I Know the Feeling
Truther Dorothy Lorig, on first reading David Ray Griffin:
“I was in my office at the time. I sat there and felt my stomach churning. I thought maybe I was going to be sick."
Yep, Grifter made me want to barf as well.
Labels: David Ray Griffin, Dorothy Lorig
posted by Pat @ 9:17 AM
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208 Comments:
Hey, wait! I have an idea: call him "Grifter". THAT'LL "debunk" everything he's written, huh Pat? Why don't you threaten to punch him too, tough guy?
And don't forget to follow up your 'research' on the Blee thread at JREF: after making a fool of yourself on Post # 594, you seem to have run away like a coward again.
"The iron microspheres reported in the RJ Lee report could easily have been caused by the steelworkers using acetylene torches on the steel during the rescue operation." -Pat Curley
Did you ever find a source for this lie, Pat? No? Then why didn't you retract it, pretendebunker?
Offtopic: amusing hoax making the rounds. Bonus: the crazies at P4T trying to out-crazy each other discussing it.
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That's OK, PC. Dave Thomas has proven that the WTC fire floors had been packed with steel wool, and that's where the microspheres came from. Oh, and GutterBall has proven that they came from fly ash that was used in the grout for the bathtub tiebacks.
I really wish people would stop theorizing and concentrate on getting a credible investigation.
Brian, we had a credible investigation. Nobody cares if you want another investigation, as you're a pathetic liar, lunatic, sex stalker, and unemployed janitor. You serve no purpose except to amuse the smart and successful people who post here with your endless squealing and crying.
I really wish people would stop theorizing and concentrate on getting a credible investigation.
Eleven years after the fact, with memories faded and records lost, a new investigation would not result in better answers.
I see all the the typical crying about "iron rich" spheres is still in effect.
IRON RICH=PURE IRON=
SUPERDUPERTHERM?TE
I really wish people would stop theorizing and concentrate on getting a credible investigation.
I really wish truthers would stop hiding from academia.
Ian wrote: we had a credible investigation.
Ian, as usual, you lie. We never had an official investigation of the iron microspheres. Your belief that you're smart only shows how you delude yourself.
RGT wrote: Eleven years after the fact, with memories faded and records lost, a new investigation would not result in better answers.
I guess you don't watch "Cold Case" on TV? Why not run computer models with new improved computers? Why not run experiments to show how fires in the debris pile could melt steel, and how bits of flaming debris in a stream of molten aluminum can make it look like like melted steel? Why not explain the source of the sulfur that attacked the Appendix C samples?
GMS wrote: I really wish truthers would stop hiding from academia.
Who's hiding? Academia is hiding from truthers. No one competent will refute or confirm the Jones findings. Why not? No one will explain the disconnect between the official explanations and the laws of physics. Why not? No one will step forward and explain the mysterious sulfidation attacks on the steel Why not?
The iron microspheres are more likely the result of the thermite lances used by the ironworkers on the pile than they are by supermagiconanothermiteate. That said, they are probably even more likely simply from fly ash in the concrete. Only idiot truthers believe otherwise.
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How did microspheres from thermite lances wind up on the handrail of the Brooklyn Bridge an hour after the collapse?
Where is the evidence that fly ash was used in the lightweight floor concrete? At one time I calculated that if fly ash was used in the above-grade floors, it would have been 3 million dollars worth, that the iron in the fly ash would have added 27,000 tons of useless weight, and if the iron had simply been extracted with industrial electromagnets it would have been worth 11 million dollars.
The iron microspheres are more likely the result of
That's your problem, right there. Truthers tend to shy away from more likely / less likely questions. Thermite is never the "most likely" scenario, it's always "proven" because anything else is "impossible". Then they invoke that Truzzi quote ("...plausibility rather than empirical evidence...") to justify implausible ideas.
"...How did microspheres from thermite lances wind up on the handrail of the Brooklyn Bridge an hour after the collapse?"
Logical fallacy: Red herring.
That's right, goat fucker, ignore the concrete dust cloud that covered lower Manhattan. So how do you explain the fly ash that was found in the first responders lungs?
You lie, and lie and lie.
"...At one time I calculated...[blah][blah][blah]."
As everyone knows, your "calculations" are worthless. Margin of error: Plus or minus an order of magnitude.
FACT:
"...Over 15 million metric tons of fly ash were added to portland cement concrete in 2006." -- an excerpt Cement.org's Fly Ash in Concrete
That's expert testimony, goat fucker. Portland cement is a component of all lightweight concrete. And lightweight concrete has been used in the US since the construction of the Hoover Dam, which was completed in 1936.
So how does that square with your irrelevant "calculations," dingbat?
You have no idea what you're talking about.
FACT: You're just trying to hijack another thread with your illogical, contrarian bullshit.
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"The iron microspheres are more likely the result of the thermite lances... they are probably even more likely simply from fly ash in the concrete. Only idiot truthers believe otherwise."
And only idiots like Pat think the spheres all look the same from those processes. Do you really think they can't be distinguished from each other? Where's your source for this "information"? Is it more pseudoscientific garbage from a pretendebunker? What about the volatilized lead or melted molybdenum? What are the minimum temperatures for those reactions, Pat Curley?
Using words like "supermagiconanothermiteate" doesn't strengthen your argument, fat man, and your pseudoskepticism just makes you look more like a Casshole.
"...And only idiots like Pat think the spheres all look the same from those processes. Do you really think they can't be distinguished from each other? Where's your source for this 'information'?"
Typical troofer logic. It's not incumbent on us to prove or disprove your pseudo-scientific claptrap, cowardly. The burden of proof rests on your shoulders and your shoulders alone.
I'm sure that you'll submit a peer reviewed paper on the subject any day now. Yeah, right! I won't hold my breath waiting for it, that's for sure.
And I'm sure you can easily explain all the fly ash that was found in the first responders lungs.
Oh, that's right! All you have are lies, obfuscation and hand waving.
And then there's Rich Lee's letter on the subject, which explains why transitional and post transitional elements formed microspheres as a result of the conflagration.
Oh, that's right! You don't give a damn about Rich Lee's research, your only concern is twisting his research beyond recognition in order to support your predetermined conclusions.
Illogical much, cowardly?
Don't bother to compose a reply. I have more important things to do than "debate" a conspracy loon.
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RGT wrote: Truthers tend to shy away from more likely / less likely questions. . . . it's always "proven" because anything else is "impossible".
I agree that truthers' tendency to overstate their case is one reason they are not taken seriously. But tell me this: how can microspheres from cutting torches or thermite lances place themselves on the handrail at Brooklyn Bridge an hour after the collapse?
GB wrote: how do you explain the fly ash that was found in the first responders lungs?
I'm not aware that fly ash was found in first responders' lungs. I'm sure not going to take your word for it.
Also, ButtGale--if you had any facts on your side you would not find it necessary to resort to the indignity of quoting a bigot's lies to try to intimidate me with a fallacious ad hominem attack.
If there were any truth to your claims, I would have fled this forum years ago.
"...Also, ButtGale--if you had any facts...[blah][blah][blah]."
Projecting again, sex predator? After all, you have nothing but 100% fact-free arguments--that is, when you're not trying to pass off logical fallacies as "debate."
"...I'm not aware that fly ash was found in first responders' lungs. I'm sure not going to take your word for it."
See what I mean?
You lie, and lie and lie.
We've already been over this, goat fucker. And remember, 'tard, your incredulity isn't an argument.
The findings, moreover, are published in the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. And the results are beyond dispute: Over 4000 first responders suffered respiratory illness as the result of inhaling the particles from the concrete dust cloud that covered lower Manhattan. Fly ash--along with other substances found in lightweight concrete--was present in the first responders lungs.
Now spam the thread with more dumbspam and 100% fact-free contrarian bullshit, loser.
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ButtGale, the title of a journal is not a citation. Where exactly does the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences say that there's fly ash in the first reponders' lungs?
"...the title of a journal is not a citation. Where exactly does the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences say that there's fly ash in the first reponders' lungs?"
There you go again, jackass. Get it through your thick skull, Mr Logical Fallacy: Your incredulity is not an argument. And your constant dumbspam is even less convincing.
As you are well aware, liar, I already gave you the links. Like I said, we've already been over this, jackass. Learn to read, Pinocchio. Besides, don't you claim to be a "google" [SIC] expert? I guess that malarkey was just more bullshit. Right, lamer?
You couldn't find your ass with a hunting dog and a compass, let alone use "google."
FACT: The findings are published in the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, 2006. And the results are beyond dispute: Over 4000 first responders suffered respiratory illness as the result of inhaling the particles from the concrete dust cloud that covered lower Manhattan. Fly ash--along with other substances found in lightweight concrete--was present in the first responders lungs. The findings are also published in Environmental Health Perspectives, November 2004.
Put a fork in it, goat fucker, you're done.
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ButtGale, the only link you gave was to a lying Jew-hater's website, and it didn't say anything about Fly Ash in the first responders' lungs.
There you go again, jackass. More dumbspam, idiot? Again, your incredulity is not an argument.
Apparently your senile dementia is flaring up, so read the third paragraph again, cretin:
As you are well aware, liar, I already gave you the links. Like I said, we've already been over this, jackass. Learn to read, Pinocchio. Besides, don't you claim to be a "google" [SIC] expert? I guess that malarkey was just more bullshit. Right, lamer?
