Sunday, July 25, 2010

Boloboffin Still Doing A Great Job

Over at AE911Truth.info. He takes on Dwain Deets's 7 Problems with Building 7 here. Just keep browsing, plenty of good debunking of Gage's gaggle.

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At 25 July, 2010 16:48, Anonymous Marc said...

And 5...4...3...2...1....

 
At 25 July, 2010 17:04, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boloboffin makes very good vids for those of us , who live in the reality based world . Which of course leaves the troofers out in the cold .

 
At 26 July, 2010 09:29, Anonymous Pat your Bulbous Hero said...

"Grab your ankles..." -GutBalls

"You lose because you refuse to answer my questions..." -GutBalls

"...jizzmop...psychopath..." -GutBalls

[Whining to Pat] "Why put up with this bullshit?...Kindly address the "sock puppet" issue."-GutBalls

Proof that it's possible to be a pussy AND a douche at the same time. Maybe GutBile is a scientist after all...

 
At 26 July, 2010 09:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Trolling again, shit-for-brains?

 
At 26 July, 2010 09:48, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"You lose because you refuse to answer my questions..." -GutBalls

Well No, you lose because you still have questions about an event that a child could understand.

Yes child, building do fail because of fire. And maybe someday you may grow enough of a brain and these stupid questions will disappear.

Now run along and play in the sandbox with the rest of the truthers while us grown-ups do big people stuff.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:17, Anonymous Marc said...

Hey I have questions too:

1. Why were no IBM typewriters in either of the Twin Towers on the morning of the attacks? What did the IMB people know?

2. There had to be at least a ton of ground coffe within the WTC complex, yet no coffe residue was found by the R Lee report guys. Where did all of that coffe go? Is that where they hid the nano-thermite? Shit, this doesn't even take in the decaf.

3. In spite of the impacts upon both towers, the Muzac continued to play right up to the final collapse. Muzac is elevator music, so if the elevator music was still working then this means (by troofer logic anyway) that the elevators themselves must have been working. Maybe the explosives were sent up into the towers on those working elevators, probably by Mossad agents or just really sneaky Jews.

4.Does the government really expect me to believe that the NYFD didn't have one ladder that could reach the roofs of the WTC? They must have hidden it next to those silent anti-aircraft batteries next to the Pentagon.

5. WTC7 fell at free-fall speed, which means that the government had somehow affected gravity, so why didn't any of those jumpers fall up? Or did certain jumpers float to the ground and walk away because they were Mossad demo guys? We never saw all the bodies did we?

6. Osama bin Laden and Karl Rove have never been seen on the same room together, why?

7. 1 WTC had a huge no-parking zone in the front, large enough for multiple fire trucks. It's almost like they were expecting trouble, yet the 9/11 Commission never addressed this.

8.9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerry was a Navy SEAL in Vietnam, but he never set aside time during the hearing to tell cool Navy SEAL Vietnam stories. Why is this? Also he has the same last name as Jon Kerry, who is also a Senator, and Vietnam vet who was also on small boats on the Mekong Delta.Wierd, huh? If there were ever two guys who could have staged the Gulf of Tonkin raid ('cuz in the troofer world this is somehow relevant to 9/11)it's the Kerry non-brothers. Yet Bush remained silent on this issue. Why?

9. The real Spiderman was killed in Kosovo in 1999, probably by Jews. This is why the attacks were successful. Did the government get Spiderman out of the way?

10. I have never been to New York, and never went to or into the Twin Towers or WTC7, but I have seen maps and plenty of pictures. This plus I do my own plumbing repairs makes me some kind of expert on engineering. Still nobody takes me seriously. WHY? Why am I suppressed? WHY?

See...I have questions too...sure they come out of my ass but at least I am aware of this.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:17, Anonymous Marc said...

Hey I have questions too:

1. Why were no IBM typewriters in either of the Twin Towers on the morning of the attacks? What did the IMB people know?

2. There had to be at least a ton of ground coffe within the WTC complex, yet no coffe residue was found by the R Lee report guys. Where did all of that coffe go? Is that where they hid the nano-thermite? Shit, this doesn't even take in the decaf.

3. In spite of the impacts upon both towers, the Muzac continued to play right up to the final collapse. Muzac is elevator music, so if the elevator music was still working then this means (by troofer logic anyway) that the elevators themselves must have been working. Maybe the explosives were sent up into the towers on those working elevators, probably by Mossad agents or just really sneaky Jews.

4.Does the government really expect me to believe that the NYFD didn't have one ladder that could reach the roofs of the WTC? They must have hidden it next to those silent anti-aircraft batteries next to the Pentagon.

5. WTC7 fell at free-fall speed, which means that the government had somehow affected gravity, so why didn't any of those jumpers fall up? Or did certain jumpers float to the ground and walk away because they were Mossad demo guys? We never saw all the bodies did we?

6. Osama bin Laden and Karl Rove have never been seen on the same room together, why?

7. 1 WTC had a huge no-parking zone in the front, large enough for multiple fire trucks. It's almost like they were expecting trouble, yet the 9/11 Commission never addressed this.

8.9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerry was a Navy SEAL in Vietnam, but he never set aside time during the hearing to tell cool Navy SEAL Vietnam stories. Why is this? Also he has the same last name as Jon Kerry, who is also a Senator, and Vietnam vet who was also on small boats on the Mekong Delta.Wierd, huh? If there were ever two guys who could have staged the Gulf of Tonkin raid ('cuz in the troofer world this is somehow relevant to 9/11)it's the Kerry non-brothers. Yet Bush remained silent on this issue. Why?

9. The real Spiderman was killed in Kosovo in 1999, probably by Jews. This is why the attacks were successful. Did the government get Spiderman out of the way?

10. I have never been to New York, and never went to or into the Twin Towers or WTC7, but I have seen maps and plenty of pictures. This plus I do my own plumbing repairs makes me some kind of expert on engineering. Still nobody takes me seriously. WHY? Why am I suppressed? WHY?

See...I have questions too...sure they come out of my ass but at least I am aware of this.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:37, Anonymous ClottedBile said...

Hey Marc,
Pat finds your post concise and hilarious. He also appreciates that you spammed the board twice with it, so he could laugh even longer. Good thing you put in so much effort, because you contribute a lot to the discussion. Every time.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:41, Anonymous Pat Loves Marc's Jokes said...

"In spite of the impacts upon both towers, the Muzac continued to play right up to the final collapse. "

"There had to be at least a ton of ground coffe (SIC) within the WTC complex, yet no coffe (SIC)residue was found by the R Lee report guys." -MARC

Pat agrees that it's REALLY funny to joke about terrorist attacks. Make some more jokes about mass murder, Marc.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:50, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Now run along and play in the sandbox with the rest of the truthers while us grown-ups do big people stuff."

