Thursday, June 08, 2006

Al Zarqawi 6 Feet Under

Terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has recently assumed room temperature, courtesy of the Iraqi Army, the US Air Force and the Army Special Forces. So it should come as no suprise the Loosers over at the Loose Change Forum are going crazy, not at the fact that we got one of the top bad guys in the region, but on how this is a big conspiracy and he is not really dead. Some excerpts from their posts.

LOL! This is like the 3rd time they killed him Guess he's gone for good now. I guess those saggy Bu$h numbers can work wonders in "the war on terror."

maybe he's dead .. maybe he's not. honestly i think its BS and they were just looking to throw out some "uplifting news" since the last big thing we did that was "good" over there was find saddam.

The timing is weird. Why the begining of June?

I heard that he is/was a ficticious person


And some more elaborate theories. I wonder if Operation Northwood is somehow connected?

Last few weeks:
1) Olmert visits White House
2) Tony Blair visits White House
3) They throw Iran a bone
4) Lock down at Capitol for gunshots that they say was construction but that Tom Flocco story (make of it what you will) says otherwise
5) The so called 2nd guy Al QUeda dead? (We NEVER have seen him nor have we seen his body to confirm death.
6) Canada Terror BS
7) US says a terro stike will happen here ala Canada?? Why?These are ingredients for a FALSE FLAG imho

Of course even after been shown the photos of his dead body, the pseudo-scientific photo analysis:

photo 1.
Relatively clean face lying int he rubble with a slight scuffing on the left cheek.

photo 2.
the scuff on the left cheek is visibly much more damaged than the slight scuff on the first photo.

Photo 1 looks like hes been sparked clean out with a good punch to the elft cheek.
Photo 2 looks like hes been shaving too hard and peeled a section off his face.

My paranoid mind immediately questioned this inconsistency considering the first photo was at the scene and the second photo showing more damage was on a white sheet.

It is quite apparent that most of this has little to do with 9/11, it is about latching on to whatever idiotic anti-American conspiracy theory you can, and prattling on endlessly about how much smarter you are, because you don't fall for the conventional story.

42 Comments:

At 08 June, 2006 17:27, Blogger shawn said...

RIP?

If there's a Hell, he's burning up real nice down there.

 
At 08 June, 2006 18:35, Blogger nesNYC said...

Ha ha ha! Like I said before, funny how two 500 lbs bombs leave your head intact! :D

They had this guy in a freezer someplace and know that the Marines are feeling a little heat; they did a quick thaw job. Maybe Osama suffered the same fate? Watch him "appear" right before the elections.

 
At 08 June, 2006 18:52, Blogger James B. said...

My use of that was sarcastic, I hopes he has as unpleasant a rest as possible. I changed it, since I realize most people won't perceive it that way.

Mr. Nintendo Entertainment System in New York City, that has got to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said, which in your case is quite an accomplishment. When did you acquire your recent experience in BDA?

 
At 08 June, 2006 19:02, Blogger shawn said...

Ha ha ha! Like I said before, funny how two 500 lbs bombs leave your head intact! :D

As I already explained, that isn't at all unusual.

They had this guy in a freezer someplace and know that the Marines are feeling a little heat; they did a quick thaw job.

Uh it would be VERY obvious had he been frozen and then thawed. there's more of your psuedoskepticism.

Watch him "appear" right before the elections.

The ones Bush can't run in?

 
At 08 June, 2006 19:07, Blogger shawn said...

And I'd just like to say that today is a great day - another enemy of the free peoples of the world has received the justice he so richly deserved.

 
At 08 June, 2006 20:30, Blogger undense said...

They had this guy in a freezer someplace and know that the Marines are feeling a little heat; they did a quick thaw job. Maybe Osama suffered the same fate? Watch him "appear" right before the elections.

The lefties making that very same claim prior to the 2004 election. If you make enough spurious accusations without proof you're bound to have a hit on rare occassions. However, having a .005% success rate doesn't make you right. And it sure doesn't make you intelligent. But you've already made it vividly clear on this blog that intelligence is not your forte.

 
At 08 June, 2006 20:53, Blogger nesNYC said...

The ones Bush can't run in?

Nah, Bush might just be lucky and get a "national emergency" and be our leader forever. But Bush is not alone up there in DC. All the war hawks that want this war "that will last our lifetimes" need an occasional victory other than the confiscations of other lands. They have to keep up appearances you know. I just heard on the news about another terrorist wanting to take Al-Zarkawi’s place already.

We’ll probably see more staged decapitation videos to give birth to the new boogeyman.

 
At 08 June, 2006 20:59, Blogger nesNYC said...