There's no need to rehash this "debate." The findings published by Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and Environmental Health Perspectives are beyond dispute.
All you have are arguments from incredulity, ie., logical fallacies.
Besides, you hijacked the thread, jackass. Have you no shame?
You're a waste of skin.
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You keep babbling about this journal but you won't provide a link, you won't name the author, the title of the article, or the date of publication, and you won't quote the part that supports your claim that fly ash was found in the first responders' lungs. All you do is spam the link to a lying bigot's website.
So what has inspired this spam attack? Pat's inability to answer the question: If the microspheres came from torches or thermite lances, how did they get to the Brooklyn Bridge within an hour of the collapse?
"It's not incumbent on us to prove or disprove your pseudo-scientific claptrap"
It's up to you and Pat to substantiate what you assert, instead of playing pseudoskeptic with explanations you hope are plausible, but are provably full of holes. Totally transparent BS from both of you, as always.
Any luck with the volatilized lead and melted molybdenum, Pat? Any sources you'd care to present?
There you go again, jackass. More dumbspam, idiot? Again, your incredulity is not an argument.
Apparently your senile dementia is flaring up, so read the third paragraph again, cretin:
As you are well aware, liar, I already gave you the links. Like I said, we've already been over this, jackass.
And that's the only answer you're going to get, troll.
Besides, you're a liar, goat fucker. I gave you the links months ago. And you're not going to continue to hijack the thread. You lost the last "debate," and I've trounced you again.
You lose, troll. That said, since when have you ever read the links I provide for you? All you do is deliberately misinterpret the relevant data in order to hijack the thread. You behave in this manner because you're an insane troll. Besides the only "link" that really concerns you is the following:
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Again, like all sex predators, you're a waste of skin. Now spam the thread with more arguments from incredulity, Mr. Logical Fallacy.
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"...It's up to you and Pat to substantiate what you assert, instead of playing pseudoskeptic [SIC] with explanations you hope are plausible, but are provably full of holes. Totally transparent BS from both of you, as always."
I didn't make an unsubstantiated assertion--you clown. FACT: You hijacked the thread from POST NUMBER ONE with your unsubstantiated assertions and ad hominem attacks--you deranged scumbag.
FACT: We've substantiated our argument on many occasions. That you are too dishonest, insane and irrational to accept the truth isn't our concern.
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GB wrote: "I already gave you the links. . . . We've substantiated our argument on many occasions."
The only argument more pathetic than the lying ad hominem is the "I already answered that" lie. Thanks for demonstrating how pathetic you are, GB. It must be really frustrating to be you.
Still battling senile dementia, sex predator?
The only person who's lying is you, troll. FACT: I gave you the links month ago. (Shall I pull up the links to SLC--you God damned liar?) And you know it, liar. In fact, everyone knows that I'm telling the truth, including the troofers who've banned you from every troofer cult website on the Internet (E.g., TroofAction).
And remember, liar, your incredulity is not an argument.
Brian Good--senile, stoooooooopid, a compulsive liar, an Internet troll and a pervert. What a charming combination.
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Yes, pull up the links. Don't act like you're doing anybody a big favor just by backing up your claim. Pull up the link that says there's fly ash in the first responders' lungs.
Still waiting for you to present your sources, Pat Casshole.
Unless you're content with GB doing all your nattering for you (hint: he's making you both look foolish).
Hold it, goat fucker! I thought you were the "google" [SIC] expert?
What happened to all your search engine expertise, blowhard? Lying again, Pinocchio? What's new? Right, liar?
In fact, I found the relevant link in less than 45 seconds using "google." It's sitting right here on my desktop in a text editor. So what's your excuse, Dr. Lamer?
Can't find your ass with a hunting dog and compass, can you, lamer?
Perhaps if you understood how to use "google" [SIC] you wouldn't be so confused about the events on 11 September 2001?
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What GB's really good at is filling many inches of space with repetitive and substanceless and stinky hot air, which very well does the job of ensuring that no one will read the thread. That's why I call him ButtGale.
So now ButtGale's down to the "I've got the proof but I'm not going to give it to you" ploy.
That's not an answer, goat fucker, it's an evasion.
So why can't you find the link to SLC for the relevant data? After all, it's not like you have to search the entire Internet, just one little website.
And I found the link in less than 45 seconds. What's your excuse, Captain Failure?
Are you too stooooooopid to actually use "google," or are you too dishonest to admit that you're lying?
I'll go with the latter.
So which is it, goat fucker? Are you stooooooooooopid or a liar? Take your pick. dingbat.
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You're just playing games to try to hide your inability to support your claims.
"...You're just playing games to try to hide your inability to support your claims."
Nope, I'm proving that you're a liar and a blowhard, Mr. Logical Fallacy.
So why can't you search SLC to find the relevant link, Mr. "google" [SIC] expert?
Lying to us again, pervert? Of course you're lying to us again. So I guess we can add "google" to the long list of "skills" that make up your curriculum vitae of incompetence. Tell us more about ΔT, cretin. And when you're finished fucking that up, jackass, do a "calculation" for us. You know, your brand of "calculation," which has a built in error factor of plus-or-minus and order of magnitude.
So what happened to your alleged "google" [SIC] skills, charlatan?
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Here, cretin, I'll give you another clue, and you'll still be unable to find the link. Loser.
The article was published to SLC in March of 2012.
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In March you were babbling that fly ash in tieback grout proved that fly ash was used in the floors, which was obviously absurd.
Support your claim that the first responders' lungs have fly ash in them. Stop playing flatulent games.
You flirt like an Ian.
I see you still can't find the link to the relevant data, no matter how many clues I give you. Why is that, Mr. "google" [SIC] skills?
Yep, you're lying about your knowledge of the "debate," which, by the way, took place in March 2012, the existence of the relevant links, and the footnotes found therein. Lies, lies and more lies. You're also lying about your alleged "google" skills.
Will you ever stop lying, goat fucker?
45 seconds, goat fucker. 45 seconds. You're pathetic.
Yep, we can add lying about your alleged "google" skills to the long list of lies you've spluged from one end of SLC to the other over the last several years.
You're truly pathetic.
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Support your claim that the first responders' lungs have fly ash in them. Stop playing coy flatulent games. You flirt like an Ian. It's disgusting.
And Pat Coginfil RUNS from the debate faster than his fat, broken body could ever carry him.
Good for you, brave "debunker".
You've proven again that your Cassinine 'explanations' of the evidence are as feeble and inadequate as you are.
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"...Support your claim that the first responders' lungs have fly ash in them. Stop playing coy flatulent games. You flirt like an Ian. It's disgusting."
I did substantiate my claim. I substantiated my argument back in March 2012--and I have the links to the thread to prove it.
Question: Why am I so confident of the date if I don't have the links?
You, on the other hand, are the one playing "coy flatulent games." After all, you claim to be a "google" expert, yet you can't find the relevant links no matter how many clues I provide for you. Why is that, liar?
Obviously, you lied--repeatedly--about your alleged "google" skills, just as you lie about everything else. FACT: Every word that emerges from your semen-encrusted keyboard is a lie.
Thus, you're not worthy of "debate." All you deserve is ridicule.
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Pretendebunker Pat says fly ash is indistinguishable from the by- product of a nanoenergetic reaction, but for some reason he refuses to divulge the source for this "research".
This is "Debunker Science".
"...Pretendebunker Pat says fly ash is indistinguishable from the by- product of a nanoenergetic reaction, but for some reason he refuses to divulge the source for this 'research'."
Learn to read, cowardly.
I gave you the answer and the source at time stamp 25 July, 2012 09:13. Read the third paragraph of Rich Lee's letter until it sinks into your 8 meter-thick, steel-reinforced concrete skull, cowardly.
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ButtGale labors mightily to try to create the impression that there's something admirable about not backing up his claims. In that way he resembles a Ranke or a Balsamo.
Why should I do something twice for a pair of lying scumbags who are beneath contempt? If you're too lame to scroll up-thread and read the links, it's certainly not my fault. Must I spoon feed you like a brain-dead child?
So where are the links to the SLC article, Mr. alleged "google" [SIC] skills? Lying again, charlatan? Of course you're lying. You couldn't find your ass with "google."
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I'm not looking for my ass with Google. You refuse to support your claims. Fine. No surprise there.
And Pat refuses to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops get to Brooklyn Bridge.
Pat spews the bullshit, and then gets GB to wallow in it with walls of lying spam.
And Mark Roberts actually recommended this site once upon a time. How the 'debunkers' have fallen...
So what's your source that nanoenergetic by-products are the same as those of thermite lances and fly ash, Pat?
GB is obviously unable to help you on this one. Why so shy, tubbytits?
I've already supported my claims. Remember, I kicked your ass back in March 2012. Do you suffer from selective amnesia, liar? Or senile dementia? Or perhaps good, old-fashioned compulsive lying?
So I'll ask you again, Mr. alleged "google" [SIC] skills: Where are the links to the SLC article?
Why don't you just admit that you lied, goat fucker. You couldn't find your ass with "google," let alone the relevant links and the footnotes found therein.
Loser.
You're beneath contempt. A liar. A one-balled abortion with two firing synapses--and both of them are dedicated to sniffing model airplane glue.
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You refuse to support your claims. Fine. No surprise there. And Pat refuses to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops get to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started.
"...Pat spews the bullshit, and then gets GB to wallow in it with walls of lying spam."