Just be careful the cat doesn't try to cover you up.

 
At 26 July, 2010 12:51, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Pat agrees that it's REALLY funny to joke about terrorist attacks. Make some more jokes about mass murder, Marc."

You miss a lot, don't you, you retarded marmoset?

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:36, Anonymous troyfromwv said...

As if the kook really cares about the deaths of 3000.

Kookboy won't admit it, but he would love for there to be another attack in America. It would be a dream come true. The more deaths, the better.

I know this, kookboy knows this.

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:37, Anonymous Pat Jokes About 9/11 said...

""Brian", shove your "wambulance" up your ass." -UtterBilge

Translation: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! I'm a scientist!!!!!!!!!

What a complete pussy...At least Lazarus Long is here to say clever and original things. Pat clearly learns a lot from him.

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:41, Anonymous Troy is a true scholar said...

I know this, kookboy knows this. -ToyInPat'sVagina

Tell us more, Troy. You're clearly Pat's go-to person for hard-hitting, in-depth analysis, and serious people take you seriously. Please continue. The internet can't wait.

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:45, Anonymous troyfromwv said...

"patriots" such as you, kookboy, and Alex Jones want another attack on America. Preferably a larger one with many more casualties than than those of 9/11.

Misery does love company.

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:53, Anonymous Troy does WV proud said...

" "Patriots"...want another attack on America." -ToyinPatsVagina

...and per the standard exemplified by Pat and GutterBilge, we can assume that the source for your 'research' is your ugly obese ass, right Troy? When's the last time anyone took you seriously, you fat clown? Go take some pills, IED.

 
At 26 July, 2010 13:55, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know I'm right, kookboy.

 
At 26 July, 2010 14:04, Anonymous Troy the Cellblock Bitch said...

Troy's Cited Scholarly Source: 'you know I'm right...'.

That sounds about right for SLC:

GuitarBill's source: 'I'm a scientist!'

Pat's source: 'I'm a big guy' / 'I'll punch Griffin in the face!1!'

Troy hasn't been the same since he was turned out in prison...'grab your ankles' indeed, huh Troy? You know I'm right...

 
At 26 July, 2010 14:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

What's the matter, bitch? Are you still smarting from the ass kicking I gave you back in the "Good Article on Conspiracy Theories" thread?

You have the right to be my bitch.

 
At 26 July, 2010 14:55, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Yo Psychopath! If you say "pretty please" maybe Dwain Deets will let you suck his dick.

 
At 26 July, 2010 15:05, Anonymous Pat Giggles with You said...

"maybe Dwain Deets will let you suck his dick." -GutterBilge

Pat and his gay jokes again...sigh...

"...the ass kicking I gave you..."

Comedy gold. Better save some of that pumice, GutterBile: your hands are calloused from grasping at straws.

 
At 26 July, 2010 15:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Really? No kidding?

I guess that explains why you tried to change the subject after I kicked your sorry ass.

Pathetic.

You have the right to be my bitch.

 
At 26 July, 2010 16:21, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Mark Fuckin' Lane.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 
At 26 July, 2010 17:25, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath whines, "...Proof that it's possible to be a pussy AND a douche at the same time. Maybe GutBile is a scientist after all..."

I suppose that's why I handed your head to you again, right psychopath?

Now, go play in the freeway, psychopath.

 
At 26 July, 2010 19:17, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Pat agrees that it's REALLY funny to joke about terrorist attacks."

The joke is not about the attack but the about foolish little people of lower than normal intelligence who still have questions as to who did the attacks on 9/11. It along the same line as those who still question the Moon landing and who shot JFK.

It funny that we still have people so devoid of critical thinking skills they buy a conspiracy scam like 'inside job" It's sad in a way, imaging being the brunt of the joke in every social circle. Imaging having to be a Brian Good, your typical truther, destitute of skills, education and double digest IQ.

Imagine having nothing to do but be the class clown by going to debunking site to be punked and abused be people far superior to yourself?

Imagine NOT having the inborn intelligence to get Marc's joke about people who have questions?

See I have questions too. If truthers are so informed and enlightened about 9/11, why do they have so many questions?

 
At 26 July, 2010 19:54, Anonymous Marc said...

Sorry about the double post. Google moves in mysterious ways.

I would add that the 9/11 Troofers make a joke out of mass murder every time they open their mouths.

 
At 26 July, 2010 22:58, Anonymous Jay said...

I used to enjoy coming here, but with all the cursing and shouting from both sides all the time in the comment sections i think its time to stop coming here.

 
At 27 July, 2010 00:21, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want some cheese with that whine, jay?

 
At 27 July, 2010 02:08, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

Hey, Walt, can you explain the following?:

In this thread you said you were in the UK from 1995 (New Cross 'for a few months', and also West Ealing and Southport):

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=27396589&postID=5971462750759912988&page=1&token=1274392183760_AIe9_BHiNymD3_kblnhC8Xiv9cr_F44oGU6jw2YvL45khEyc_0aCyPydfKlqm5hDZy3t3g7Aywkvz8tlG4N9CvxiVUiIXJ75TOK38W4tmXNtjSl8tLyantvrVLqs7o7V_fMe79zN5kl6QQskMgqS73nld79GOeCqUvuQHvYmB8V3p_zUqHXcAOpfdtVvlj4HLrcU2yaUMf4CVgFVW626yHErXrdxVeTGBz6Jy-T18-2IvqTJlFcAhlgoP9Os63z_LvF8g9vC6xXA

But in this more recent one you say you lived in 'England' between 1997-1999, with only three short visits to the country beforehand:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=27396589&postID=3496261033792701968

Which version of this story is true?

 
At 27 July, 2010 02:12, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

In this version, Walt, you were with a girlfriend who was a dancing student, who's also 'the mother of our two children':

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=27396589&postID=5971462750759912988&page=1&token=1274392183760_AIe9_BHiNymD3_kblnhC8Xiv9cr_F44oGU6jw2YvL45khEyc_0aCyPydfKlqm5hDZy3t3g7Aywkvz8tlG4N9CvxiVUiIXJ75TOK38W4tmXNtjSl8tLyantvrVLqs7o7V_fMe79zN5kl6QQskMgqS73nld79GOeCqUvuQHvYmB8V3p_zUqHXcAOpfdtVvlj4HLrcU2yaUMf4CVgFVW626yHErXrdxVeTGBz6Jy-T18-2IvqTJlFcAhlgoP9Os63z_LvF8g9vC6xXA

But this thread, you refer to your 'wife', and call Ms Dancing Girl an 'ex':

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=27396589&postID=3496261033792701968

Which of these stories is true, Walt?

 
At 27 July, 2010 02:23, Blogger hauptcouture2009 said...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_99g-hz3operper

 
At 27 July, 2010 04:00, Anonymous Anonymous said...

