The Deagle Has Landed

Well, well, look whom Luke Rudkowski is inviting to the 9-11-9 festivities in New York City. None other than Bill "Modified Attack Babboons" Deagle.

Deagle may be best known as the guy who thinks nukes brought down the WTC, but he also claims to have heard about the plot beforehand:

As they lingered over lunch at "a private table for speakers, a sufficient distance from others," an FBI official—"sensing that I was one of the boys, having worked on these sensitive government simulations"—leaned closer to Deagle and confided, "There is, according to our war game simulations and current intelligence, a 95 percent likelihood of a major devastating attack on a city in the northeast within 24 months. It will kill from between 50,000 to 500,000 individuals, and bring about immediate institution of martial law in America and a national implantable ID."

Stunned, Deagle pressed him to repeat the claim, which he did—twice more—and for details about what he really knew. The FBI man talked blandly about the likelihood of an anthrax release, the detonation of a dirty nuclear bomb, even the use of airplanes as weapons. As he talked he became even more specific. The city would be New York. And the chance of it happening was not, as he'd initially suggested, 95 percent—it was 100 percent.

The more the FBI man talked the more Deagle began to realize what he really meant. Finally, the veins in his neck popping in anger and frustration, the words finally spilled out of his mouth. "You are either going to let this happen—or cause it, aren't you!" Deagle almost shouted.

Note in particular that the initial details provided by Deagle's "informant" proved wrong; 9-11 did not kill 50,000 to 500,000 people and did not result in immediate imposition of martial law or a nationwide implantable ID.

And on the scale of crazy, Deagle's story is off the charts, but that's not even close to being the nuttiest thing he's ever said. Not by a wide margin:

Coincidentally, Deagle says he also treated a government worker who'd become ill while working inside massive, city-sized government tunnels and underground facilities in Colorado and Mexico. According to Deagle, there are more than 4,000 of these clandestine underground cities worldwide, including in and around 132 US cities. His patient, he says, "told me about things going on there, literally involving people from out of this world."

BTW, Deagle first came to prominence apparently as the doctor of one of the kids shot at Columbine:

Mark and his mother—and, perhaps strangely, their doctor—soon became fixtures at public events where Mark talked about what had happened to him, his mother Donna offered her motherly perspective and Bill Deagle showed slides of the boy's X-rays and talked about his miraculous recovery. There were plans for a national tour to "promote Christian values," and Mark and his doctor began collaborating on a book so Mark could "get my story out. People are looking for hope."

The book never did get written. Taylor's mother would later break off relations with Deagle, complaining "he tried to control me and my son. It got deeper and deeper. It was insane," says Donna Taylor. She began to believe Deagle was "nuts."

I concur with that diagnosis, Mrs Taylor!

BTW, there's some discussion at TruthMove as to whether this indicates that Luke is going to have separate festivities from the supposed "Real Change and Transparency Conference". I don't know the answer to that, but I can see why he might have since decided to combine forces with Les Jamieson; check out the "Chip-In Widget" on that page; with less than 2 months to go they've raised $55.

More On "Wild Bill" Deagle

Dr. William Deagle has quickly shot to the top of the charts as the nuttiest person in the 9/11 truth movement. He gets a feature article in a Halifax newspaper, which shows even more of his insanity than we have pointed out here. Screw Loose Change even gets a short mention towards the end (we are big in Canada, eh) and thankfully, as it points out he is no longer a practising physician, for good reason.

The story of that gift begins on Saturday, April 24, 1999, when an angelic visitor first appeared while Deagle was praying. "I prayed in tongues privately and, as always, heard the immediate translation in English of the audible voice of God," Deagle wrote of the experience. "God said, "If you are obedient and seek wisdom in prayer tonight, I will reveal to you a great revelation. Go to your vitamin cabinet and take two specific nutrient capsules and pray until you are sound asleep, and I will send forth the angel Gabriel from the Throne Room to show you what you must tell My People!!'" (Strange as it might seem, those "specific" nutrient capsules may have been significant. Read on...)