Cowardly--you ignorant slut. Why don't you point your web browser at the following link and copy the contents of the document, word-for-word, to SLC?
Go for it, Cowardly, I double-dare you. Or are you worried that your quote mining instincts will take over and cause you to butcher the contents found therein?
Coward.
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"...You refuse to support your claims."
Nope, I can support my claims, and I have the links to prove it. You, on the other hand...
That's why I'm sitting here with the links, just taking my time before I smash you over the head. It's amusing to see how many times you'll tell the same bald-faced lie over-and-over again. But then again, you're a psychopath, so all of this insane behavior on your part is par for the course. Same shit, different day.
FACT: You are the only one who has failed to support his claims, Mr. alleged "google" [SIC] skills.
Where are the links to the SLC article and the footnotes found therein?
Why don't you just admit that you lied, goat fucker? You couldn't find your ass with "google," let alone the relevant links and the footnotes found therein.
A loser and a liar. What a charming combination.
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You refuse to support your claims.
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No, you refuse to support your claims--and that's obvious because it's been hours now and you still can't produce the links, the relevant data or the footnotes found therein.
Clearly, you lied when you claimed to have "google" [SIC] skills. Just like you lied when you claimed to have an "education," and a "scientific reputation."
You lie first, last and always. And your inability to support your claims is all the proof anyone needs to see that you're a fraud, a liar, and a "miserable troll."
So where are the links to the SLC article and the footnotes found therein?
Yeah, I know, you'll produce them when Hell freezes over rather than admit what everyone can see: You're a liar.
Should we expect less than a never-ending stream of lies and obfuscation from a proven pervert? Probably not.
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Unsourced speculation about 'hurricane force winds' and 'blast furnace' temperatures don't help you or Pat at all, CanardShill.
Produce the source that says scientists can't tell the difference between fly ash, thermite torch residues, and nanoenergetics. Pat will take off his superman costume for you if you do.
"...Unsourced [SIC] speculation about 'hurricane force winds' and 'blast furnace' temperatures don't help you or Pat at all, CanardShill."
I didn't ask for your worthless opinion, scumbag. I asked you to "copy the contents of the document, word-for-word, to SLC?"
See, you're incapable of following instructions. And if you're incapable of following instructions...well, let's just say that you've more than earned the titles "cretin" and "moron."
You're just like the goat fucker: You have two firing synapses in your shrunken head--and both of them are dedicated to sniffing model airplane glue.
Is it any wonder that you're so confused about the events of 11 September 2001? Probably not.
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"Our traffic is way, way off. "
-Pat the Coward, on SLC.
It wouldn't have anything to do with the quality of your "debunking" now would it, Pat?
"The iron microspheres are more likely the result of the thermite lances used by the ironworkers on the pile than they are by supermagiconanothermiteate. That said, they are probably even more likely simply from fly ash in the concrete. Only idiot truthers believe otherwise."
Source for the "likely" and "more likely" explanations, Pat? Surely you wouldn't just make shit up, would you?
How many times do we have to ask you? What's so difficult about giving citations, pretendebunker?
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Again idiot, it's not incumbent on me to prove or disprove your idiotic claims. Illogical much, stooooopid? That's your problem, douchebag. See? You're incapable of learning--a moron.
Now get to work, charlatan. I'm sure I'll laugh for a month when you produce your [cough] "peer reviewed paper."
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So Cowardly--you ignorant slut, when to you plan to copy the contents of Rich Lee's letter, word-for-word, to SLC?
Do you have something to hide, scumbag?
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Hmm, an unemployed virgin who was fired from Burger King and an unemployed janitor who lives with his parents at age 60 are trying to win an internet fight.
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Who's hiding? Academia is hiding from truthers. No one competent will refute or confirm the Jones findings. Why not?
Keep teling yourself that Brian. Is that why:
-Jones resigned instead of undergoing academic review?
-Jones chose to create his own intelectual circle jerk?
-Jones chose to go with a publisher that has all the trappings of sham (multiple editors, boards members, etc resigning, spamming for contributors, publishing pure nonsense, choosing reviewers acknowledged in the study)?
-Jones tried to pretend he didn't know Griscom was a truther?
-None of the so called "scholars" are presenting at professional conferences on structural engineering, fire science, or nanoenergetics anywhere on the planet?
But yeah, a reputable forensic scientist like Millette has conducted his own study and showed it wasn't any kind of thermite and will be publishing in it in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. What would he or they know about forensic chemistry?
Sorry Brian, no truther has published any study in any real journal on the planet, or presented before any professional conference. Not in Iran, not in Russia, not in China....all those places that are just getting line to cover up for the USA.
When will we be seeing anyone replicating Jones' results in a real journal? Its only been since 2009.
LMAO!!! "Academia is hiding". Keep telling yourself that.
>None of the so called "scholars" are presenting at professional conferences on structural engineering, fire science, or nanoenergetics
You make it seem like their choice.
I think it was unscientific of those who were in a position to replicate or refute Dr. Jones's nanothermite findings to dismiss them out of hand on the bases you cite. I think their unwillingness to even try to refute them was cowardly.
Dr. Millette's refusal to perform a DSC on his chips is also unscientific. He should have confirmed his analysis with this simple test.
>no truther has published any study in any real journal on the planet
And again, you act as if this were by choice.
You make it seem like their choice.
Sweet...so who has tried? I just saw Gage in an interview with Iranian state TV, I've also seen him on Russian state TV. Surely if the US academics are cowtailing to US policy, then Gage and his gaggle should be able to get an audience somewhere in Russia, Iran, or China. Or is it that their scientists also value their credibility?
I think it was unscientific of those who were in a position to replicate or refute Dr. Jones's nanothermite findings to dismiss them out of hand on the bases you cite. I think their unwillingness to even try to refute them was cowardly.
People did. Honestly truthers don't deserve a reputable scientist publishing in a real journal as Jones is not, and did not. I think the fact that Jones has repeatedly ran from real academic forums speaks volumes about him, and your avoidance of dealing with it speaks volumes about you. You don't get to handwave away the standards of academia because it's inconvenient. Jones knows the value of peer review as an academic himself, and his attempt to give the impression he underwent one only reiterates that. He knows its important but for some reason publishes in a circle jerk.
Dr. Millette's refusal to perform a DSC on his chips is also unscientific.
Sorry Brian, but I will be deferring to actual forensic scientists on this. Aren't you the same guy who constantly tells other people that they are not experts?
He should have confirmed his analysis with this simple test.
Sorry Brian, but your opinion is irrelevant. You are deferring a study conducted by non-forensic scientists published in a fake journal reviewed by at least 1 compromised reviewer as the standard.
And again, you act as if this were by choice.
Submitting studies is a choice. Now a sane person would say that if they are trying and not getting published anywhere on the planet, then there is a problem with the study. A loon concludes there is a global cover up. Are they trying? If so, when and where?
Mr. Gage is not trying to appeal to academics. Criticizing him for not achieving what he's not trying to do hardly seems fair.
What academic forums has Dr. Jones "ran from"? You're not addressing the issue: that nobody in academia had the courage to try to refute Dr. Jones's work. You continue to act as if it was Jones's choice not to publish in a respectable journal.
Dr. Millette's findings have not been replicated by anybody. Are you disputing the propositions that running a simple confirming test would strengthen his case, and that failing to do so weakens it?
Also, to assume that Dr. Millette's chips are identical to Jones's is unintelligent.
I don't know where Jones and Harrit tried to publish. And I don't know why publishers rejected their paper--if they rejected it. At one time the paper was about twice its current length.
I have never stuck my neck out for Dr. Jones's work, so if the nanothermite turns out to be hooey it hurts me not a bit. If it is hooey I'm sorry it was not refuted years ago by respectable academics.
Dr. Millette's work is unfortunately not satisfactory.
SpamMasterDreck is just spewing his unsourced babble as usual. Claiming to defer to Millette's "authority" is admitting he's clueless about repeatability and the scientific method.
Do you also agree with Pat Curley that there's no way to distinguish fly ash from cutting-torch residues or nanoenergetic by-products, spambunker? Why or why not?
"People did. Honestly truthers don't deserve a reputable scientist publishing in a real journal as Jones is not, and did not. I think the fact that Jones has repeatedly ran from real academic forums speaks volumes..."
-Spambunker
Sources, or it's just your irrelevant opinion. Why do you find it difficult to substantiate what you assert? Did you get that from Pat?
"Surely if the US academics are cowtailing [sic] to US policy, then Gage and his gaggle should be able to get an audience somewhere in Russia, Iran, or China. Or is it that their scientists also value their credibility?"
Since you apparently support the "truth by majority opinion" approach, do you believe JFK was a cover-up/conspiracy, or is it just that 80% of the population is wrong?
Will you be debunking anything, ever, or will you be fleeing like Pat?
Oh, and Pat:
When you feebly offer "explanations" that start with 'more likely', and continue with 'even more likely', does your fat head even realize that weaseling around like that is, by definition, NOT a "debunk"?
Why do you suppose you fail to think critically so often, Cassper?
When you feebly offer "explanations" that start with 'more likely', and continue with 'even more likely', does your fat head even realize that weaseling around like that is, by definition, NOT a "debunk"?
Once again, Fat Cunttwatly (aka Scootle) is completely oblivious to the double standard he's creating for troofers. Troofers can assume everything from hologram planes to modified attack baboons, but how dare you use Occam's Razor to describe the events of 9/11...