An actor trying to debunk a bunch of architects and engineers. I've seen it all now....

 
At 27 July, 2010 06:51, Anonymous Pat Thinks You're Stupid said...

GutBile thinks his word is more reliable than that of the R.J. Lee group, who actually tested samples of the dust, and found the iron had melted in the WTC event. The fly ash trope seems to have originated at JREF, and persists through hopeful speculation and whining denial. Now gutbile thinks it explains both the spheres and the chips. Real scientists have tested the dust, and have reported their findings accordingly. Pat hopes you believe gutballs.

 
At 27 July, 2010 08:40, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...GutBile thinks his word is more reliable than that of the R.J. Lee group, who actually tested samples of the dust, and found the iron had melted in the WTC event."

Wrong! The RJ Lee Report did not prove that iron melted as the result of "the WTC event."

As I pointed out earlier, there is plenty of evidence that the materials found in the dust, Fly ash and Pumice, were subjected to extremely high temperatures at some time, but not on 9/11. For example, fly ash is the product of coal fired power plants and pumice is the product of super-heated volcanic eruptions.

When I challenged you to show me where the RJ Lee Report mentions the temperature range that is necessary to produce the observed phenomenon, you balked. Moreover, the report tells us absolutely nothing about where we might find those temperatures during the event.

In fact, the RJ Lee Report doesn't provide evidence that Fly ash and Pumice were subjected to extremely high temperatures at any other time than when they were produced.

FACT: You can lie about the RJ Lee Report until you're blue in the face, but you can't produce one word from the report that supports your propaganda.

Brian Good prevaricates, "...Real scientists have tested the dust, and have reported their findings accordingly."

Excuse me, charlatan, a computer scientist is a scientist--your idiotic babbling and lying to the contrary notwithstanding. Furthermore, the "real scientists" you mention are troofers with a hidden political agenda. Their bias DRIPS from every paper they've written on this subject. Additionally, Jones' paper titled, Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe, was never submitted to the scientific or the engineering community. The paper was not properly peer reviewed. Jones submitted his paper to biased troofers--Harrit, Legge, Ryan, Farrer, etc.--and fraudulently referred to this as silliness as a "peer review process." Put simply, this is not a "peer review process", it's a circle jerk.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 08:50, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Jay wrote, "...I used to enjoy coming here, but with all the cursing and shouting from both sides all the time in the comment sections i think its time to stop coming here."

Jay is right, and I can sympathize with his objections. However, it's important to understand that we're dealing with Brian Good, a "man" who can only be described as a pathological liar. Hopefully, you'll understand the frustration that's bound to occur when dealing with a pathological liar.

 
At 27 July, 2010 08:55, Anonymous Pat's Scat is your Hat said...

Real scientists don't cite themselves as sources, goatboy. Go ahead & talk about pumice and incinerators all you want (how hot does an incinerator get, anyway?), but you've never tested the dust, so all you have is speculation and a lot of whining. Not a single scientist who has worked with the dust has proposed fly ash as the origin of the melted iron. Real researchers find this obvious, and it's fun to watch you flop and squirm to avoid it.

Result: Another spectacular failure for GoatBile, personally and as a "scientist".

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:05, Anonymous Pat believes GBill? said...

"the "real scientists" you mention are troofers with a hidden political agenda. " -GoatBile

So now the R.J. Lee group are 'troofers'. Ask Pat if he agrees with you, champ.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath prevaricates, "...Go ahead & talk about pumice and incinerators all you want (how hot does an incinerator get, anyway?), but you've never tested the dust, so all you have is speculation and a lot of whining."

Temperature of 1536 degrees C are not necessary to produce iron-rich spheres. As I've already proven, the particles found in Jones' samples are produced by incinerators that never reach temperatures in excess of 1000 degrees C. That said, spheres are produced at temperatures ranging between 600 and 1000 degrees C, which is within the temperature range produced by the WTC office fire. A waste incinerator, moreover, if subjected to 1536 degrees C will melt. Remember, and incinerator is usually made of carbon steel.

"...Not a single scientist who has worked with the dust has proposed fly ash as the origin of the melted iron."

That's a bald faced lie. Frank Greening isn't a "real scientist"?

You're an idiot, Brian, not to mention a pathological lair.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The pathological liar whines, "...So now the R.J. Lee group are 'troofers'. Ask Pat if he agrees with you, champ."

That's right, Brian, tell the same lies over-and-over again. The fact remains that when challenged to produce evidence from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your propaganda, you utterly fail.

Do you ever tell the truth, scumbag?

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And remember, Brian, as long as Jones' iron-rich spheres contain K, Si and Ca, they are not the byproduct of a thermitic reaction. (see page 19 of Jones' paper, figure 16).

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:22, Anonymous GB the Spastic Lunatic said...

"...when challenged to produce evidence..." -GoatBoy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Guitar Fuckin' Bile...

R.J. Lee works with the dust and publishes their findings, but GoatBoy 'produces' better evidence without touching or even looking at it. Yeah Bile, we trust you.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath prevaricates, "...R.J. Lee works with the dust and publishes their findings, but GoatBoy 'produces' better evidence without touching or even looking at it. Yeah Bile, we trust you."

Another bald-faced lie.

I read the report and it doesn't support your propaganda, which explains why you can't produce one word that substantiates your argument.

What's this, Brian?

Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

Go for it, Brian, lie to us again.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:44, Anonymous Pat is embarrased 4 U said...

"Another bald-faced lie." -GoatBuffoon

You're right: you haven't produced any evidence whatsoever.

"What's this, Brian?" -GoatBoy (addressing his imaginary nemesis)

It's something that doesn't even mention the WTC event, nor how melted iron got into the the Dust. The R.J. Lee Report does exactly that. Stop humiliating yourself...or don't, since it's hilarious to watch.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Tell us, Brian, doesn't the Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator paper I produced prove that incinerators produce the same results, and yield spheres at 600 to 1000 degrees C? Doesn't the paper prove that spherical particles are an expected byproduct of an incinerator, as well. The spherical particles range in size from ~50 um to 10 nm. The incinerator was fed with wood, paper or municipal waste. In other words, the incinerator was fed with material one would expect to find in any building, including the World Trade Center Towers.

So, who are you trying to fool, Brian?

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:55, Anonymous Pat is Facepalming 4 U said...

"Tell us, Brian, ..."
-GoatBile

Translation: Believe my speculation, and not the scientists who published a report after working with the WTC dust firsthand. PUUHHLEEEAAASE!! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!!! I'm a scientist!!!!WAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

Seems like a popular habit at JREF too...

 
At 27 July, 2010 09:59, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

Gag the Nutty Professor with a shot glass,will you? Ban him,anything!!! He's really hurting my feelings!