Gabriel then whisked Deagle off to Kosovo where he not only saw the devastation that war had brought there but also the inside of a "baroque ornate room with high ceilings and chandeliers" where Yugoslav president Slobidan [sic] Milosevic was arguing with a Russian diplomat. Before Deagle could settle in for the discussion, Gabriel hustled him off to a basement room at the White House where Bill Clinton and his advisors were gloating over the success of their effort to demonize Milosevic.

Then, with barely a breath, Bill and Gabe were standing on "a cobbled street in a quaint German city" watching a parade of soldiers wearing blue hats who were marching, Nazi-like, past a reviewing stand while a crowd chanted, "Hail the United Nations World Armed Forces!!

"That, Gabriel confided, was what Kosovo was really all about: another step in the creation of a new world order... The New World Order... The New World Disorder...

All of this does not cause others in the truth movement to disassociate from him of course:

He also claims, of course, to have been a member of what he calls "the inner circle," a claim some of those in the conspiracy world who interview him are quick to pick up on on. Alex Jones, who hosts another popular internet radio all-conspiracy-all-the-time program, introduced Deagle on his show as a man who had "worked for the government at every level...So much of his bio is classified..."

Deagle plays on the power of that mystery, claiming American Special Ops buddies and contacts in high places who tell him things unknown even to the most plugged in. "Senators on the armed forces committee," he boasted to Jones's listeners, "don't know what I know."

Many thanks to the reader who forwarded this great article to me.

More Nuttiness from Fetzer--Guest Post

Update: Kudos to Rob Hinkley, who did this and contacted me with permission to use his name.

This came to me via email yesterday and I didn't get permission to use the person's name, so I'm just putting it here as an anonymous post. As the writer says, this is a hilarious show from Uncle Fetzer, particularly the part about underground camps with "full-size" guillotines. James may have posted on this one already, but it's wacky enough to highlight again. Here's the post:

I don't know if you listened to Fetzer interviewing Bill Deagle on July 6th on Fetzer's RBN Live programme. Fetzer describes as "fascinating" the notion that the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City was attacked with nuclear weapons. Not "stupid", or "simple-minded" or "naive" (or any of the other descriptions he uses for the idea that plane crashes and fires can cause serious structural damage), but "fascinating". Later it veers into stuff about Bush building guillotine-equipped concentration camps, causing Hurricane Katrina, and setting off earthquakes. Extracts below:

After a bit of paranoia about 10-lane NAFTA super-highways slicing the country into dastardly 'economic zones', we get the following take on the Oklahoma City bombing:
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1st hour, 11:40 onward
DEAGLE: "[my patient] in fact was one of the 5 exposed to radiation from exploded micronukes in the Oklahoma City Murrah building that were..."
FETZER: "Micronukes in the Murrah building?"
DEAGLE: "Right."
FETZER: "Fascinating. Fascinating"
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The Oklahoma City bombing was done with... Miniature. Nuclear. Bombs. Fetzer challenges none of this.

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1st hour, 14:00 onward
FETZER: "That [Murrah] building was so solid, it was such a massive edifice, it was inconceivable to me that the alleged cause, this fertiliser bomb, ammonium fertiliser bomb could possibly have done that kind of destruction ..."
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So when a building which 'allegedly' had an airliner flown into it and suffered resulting fires collapses it is obvious to Fetzer that explosives must have been used. After all, impact and fire couldn't *possibly* - to Fetzer's philosophy professor eyes - have caused that much damage.
But when a building is 'allegedly' blown up with 5000lb of explosives it is obvious to Fetzer that much more powerful explosives must have been used. After all, mere explosives couldn't *possibly* - to Fetzer's philosophy professor eyes - have caused that much damage.