I do have to hand it to you and Brian, though...
The 9/11 "trooooooof!!!" movement has all but dissappeared since the 10th anniversary, yet you internet heroes manage to come on here daily and accomplish nothing.
You'd probably get more satisfying bites for your trolling if you focused on YouTube.
Noone here really cares anymore, from what I can see. Even your childish personal attacks fall on deaf ears, because noone gives a shit anymore, yet you still claim "HE RAN AWAY! VICTORY!"
Victory to who? Who cares? Honestly, please find one person who's been swayed by your comments on this forum.
Not swaying you clowns is a victory because it shows anybody curious enough to read the thread that you are impervious to facts and logic.
Yeah goat fucker, tell us more about "impervious to logic," while every argument you've ever made is based on at least one logical fallacy.
Project much, Mr. "google" expert?
So where are the links to the thread, lamer?
You couldn't find your ass with "google," let alone a web page.
You lie, and lie and lie and lie. Should we expect less from a proven pervert? Probably not.
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It's for you to prove your own claims that the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says there was fly ash found in the first responders' lungs.
Your belligerent refusal to do so suggests that you can't.
And of course we're still waiting for Pat to explain how microspheres from cleanup operations got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup operations began.
Do you also agree with Pat Curley that there's no way to distinguish fly ash from cutting-torch residues or nanoenergetic by-products, spambunker?
I agree with that.
More dumbspam, queer boi?
I proved my claims back in March 2012, when I handed you your head in the "debate," liar. And you know it, shit-for-brains. How many times must I repeat myself, asshole?
Besides, I have the links copied to a text editor. It took me less than 45 seconds to find the information.
YOU are the one who failed to prove his claims. After all, it's been over 24 hours and no links.
Obviously, YOU lied when you claimed to be a "google" expert. Yet, you can't find a web page from one website (SLC), no matter how many clues I've given you.
Why is that, charlatan?
Why don't you just admit it, faggot? You know nothing about "google," and you couldn't find your ass using "google," let alone a web page.
And maybe you can explain why your fellow faggot, Cowardly, refuses to reproduce Rich Lee's letter.
Do you have something to hide, felcher?
You lie, and lie, and lie and lie.
Should we expect less from a proven sex stalker? Probably not.
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Not swaying you clowns is a victory because it shows anybody curious enough to read the thread that you are impervious to facts and logic.
So Brian's response is (as it usually is) "baseless smug superiority" that's completely transparent and ineffective.
It's no wonder the government hasnt been overthrown yet, with such scathing and factual retort such as Brian's "NU UH!!" and Fat Cunttwatly's "@%&!# ^^$*! @^!($!"
You guys might want to find a more recent conspiracy. I hear the Aurora shooter is catching on, especially with Alex Jones. It's perfect, after all. It's a guy as insane as you are. Hell, I'm surprised you guys haven't latched onto him as your messiah already.
"But but but!!! Movie theater fire exits have alarms.. WHY DIDN'T THEY GO OFF?!!"
Hey, wait! I have an idea: call him "Grifter". THAT'LL "debunk" everything he's written, huh Pat? Why don't you threaten to punch him too, tough guy?
Hey, wait! I have an idea: feign incredulity at the nerve of someone to come up with a nickname for member of the troof movment! THAT'LL "prove" 9/11 was an inside jobby job, huh Cowardly? Why don't you make fun of his dead father too, tough guy?
Your double standard for everything apparently blinds you to your own hypocrisy. Not suprisingly, Scootle.
And of course we're still waiting for Pat to explain how microspheres from cleanup operations got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup operations began, and for UtterFail to support his claim that the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says there was fly ash found in the first responders' lungs.
Still spewing the same lies, queer-bait?
That's right, goat fucker, ignore the concrete dust cloud that covered lower Manhattan.
YOU lied when you claimed to have "google" [SIC] skills. Proof? For some reason, you just can't produce the links. So what happened to your mythical "google" skills--you lying degenerate?
Like I said, I have the links copied to a text editor. It took me less than 45 seconds to find the information.
So what's your excuse, computer illiterate?
The goat fucker -- a stalker, a liar, a degenerate and a glue sniffing troll. What a charming combination.
Should we expect less from a proven pervert? Probably not.
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Still can't support your claims, ButtGale?
Still can't tell the truth, felcher?
After all, YOU participated in the thread. Is your senile dementia flaring up again, queer-bait?
So which is it, goat fucker? Are you senile or a liar? Take your pick, Lawrence of Arabia.
So where are the links to the SLC article and the footnotes found therein? After all, you claim to be a "google" [SIC] expert. So what happened to your alleged "google" skills, liar?
Yeah, I know, you'll produce them when Hell freezes over rather than admit what everyone can see: You're a liar.
Should we expect less from a proven liar and a pervert? Probably not.
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Goat fucker, you've had over 36 hours to find the links. Are you seriously trying to tell me that a "google" expert can't find a link to an SLC thread from March 2012 in less than 36 hours?
Do you have something to hide, queer-bait?
Of course you have something to hide. And what are you trying to hide? Answer: The humiliating defeat you suffered in March 2012.
FACT: The findings are published in the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, 2006. And the results are beyond dispute: Over 4000 first responders suffered respiratory illness as the result of inhaling the particles from the concrete dust cloud that covered lower Manhattan. Fly ash--along with other substances found in lightweight concrete--was present in the first responders lungs. The findings are also published in Environmental Health Perspectives, November 2004.
So tell us, goat fucker, what are YOU trying to hide?
Should we expect less than lies and pettifoggery from a from a proven liar and a pervert? Probably not.
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Do you really think your synthetic venom substitutes for substance?
I remember very silly discussions with you about fly ash. By misrepresenting the RJ Lee report and misestimating the pulverized concrete you came up with wild estimates of the amount of iron you thought should be in the dust. You also became fixated on the notion that because fly ash was used in the tieback grout, therefore it must have been used in the lightweight floors as well.
No, I don't remember you claiming that there was fly ash in the first responders' lungs.
I don't need to carry your
dirty water. Carry your own.
So, you still aren't supporting your claims. But you are still libeling me and obsessively linking to the website of a well-known liar and bigot--good company for you.
Lying again, goat fucker? Are dumbspam and lies all you have, queer?
You participated in the thread.
You fool no one, goat fucker. That's why you were banned from TroofAction. Hell, even the troofers can see through your bullshit, TROLL.
So are you senile or a liar? Take your pick, Pinocchio.
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What's the matter, troll, are you frightened?
You know damned well that I'm telling the truth. You also know that I'll crush you like a grape.
Pussy. Coward. Liar. Queer. Felcher. Degenerate. Fellatio-artist. Log Cabin Republican. Child molester. Violent homosexual neo-Nazi for 9/11 troof.
Tell us more about your alleged "google" [SIC] skills, liar.
It sucks to be you, coward.
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If you're going to crush me, why don't you do it? Why do you have to resort to lies instead, and obsessively linking to the website of a well-known liar and bigot--good company for you.
What "lies" are you talking about, goat fucker? Or are empty accusations without the benefit of evidence all you have, asshole?
Again douchebag, I presented the evidence in March 2012, and YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE THREAD.
So when do you plan to prove that you have "google" [SIC] skills?
Or do you refuse to pull up the links because you know that I'm telling the truth?
Again, here's your clue, idiot (and if you can't find the link with this clue, you're worthless--a bullshit artist who couldn't find information with "google" to save your life):
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
Must I spoon feed you like a retarded child?
Or did you lie when you claimed to have "google" [SIC] skills?
Or do you have something to hide, Pinocchio?
So what are you hiding, loser?
Should we expect less than lies and pettifoggery from a proven liar and a pervert? Probably not.
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If you don't know Barrett's lies, you haven't been reading my posts, ButtGale. All you have is vaporous venom.
That's right, goat fucker, don't answer the questions, CHANGE THE SUBJECT. What's the matter, pervert? Scared to death that your bullshit will be exposed, charlatan?
When do you plan to prove that you have "google" [SIC] skills?
Or do you refuse to pull up the links because you know that I'm telling the truth?
Again, here's your clue, idiot (and if you can't find the link with this clue, you're worthless--a bullshit artist who couldn't find information with "google" to save your life):
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
SLC, March 2012, scumbag.
Yep, you're a retarded child.
And you couldn't find your ass with a hunting dog and a compass. Why is that, Mr. "google" [SIC] skills?
Obviously, I have NOTHING to hide. So what are you going out of your way to hide coward?
How do you explain all the fibrous glass, asbestos fibers, mineral wool, fiberglass, gypsum, wood, glass, paper, cotton, asbestos and fly ash in the 4000 first responders' lungs?
You're a liar, and the studies published by the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. and Environmental Health Perspectives prove that you're full-of-shit.
So when do you plan to prove that you have "google" [SIC] skills?
Or did you lie when you claimed to have "google" [SIC] skills?
Or do you have something to hide, Pinocchio?
So what are you hiding, loser?
Should we expect less than lies and pettifoggery from a proven liar and a pervert? Probably not.
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I don't see any questions, ButtGale.
I'm not interested in your clues. Support your claim that the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, and Environmental Health Perspectives,
say that the first responders have fly ash in their lungs.