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:15, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Clearly, you didn't read the pdf file I produced. Well, you're going to read it, scumbag.

From the paper, titled Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator, we find the following:

"...Combustion residues collected at different sites in the incinerator were different in term of size, composition, and morphology. This was due to ash formation processes (chemical
reaction, coagulation, chain agglomeration, condensation) as well as the transportation of
entrained fly ash with gas stream.

"Superheater deposits consisted mainly of spherical particles that have diameters ranging from 10 µm -60 µm. Common constituents were Ca, Si, Al, Fe and Zn.

"Particles in the heat exchanger ash and economiser ash were mostly entrained coarse fly ash. Larger and lighter particles were found more in economiser ash."


Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

Wikipedia wrote, "...According to the European Waste Incineration Directive, incineration plants must be designed to ensure that the flue gases reach a temperature of at least 850 °C (1,560 °F) for 2 seconds in order to ensure proper breakdown of toxic organic substances."

Source: Wikipedia: Incineration.

The psychopath dissembles, "...It's something that doesn't even mention the WTC event, nor how melted iron got into the the Dust."

It's not looking good for you, Brian. In fact, I've proven that you're a liar again. If you'd had taken the time to read the paper, you'd know that the paper proves that elemental Fe is a byproduct of incineration--and incineration temperatures in excess of 1000 degrees C ARE NOT NECESSARY TO PRODUCE THE RESULTING SPHERES.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Believe my speculation, and not the scientists who published a report after working with the WTC dust firsthand."

Sorry, but my last post proves that you're lying.

You can run, Brian, but you can't hide.

Now, tell us that the paper I produced doesn't make minced meat of Jones' idotic argument.

The fact is that a temperature of 1536 degrees C is not necessary to produce iron-rich spheres. Temperatures in the range of 600 to 1000 degrees C are more than sufficient to produce the spheres. Thus, Jones et al are in error--lying.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:33, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Concerning the temperatures that a required to incinerate waste, we find the following:

"...Temperature Range. In full operation, the temperatures in the combustion chamber range from 1,400°F to a maximum of 2,000°F. All combustible materials and
odorous gases are consumed at an optimum temperature of 1,600°F. Prolonged higher temperatures damage refractories and castings. Fluctuations in temperatures cause
the cement joints between the firebricks to break down, allowing sections of refractory to fall out, especially in the arch and hanging walls."


Source: Incinerator Temperatures.

Check and mate.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:37, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And remember, Brian, that 1536 degrees C = 2796.8 degrees F.

Check and mate.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:38, Anonymous Pat Mocked Tillman said...

Funny how none of BillyGoatBoy's "sources" contains any references to the WTC dust. Why is that, GB? Why are you afraid of the facts? What are you trying to hide?

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:39, Anonymous Guitar Smashed Again said...

"Believe my speculation, and not the scientists who published a report after working with the WTC dust firsthand. OINK OINK OINK!!!!!" -BillyGoatBile

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And don't forget the following:

600 degrees C = 1112 degrees F.

1000 degrees C = 1832 degrees F.

Thus, an incinerator can produce iron-rich spheres at temperatures well below 1536 degrees C.

Check and mate.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 10:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath prevaricates, "...Funny how none of BillyGoatBoy's "sources" contains any references to the WTC dust."

It's doesn't have to refer to the WTC in order to prove that iron-rich spheres are produced at temperatures well below 1536 degrees C.

Face it, you've been punked again.

Why won't you admit, in the face of conclusive evidence, that Jones et al are LYING to you?

I guess pathological liars of a feather flock together.

Check and mate.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath prevaricates, "...Believe my speculation, and not the scientists who published a report after working with the WTC dust firsthand."

Again, the source of the dust is irrelevant--you stupid twat.

Read it again, until you get it through your thick skull: "...The fact is that a temperature of 1536 degrees C is not necessary to produce iron-rich spheres. Temperatures in the range of 600 to 1000 degrees C are more than sufficient to produce the spheres."

Check and mate.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:03, Anonymous GB Flopping & Flailing said...

"...iron-rich spheres are produced at temperatures well below 1536 degrees C..." -BillyGoatBoy

Translation: I'm speculating about the WTC dust again, and pretending that I never heard about the melted lead in it. But you have to believe me, because I use words like 'jizzmop' and 'psychopath'. I'm a SCIENTIST!

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:15, Blogger Joseph Nobles said...

"An actor trying to debunk a bunch of architects and engineers."

LOL! If that's the case, why did Richard Gage and the whole Hee-Haw gang get all of their material from a theologian, a water tester, a crank physicist, a high school physics teacher, three knuckleheads with an editing program, a Holocaust denier, and a software engineer?

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Translation: I'm speculating about the WTC dust again, and pretending that I never heard about the melted lead in it. But you have to believe me, because I use words like 'jizzmop' and 'psychopath'. I'm a SCIENTIST!"

Wrong again, cretin.

Read the paper until you get it through your thick skull.

"...FF ash : High concentration of Ca, S, K, Na, Zn, Pb, Cd, As and Cl"

"Metals showed different partitioning behaviors depending on their physical and chemical
properties. Less volatile elements (Al, Cu and Fe) were mostly found in the bottom ash while volatile elements (Cd, Pb and As) were enriched in fabric filter ash."


Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

So much for "pretending that I never heard about the melted lead in it."

Check and mate

Tell us, Brian, do you ever tell the truth? Have you ever taken the time to read ANY paper I present? (That's a rhetorical question--you twat. We know the answer is no).

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:33, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:42, Blogger GuitarBill said...

I checked the Merck Index, and the melting point of Pb is 327.5 degrees C, which equals 621.5 degrees F.

The last time I checked 327.5 degrees C is lower than 600 - 1000 degrees C.

So, what were you saying about "pretending that I never heard about the melted lead in it"?

Check and mate

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Now, go lick your wounds, Brian.

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:49, Anonymous Stop Whining Already said...

Yet again, GB whines while real scientists work with the WTC dust and publish entirely different conclusions.

GB = Speculation and guesswork.

Real Scientists = published findings from the dust itself.

Poor, pathetic BillyGoatBile...how long will he think you're idiotic enough to take his word over those who've worked with the dust?

 
At 27 July, 2010 11:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Speculation and guesswork."

So far, you haven't produced one scintilla of evidence to support your argument.

So, where's the evidence that proves the following peer reviewed paper is in error?

Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

So, what were you saying about "[s]peculation and guesswork"--you lying twat?

Obviously, you wouldn't know "[s]peculation and guesswork" if it jumped and and bit your @$$.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:02, Anonymous GB Vaporized Again said...

I meant vaporized lead, of course.

A real scientist would have known about this and addressed it, instead of just giggling. But we know what kind of Cry-entist you are.

