Tuesday, April 06, 2010

Are Some 9/11 Troofers Complete Morons?

OK, the title is a rhetorical question, but how else to refer to this idotic topic for a troofer radio show tomorrow, Are Some of the 9/11 Passengers Still Alive?...and other disturbing questions.

There is a reason it is disturbing, because it is both idiotic and offensive.


Are the two people in this photograph the same person? A nose job, some cheek implants and a little eyelid work and maybe we have a before-and-after image. Maybe.

I am the first one to admit that there are a lot of far fetched theories and allegations floating around about what really happened on September 11th, 2001, none crazier however than the official explanation. But the latest information to come my way, courtesy of our guest Phil Jayhan of the LetsRoll Forums, has left me stumped and thirsting for answers, which some of you out there may be be able to provide.


Most of us have this little voice in our head that tells us when something is really stupid, and we should be using our brainpower for something more productive. In the troofer case, I think that gene is missing.

74 Comments:

At 06 April, 2010 18:49, Blogger Billman said...

I love how he tries to play it off "yeah, sure, a passenger having a bunch of plastic surgery and still not contacting their family is still way less far fetched than the government saying they died in the crash."

How long before a troofer attempts to steal the identity of a passenger and impersonate them just to stick it to the government?

 
At 06 April, 2010 19:00, Blogger restey9690 said...

This clown Jayhan has been using
Above Top Secret forum to peddle
his nonsense

 
At 06 April, 2010 20:05, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

James, I think the correct phrase is "About a chromosone short of a Biden."

 
At 06 April, 2010 20:42, Blogger James B. said...

Now personally I think Biden is so dumb he makes Palin look like a Rhodes Scholar, but even I would not compare him to these morons.

 
At 06 April, 2010 22:57, Anonymous NurseDan said...

Hi guys!!
I`m new to the debunking game but i here good things about you all. Let me know if you need a sponge bath, please.

 
At 06 April, 2010 23:31, Anonymous KDLarsen said...

TNL has been pushing all sorts of 9/11 theories as of late. One of their staff even posted an ad for it on another board I frequent, complete with "Hijackers are still alive" and "Ted Olson couldn't have recieved a phone call from Barbara Olson".

They were even pushing the first of the Pearl Harbor books by DRG, which I understand Grifter himself has said contained clear errors.

 
At 07 April, 2010 00:24, Anonymous TV said...

They actually call themselves "researchers". Actual researchers would attempt to find the history of the person in the second photo prior to 9/11. If a solid history exists, complete with photos and whatnot, the two are not one and the same.

Clearly, though, twoofers will remain in the nebular area of recent photos and guesswork, which will be passed on as "proof".

 
At 07 April, 2010 08:36, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet you fail to mention the comments in the 911blogger article, strongly condemning this entry, such as

"We want to promote this do we?" - jimd3100

"This is a total dead end" - simuvac

Who are both respected long-time members of 911blogger, unlike the new fish who posted this drivel.

 
At 07 April, 2010 09:51, Anonymous mr tibbs said...

"They were even pushing the first of the Pearl Harbor books by DRG, which I understand Grifter himself has said contained clear errors."

His whole 9/11 oeuvre is a clear error. One should never forget that this is the man who thinks that 3000 dead wasn't enough, - there had to be a celebrity involved. It's all psyops.

Surely this ambulance chaser has finished milking the misery of others.

 
At 07 April, 2010 10:24, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah sure thing, tibbs. You know who really hope for another 9/11? These people:

#1
#2
#3

 
At 07 April, 2010 10:25, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excuse me, #2 was supposed to be:

Stu Bykofsky

 
At 07 April, 2010 10:43, Anonymous nwoisbunk said...

Who are both respected long-time members of 911blogger, unlike the new fish who posted this drivel.

Respected long time members of 911blogger? That's about one step above long time respected members of NAMBLA.