And I'd just like to say that today is a great day - another enemy of the free peoples of the world has received the justice he so richly deserved.

Some "enemy!" He couldn't even hold a rifle straight! I actually feel sorry for you folks. How does one guy that can't hold an assult rifle pose a threat to "free peoples?"

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free

-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 
At 08 June, 2006 21:04, Blogger nesNYC said...

As I already explained, that isn't at all unusual.

It might be true if he was a few buildings down the block and was crushed by a collapse; but the Pentagon says they got a direct hit at his position and hit it twice! Shouldn't they be picking him up with spoons? Just look at the blast from the plane videos and the resulting smoke. Come on now, I can’t believe you guys are actually falling for this shit!

 
At 08 June, 2006 21:07, Blogger shawn said...

Nah, Bush might just be lucky and get a "national emergency" and be our leader forever.

Bush is the first president since before FDR who hasn't had a national emergency act in effect during in presidency. There had been one on-going from WWII till Clinton ended it.

All the war hawks that want this war "that will last our lifetimes" need an occasional victory other than the confiscations of other lands. They have to keep up appearances you know.

Right, that's why the Iraqis have control of their own elections and their constitution. Do you EVER tire of being wrong? And if the war (the one on terror, not Iraq) lasts our lifetimes, so what? The jihadists started it, we have to end it. No matter how long it takes.

I just heard on the news about another terrorist wanting to take Al-Zarkawi’s place already.

You have a very flimsy grasp of leadership. You can't just step in and be a great leader who everyone wants to rally around (hell, don'y you think a-Qaeda is a government invention? Can't have it both ways).

Some "enemy!" He couldn't even hold a rifle straight! I actually feel sorry for you folks. How does one guy that can't hold an assult rifle pose a threat to "free peoples?"

I bet Hitler wasn't a great warrior either. Zarqawi was a commander, dumbass. Are you that ill-informed?

 
At 08 June, 2006 21:08, Blogger shawn said...

It might be true if he was a few buildings down the block and was crushed by a collapse; but the Pentagon says they got a direct hit at his position and hit it twice! Shouldn't they be picking him up with spoons? Just look at the blast from the plane videos and the resulting smoke. Come on now, I can’t believe you guys are actually falling for this shit!

I've seen the video. You obviously are as ignorant as you are persistent, so you don't understand that the building takes most of the impact. It isn't as if he was hit dead-on.

 
At 08 June, 2006 21:08, Blogger shawn said...

Man, it's like shooting fish in a barrel with you, nesnyc.

 
At 08 June, 2006 21:13, Blogger James B. said...

He was in the basement of the building at the time, and 500 lbs is not a big bomb, it is the smallest they have. During the battle of Mazar-i-Sharif our guys were calling in 500lb JDAMs within 50 meters of their own position. It does not just vaporize everything in sight.

I am suprised you morons aren't claiming the house was wired for demolition yet.

 
At 08 June, 2006 22:53, Blogger default.xbe said...

Nah, Bush might just be lucky and get a "national emergency" and be our leader forever.

i think if he wanted to do that he would have done it on sept 12, 2001 when everyone was waving flags and would have handed over any executive power he wanted

 
At 09 June, 2006 02:12, Blogger nesNYC said...

i think if he wanted to do that he would have done it on sept 12, 2001 when everyone was waving flags and would have handed over any executive power he wanted

Oh, he did. He singed a bunch of EO's that give him dictatorial powers, just in case. What's all that talk about marshal law if the "bird flu" strikes? Before 9/11, that would be a no, no. After, Bush's EO's and patriot acts have the US turned to a police state as soon as the shit hits the fan. We're not far from there. When this happens, you'll remember my words.

 
At 09 June, 2006 02:14, Blogger nesNYC said...

Right, that's why the Iraqis have control of their own elections and their constitution. Do you EVER tire of being wrong?

You really do live in a fantasy world. Even tonight, whith the staged hit on Zarqawi, there were at least 10 bombings in Iraq. I would hardly call that "control of their own" and the words "civil war" come to mind pretty quick.

 
At 09 June, 2006 02:18, Blogger nesNYC said...

Here's another interesting observation form the blog "Another day in the Empire."

Of course, like the al-Zarqawi wearing a gold ring (also forbidden for devout Muslims), the al-Zarqawi sporting tattoos probably was not and never was a Wahhabi Muslim. More likely, the al-Zarqawi we recognize (with a barrage of recent images in preparation for his theatrical exit from the corporate media stage), was a Jordanian patsy, probably a garden variety criminal who served prison time and was groomed by Jordan’s Dairat al-Mukhabarat intelligence service to believe he was engaged in a jihad against the Great Satan.