Not a single report you point to refers to the WTC dust, therefore you have nothing but speculation and guesswork, as any competent reader can see. Ask James Bennett. He'll tell you the same thing.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:23, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath prevaricates, "...A real scientist would have known about this and addressed it, instead of just giggling. But we know what kind of Cry-entist [SIC] you are."

But that not what the RJ Lee Report says--you twat.

"...The amount of energy introduced during the generation of the WTC dust and the ensuing conflagration caused various components to vaporize. Vapor phase components with high boiling point and high melting point would have, as they cooled, tend to form precipitated particles or thin film deposits on available surfaces through condensation mechanisms. The result of this process would be the presence of a thin layer of deposited material on the surfaces of the dust particulate matter. Many of the materials, such as lead, cadmium, mercury and various organic compounds vaporized and then condensed during the WTC event."

The psychopath continues, "...therefore you have nothing but speculation and guesswork."

Really? Tell us about it, hypocrite. A peer reviewed paper is hardly "speculation and guesswork"--you lying sack of dog droppings.

SHOW ME WHERE THE RJ LEE REPORT ENDORSES JONES, ET AL? Otherwise YOU ARE SPECULATING AND RESORTING TO GUESSWORK.

Now, change the subject--you lying twat.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:30, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...The amount of energy introduced during the generation of the WTC dust and the ensuing conflagration caused various components to vaporize."-- The RJ Lee Report.

Keep reading that passage until you get it through your thick skull.

SHOW ME WHERE THE RJ LEE REPORT ENDORSES JONES, ET AL? Otherwise YOU ARE SPECULATING AND RESORTING TO GUESSWORK.

Now, hurry Brian, and change the subject.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:37, Anonymous GB Flops some More said...

"SHOW ME WHERE THE RJ LEE REPORT ENDORSES JONES, ET AL"? -GoatBile

Who's changing the subject, little boy? And bold type doesn't help your case at all, champ. You lost a long time ago, and thankfully, it's all here for everyone to see.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Who's changing the subject, little boy?"

I'm not changing the subject--you twat. That's another COP OUT on your part.

FACT: You claim that the RJ Lee Report endorses Jones et al. Well, I say you're a liar.

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

(He can't, so he'll change the subject, or falsely claim that I'm changing the subject).

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 12:52, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Particles of materials that had been modified by exposure to high temperature, such as spherical particles of iron and silicates, are common in WTC Dust because of the fire that accompanied the WTC Event, but are not common in 'normal' interior office dust." -- The RJ Lee Report.

That's funny, I don't see any reference to anything other than fire. Where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Put up, or shut up--you lying twat.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:00, Anonymous Readers of this Thread said...

Now that Bill was shown to be completely WRONG about the melted iron in the dust, he now endorses RJ Lee's findings, and has waffled & backed away from his precious fly ash nonsense.

This is what happens when someone can't cite sources effectively, can't formulate an argument, and bases their argument on speculation and whining: sooner or later, they grudgingly come around to the inconvenient facts... GB is no exception, no matter how much he protests. Goodnight, Bill.

NEXT!

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:01, Anonymous GB the Desperate Fool said...

BUT...BUT... It was the PUMICE!!! REALLY!!! PROVE ME WRONG!! PROVE ME WRONG!!!
-GoatTurd

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:02, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Who's changing the subject, little boy?"

Hypocrite! You brought up the The RJ Lee Report, not me--you lying twat.

So stuff the "[w]ho's changing the subject, little boy" evasion, scumbag.

Where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

You can't produce a passage that supports your hair-brained assertion?

Then STFU.

Once again, you're misrepresenting your source--you intellectually dishonest felcher.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:04, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Now that Bill was shown to be completely WRONG about the melted iron in the dust, he now endorses RJ Lee's findings, and has waffled & backed away from his precious fly ash nonsense."

Another bald-faced lie.

And as predicted, you're changing the subject.

Where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...BUT...BUT... It was the PUMICE!!! REALLY!!! PROVE ME WRONG!! PROVE ME WRONG!!!"

That's not an answer--you lying twat.

Show me where the following peer reviewed paper is in error.

Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

You can't produce a passage that supports your hair-brained assertion?

Then STFU.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...and has waffled & backed away from his precious fly ash nonsense."

I did no such thing--you lying twat.

Fire alone cannot account for 10,000 tons of sphere.

I proved that fire in the temperature range of 600 - 1000 degrees C can produce the iron-rich sphere. However, only the building's lightweight concrete can account for the majority of the iron-rich sphere found in the dust.

Now, stop misrepresenting my argument, and answer the questions.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:16, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:24, Blogger GuitarBill said...

What's that I hear coming from thr troofer camp?

*crickets*

*crickets*

*crickets*

I won't hold my breath waiting for your idiotic answers.

You're a fraud, charlatan and a pathological liar.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:27, Anonymous Pat's Pumice said...

"However, only the building's lightweight concrete can account for the majority of the iron-rich sphere found in the dust." -GoatBile

Another un-sourced, speculative whopper, contradicted by the Lee report. What's wrong with you, son?

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:35, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "Another un-sourced, speculative whopper, contradicted by the Lee report."

Wikipedia wrote, "...The floors consisted of 4 inches (10 cm) thick lightweight concrete slabs laid on a fluted steel deck."

Source: Wikipedia: World Trade Center--Structural design.

What were you saying about "[a]nother un-sourced, speculative whopper, contradicted by the Lee report"?

Thus, only the building's lightweight concrete can account for the majority of the iron-rich sphere found in the dust.

Now, cease the evasions and answer my questions--you lying twat.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:45, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Another un-sourced, speculative whopper, contradicted by the Lee report."

What's this--you lying twat?

"...Concrete is a construction material composed of cement (commonly Portland cement) and other cementitious materials such as fly ash and slag cement, aggregate (generally a coarse aggregate made of gravels or crushed rocks such as limestone, or granite, plus a fine aggregate such as sand), water, and chemical admixtures...A nearly inert material, concrete is suitable as a medium for recycling waste and industrial byproducts. Fly ash, slag and silica fume are used in making concrete, which helps reduce embodied energy, carbon footprint and quantity of landfill materials. The process of making cement also uses waste materials. Tires have high energy content and can supplement coal as fuel in the kiln. Industrial byproducts such as ash from coal combustion, fly ash from power stations as well as mill scale and foundry sand from steel casting provide the silica, calcium, alumina and iron needed for making cement."

Source: Wikipedia: Concrete.

"...What Is Quality Concrete? To fully appreciate the benefits of fly ash in concrete, the basics of producing exceptional concrete must be understood. Concrete is a composite material, which essentially consists of two components: aggregates and cementitious paste. To produce exceptional concrete, it is extremely important to have a smooth gradation of material from rock down to the finest particles (in other words, a good mix of particle sizes, so that the largest practicable rock fills the majority of the volume, while the progressively smaller rock and sand fill the voids left between the larger particles)."