 
At 07 April, 2010 10:57, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

JamesB the Science Boob and PornBoy really are the Abbott and Costello of the Debunker Cult.Do you suppose we could get the Meals on Wheels crew over to their flat and force feed them some solid food and cancel their Fox Cable News subscription?

 
At 07 April, 2010 11:23, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Respected long time members of 911blogger? That's about one step above long time respected members of NAMBLA."

Since you're comparing them to pedophiles, that must mean they're wrong about condemning this blog entry then. Therefore, the 9/11 victims must be alive. Thanks for clearing that up.

 
At 07 April, 2010 11:32, Anonymous John E. Smoke said...

'"This is a total dead end" - simuvac'

Is this guy talking about this particular nutty theory or the 9/11 Truth movement generally? I guess it doesn't really matter; he's totally correct in either case.

 
At 07 April, 2010 11:56, Anonymous Troofers R Us said...

"Since you're comparing them to pedophiles, that must mean they're wrong about condemning this blog entry then. Therefore, the 9/11 victims must be alive. Thanks for clearing that up."

Troofer Logic! Fucking Classic!!!

Hey Self-Loathing Jew (SLJ) - shut the fuck up. If I want shit from you I'll squeeze that head of yours.

 
At 07 April, 2010 12:01, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Only at the World Heaquarters of the Debunker Cult can one find numerous "Jew Hater" accusations aginst "truthers" followed by insanely flailing attacks against Jews for their opinions.Yes,it's an insane Cult populated by insane bloviaters and haters.

 
At 07 April, 2010 12:05, Blogger Sam said...

This post seems to have drawn in some of the less well-medicated Truthers.

 
At 07 April, 2010 14:21, Blogger Pat said...

"They were even pushing the first of the Pearl Harbor books by DRG, which I understand Grifter himself has said contained clear errors."

Yes, but he also said he corrected at least some of the errors when he wrote The New Pearl Harbor Revisited. I assume he's waiting until The New Pearl Harbor the Final Cut to correct all the errors.

 
At 07 April, 2010 14:28, Anonymous Dil I. Gaf said...

"followed by insanely flailing attacks against Jews for their opinions."

Aren't you the guy that took offense to being called a Jew?

Did you convert recently?

No mistake on the self-loathing part?

 
At 07 April, 2010 14:32, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Sam said...
This post seems to have drawn in some of the less well-medicated Truthers."

That'd be ALL of them.

 
At 07 April, 2010 15:09, Anonymous Toby said...

"we may just have found some solid proof that the events of 9/11 involved more people than any of us could have imagined."

A truther actually suggesting that an "unimaginable" number of conspirators were involved. Yeah, something tells me he hasn't thought this one through.

"Out of respect for the victims of 9/11, some topics have been completely taboo, even among 9/11 researchers."

Which possible topic is he referring to? Let's see- the victims (and first responders) have already been accused of being in on the plot; of sending their own children to their death; of being cowards for complying with a terrorist armed with "only" a boxcutter; of orchestrating the events to "pull" off an insurance scam. They have even had their final words to their family/loved ones mocked. I'd really like to know: what are these "taboo" topics that are even more insulting than the examples I've just listed, which the truthers have shown restraint in discussing?

 
At 07 April, 2010 15:27, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you just call Silverstein a "victim"?

I guess that means this topic is also bringing out some more whack job "debunkers" with intermittent explosive disorder who harass 9/11 family members, like Troy Sexton.

 
At 07 April, 2010 15:38, Anonymous Toby said...

Did you just call Silverstein a "victim"?

Are you so blinded by your hatred of him that you can't recognize that he was also a victim on 9/11? Obviously he wasn't the same kind of victim as those who died (or were wounded) in the WTC, but that doesn't negate the fact that he suffered huge financial losses on 9/11? How is he not considered a victim?

 
At 07 April, 2010 16:23, Anonymous Sean Fitzgerald said...

You tell them Anonymous!!!!

 
At 07 April, 2010 17:23, Blogger James B. said...