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1st hour, 16:30 onward -- the concentration camps!
FETZER: "They're building these detention camps all over the country [...] I just think there's going to be a huge group of us marched off to these detention facilities when they perform the next phoney attack on the US, suspend the constition and turn the American military against the American people."
DEAGLE: [describes giant detention camps which can hold a million people each, including some in Canada with special rail connections, and some of the camps underground such as under 'DIA' (Denver International Airport)]
FETZER: "What in god's name is their plan... I've heard different speculations I've heard reports that they're equipped with full-sized guillotines suggesting that they're going to lop a lot of our heads off. I've also heard the idea of creating huge slave labour camps, so it's even cheaper for American corporations to produce their goods."
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Yes, professor, I've heard the same things too. And thought they were speculative lunatic nonsense. Fetzer challenges none of this.

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2nd hour, 12:00 -- yelling match!
Deagle, who keeps asking Fetzer not to interrupt, is ranting about environmentalists. Fetzer starts yelling that Deagle's being grossly unfair to Al Gore and tells him that when he's on his on his own show he can tell guests to shut up but not when he's on Fetzer's show - oh no not on the Fetzer Show.
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That's not strictly relevant, but I thought it was funny.

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2nd hour, 17:55 -- The chemtrails, HAARP, weather modification, man-made earthquakes!
FETZER: "What's going on with this chemtrail business? What's the purpose of it, what's it accomplishing?"
DEAGLE: "Well its primary purpose is threefold. Number 1 it's to turn the air into a plasma so they can have geo-tectonic effects using scalar satellite-based technologies to trigger what's called the 'peizo-electic slip threshold' with specific harmonic frequencies of any [earthquake?] so they can trigger off an earthquake as a weapon anywhere on Earth, like the Bam earthquake in Bam, Iran that occured a little over a year ago. They can also set up what's called a trans-dimensional vortex..."
FETZER: "Just to translate this for some of our listeners because you're using a lot of very technical scientific language - what you're saying, Bill, let me translate it, is they can affect the weather, that they're doing things that will make the atmosphere more useful as a medium for using HAARP technology to bring about events like earthquakes, hurricanes, the whole bit."
DEAGLE: "Right. And they actually created what's called a trans-dimensional vortex that pulled in the storm cells that formed Katrina over New Orleans, that was done on purpose. Number 3, they're using it so..."
FETZER: "You're saying that Katrina was allowed to grow and become a force-5 hurricane and hit New Orleans on purpose."
DEAGLE: "On purpose."
FETZER: "Just elaborate on why."
DEAGLE: "Because first they had to destroy the oil production facilities down there they had to create a wetland which is part of the hijacking again, the use of the environmentalist movement. They had to allow only certain areas to be rebuilt which is what's happening we see [Donald Trump??]"
FETZER: "Just tell me a bit more about why, why did want to destroy the oil production facilities off the coast of Louisiana?"
DEAGLE: "It's the Goldfinger Effect, which is why we're in Iraq not to steal their oil but so nobody else..."
FETZER: "To make the cost of oil go up and up and up up because the supply has gone down and down and down."
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Just to condense that a little... the chemtrails turn the air into a plasma so satellite-based scalar technologies can trigger earthquakes and a trans-dimensional vortex makes a hurricane so the oil barons can create a wetland... and Fetzer challenges none of this. Now of course I'm not a Distinguised Professor Of Philosophy from Duluth - I'm just some guy who writes software in England - but obvious crap in the above scenario includes, but is not limited to:
"The chemtrails",
"turn the air into a plasma",
"satellite-based scalar technologies",
"can trigger earthquakes",
"a trans-dimensional vortex" and
"makes a hurricane"

As Fetzer would say: Fascinating! Fascinating!

(Pat speaking again: Great post!)

Update: Deagle (at 50:35 of Hour 1): My contacts have told me that our Navy will not survive a war with Iran.

Yet Another Fruitloop

I haven't paid all that much attention to the upcoming Vancouver 9-11 crackpot conference, but Nico Haupt has. He points out that some of the people who are going to be featured at that conference have ties to the US government and to UFO quackery.

One of the conference speakers is Dr. Bill Deagle. Deagle apparently has a show on GCN called the "Nutrimedical Report", where he is described as "a profile physician who dissects the lies behind the current push to cultural acceptance of designer babies, embryo harvesting and animal - human hybrids, euthanasia - on demand from the state or corporations, transhuman cyborg technology, implantable mind control chips, the National and Global ID plans with specific documented technical details."