At least we can all agree on one thing: that Pat, James, Billman, SpamMaster, and GumShill will NEVER debunk any serious questions about 9/11, on this site or any other.
They'll try every tactic in their little pseudoskeptic pop-up book, only to be embarrassed every single time.
Go ahead and prove it again, Casshats.
Squeal, squeal, squeal!
What's the matter, goat fucker? Still unable to find the links? Aren't you a "google" expert?
Obviously you're not a "google" expert because you can't find your ass with a hunting dog and compass, NO MATTER HOW MANY CLUES I PROVIDE FOR YOU.
NOW EITHER ADMIT THAT YOU LIED OR NO LINKS-YOU SLIMY, HOMOSEXUAL COMPULSIVE LIAR.
What's the matter, goat fucker? Are you not "man" enough to admit the truth?
Oh, that's right! You're not a "man," you're deranged recidivist homosexual degenerate who wears women's underwear. My bad.
Should we expect less from a proven pervert? Probably not.
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Cowardly, you ignorant slut. I asked you to reproduce rich Lee's letter word-for-word and post it to SLC; yet, like the goat fucker, you steadfastly refuse to comply with my perfectly legitimate request.
Do you have something to hide, queer boi?
What's the matter, cowardly? All out of adolescent Arab boys to molest--you unwashed degenerate?
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Support your claim that the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, and Environmental Health Perspectives, say that the first responders have fly ash in their lungs.
Support Pat's claim that microspheres from cleanup ops can insert themselves in dust at Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops began.
You're not in a postitoin to make demands, gay boi.
Furthermore, I did substantiate my claim, liar, and you know it because you participated in the thread. I substantiated my argument back in March 2012--and I have the links to the thread to prove it.
I'm waiting for YOU to prove your "google" [SIC] expertise. But you're not a "google" expert, are you liar?
So when do you plan to admit that you lied about your alleged "google" expertise?
So what's new? After all, every word that proceeds from your fellatio-worn lips is a lie. It must suck to have stretchmarks around your lips, gay boi.
Harassed any happily married women lately, degenerate?
Should we expect less from a homosexual degenerate? Probably not.
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Certainly I'm in a position to demand that you support your claims, and when you refuse to do so I'm in a position to point out that you refuse to support your claims.
Your adolescent obsession with homosexuality is pathetic. Still haven't resolved your identity issues, eh?
"...Your adolescent obsession with homosexuality is pathetic."
Not half as "adolescent" or "pathetic" as your participation in homosexual acts.
So tell us, weirdo, how many times did you attempt to molest Willie the Rod? Freak.
It appears that your senile dementia is still acting up, fool. After all, you participated in the thread.
Now, either you're a senile old coot, or, far more likely, you're lying through your terracotta teeth.
So which is it, goat fucker, are you senile or a liar?
Of course we all know the answer: You're a liar.
So when do you plan to admit that you lied about your alleged "google" expertise?
Clue time, gay boi:
March 2012
March 2012
March 2012
I give you the answer on a silver platter; yet you can't "google" and find the links to save your worthless life. Why is that, liar. Hiding something? Of course you're hiding something.
You lie, and lie, and lie and lie and lie.
Should we expect less from a homosexual degenerate who's gayer than Harvey Fierstein at a gerbil husbandry convention? Probably not.
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Still won't support your claims, I see, nor Pat's.
Still won't admit that you lied about your "google" expertise, liar?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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45 seconds, goat fucker. 45 seconds. That's all the time it took me to find the links.
So what's your excuse, Mr. "google" expert?
March 2001
I give you the answer on a silver platter and yet you still can't find the links.
Hiding something, gay boi?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I see you won't back up your claim that you found the links.
Unlike you, goat fucker, I don't lie.
Why would I hand you the links on a silver platter if I'm lying?
March 2012
Your bullshit does not compute, gay boi.
So when do you plan to admit that you lied about your alleged "google" expertise?
Do you think that posting the same dumbspam over-and-over again will convince anyone that you're anything other than a degenerate and a proven compulsive liar?
Pathetic.
So what are YOU hiding, Pinocchio? After all, YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE MARCH 2012 THREAD. So are you senile or a compulsive liar with something to hide? Take your pick, gerbil monger.
Now post more dumbspam and steadfastly refuse to answer my perfectly legitimate questions. After all, if you ever had "credibility," it's long gone now.
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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You've had over 48 hours to find the links, goat fucker.
An idiot using a simple process of elimination (that is, reading every thread) could have found the links in 48 hours. No "google" necessary.
I gave you the links on a silver platter...
March 2012
...and you still can't find the links. Are you an idiot, or do you have something to hide?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
What's wrong with you, goat fucker?
Gerbil got your tongue?
So what are you trying to hide, queen?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I see you still won't back up your claim that you found the links. You just keep on posting obfuscatory spam.
Lying again, scumbag? Of course you're lying. After all, you lie first, last and always.
I see that you still refuse to produce the links from the thread. Why is that, goat fcuker?
I hand you the link on a silver platter...
March 2012
...and you still can't find the links. Are you an idiot, or do you have something to hide?
Do you think that posting the same dumbspam over-and-over again will convince anyone that you're anything other than a degenerate and a proven compulsive liar?
So what are you hiding, fellatio artist?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I'm not interested in your platters. Where are the links?
Lying again, scumbag? On the contrary, you're not interested in the truth. That's why you steadfastly refuse to post the links. And you steadfastly refuse to post the links because you're lying. After all, you participated in the thread.
So there are only two possibilities: [1] You lied about your alleged "google" [SIC] skills; or [2] you have something to hide.
So which is it, Pinocchio? Are you a liar who doesn't know a thing about "google," or are you a liar who has something to hide? Take your pick, liar.
45 seconds, goat fucker. 45 seconds. It took my less than 45 seconds to find the links. In fact, you're so lame that more than 48 hours have passed and still no links.
March 2012
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I'm not interested in your platters. Where are the links?
Lying again, scumbag?
I proved my claims back in March 2012, when I handed you your head in the "debate," liar. And you know it, shit-for-brains. How many times must I repeat myself, asshole?
Besides, I have the links copied to a text editor. It took me less than 45 seconds to find the information.
YOU are the one who failed to prove his claims. After all, it's been over 48 hours and no links.
Obviously, YOU lied when you claimed to be a "google" expert. Yet, you can't find a web page from one website (SLC), no matter how many clues I've given you.
March 2012
Obviously, I have NOTHING to hide. So what are you going out of your way to hide coward?
How do you explain all the fibrous glass, asbestos fibers, mineral wool, fiberglass, gypsum, wood, glass, paper, cotton, asbestos and fly ash in the 4000 first responders' lungs?
You're a liar, and the studies published by the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and Environmental Health Perspectives prove that you're full-of-shit.
So when do you plan to admit that you lied about your alleged "google" expertise?
Clue time, gay boi:
March 2012
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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You keep making claims you won't support. Like a Ranke or a Balsamo you are trying to make a virtue out of your refusal to support your claims.
On the contrary, liar. If you understand "google" [SIC], it should take you no more than 5 minutes to find the study. You can search the whole Internet for the study, or, if you prefer, you can search SLC. Take your pick. In fact, my daughter's can find the document in no time flat.
So what's your excuse? Are you a computer illiterate, or are you a liar with something to hide?
And maybe you can explain why your fellow faggot, Cowardly, refuses to reproduce Rich Lee's letter.
Hiding something, scumbag?
March 2012
Of course you have something to hide.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass?
Gayer than a tree-full of parrots, aren't you, felcher?
Should we expect less from a degenerate who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I am not going to spend 5 seconds looking for something when I have no reason to believe it exists.
It is for you to support your claims.
Lying again, scumbag? Of course you're lying. After all, lying is all you know. Lying is your one and only "skill."
You know the document exists because YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE THREAD. And you won't do the "google" [SIC] search because you're a lying troll who repeatedly lied about your alleged "google" skills.
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
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I am not going to spend 5 seconds looking for something when I have no reason to believe it exists. The person who claims it exists is an obsessive liar.
It is for you to support your claims.
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Goat fucker, you've never proven that I'm a liar. So we can delusional to the list of your wonderful personal qualities.
So why are you lying to us, goat fucker?
How do you explain all the fibrous glass, asbestos fibers, mineral wool, fiberglass, gypsum, wood, glass, paper, cotton, asbestos and fly ash in the 4000 first responders' lungs?
You're a liar, and the studies published by the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and Environmental Health Perspectives prove that you're full-of-shit.
But you won't do the "google" search because to do so will bring the lie to your bullshit propaganda.
You're as transparent as the air between your ears.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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You lie in almost every post. You make claims that are not true, and that you have no way of knowing. You do this so habitually that you don't even notice it.
Another 100% fact-free assertion, liar? You wouldn't happen to have any links to substantiate your lies, would you, gerbil monger? I thought not. Oh, that's right! You don't know the first thing about the proper use of "google" [SIC]. My bad.
See? You lie first, last, and always.
So what happened to your "google" [SIC] skills? Or do you have something to hide?
I vote for the latter.
See? You're as transparent as the air between your ears.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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I needn't link anything because you lie right here. Repeatedly and obsessively.
Goat fucker, you are a proven liar. You're also a pervert with boundary issues:
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Thus, no sane person believes a word that emanates from your semen-encrusted keyboard. And we know you're lying because you can't produce the links to substantiate your lies.
So why are you lying to us, goat fucker?