What, I am supposed to be impressed that 3 people mildly objected to this idiotic post on 911 Blogger. If I were, for example, to make a post on 911 Blogger suggesting something completely outlandish, like how thermite is not used in building demolitions, I would get 20 condemnations within the hour and be banned from the site.

In fact I have been banned from the site, without making a single post.

 
At 07 April, 2010 17:35, Blogger ConsDemo said...

Since you're comparing them to pedophiles, that must mean they're wrong about condemning this blog entry then.

No, it is merely a reminder that all twoofers are scum. Whether you are a no-planer or CD supporter or whatever, you slander this country with the accusation it killed its own citizens on 9/11 without a shred of credible evidence to backup the claim. There is no point making distinctions among you.

 
At 07 April, 2010 17:39, Blogger Triterope said...

I'd really like to know: what are these "taboo" topics that are even more insulting than the examples I've just listed, which the truthers have shown restraint in discussing?

Now that's a good question.

But I bet the answer would be "well, we've never proposed any of those theories; those must be those false flag cointelpro phony truthers the government hires to make us look bad."

 
At 07 April, 2010 18:41, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And do you know why that is, James Bennet? Because of "patriot" policing blogs and forums, like yours and JREF.

Because of this, 911blogger has two primary objectives: (1) Allow discussion, but not too outlandish and (2) Promote 9/11 truth.

(1) Is currently delineated by this thread. More than that is simply not "constitutional" for 911blogger.

(2) Prevents you from joining and blogging. There are more than enough outlets for state worship. 911blogger needs to be on message. You can refute here.

A site that doesn't censor and ban can't accomplish either objective 1 or 2. You, on the other hand, don't have to censor and ban. You are a government mouthpiece, and you are, by default, in the safe zone. All you need to do is promote gossip about 9/11 truth, and so everybody is free to say whatever they will here.

Activist groups don't have that luxury, with sleazy and desperate little paparazzi roaming the net, hunting for the kill, looking for personal details to exploit, some incident to blow out of proportion, or another straw man to bayonet. To a certain extent, they have to play by your rules, and you like that.

However, you apparently don't seem to mind pretending this difference doesn't exist, and somehow 911blogger should be some kind of free-for-all. If it was, they'd either be providing you ammo or they'd be self-defeating. From 911blogger's perspective, this policy makes a whole lot of sense, with (forgive me the LOTR metaphor) the evil eye lurking from Mordor, scanning for the next opening in the defenses.

And let me remind you. Jimd3100's condemnations of this crap aren't "mild".

 
At 07 April, 2010 19:01, Blogger James B. said...

Then why do the people on 911 Blogger throw a hissy fit whenever the Huffington Post or any other site "censors" them and prevents them from discussing 911 conspiracy theories?

I have never complained that I was censored by 911 Blogger, I just point out how disingenous they are in only presenting one side of the evidence. They will allow conspiracy theories no matter how irrational, but immediately condemn anything which questions their viewpoint as "disinfo". They are well within their right to do so, but that doesn't mean it isn't stupid.

 
At 07 April, 2010 22:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

James B. wrote, "...Then why do the people on 911 Blogger throw a hissy fit whenever the Huffington Post or any other site "censors" them and prevents them from discussing 911 conspiracy theories?"

You're absolutely right, James. And in support of your argument I submit the following article from 911blogger.com.

Pay special attention to the posts by a nutter who calls himself "PFGetty". The post continues,

PFGetty: I agree. We should help each other out in comment debates.

"I could use some help on Alternet. Every morning, any article that deals with any subject that is a consequence of 9/11, like war or torture or media censorship and wiretapping, gets a comment from me about 911.

"And I get horribly flamed by some, like 'Encino' and 'GuitarBill' and others. They are ruthless, insulting, crude, but smart.

"Go to Alternet.org.

"Actually there Alternet has had few articles I could bring 911 onto in the last few days. There are a few, though.


