebelnews: The Murderous Mossad and 9-11, by Christopher Bollyn, 4 March 2010.

 
At 04 March, 2010 11:50, Blogger Triterope said...

Christopher Bollyn

Is he still on the run from the Illinois police? I never did hear a conclusion to that story.

 

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