As if that wasn't loopy enough, check out this wackery from Deagle:

On Saturday, April 24, 1999, I had a supernatural visitation with the angel Gabriel last night. Before I settled in bed to sleep last night, I was in prayer. I prayed in tongues privately, and as always, heard the immediate translation in English of the audible Voice of God.

He said, "If you are obedient and seek wisdom in prayer tonight, I will reveal to you a great revelation. Go to your vitamin cabinet and take two specific nutrient capsules and pray until you are sound asleep, and I will send forth the angel Gabriel from the Throne Room to show you what you must tell My people!!"

In the middle of the night, in the spirit, Gabriel came to me in a dream-vision. He said, "Arise, and come with me to Kosovo. I must show you a Great Revelation, so the people will believe that the Father has sent you to warn his people of many things, for the time is short and judgment is coming as swiftly as eagle's wings."

Still Moron Bill Deagle

Our buddy the Feathered Bastard listened to his speech and points out some of the yet more interesting things Bill "modified attack baboons ate my brain" Deagle had to say:

"I have been in underground cities."

"The only thing that could have done that (brought down the Twin Towers) are nukes. There is no other conclusion. It's not something that's open to discussion."

The entire speech is Stundie material!

Janette MacKinlay Connects Steven Jones to the Nukers

One degree of separation.

In a collaborative effort between Author/Artist/Survivor/Patriot Janette MacKinlay, Physicist Dr. Bill Deagle, MD, and Dr. Ed Ward, MD, MT, WTC debris has been received by a Certified Laboratory for key tests which may show definitive origination for the massive Tritium Levels in the WTC buildings.

And a negative result is not necessarily a negative result:

It is important to remember the amount of debris being tested regarding the relevance of a negative finding in this particular sample. The entire sample is only 7 grams (about 1/80th of a pound) out of 3 billion pounds of debris. Research suggests that only about 10% of debris directly affected by a nuclear explosion will show Neutron Activation. Dr. Deagle and myself encourage others with verified WTC debris to perform their own tests for the presence of isotope ratios that can only be formed during a nuclear reaction on their samples. The Tritium levels prove a nuclear reaction occured. The isotope ratios will verify that proof.

MacKinlay also provided Steven Jones with his dust.

A Report from Conspiracy Con

Over at a local Santa Clara blog.

Dietrich is also a compelling story-teller, and his rococo tales of diabolical practices at the highest levels of military power would stand to make him quite successful as a sci-fi novelist, scriptwriter, or graphic novelist. Except Deitrich doesn't present his dark stories as fiction.

Dietrich covers a lot of ground in his rapid-fire presentation. One minute we're in 12th century Japan, the next in 1945 Okinawa.

Here's a teaser of Deitrich:

WWII didn't end in 1945? Crap, I guess I got that question wrong back in high school.

This is a promising start for an Indiana Jones movie. But, instead of Hollywood-brand escapism, the next hour and a half is a whirlwind roundup of – I'm putting this as plainly as possible – satanic occult practices at the San Francisco Presidio army base, with tangential forays into Roswell and Nazi Germany. Before we're done, we'll make pit stops at the Dresden firebombing, the Holocaust, L.Ron Hubbard, and that noted Satanist Sammy Davis Junior.

If you play "The Candy Man" backwards, it says, "I love Satan."

Our old buddy Sofia from 9-11 Mysteries makes an appearance:

When we look at an organization called MITRE, .you go to their website, and their mission is to set the goals and the template for the…IRS….and they contract with operation cloverleaf… and if you google USA today for May 12…the reporters talk about a thousand particles on the head of a pin….Get those letters and know those individuals. Those are the cross directors of the enemy we have to deal with today."

Unfortunately no info yet on Steven Jones and his perpetual motion machine, or Richard Gage. And I hear that Wild Bill Deagle and his attack baboons made an appearance as well. As a consolation, here's Deagle at last year's con:

It takes him a bit to get started, but there's certainly plenty of wack in there.