PFGetty continues,

PFGetty: "...That's a great idea.

"Somewhere here on blogger.........a place to put your website and comment and/or denier bs, and get others to help.

"We could really blast them.

"I really think theirs is a concerted effort.

"I'm not sure how it is done.

"Maybe the CIA/FBI or other agency.

"But it could be the Simon Weissenthal Center, or AIPAC, or a group of pseudo ipatriotic fundamentalist groups.

"But theirs is too organized, fast, the information they have flies out quickly.

"I'd love to know who some of the people really are.

"When I make a comment they know who I am.
But these guys are always completely ananymous
[SIC].

"We are being snaked."


Notice that when the "9/11 truth" movement hijacks a thread it's labeled "bringing the truth to the people", but when we post to 911blogger, it's intolerable: "...There are more than enough outlets for state worship. 911blogger needs to be on message."

Source: 911blogger.com

No double standard there, right Anonymous? If it wasn't for hypocrisy, the "9/11 truth movement" would have nothing at all :)

(I only have time for one post tonight. It's late so I'm going to bed.)

 
At 08 April, 2010 08:08, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mom: Son who threatened Pelosi got radical ideas from Fox News

More of those classical liberals at work, fighting the reactionary leftists.

 
At 08 April, 2010 10:03, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"I really think theirs is a concerted effort.

Well yeah, Debunking of bullshit has been around for ever. Be it truthers, tea baggers or other loons you will find a smart ass skeptic pointing out the fact they have no clothing. You see the same thing with creationist and anti vaccination goofs.

It's tough on these people, being suckers and all. They bought into the hype and we have the audacity to point and laugh at the fools.

 
At 08 April, 2010 10:48, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neither stroking your own ego by citing the awe of lightweight truthers nor generalizing every separate issue into one category is going to help you achieve 'victory'. It's going to take a neutral, objective approach, and a departure from desperate name-calling.

Right now, you are absolutely no better than any creationist. How creative you are with psychological warfare is irrelevant. Your current behavior doesn't make you a skeptic by any stretch of the imagination, rather it is reminiscent of an underinformed schoolyard bully.

Just how well did Pat do in the debate with Jon Gold? I think the debate was particularly "tough" on Pat, which is why his hatred for Jon Gold is so apparent from his repeated but failed attempts to be "funny" at his expense, as well as thinly veiled statements of admiration, such as "the one I love".

You know this is true. You know the 9/11 commission report is a criminal cover-up. So you concern yourself with the lower ladder entities like Gargamel chasing smurfs. Well give yourself a good "Pat" on the back, because the rest of us aren't impressed, Biff.

 
At 08 April, 2010 11:07, Blogger Sam said...

LOL, the only thing you appear to have on "lightweight Truthers" is an even more audacious capacity to deny. Being callous to reason doesn't make you a more stringent truthseeker, it makes you a denialist.

 
At 08 April, 2010 12:05, Anonymous g miller said...

Anonymous said...

You know the 9/11 commission report is a criminal cover-up.

For the sake of someone who is unfamiliar with your views I would like to ask you a couple of questions. I am not engaging in name calling or attacking you, but in none of your posts have I seen you state what YOU believe as far as 911 "truth" goes. So if you would please answer the following for me I would greatly appreciate it:

1. Do you believe any of the passengers from the 4 airplanes that crashed that day are still alive?

2. Do you believe that the phone calls made from the airplanes that day were from the victims or were the result of some form of voice morphing technology?

3. Do you believe that certain individuals that worked at the pentagon allowed their family memebers to board a flight they KNEW was going to be crashed into the pentagon, therby killing their family member.

Again, thank you in advance for answering these questions.

 
At 08 April, 2010 14:49, Anonymous mr tibbs said...

"Neither stroking your own ego by citing the awe of lightweight truthers nor generalizing every separate issue into one category is going to help you achieve 'victory'."