How do you explain all the fibrous glass, asbestos fibers, mineral wool, fiberglass, gypsum, wood, glass, paper, cotton, asbestos and fly ash in the 4000 first responders' lungs?
You're a liar, and the studies published by the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and Environmental Health Perspectives prove that you're full-of-shit.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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Hey goat fucker, if I'm a liar, why do I keep giving you a direct link to SLC where you'll find the links and the footnotes?
Obviously, I have nothing to hide.
So what are you hiding, liar?
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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You keep making claims you won't support. Like a Ranke or a Balsamo you are trying to make a virtue out of your refusal to support your claims.
There's your link, goat fucker.
March 2012
Now use your alleged "google" skills and post the relevant links to SLC. I won't hold my breath waiting for the links. After all, you have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Now post more dumbspam, gay boi.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
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You're a liar. That's not a link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences.
That's a link ot a blog.
No, it's the same link I've given to you at least a dozen times in this thread alone. Yet, you steadfastly refuse to post the links to SLC.
Thus, the liar can be found, as always, between your chair and your keyboard.
What are you afraid of, gerbil monger? What happened to you alleged "google" [SIC] skills?
You lie, and lie, and lie, and lie and lie.
Now post more dumbspam, gay boi.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
March 2012
You can search the whole Internet for the study, or, if you prefer, you can search SLC. Take your pick. In fact, my daughter's can find the document in no time flat.
Are you going to let three adolescent girls put you to shame, Mr. Computer Illiterate.
Silly gurl.
Now post more dumbspam, gay boi.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
I am not going to spend 5 seconds looking for something when I have no reason to believe it exists.
That's exactly why NIST did not need to test for explosives. Sounds like you're finally getting it.
Nope. NIST was supposed to do an investigation. Standard practice under NFPA 921 was that when you have high-order damage, you test for explosives and incendiaries.
They were supposed to explain why and how the towers collapsed. They claim they explained why, but since they admit they can't explain how, their claim is suspect. Explosives and incendiaries would explain why and how. So there is reason to think they might find evidence of explosives.
That's NIST. I am not under any obligation to investigate ButtGale's claims. He's an obsessive liar, so there's no reason to believe them. It is sufficient for me to point out that he refuses to support them.
Yo! Goat fucker, if I'm a liar, why do I keep giving you a direct link to SLC where you'll find the links and the footnotes?
March 2012
Obviously, I have nothing to hide.
So what are you hiding, liar?
Obviously, you lied--repeatedly--about your alleged "google" skills, just as you lie about everything else. FACT: Every word that emerges from your semen-encrusted keyboard is a lie.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
You're hiding the link to the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. Give me link to the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences. Not to some blog where any idiot is allowed to post any old lie.
There you go again. You just can't stop posting dumbspam, can you?
Do you think that posting the same dumbspam over-and-over again will convince anyone that you're anything other than a degenerate and a proven compulsive liar?
Pathetic.
So what are YOU hiding, Pinocchio? After all, YOU PARTICIPATED IN THE MARCH 2012 THREAD. So are you senile or a compulsive liar with something to hide? Take your pick, gerbil monger.
March 2012
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Which March 2012 thread? There are several. Why are you obfuscating like a Bushbot?
You've had over 60 hours to find the links, goat fucker.
Any idiot using a simple process of elimination (that is, reading every thread) could have found the links in 60 hours. No "google" necessary.
I gave you the links on a silver platter...
March 2012
...and you still can't find the links. Are you an idiot, or do you have something to hide?
So when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
What's wrong with you, goat fucker?
Gerbil got your tongue?
So what are you trying to hide, liar?
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Lefty gate keeper trashes Dick Gage's bullshit presentations.
If you are a neocon or an Israel firster you won't like what this guy has to say about US foreign policy but he clearly has no use for twoofers or twooferism.
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ButtGale, why are you obfuscating like a Bushbot? Why won't you support your claims? Why are you playing games?
Did you ever figure out why the NRDC's claim was absurd that all 424,000 tons of concrete was pulverized?
That's right, goat fucker, CHANGE THE SUBJECT. Anything but do that "google" search.
March 2012
Pathetic.
"...Did you ever figure out why the NRDC's claim was absurd that all 424,000 tons of concrete was pulverized?"
Is this another example of your "calculations," which have a built in error factor of plus-or-minus and order of magnitude?
The World Trade Center Towers were constructed with 425,000 cubic yards of concrete. There are 2400 kg/cubic meter. That means the World Trade Center Towers were constructed with 780,000 metric tons of concrete (ie., 860,000 short tons). Thus, once again, you're full-of-shit, goat fucker.
FAIL
So when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
Oh so there wasn't 424,000 tons of concrete in the WTC? Then why did you quote NRDC saying there was?
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2011/03/hug-truther.html
You said: "My estimated value for iron-rich and alumino-silicate spheres is quite accurate. And I quote: '...September 11th created an unparalleled, high-intensity pollution discharge. As discussed more fully in Chapter I, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of types of contaminants thrown into the air when the towers collapsed. It is estimated that 424,000 tons of concrete and an additional 485,000 tons of “miscellaneous” building contents (computers, office furniture, lighting, mechanical and electrical units, floor finishes etc.) were destroyed. . . .'"
Poor liar can't even keep track of his lies.
Now when are you going to give me the link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to support your claim that the first responders had fly ash in their lungs?
And when are you going to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started?
My lies? You just quoted the NDRC.
How do the NDRC's estimates become my lies?
Talking out of both sides of your mouth again, goat fucker?
You just wrote--and I quote "...Did you ever figure out why the NRDC's claim was absurd that all 424,000 tons of concrete was pulverized?"
So by my calculations, the WTC had FAR MORE than 424,000 tons of concrete. The WTC towers were constructed with 860,000 short tons of concrete.
Talking out of both sides of your mouth again, goat fucker?
So when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
The NRDC estimates become your lies because you cited them--you bolded them--claiming that they supported your calculations.
But let's not change the subject. When are you going to give me the link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to support your claim that the first responders had fly ash in their lungs?
When are you going to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started?
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"...The NRDC estimates become your lies because you cited them--you bolded [SIC] them--claiming that they supported your calculations."
False.
First of all, where does the NRDC say that 424,000 tons of concrete comprised ALL the concrete in the towers?
Citation, please.
Answer: It doesn't.
So what do we have here?
Answer: Another straw man argument.
As usual, you deliberately misinterpreted my argument and the data provided by the NRDC.
If you had a brain in your microcephalic noggin, you'd know that 424,00 tons of pulverized concrete makes up about 54% of the total weight of the concrete used to construct the WTC.
So what's absurd about that estimation?
Answer: Nothing.
The only absurdity is YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE DATA AND THE NRDC'S ARGUMENT.
Thus, all you have are logical fallacies and deliberate misinterpretation of the data.
So what's new? Same shit, different day.
FAIL
So when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
March 2012
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
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Correction:
"424,00 tons" should read 424,000 tons.
Correction:
"54%" should read 45%. Sorry for the typo. (By the way, the actual percentage is 49.302%). My bad.
More spambunking from GutterBeachnut. Keep yapping, chubsy: you're making Pat look less senile by comparison.
ButtGale, when are you going to give me the link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to support your claim that the first responders had fly ash in their lungs?
When are you going to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started?
Yo Ali! You're up early. Isn't it time for you to face Mecca and sexually abuse a young Arab boy? What a charming guy.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
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"...when are you going to give me the link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to support your claim that the first responders had fly ash in their lungs?"
Sure, just as soon as you apologize for lying to me and the readers.
"...When are you going to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started?"
I've already explained it--you insane liar.
When do you plan to apologize for lying about the NDRC and the fly ash in the concrete dust cloud?
And when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
March 2012
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
So you're not going to provide a link to the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences to support your claim that the first responders had fly ash in their lungs?
And you're not going to explain how microspheres from cleanup ops got to Brooklyn Bridge before the cleanup ops even started?
The NYT says 424,000 tons of concrete was used to construct the towers.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CFYQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2006%2F02%2F03%2Fnyregion%2F03suit.html&ei=SiAUUOGZHcajrQGEroDIAQ&usg=AFQjCNGTceRUGXXwcBlqPz9yxeZKD9nlrg&sig2=OthOs-rD2W3d8nZ5rS4Q3Q
The NRDC says 424,000 tons of concrete was destroyed when the towers came down.
Still trying to bury your latest humiliating defeat in dumbspam?
The only source you have is the NY Times? Sorry, but the NYT is full of shit.
Why don't you try to prove that my calculation is in error. Oh that's right! You don't have the education to do that.
And when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
425,000 cubic yards of concrete used in the construction of the World Trade Center complex. -- New York State Museum.
So what were you saying liar. And I can provide dozens more sources, too.
And when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
temscul
In other words, you can't support your claims. Thanks for making that clear. You're a liar.
"...In other words, you can't support your claims. Thanks for making that clear. You're a liar."
You know, goat fucker, it's a wonder that you don't choke on your hypocrisy.
You lied about the fly ash in the concrete dust; you lied about NDRC's data and deliberately misinterpreted my argument; you lied about your non-existent education; you lie about your alleged "google" [SIC] skills.
So when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
March 2012
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
In other words, you can't support your claims. Thanks for making that clear. You're a liar.
Still trying to bury your latest humiliating defeat in dumbspam, shit-for-brains?