Source: fly ash in concrete.

Now, cease the evasions and answer my questions--you lying twat.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:48, Blogger GuitarBill said...

What's that I hear coming from thr troofer camp?

*crickets*

*crickets*

*crickets*

I won't hold my breath waiting for your idiotic answers.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 13:51, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Another un-sourced, speculative whopper, contradicted by the Lee report."

Here's more proof that fly ash is used as aggregate in lightweight concrete:

Source: Google: fly ash used as aggregate in lightweight concrete.

That's 38,200 Google hits--you lying weasel.

Now, cease the evasions and answer my questions--you lying twat.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:05, Anonymous You're Spamming Now said...

You're just throwing shit up and hoping it'll stick now, GB. You haven't proven that the iron came from fly ash, even if there's iron in the concrete. You're not fooling anyone. Did you know that some idiot tried to claim that the iron came from human remains, since humans contain iron? That was on JREF, and now you're making the same mistakes.

At the risk of sounding like you, spamming the same shit forever: you have produced NOT A SINGLE SOURCE that points to concrete as the source of the melted iron. It's YOUR SPECULATION, JACKASS.

Spam all you want. Whine, waste space, and obfuscate with irrelevant facts, but you're way past any honest discussion of the evidence. Sad, really. (I'm a SCIENTIST!!!!!!)

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:13, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Bullshit!

That's not an answer.

The majority of the building's concrete was pulverized, as troofers constantly point out to anyone who will listen.

Are you retracting that claim now, cretin?

I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

So, far you've refused to answer one of my questions; thus, you lose the debate because you refuse to answer my questions. What are you hiding--you lying twat?

Hurry, Brian, change the subject.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:18, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Did you know that some idiot tried to claim that the iron came from human remains, since humans contain iron? That was on JREF, and now you're making the same mistakes."

I never made that claim--you lying twat. And I'm not "spamming", I'm burying you with the facts.

Talk about pulling stuff out of your @$$.

You're "argument" would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

Tell us, have you ever told the truth in your miserable life?

Now, cease the evasions and answer my questions--you lying twat.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:23, Anonymous Guitar Spintered said...

"you lose the debate because you refuse to answer my questions."

"I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?" -GuitoadBoy

You retreated to the EXACT same words & tactics the last time your ass was handed to you. And here's a hint: It's not a question just because you put a question mark at the end, genius.

"The iron came from fly ash, even though I have no source for this, and the Lee report says otherwise. Listen to me, not the experts. I'm a SCIENTIST. Really I am!"
-GoatBile the Pathetic

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:30, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...You retreated to the EXACT same words & tactics the last time your ass was handed to you. And here's a hint: It's not a question just because you put a question mark at the end, genius."

Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back--you delusional little weasel.

That is the most absurd statement I've ever read.

You've never handed anyone his @$$. That statement is the product of your boundless intellectual dishonesty.

Now, answer the questions.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Come on, Brian, impress us again with the breadth and depth of your boundless intellectual dishonesty.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

And don't you dare try to claim that Jones didn't say that ~3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" was necessary to demolish the WTC towers.

Steven Jones wrote, "...Scaling to the 110 story WTC towers, roughly 1300 lbs [590 kg] of explosives per tower would suffice."

Source: journalof911studies.com: Why did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?

Listen to the following interview, and tell me that Jones didn't make the 3,000 lbs. of "nanothermite" claim.

Source: YouTube: LESLIE ROBERTSON AND STEVEN JONES DEBATE PT1.

Source: YouTube: LESLIE ROBERTSON AND STEVEN JONES DEBATE PT2.

Source: YouTube: LESLIE ROBERTSON AND STEVEN JONES DEBATE PT3.

That's two sources for Jones' claim that ~3,000 lbs. "would suffice."

Now, answer the questions.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

Come on, Brian, lie again--you twat.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:47, Blogger GuitarBill said...

What's that I hear coming from thr troofer camp?

*crickets*

*crickets*

*crickets*

Again, I won't hold my breath waiting for your 100% fact-free non-answers.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:54, Anonymous Rational Adults said...

You sure waste a lot of space when you're wrong.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:55, Anonymous Lest we Forget... said...

GB = Speculation and guesswork.

Real Scientists = published findings from the dust itself.

 
At 27 July, 2010 14:57, Anonymous Pat's Guilty Conscience said...

"FACT: You claim that the RJ Lee Report endorses Jones et al. "

Provide a source for this or retract the statement, liar.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:00, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath's sock puppet scribbles, "...You sure waste a lot of space when you're wrong."

Another 100% fact-free non-response, douche bag?

Pathetic.

If I'm "wrong", you've offered absolutely nothing to substantiate your 100% fact-free claim.

So, when will you answer my questions, weasel?

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin.


Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:07, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Provide a source for this or retract the statement, liar."

Right here, douche bag.

Now, tell us that you didn't cite Jones as an authority.

Face it, you're being bitch slapped from one end of this blog to the other. And all you offer are 100% fact-free non-responses and opinion. Hypocrite.

So, when will you answer my questions, weasel?

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:11, Anonymous GB: Swing and a Miss said...

That wasn't me, douchebag. Try again.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:17, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath's sock puppet dissembles, "...That wasn't me, douchebag. Try again."

That's not an answer, douche bag.

So, what Brian's response?

You guessed it.

*crickets*

*crickets*

*crickets*

Again, answer my questions, or you lose the debate by default.

Again, where does the RJ Lee Report suggest that something other than fire produced the spheres? Where does the RJ Lee Report endorse Jones et al?

Produce a passage from the RJ Lee Report that substantiates your assertion, or go play in the freeway.

And when you're finished answering my questions (don't hold your breath), I want you to explain how 3,000 lbs of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin
.

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:20, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Do you honestly believe that anyone finds the 100% fact-free STONEWALLING tactics you offer as "debate" convincing?

You lose, Barney Fife.

Isn't that your live-in mommy calling you to dinner, Brian?

Conclusion: Another epic failure for the 9/11 troofers.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:23, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Bill, I think you take Brian or who ever this loser is far to seriously. Remember he IS a truther and in being so one of the lower forms of life on the planet. He is something to be pitied if you think it is necessary to feel sorry for people who by accident of birth are lower on the evolutionary tree.

The conspiracy theorist types live in a world where everyone around them is brighter, more talented and more sophisticated and cultured, and because of this more socially accepted. The Brian Good types have to live in their knuckle dragging existence pretending to be heros to the truth because they have nothing else to be proud of, no life beyond the falsehood they latched onto, No accomplishments. Just the dally grind of slinging mud and hoping something sticks.