In case you hadn't heard, anonymous, the war is over. Your ridiculous theories never stood a chance. You think there's some grand ideological debate going on, but it isn't so.

As to "lightweight truthers", this applies to all of them. The plastic surgery fantasies, the controlled demolitions, the missile, whatever bullshit you happen to subscribe to, it's all cut from the same cloth & it's all as unreal today as it was five years ago.

Give it up. Have the good grace to admit defeat.

 
At 08 April, 2010 15:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Mr. Tibbs wrote, "...You think there's some grand ideological debate going on, but it isn't so.

Glenn Maxey (aka, Anonymous, here's his photograph) is well aware that the "war" between "9/11 truth" and reality was lost long ago.

He's merely trying to stroke his pulverized ego by resorting to tortured arguments, while picking gnat-shit out of pepper and declaring himself the "winner".

Glenn would be pathetic if his line of argument wasn't so thoroughly laughable.

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:00, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

schoolyard bully?

Stop crying little boy, of course you are being browbeat by us because you are so intellectually weak and factually challenged. And because your so called cause is 100% bullshit you will never attract anyone but misinformed YouTube kiddies and burned out kooks. It's survival of the fittest and you guys are the un-evolved cavemen of ideas.

So get use to the fact you will always be under the thumb of true skeptics and debunkers. You will always be something normal people laugh at, of me it's a cheap thrill, kind of like going to a freak show. Thank you for the entertainment.

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:26, Anonymous Fucktard Patrol said...

Great article Fucktard!


"Greg frequently gets in with a group of people that have really radical ideas and that are not consistent with myself or the rest of the family, which gets him into problems," the 83-year-old mother of the accused man, Eleanor Giusti, said. "I say Fox News, or all of those that are really radical, and he, that's where he comes from."

Gregory Giusti was arrested Wednesday after threating the House Speaker over healthcare legislation. The 48-year-old man has a history of run-ins with the law, and was arrested in 2004 for threatening a train conductor's life after he was caught trying to evade the fare.

He's also the subject of a lawsuit by a San Francisco church which alleges he has engaged in a "campaign of harassment" of church members, and has been convicted of petty theft and welfare fraud."

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:45, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"Anonymous said...
Mom: Son who threatened Pelosi got radical ideas from Fox News

More of those classical liberals at work, fighting the reactionary leftists."

He says as he directs you to "Raw Story", as big a collection of reactionary leftist moonbats as ever been assembled in one place.

Why don't you just send readers to a twoooofer™ site, you reatrded marmoset?


HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!

 
At 08 April, 2010 16:48, Blogger Lazarus Long said...

"... you guys are the un-evolved cavemen of ideas."

Oooo, can I use that, Dave?

It also applies perfectly to reactionary leftists, and I wanna use it.

 
At 08 April, 2010 17:12, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

DimBulb Gaf (April 7,14:28) Never took offense to being called a Jew.Merely pointed out that the insane commenter was incorrect,and crudely concerned with Jews himself.I am not Jewish.My point was..... ah,fuck it,you're too stupid to waste time on,you simple fuck.

 
At 08 April, 2010 18:14, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber pud huffer scribbles, "...I am not Jewish."

I agree, because you're obviously a stupid-bot.

 
At 09 April, 2010 12:34, Anonymous Guitar Smasher said...

Poor,poor pitiful GuitarShrill,you've hit rock bottom you sad Yuppie.

 
At 09 April, 2010 12:41, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Poor,poor pitiful GuitarShrill,you've hit rock bottom you sad Yuppie."

Really, Arsehoolie?

Then perhaps you can explain why you won't address the substance of my argument? Instead all you can do is stuff words down my throat and attack the caricature you created (a classic straw man technique).

So tell me, asshole, when will you address Mineta's fatally flawed time line?

I won't hold my breath--you poor, deluded scumbag.

Seek psychiatric intervention, pork snorkel.