And when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
March 2012
And when do you plan to apologize for lying about the fly ash in the concrete dust? When do you plan to apologize for lying about NDRC's data and deliberately misinterpreted my argument? When do you plan to apologize for lying about your non-existent education? When do you plan to apologize for lying about your alleged "google" [SIC] skills?
Yeah, I know, when Hell freezes over. Right, you insane sex predator?
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
In other words, you can't support your claims. Thanks for making that clear. You're a liar, and your phony demands for apologies fool only the intellectually impaired.
Still spamming the thread with your lying bullshit, while you steadfastly refuse to prove your "google" expertise, liar? Furthermore, I proved my claims back in March 2012, when I handed you your head in the "debate," liar. And you know it, shit-for-brains. How many times must I repeat myself, asshole?
You couldn't find your ass with a hunting dog and compass.
And when do you plan to prove your "google" expertise, liar?
March 2012
Just admit it, goat fucker: You're lying. Just like you lied about your non-existent "education" (tell us more about △T, charlatan); just like you lied about your alleged "google" skills; just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001. Obviously, you lie first, last, and always.
Now post more dumbspam, degenerate.
So tell us, goat fucker, have you always had the words "Pound it!" tattooed to your ass? Harvey Fierstein wants to know. What's wrong with you, goat fucker? Why do you delight in Harvey's pain?
Should we expect less from a psychopath who has a gerbil collection that would put Harvey Fierstein to shame? Probably not.
9/11 Sex Stalker Brian Good Unmasked!
In other words, you can't support your claims. Thanks for making that clear. You're a liar, and your phony demands for apologies fool only the intellectually impaired.
Then the demands must fool you, snot gobbler. After all, you're the poster child for "intellectually impaired."
That's why you don't have a clue about "google." Sharp as a marble, aren't you goat fucker?
Sexually harassed any happily married troofers lately, felcher?
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Why do you link obsessively to the website of the lying jew-hater, Kevin Barrett? Could it be because you feel a kinship with a fellow child-abuser?
I don't see any links, queer boi.
So why did you lie about your alleged "google" skills, queer-bait?
Sexually harassed any happily married troofers lately, felcher?
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You don't see the link right there in your own post? Did anyone ever tell you you're not very bright?
Mr. Gage is not trying to appeal to academics. Criticizing him for not achieving what he's not trying to do hardly seems fair.
Lame excuse Brian. Its a scientific subject meant to be debated in academia...not a popularity contest where consent is given by the most number of people. Its the same "teach the controversy stupidity
paraded around by creationists.
What academic forums has Dr. Jones "ran from"?
Where has he attempted to present? Its his job to seek them, not the other way around. His creation of the Journal of 9/11 Studies & going to Bentham pay to play is complete evidence he is avoiding scrutiny. But since you asked:
"Brigham Young University placed physics professor Steven Jones on paid leave Thursday in order to review his controversial research on the collapse of the World Trade Center...BYU has a policy of academic freedom, but what's expected is that professors submit their work to academic peer reviews so it can be challenged and debated by experts" (9/8/06)
http://archive.sltrib.com/article.phpid=4306831&itype=NGPSID&keyword=&qtype=
"'I am electing to retire so that I can spend more time speaking and conducting research of my choosing,' Jones said in an interview Friday...In September, the university...placed Jones on paid leave in order to conduct a professional review of his controversial Sept. 11 theories. ...but it has been canceled due to Jones' retirement
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_4528049
You're not addressing the issue: that nobody in academia had the courage to try to refute Dr. Jones's work. You continue to act as if it was Jones's choice not to publish in a respectable journal.
And you're failing to show he attempted to get published in one. So far all he has done is go out of his way to get published in fraud journals. That would raise a red flag for a sane person. He does not deserve to be taken seriously until he behaves like a serious scientist. No one is addressing flat earthers either. Sorry Brian, excuses are not evidence.
Dr. Millette's findings have not been replicated by anybody. Are you disputing the propositions that running a simple confirming test would strengthen his case, and that failing to do so weakens it?
Has Jones'? Oh right, 1 schmo posted a youtube video. Truthers don't have to publish in real journals I forgot. Jones has yet to publish in a real journal. Millette (an reputable forensic scientist) is currently undergoing a real peer review by a real journal in the relevant field. You're hand waving isn't impressive. Jones is hiding. You can't wish away reality.
Also, to assume that Dr. Millette's chips are identical to Jones's is unintelligent.
Claiming they are not without evidence is exponentially worse. When are you publishing Brian?
I don't know where Jones and Harrit tried to publish. And I don't know why publishers rejected their paper--if they rejected it. At one time the paper was about twice its current length.
So we have no evidence they actually did. But like I said, if they couldn't get published anywhere on the planet that would raise flag for a sane person, a loon assumes cover up.
I have never stuck my neck out for Dr. Jones's work, so if the nanothermite turns out to be hooey it hurts me not a bit. If it is hooey I'm sorry it was not refuted years ago by respectable academics.
Dr. Millette's work is unfortunately not satisfactory.
Uh huh...so says Brian the non internet expert. Let us know when you have anything published, scratch that....a degree in any remotely relevant field...mmmkay?
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WAAAAH WAAAAHH WAAAAAH!!! STOP CHALLENGIN MY TWOOF!
Cosmo is back everyone.
SpamMasterDreck is just spewing his unsourced babble as usual
Like it would matter if I sourced it:
-Bentham Spam
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2008/04/some-background-on-bentham-open-but.html
http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/7059.html
-See my response to Brian about Jones dodging scrutiny.
-Bentham contributors resign
http://activistteacher.blogspot.com/2010/11/editor-in-chief-resigned-over-harrit-et.html
http://videnskab.dk/teknologi/chefredaktor-skrider-efter-kontroversiel-artikel-om-911
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2009/06/bentham-editors-resign.html
-Bentham publishes pure nonsense.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17288-crap-paper-accepted-by-journal.html
-Jones "welcomes" Griscom in 2010.
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-12-02/peer-reviewer-active-thermitic-materials-paper-identifies-himself-great
-Griscom in JONES in 2007
http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters.html
-Griscom found in acknowledgments of Active nanothermite study p. 30 in 2009
http://www.benthamscience.com/open/tocpj/articles/V002/7TOCPJ.pdf
Get crying Cosmo. Facts suck huh?
Claiming to defer to Millette's "authority" is admitting he's clueless about repeatability and the scientific method.
Actually what I was "deferring" to was the actual peer review by actual "experts" in the field. But I understand your confusion about the usage of the plural form of "experts". Given the intellectual rigor of your post history I won;t be putting much stock in your grasp of elementary English.
I mean Millette could be like Jones and create his own peer review or just pay someone to put it on the internet for him. But I get the feeling that he wants more than the amount of scrutiny Jones was subjected to when trying to prove Jesus took a red eye to North America.
Do you also agree with Pat Curley that there's no way to distinguish fly ash from cutting-torch residues or nanoenergetic by-products, spambunker? Why or why not?
Are you really still crying about this?
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GMS, of course the subject is meant to be debated in academia, but it seems the academics are afraid to debate it. So Gage does a road show to try to at least stir up some volunteer action.
I don't know where Dr. Jones has tried to present. Your implication that Dr. Jones retired because he was afraid of an academic review is not justified. Have you ever read the silly letter about Jones that Dr. Firmage was foolish enough to publish?
You provide no evidence that Dr. Jones went "out of his way to get published in fraud journals", your claim that Jones is hiding does not change the fact that Dr. Millette's work has not been replicated by anybody, and the "schmo" who replicated some of Jones's findings is an employee of a respected testing agency.
Are you another one of these guys who is so challenged logically that you can not recognize that rejecting an unjustified assumption is not the same thing as claiming its opposite?
Most people are perfectly rational when it comes to practical logic such as is used in driving. Why don't you pass on a hill? Because you don't know if a car is coming! You can't assume that there is no car coming, so passing on a hill is dangerous. Everybody knows that.
But most debunkers employ logic that is the equivalent of saying "I'm going to pass on this hill because you can't prove there's a car coming" without a clue as to how silly it is.
GMS, of course the subject is meant to be debated in academia, but it seems the academics are afraid to debate it. So Gage does a road show to try to at least stir up some volunteer action.
And how do you know they are afraid to debate? You see Brian, the thing you keep missing, willingly or not, is that academics subject their work to scrutiny. Gage & the gaggle either choose to not, or are not meeting muster anywhere on the planet. Again, sane people know why that is.
I don't know where Dr. Jones has tried to present.
So your claims of academics being "afraid" is unfounded.
Your implication that Dr. Jones retired because he was afraid of an academic review is not justified.
Yet he dodged scrutiny. They said they would do an academic review, he retired instead. That's a fact.
Have you ever read the silly letter about Jones that Dr. Firmage was foolish enough to publish?
What has that got to do with Jones avoiding scrutiny by multiple departments from his own university? A person with something to prove would demand a public defense. A charlatan does something else entirely.
You provide no evidence that Dr. Jones went "out of his way to get published in fraud journals"
Well Brian can you tell me where else he tried to get published? No? Huh...that's funny. We do know he created his own peer review and published in a BS journal. It appears all the evidence points in that direction other than you claiming to not know where he proves otherwise.
your claim that Jones is hiding does not change the fact that Dr. Millette's work has not been replicated by anybody,
When was Jones' btw? When was Jones' subjected to a real peer review? Oh right..he didn't. But since its "the truth" he gets a pass. So far Jones is down by 2.
and the "schmo" who replicated some of Jones's findings is an employee of a respected testing agency.