On the Gossip Column Thing

James mentioned a few posts ago that Kevin Barrett had called this blog nothing more than a gossip column. There's an element of truth to that claim; I do think I find the personalities more interesting these days than the easily debunked claims.

There is one thing that does concern me, however. When we started this blog, we commonly used terms like nutbars and fruitcakes to describe the Troofers. But at least at first it was more used the way the political blogs might use the terms "wingnut" or "moonbat". It was a term of scorn, but not an attempt at an actual diagnosis.

But as time goes by, I'm starting to wonder. You look at people like Sean Fitzgerald and David Shayler, who have completely lost their minds. Judy Woods, Morgan Reynolds, Uncle Fetzer, Wild Bill Deagle, Kevin Barrett himself; there can't be much doubt that these folks are riding the crazy train, right?

Are we just the equivalent of somebody rattling the bars at the insane asylum, calling for the nuts to come out and entertain us?

Idiotic Loose Change Post of the Day... err Year?

It appears to just be copied from another looney anti-Semitic website, but this post (aside from the really bad Russian) is in Bill Deagle territory for crazy.

Denver International Airport has a 88.3 square mile Deep Underground Military Base underneath it. In other words this base is over 22 miles in diameter. This base goes down over 8 levels. Basically this Deep Underground Military Base is 8 cities on top of each other. The first level starts at around 1 mile undeground. On the eight level is a mag-lev train network that takes you out to hundreds of other Deep Underground Military Bases all over Mexico, America and Canada. This base is connected to the Los Alamos and Dulce Deep Underground Military Bases. There are over 330 such bases under North America and Central America alone. All these bases are run by the ... NSA. The CIA and DIA work with the NSA very closely. This base used to be used as a holding center for millions of adults and children who were kidnapped or abducted from the towns and cities of America and sometimes Canada. The Milk Carton Kids that the FBI used to post on milk cartons were all taken by the NSA for genetic experimentation, microchipping, .... mind control and cybernetic implantations for future used as brainwashed soldiers of the NWO Illuminati. Every year in America over 1 million children go missing and over 450,000 adults go missing. Go to www.missingkids.com for further details. These slave children will be used as effective killing machines against innocent people in America and Canada in
the very near future. As most of you now know there are already over 7 million UNISF and UNMNTF troops stationed across America and Canada readying themselves for the approaching day of Martial Law in America, where millions of Americans will be rounded up, gangraped, sadistically tortured and executed by these Luciferian UNMNTF, UNISF, UNPKF Troops. All these UN Troops are Chinese, Russian, German, Polish, Japanese, Ukrainian, Saudi Arabian, Pakistani, Mexican, Honduran, Salvadorean and Chilean. I know it all sounds like some weird, screwed up conspiracy theory, but i know in my heart that i am only speaking the truth. There isn't much time left for America. Soon events will overtake your reality and what many of us have been warning about will suddenly be revealed to you. Your government is pure evil and does not care for any man, woman or child in America. Remember also that the Illuminati want to reduce the population of America down to only 140 million people by 2015. How do you think they will beable to do this?

Although really, this is just one step beyond what Alex Jones argues every day.

Is Willie Rodriguez the Lindbergh Baby?

Charles Lindbergh was an American hero, the first man to fly the Atlantic Ocean. Years later his baby was kidnapped and held for ransom, and apparently killed even though the ransom money was paid. A German-American named Bruno Hauptmann was eventually convicted of the crime, although conspiracy theories have raged for decades about the matter, and for a time it was fashionable for the tabloids to claim sensationally that one or the other new Hollywood celebrity was secretly the Lindbergh baby.

Of course, given that the Lindbergh baby would now be 77 years old, it seems highly unlikely that Willie Rodriguez could be that former infant, barring some medical miracle from Bill Deagle's pharmacopia. But the Feathered Bastard notes some distinct similarities between the Keymaster and Lucky Lindy.