 
At 09 April, 2010 13:43, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

This from the Oily Wagonwheel out West,the same pretentious twit who can't even answer the simple question of how far Shanksville,Pa. is from the bunker.Sorry,I know it must be traumatic having your words stuffed down your throat in front of your home crowd.I feel for you DogBoy the Genius! Now go back to your strong suit:illustrating the complete lunacy of the nutty PornBoy.

 
At 09 April, 2010 13:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right, Arsehoolie, just keep changing the subject and refuse to address Mineta's fatally flawed time line.

Pussy!

And who gives a damn how far Shanksville is from DC--it's irrelevant.

What? Do I come equipped with a GPS in your head-up-your-ass opinion?

Any more lies and obfuscation for us, shit-for-brains?

 
At 09 April, 2010 17:32, Anonymous Troof Ninja said...

*drops down from rafters*

Arhoorie-san Okama desu is at it here, too! Hey, dolt boy, tell us again funny story of your friend Pat dying in 9/11 attack with moral about how you honor his memory with your derp and ad-hominem attacks! I'm sure he be proud of you and not embarrassed at all!

*puff of smoke*

 
At 10 April, 2010 03:17, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say angrysoba, why did just post that under an other alias? Because you were making fun of a truther using a victim he knows? That's typically something a spineless coward would do, angrysoba.

 
At 10 April, 2010 03:44, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The slew of responses is flattering, and the state worshippers hit one bad note after the other in yet another harmonious crescendo of state loyalist hatred. Because I've debased their object of worship and mercilessly drove the stake through their sensibilities.

Like a rattled beehive, they swarm, and they try to sting because they got stung. It's a very satisfying sight. In fact, it's awesome, seeing the bees bumble and stumble, backing up their arguments over their own stinger. As they say: if you're catching flak, you must be over the target.

I'll reply to g miller's witty questions.
1) No.
2) No.
3) No.

 
At 10 April, 2010 10:07, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Poor sap didn't notice that he's the one who picked up the clicker and changed the question.You answered one when you said you DON'T think #93 was shot down.Now move confidently toward the simple bonus question for 50 points:How far is Shanksvilee from D.C. Go for it,dude.You up for it? Bitchin'!!

 
At 10 April, 2010 10:13, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Who could possibly keep up with all the whiny moaning and complaints from the unhinged Debunker Cult? Not me."Troof Ninja" flies the yellow flag,albeit in an incredibly subtle and witty manner (GuitarShrill,that's a joke,in case you didn't know!),with his pithy,yet idiotic offering.Anyone bitching about ad hominems and ball busting at this site needs their head examined.Talk about pussies!

 
At 10 April, 2010 12:03, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yo Arsehoolie,

I'm still waiting for you address Norm Mineta's fatally flawed time, shit-for-brains.

That's right, dipshit, just keep changing the subject and tossing your straw man arguments like a monkey tossing shit in his cage.

Let me guess, Arsehoolie, your mother is still trying to toilet train your sorry ass. Right?

 
At 10 April, 2010 13:46, Anonymous Troof Ninja said...

*drops down from rafters*

Arhoorie-san crying tears? Is dolt boy unable to take what he dish out daily? I guess panty shield can only hold so much sand in vagina before he start bleeding. Keep "honoring" your alleged friend's memory by going for personal attacks. Everyone here asshole. Big deal! But you are filthy scum for dishonoring real victims that way. I feel no shame pointing out how stoopid and inhuman you are. When you grow balls and decide tell everyone who you really are, then we see who really "yellow."

*leaps into shadows*

 
At 10 April, 2010 19:27, Anonymous gmiller said...

Anonymous said...

I'll reply to g miller's witty questions.
1) No.
2) No.
3) No.

10 April, 2010 03:44

Again, thank you for responding to my questions, witty or not. So if it is not too much trouble, could you provide a summary of what you believe happened on 911 or direct me to where you have summarized your belief.
Thank you.