Wait...so Basile "replicated" some of Jones's study, which I am pretty sure he didn't replicate anything as his methodology was drastically different, yet oddly Brian you seem to think his study grants credence to Jones, while hand waving away Millette's study because he didn't replicate 1 aspect of Jones' self concocted protocol that has no use in identifying thermite. But I guess since he posted it on youtube, like any reputable academic would do, and you declare based on your exhaustive experience & education whats reputable & what's not, that's good enough. When & where his study be published Brian? Its only been a couple years now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frIpyTBAV_Y&feature=player_embedded#!#t=2m20s
Are you another one of these guys who is so challenged logically that you can not recognize that rejecting an unjustified assumption is not the same thing as claiming its opposite?
When did I do that? Strawman much?
So far Brain you haven't proved:
-Jones or Gage have attempted to engage any meaningful scrutiny.
-Academics are "afraid".
-Millette's study doesn't refute Jones other than you say so.
The facts are that Jones & Gage have yet to undergo any real review anywhere on the planet. And the only response you have is that academics are afraid based on you not knowing where Jones & gage haev attempted to engage such scrutiny. As usual your ignorance is not evidence.
Maybe Brian can tell us where Basile works and how he knows its a "respected testing agency"?
GWS, I knew of Mark Basile's employer at least 8 years before I ever heard of Mark Basile.
You seem to be missing the fact that Dr. Millette's findings have not been replicated by anobody.
Other than that, your post is not worth response.
GWS, I knew of Mark Basile's employer at least 8 years before I ever heard of Mark Basile.
Cool..who is it? And what evidence do you have that they are a "respected testing agency"?
You seem to be missing the fact that Dr. Millette's findings have not been replicated by anobody.
Meanwhile Jones hasn't published his in a real forum, and no one has replicated his either. So far Millette has done more by submitting his to an authority on the subject
Other than that, your post is not worth response.
Well that is a typical post for you when the facts aren't on your side. Keep dancing Brian.
GMS, you keep acting as if Jones had not submitted his paper to respectable publishers. You don't know where he did and did not submit.
I don't think it would be ethical to reveal where Mr. Basile works. I'm sorry I brought it up.
"Are you really still crying about this?"
Cowardly dodge noted. Is it really that hard to answer that question, Spammy? At least my expectations were suitably low...
"...Is it really that hard to answer that question, Spammy?"
That's some serious hypocrisy there, child molester.
After all, when do you respond to questions? Answer: Never.
For example, I asked you to reproduce Rich Lee's letter, word-for-word, and post it SLC. So far, I don't see Rich Lee's letter.
Do you have something to hide, Ali?
Or are you too busy facing Mecca while you molest adolescent Arab boys?
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Nice to know that GutterShill is speaking for SpamMasterWreck now. Spammy must feel so lucky!
I still don't see Rich Lee's letter.
Why is that, Prince Charming?
What are you trying to hide, liar?
Pussy. Coward. Liar. Scumbag.
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Look at you stamping your little pig feet! You're so funny when you're angry!
Hey, gay boi, when do you plan to provide the links? Yeah, I know, when Hell freezes over. Right, scumbag?
Why don't you just admit that you don't know fuck-all about "google"?
Too arrogant and delusional to acknowledge the "troof." Right, Pinocchio?
Should we expect less from a pervert? Probably not.
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I'm not short any links. You are. You're the one that claimed that the Journal of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences said there was fly ash in the first responders' lungs, and you have not provided the links to prove it.
Bullshit! I provided the links back in March 2012. And you know it because YOU participated in the thread. Thus, once again, you're lying.
The only person who has failed to prove himself IS YOU. After all, you claim to be a "google" expert; yet when challenged to produce a couple of links FROM ONE WEBSITE, SLC, YOU FALL FLAT ON YOUR FERRET FACE.
Why is that, liar?
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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You claim you provided the links then, but you won't provide them now, so why should anyone believe you? You don't even try to protect your credibility any more. You just lie like an Ian.
You are truly an idiot, aren't you, goat fucker?
The point--you delusional jerkoff--is to prove that YOU LIED ABOUT YOUR ALLEGED "google" [SIC] skills. Just as you lied about your non-existent education; just as you lie about the events of 11 September 2001.
I'll post the links when I'm damned good and ready. And I'll be ready when I'm satisfied that I've dragged your ass sufficiently through the mud.
Now where are the links, jackass?
You couldn't find your ass with "google," let alone a couple of links from SLC.
Pathetic.
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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UtterFail, every time you claim something proves something you only demonstrate your logical incompetence.
Cocksucker, I still don't see any links. Why is that, liar?
You couldn't find your ass with a hunting dog and a compass.
Now post more dumbspam, cocksucker for 9/11 troof.
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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Poof, poof, poof goes the ButtGale.
That's right, cocksucker, keep spamming the thread.
So where are your links, Mr. "google" [SIC] expert? You lie, and you lie, and you lie, and you lie. When do the lies end, cocksucker for 9/11 troof?
The only person you've managed to discredit is yourself.
What's the matter, felcher, did the Chinese gymnastic team drive you into a masturbatory haze? Maybe when you recover you can vandalize their Wikipedia page for the thousandth time.
Pervert.
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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UtterFail, your pretense that I am failing to provide links is transparent. I haven't failed to provide links. You have.
I don't watch Olympic gymnastics. It's too upsetting to see 15-year-old girls who haven't reached puberty because their training is so stressful. They're freaks like Castrati. It's child abuse.
"...your pretense that I am failing to provide links is transparent. I haven't failed to provide links. You have."
False. I posted the links in March 2012. And YOU participated in the thread. Thus, you are a liar.
What are you trying to hide, Mr. "google" expert? The humiliating defeat you suffered in March 2012? Of course that's what you're trying to hide.
Now spam the thread again, cocksucker, because the more you spam the thread, the closer you come to having your ass handed to you again.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"...I don't watch Olympic gymnastics. It's too upsetting to see 15-year-old girls who haven't reached puberty because their training is so stressful. They're freaks like Castrati. It's child abuse."
Oh, I'm impressed. Crocodile tears from a psychopath and proven sex predator. Isn't that special?
So where are your links, Mr. "google" [SIC] expert?
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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Your demand that I provide your alleged links is silly.
Still spamming the thread, cocksucker?
I've cretainly managed to prove that you're a computer illiterate who doesn't have a clue how to use "google" [SIC].
So why did you lie for months about your thoroughly discredited "google" expertise? Oh, that's right! You lie about your "google" expertise just like you lie about your non-existent "education;" just like you lie about the events of 11 September 2001.
Pathetic.
Now spam the thread again, SUCKER.
SUCKER!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So where are your links, Mr. "google" [SIC] expert?
Should we expect less from a pervert who lies with abandon? Probably not.
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Yo! Cowardly--you scumbag.
Here's what you were so desperate to hide:
Iron Microspheres in the Context of the World Trade Center Dust
Well, let's start with the basics. The World Trade Center was a building with many iron-based components. There were structural components such as beams and electrical conduit. There were building contents such as desks and file cabinets.
Now, the building is hit by two jet airplanes resulting in a fire fed by jet fuel. The electrical system is compromised resulting in high voltage, high amperage electrical arcing between the wires and the conduit. The fire is in a building with a central core of elevator shafts that act like a chimney efficiently providing the oxygen needed for combustion. The air and other gases are flowing with hurricane force speeds. The fire is sufficiently hot to exceed the plastic strength of the structural steel and the building collapses.
What about the iron microspheres? The iron has a thin layer of rust flakes that can be easily removed with sticky tape. The iron is heated red hot or hotter and subjected to hurricane force blast furnace-like wind. The iron flakes are liberated as small particles and some iron is vaporized. Like drops of water, the iron flakes form molten spheres that solidify and fume also condenses into spheres, the most efficient geometrical form. Incidentally, iron is not the only material that formed spheres during the event. Some building material is made of minerals containing aluminum and silicon and alumino-silicate spheres were also observed in the dust.
The formation of iron and other types of spheres at temperature obtainable by the combustion of petroleum or coal-based fuels is not a new or unique process. These spheres are the same as iron and alumino-silicate sphere in the well-studied fly ash formed contaminants as it is burned in furnaces.
Rich Lee
Keep reading the bold font until you get it through your thick skull, cretin.
"...Incidentally, iron is not the only material that formed spheres during the event. Some building material is made of minerals containing aluminum and silicon and alumino-silicate spheres [you mean like the fly ash in lightweight concrete? LOL!) were also observed in the dust."
Thus, your specious "argument" is destroyed.
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Goat fucker,
Here's the thread from March 2012 where I handed you your head, scumbag liar.
Two JREFers Join Truth Action Forums
Now tell us that you didn't "particpate" in the thread, troll.
And here's Environmental Health Perspectives, volume 112 No 15, Nov. 2004:
Induced Sputum Assessment in New York City Firefighters Exposed to World Trade Center Dust.
Now argue that a COMPLETE scientific study of the first reponders' resperatory illnesses only include ONE data point.
You're a cretin--and you didn't spend ONE DAY in university, liar.
You're as transparent as the air between your ears.
Bite me. You lose, scumbag.
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