A guy like Brian can die tomorrow and no one would care, in fact the world would be a sightly better place for it.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:29, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Dave wrote, "...A guy like Brian can die tomorrow and no one would care, in fact the world would be a sightly better place for it."

Good point, Dave.

Trust me, I don't take him seriously. It's the never ending lies that bother me.

In fact, the freak threatened me last week and told me to meet him at a local Santa Clara Valley landmark; however, he failed to show up, which proves that he's coward.

Brian Good couldn't debate his way out a wet paper bag (and he couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag, either).

Plankton is higher on the food chain that Brian Good.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:33, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Correction.

"...Plankton is higher on the food chain than Brian Good."

My bad.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:33, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

"Jay said...
I used to enjoy coming here, but with all the cursing and shouting from both sides all the time in the comment sections i think its time to stop coming here."

Yes, the 9/11 truth thing is a dead issue. Not a lot to say, the truthers blew their wad and came up zero. as we said they would. The only ones left are the uber crazy losers who can't let go of the fact no one cares about what they say. they have to come here just be get any form of attention even if it is abuse, it is better than being completely ignored.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:43, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Brain Good is an invertebrate who can cross his ankle's behind his earlobes.

Squirm, Brian, squirm--you little weasel.

 
At 27 July, 2010 15:48, Blogger Dave Kyte said...

Brian Good and the rest of truther gang are only useful as an example of how not to live. Only interesting as subjects to ponder as to how did they get so fucked up?

I personally think it's a matter of some being less evolved than others. Some gene issue that makes some people natural born suckers. PT Barnum knew they were being born and in a way served a purpose as un-questioning followers to whatever bullshit they latch onto. What would DRG and Gage be without them? Nothing but a retired theologian and a third rate architect.

It allows guys like Brian to pretend he is a hero and not just a 50 something janitor living with mom and dad because he has nothing of value to offer society.

 
At 27 July, 2010 16:01, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Dave, he's sick. Mentally ill, to be precise.

Brian Good is a psychopath. And the pathological lying that DRIPS from every sentence he writes is proof positive of that assertion.

 
At 27 July, 2010 16:09, Blogger Billman said...

Daaaaamn, troofers! GuitarBill has owned your pathetic asses HARD!

And not one of you has yet to provide a rebuttal other than pathological lying. Typical worthless "troofers."

We've won, face it. Your lives as troofers were meaningless. Game over, bitches!

 
At 27 July, 2010 16:57, Anonymous Arhoolie V. said...

Up steps Bilbo to show what a pathetic schnook he is.You're an idiot,Dogboy.

 
At 27 July, 2010 17:05, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Steven Jones wrote, "...Scaling to the 110 story WTC towers, roughly 1300 lbs [590 kg] of explosives per tower would suffice."

Source: journalof911studies.com: Why did the World Trade Center Buildings Completely Collapse?

ArseHooligan, I want you to explain how ~3,000 lbs (or 3,900 lbs. of "nanothermite", depending on which lie Jones decides to tell this week) of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin.

And remember the law of conservation of mass, which states that mass cannot be created or destroyed.

Or better yet, simply admit that Steven Jones is a lair.

 
At 27 July, 2010 17:14, Anonymous Arhoolie the "Git" Smasher said...

Scientists disagree all the time,jerkoff.For you to say Jones is a liar explains everything about you,and nothing about Jones.Unleash your insane bloviations on the Gulf of Tonkin story,we need a laugh back here at home.I don't see you arranging to meet me anywhere.What gives,Dogboy?

 
At 27 July, 2010 17:22, Blogger GuitarBill said...

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At 27 July, 2010 17:26, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Thanks again for the 100% fact-free non-response.

This isn't about a "disagreement"--you fool. His theory violates the most elementary laws of physics.

Again, why not come clean and admit that Steven Jones is a liar?

Oh, that's right. A troofer would never let a little thing like the laws of physics get in the way of disseminating propaganda and bilge.

Sorry. My bad.

 
At 27 July, 2010 17:34, Blogger Billman said...

Awe.. get a load of poor Arhoolie,who has been crushed by the Troofer Cult's pathetic defeat by one single man,and now Walt is lashing out and whining that his cult's scientists aren't taken seriously. Hey, Areshooligan, maybe you could crack open a science book not written by mentally retarded liar sometime.

In the meantime, continue to cry with every pathetic comment you post here. We love enjoying your tears of defeat... *lapping them up.

 
At 27 July, 2010 21:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Pat,

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, dismisses 9/11 troof as "false" conspiracy.

By Matthew Bell, 19 July 2010.

"...His obsession with secrecy, both in others and maintaining his own, lends him the air of a conspiracy theorist. Is he one? 'I believe in facts about conspiracies,' he says, choosing his words slowly. 'Any time people with power plan in secret, they are conducting a conspiracy. So there are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It's important not to confuse these two. Generally, when there's enough facts about a conspiracy we simply call this news.' What about 9/11? 'I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud.'"

Source: belfasttelegraph.co.uk: Wanted by the CIA: Julian Assange - Wikileaks founder.

That's right, folks, 9/11 troof was thrown under the bus by Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.

Cry me a river, troofers.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 
At 27 July, 2010 22:22, Anonymous Marc said...

So I just read the Lee report.

Is there a second Lee report because I don't see anything in it that is not consistant with the collapse of the WTC as a result of two plane-strikes.

Anonipuss is getting worked up over nothing. He keeps extolling the fact that the Lee report was put together by scientists (which is who you'd expect to put together a scientific report), yet none of the scientists see anything out of the ordinary with the contents of the dust. I was expecting commentary about anomolous findings, yet there are none to be found.

So Anonymouse thinks he is smarter than the guys who put together the Lee report, and this is hillarious.

 
At 28 July, 2010 06:50, Anonymous GuitarPumice Pummeled said...

What, no more jokes about mass murder from Marc?

How about gay jokes from Pat and GB?

RJ Lee said the iron in the dust was melted in the WTC event. They didn't say it came from concrete. GB seems to think there were volcanoes and incinerators at the WTC. RJ Lee actually worked with the dust. James Bennett hopes you agree with GoatBile.

 
At 28 July, 2010 06:52, Anonymous Pat is Inane-ster said...

cue long-winded, irrelevant post from GB in 3...2...1...

 
At 28 July, 2010 09:12, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...RJ Lee said the iron in the dust was melted in the WTC event. They didn't say it came from concrete. GB seems to think there were volcanoes and incinerators at the WTC."

I think that passage tells us all we need to know about the pathological liar, Brian Good.

Seek psychiatric intervention, Brian.

 
At 28 July, 2010 09:39, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"GuitarBill said...
Dave, he's sick. Mentally ill, to be precise."

My question is when are they they going to work Brian Good and assholio into a Criminal Minds episode.

 
At 28 July, 2010 10:16, Anonymous Arhoolie "Solitary" Vanunu said...