 
At 10 April, 2010 19:53, Blogger GuitarBill said...

rmiller wrote, "...So if it is not too much trouble, could you provide a summary of what you believe happened on 911 or direct me to where you have summarized your belief."

*crickets*

 
At 11 April, 2010 12:55, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Norman Mineta's timeline?!? You can't even get past Norman Mineta's "10 miles out".You're the dim bulb who says he was "obviously talking about #93".Can you please elaborate on your claim that Mineta was referring to that plane.You're the schnook who dug this hole,quit blaming me!! For 50 bonus points:how far is Shanksville from D.C.? Keep trying,jackoff.

 
At 11 April, 2010 13:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Norman Mineta's timeline?!? You can't even get past Norman Mineta's '10 miles out'."

What good is his ten minutes out claim, when he also mistakenly claimed that the airports had grounded all flights before the North Tower was hit?

So let us know when you master reading that clock thingy and "matriculate" from grade school, Arsehoolie.

 
At 11 April, 2010 13:46, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Are you smoking a glass pipe this afternoon,dumbass? It's "ten miles out" not "ten minutes out".Fold your tent,smack your wife and admit it: you are too addled to deal with this situation.You're copping out already.Skedaddling away from your argument is no way to represent the Debunker Cult.What happened Chief? Remember doofus,you were the one who said he was OBVIOUSLY talking about #93.Not me.And surely not Dylan Avery.

 
At 11 April, 2010 14:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber cretin scribbles, "...Are you smoking a glass pipe this afternoon,dumbass?"

No, I don't do drugs. And don't you think you should ask yourself that question?

"...It's "ten miles out" not "ten minutes out".Fold your tent,smack your wife and admit it: you are too addled to deal with this situation."

Who cares? After all, you're still full-of-shit. So when will YOU address Mineta's fatally flawed time line, Mr. Chickenshit?

And perhaps you can tell us why over 20 eyewitnesses contradicted Mineta's version of the story, which was precisely why Mineta's testimony was excluded from the 9/11 Report?

Are you trying to tell me that Mineta's flawed time line trumps 20 eyewitnesses whose testimony was included in the 9/11 Report?

I'm sure glad you're not a prosecutor, because you'd set a new lows in "standards of evidence" (Can you say "Kangaroo Court"?).

%^)

"...Fold your tent,smack your wife and admit it: you are too addled to deal with this situation.You're copping out already."

Really? No kidding?

Then perhaps you can explain why Mineta claimed that all flights were "grounded" BEFORE the North Tower was hit?

*crickets*

*crickets*

"...Skedaddling away from your argument is no way to represent the Debunker Cult."

Really? No kidding?

Then why do YOU REFUSE to address Mineta's fatally flawed time line?

Come on, give it a whack, Mr. Intellectual honesty.

"...Remember doofus,you were the one who said he was OBVIOUSLY talking about #93."

No, that's not what I said, Mister Straw Man Argument. But then again, you'd lie to your mother (or about her, depending on the situation, and assuming that you're not a botched slime mold experiment) if you though you could benefit from the lie.

Care to impress us again with the breadth and depth of your dishonesty, Pinocchio?

 
At 11 April, 2010 14:34, Blogger Billman said...

I'm sorry GuitarBill, heh, I mean no offense, but you and Arhoolie going back and forth makes me laugh. Quite entertaining. Maybe its just me, but Arhoolie seems capable of having a normal conversation. He just chooses to troll instead. Too bad.

 
At 11 April, 2010 14:41, Blogger Billman said...

I don't think Dylan's ever owned up to anything that's been implied in his films. It's really quite insidious, actually. He has shifted the blame for the content of his films to Jason Bermas, Korey, Alex, etc... but the only things I've ever heard him actually say is that he believes there was a controlled demolition, and that that one guy knowingly sent his son to die on flight 77 (I'm probably missing a couple of other blatant things he said). He's basically been vague and loaded his films with implications that lead others (the trooftards who buy his junk) to be the ones who outright state the insane theories, while he hides behind "I'm just asking questions."

 
At 11 April, 2010 14:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Billman wrote, "...I'm sorry GuitarBill, heh, I mean no offense, but you and Arhoolie going back and forth makes me laugh."

Not a problem, Bill. After all, I'm always happy to make someone laugh.

"...Maybe its just me, but Arhoolie seems capable of having a normal conversation."

Isn't that akin to claiming that a certified moron can do the Calculus?

%^)

 
At 11 April, 2010 23:33, Blogger ewingsc said...

boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlqhMjsuuKk

 
At 12 April, 2010 14:55, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

Oh yes,that's exactly what you did say,Captain Caffeine.Go ahead,post your screed again so's you can prove me wrong.You said that Mineta was obviously talking about #93 when he referred to a plane being spoken of (by Cheney and an aide) as "...10 miles out".Tiger,you've been had. Now go get some granola,and make sure you leave the seat down,whipping boy!

 
At 12 April, 2010 19:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

That's right Arsehoolie the cyber cretin, just keep spewing the straw man arguments (don't worry folks, Arsehoolie has no idea what a straw man argument is, which is why he constantly resorts to them--he's brain dead and intellectually dishonest).

So, when will YOU address Mineta's fatally flawed time line, shit-for-brains?

Why would anyone believe Mineta when he tried to claim that all flights were "grounded" BEFORE the aircraft struck the North Tower?

Does Mineta have a crystal ball? Or are you lying and avoiding the substance of my argument again, shit-for-brains?

Areshoolie's response, you ask?

*crickets*

(Lies about my alleged "marriage problems")

*crickets*

(More lies about my alleged "marriage problems")

*crickets*

%^)

 
At 13 April, 2010 13:47, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

"Why would anyone believe..."?!?!? is this guy a certifiable spineless jellyfish or what? It was YOU,you wife beating Yuppie crack smoker,who said that Mineta was referring to #93.You've lost it Hector,and I ain't wasting time I could be spending kicking PornBoy's butt on this any more."...8,9,10,out"

 
At 13 April, 2010 14:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie the cyber dumb ox whines, ""..."Why would anyone believe..."?!?!? is this guy a certifiable spineless jellyfish or what? It was YOU,you wife beating Yuppie crack smoker,who said that Mineta was referring to #93.You've lost it Hector,and I ain't wasting time I could be spending kicking PornBoy's butt on this any more."...8,9,10,out""

Inoming. Birdbrain at 12 o'clock high.

 
At 13 April, 2010 23:23, Blogger ewingsc said...

Please take each of those *crickets* and slowly force each one of them up your own ass, GuitarBill.

Thanks.

And why ?

Because of this :

watch?v=DlqhMjsuuKk

You mean, lying, brainwashed old -fuck-

 
At 14 April, 2010 10:53, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Still trying to pass off that fraudulent video as "truth", conspiratard?

Playing a video in reverse-mode in order to trick people into falling for your "controlled demolition" lie is intellectually dishonest, ewingsc.

Try playing the video in forward-mode, you con artist.

Is there no lie that's beneath the "9/11 truth movement"?

 
At 14 April, 2010 11:57, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

This from a guy who is presently involved in a strenuous and wacky attempt to prove that Israel has no nuclear weapons.Really.I'm serious.How much you want to bet that GuitarShrill's the next Debunker Cult Boob to get arrested at his child's softball or soccer game for finally losing it completely? My money is on the Fat Arrogant Yuppie dropping names over by the bar.But he insists that he doesn't use drugs!!!!

 
At 14 April, 2010 12:11, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Arsehoolie, please sit down and give your "mind" a rest. 'mkay?

 
At 15 April, 2010 15:36, Anonymous Arhoolie the Cyber-Hero said...

The only guitar player who's into "Train" and Texas-style fiddle that don't smoke weed? I doubt it DogBoy!

 

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