So,now we can expect the Insane Gitfiddler to be relying on Wikileaks' revelations for edification? Don't you think these things through before exploding out of your diapers?

 
At 28 July, 2010 11:34, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Arhoolie "Solitary" Vanunu said...
So,now we can expect the Insane Gitfiddler to be relying on Wikileaks' revelations for edification?"

Oh teh Irony, she burns, she burns!

 
At 28 July, 2010 11:37, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Mark Fuckin' Lane.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 
At 28 July, 2010 12:22, Anonymous Anonymous said...

GB-As I pointed out earlier, there is plenty of evidence that the materials found in the dust, Fly ash and Pumice, were subjected to extremely high temperatures at some time, but not on 9/11. For example, fly ash is the product of coal fired power plants and pumice is the product of super-heated volcanic eruptions.

Sadly though Billy, you fail to recognize those melted iron or steel spheres were not present in the samples of WTC dust prior to 9/11 that RJ Lee collected and tested.

Nor does the report show that pumice from the New York Volcano nor fly ash was present in the dust PRIOR to the 9/11 event. They only mention that trace amounts that could occur in normal background dust.

Does the report list the tempertatures at which iron or steel melts? No. Does it need to? No.

But Billy, feel free to suck on this:
However, it is worth noting that fly ash and partially
combusted products can occur in trace concentrations in ordinary building
dusts,
but not in the concentrations observed in WTC Dust.

Doesn't your numbskull get it?
It wasn't jet fuel that caused the iron spheres to melt. It wasn't burning shit in the towers hot enough to melt iron. It wasn't fly ash from a coal plant, shit for brains. It was something else that melted the iron or steel.

RJ Lee lays out the unique instance of iron spheres and REMVOES the most likely cause of the iron or steel spheres-fly ash! The one excuse and common explanation debunkers like to use to explain the cause... "it was the fly ash, dummy." In this case all a debunker is doing is flat out lying and ignoring the science. Jone's simply confirmed what at one time was confidential...the discovery of iron or steel spheres caused by melting. Harriet's team has discovered that the most likely cause of the melted iron or steel spheres.
Quit playing intellectual again, oh and here is your ass on a plate...again.
From your friendly non-brian anyony.

 
At 28 July, 2010 12:39, Anonymous Arhoolie V.,the "Git" Crusher said...

Hey,quit pickin' on the desperate, addled "Git"! After all,he's up to his neck in Afghanistan slaughter documents that are literally crushing his arguments to death right in front of him! Our military lie to us? "Never",sayeth the sickest boy in California.Oof!

 
At 28 July, 2010 13:10, Blogger GuitarBill said...

The psychopath dissembles, "...Sadly though Billy, you fail to recognize those melted iron or steel spheres were not present in the samples of WTC dust prior to 9/11 that RJ Lee collected and tested...Nor does the report show that pumice from the New York Volcano nor fly ash was present in the dust PRIOR to the 9/11 event. They only mention that trace amounts that could occur in normal background dust."

LOL!

Too stupid for words, aren't you?

Fly ash is aggregate for concrete--you retard. The fly ash wasn't released into the environment until AFTER the concrete was pulverized.

Does the obvious always evade you, retard?

"...Doesn't your numbskull get it?
It wasn't jet fuel that caused the iron spheres to melt. It wasn't burning shit in the towers hot enough to melt iron. It wasn't fly ash from a coal plant, shit for brains. It was something else that melted the iron or steel."


Wrong again, cretin.

I've already proven that a 600 - 1000 degrees C fire is all that's necessary to produce iron-rich spheres. Read it again, idiot.

Source: Characterization of Combustion Residues from an MSW Incinerator.

Since the fires cannot produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere, the remaining sphere had to come from somewhere else.

Where, you ask?

Wikipedia wrote, "...The floors consisted of 4 inches (10 cm) thick lightweight concrete slabs laid on a fluted steel deck."

Source: Wikipedia: World Trade Center--Structural design.

The ONLY source with enough iron-rich sphere (fly ash and pumice) to spew thousands of TONS of iron-rich sphere (again, fly ash and pumice) over the debris pile, not to mention lower Manhattan, was the WTC towers lightweight concrete.

Duh!

Now, I want you to explain how ~3,000 lbs (or 3,900 lbs. of "nanothermite", depending on which lie Jones decides to tell this week) of "nanothermite" (Jones theory) can produce 10,000 tons of iron-rich sphere?

And don't forget to violate the laws of thermodynamics, cretin.

And remember the law of conservation of mass, which states that mass cannot be created or destroyed.

Or better yet, simply admit that Steven Jones is a lair.

Now, go play in the freeway--you stupid twat.

 
At 28 July, 2010 14:20, Anonymous Bilbo's Arhoolie said...

Hey Bilbo,since your wife has fake tits and you're life is a series of sloppy seconds,thirds and fourths,why don't you try beating off lefty tonight,OK Dogboy.Anything on Shaffer,moron?

 
At 28 July, 2010 14:32, Blogger GuitarBill said...

Projecting again, Mr. illiterate?

(Projection is a big word, look it up, 'tard).

 
At 28 July, 2010 14:45, Anonymous "Mashed Git" by Arhoolie said...

Hey asshole,quit responding for BilboBaggedAgain.He can speak on his crummy life without you glomming on,jerkoff.Quick,back to Google.com,you graesy worm.

 
At 28 July, 2010 14:57, Blogger GuitarBill said...

"...Greasy worm"?

That would be your pecker after jerking off while eating a Big Mac.

 
At 28 July, 2010 17:28, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

"Sadly though Billy, you fail to recognize those melted iron or steel spheres were not present in the samples of WTC dust prior to 9/11 that RJ Lee collected and tested."

Well holy fuck, stop the world I want to get off.

Do you have a hint of an inkling of anb idea how fucking reatrded stupid that is?

No, of course you don't.

 
At 28 July, 2010 17:30, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Mark Fuckin' Lane.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 
At 28 July, 2010 18:18, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

Come see the "Git" graduate from pre-school this Sunday.He's so cute at this age!!

 
At 28 July, 2010 19:08, Blogger TANSTAAFL said...

Mark Fuckin' Lane.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

[wipes tears of laughter from eyes]

 
At 30 July, 2010 15:18, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those aren't tears, war criminal trailer trash. That's water leaking from your hydrocephalic head.

 
At 31 July, 2010 05:07, Anonymous sackcloth and ashes said...

I see Arseholie's taken to calling himself 'Solitary'. At last some honesty from our resident Walt.

 
At 02 August, 2010 12:52, Anonymous Arhoolie Vanunu said...

Yet more squeaks from the dipso pip! Sackpiffle,shut your fucking face,I'm tired of kicking your insane ass! Great Caesers Ghost!!

 

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