STAGED.

 
At 09 June, 2006 02:26, Blogger nesNYC said...

I've seen the video. You obviously are as ignorant as you are persistent, so you don't understand that the building takes most of the impact. It isn't as if he was hit dead-on.

Um, TWICE? Give me a break! I think I'll start calling you guys the "Make it fit" crew. I've never run into a more completely hypnotized bush of apologists ever!

CNN:

An F-16 jet dropped two 500-pound bombs on the house, reducing it to rubble. (Watch how al-Zarqawi's final moments unfolded -- 2:27)

Al-Zarqawi's corpse was found in the debris.


Go look at that video, what building was standing for the second bomb? GEEEEEZZZZ!

 
At 09 June, 2006 04:31, Blogger Alex said...

Yep, thats right, more incompetence from the US administration. While "staging" the Zarkawi hit, they figgured:

"hey, instead of just saying we shot him, why don't we say we dropped two 500lb bombs on him? And, even better, then we'll release pictures of him in one piece, with minor looking bruising! We HAVE to make it looks suspicious! Otherwise in-sync might run out of conspiracy theories!"

 
At 09 June, 2006 05:37, Blogger shawn said...

Um, TWICE? Give me a break! I think I'll start calling you guys the "Make it fit" crew. I've never run into a more completely hypnotized bush of apologists ever!


...well my ignorant as you are persistent statement still stands.


STAGED.

So all those poor foreign fighters (and some Iraqis) rallied around a patsy? Jeez, wouldn't you think they could see through his supposed bs? You truly are the king of morons. (You and your idiotic ilk think they're going to follow the rules of their religion to a t. They only use the religion to impose their will on others, don't you geniuses get that?)

Even tonight, whith the staged hit on Zarqawi, there were at least 10 bombings in Iraq. I would hardly call that "control of their own" and the words "civil war" come to mind pretty quick.

Oh god here comes the civil war chant. That doesn't change the fact they elected their own government, moron.

 
At 09 June, 2006 05:44, Blogger MarkyX said...

Man oh man, the gold ring shill again.

You have any proof it was REAL gold? You people still believe the confession was fake still after numerous evidence!

 
At 09 June, 2006 08:20, Blogger James B. said...

I am still amazed at the ability to detect the metalurgical properties of jewelry from photos on the Internet.

Do you do party tricks too?

 
At 09 June, 2006 08:51, Blogger undense said...

Al-Zarqawi's corpse was found in the debris.

According to CNN now:

http://tinyurl.com/j263x

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive on a stretcher when U.S. troops first reached him after an airstrike near Baquba, a U.S. military spokesman said Friday.

Iraq's most wanted terrorist mumbled something indistinguishable and tried to move before he died, U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell told reporters.

"Zarqawi did survive the airstrike," Caldwell said. "We did in fact see him alive."


OMG! A sure sign of a conspriacy. CNN was lying to us initially, now they've changed their story. No doubt this is part and parcel of the COINTELPRO disinformation campaign by the .GOV!

/CT mode off

 
At 09 June, 2006 09:07, Blogger nesNYC said...

He singed a bunch of EO's that give him dictatorial powers, just in case.

Heed the warnings!

 
At 09 June, 2006 09:17, Blogger James B. said...

LOL Your evidence is Daniel Ellsburg? Dude, you are about 30 years too late.

He thinks the "next 9/11" is the reichstag fire, not the original. The least you guys could do is get your Hitler analogies straight.

 
At 09 June, 2006 09:55, Blogger nesNYC said...

LOL Your evidence is Daniel Ellsburg? Dude, you are about 30 years too late.

Who's saying anything about evidence; he's just someone who sees what I see. Now go do your homework and look up Bush's EO's after 9/11. That's my proof; you'll just have to prove it to yourself.

 
At 09 June, 2006 10:08, Blogger James B. said...

You are making the ridiculous claim, you do the homework. How am I supposed to find something that doesn't exist?

Please list the executive orders which give Bush dictatorial power. They are even numbered for your convenience.

 
At 09 June, 2006 10:19, Blogger nesNYC said...

How am I supposed to find something that doesn't exist?

I know what they are and where to find them and what they mean. But I'm going to stop spoon feeding you. That's one of the main problems here; you can easily discount anything I write as "kooky" without going to get the goods yourself. If you want to turn a blind eye, then it's pretty understandable why you want to remain ignorant of the facts.

 
At 09 June, 2006 10:40, Blogger James B. said...

Yeah, great excuse. And I have proof that Elvis is living in my basement, but I am not going to show it to you, because I want you to do the work to find it yourself.

 
At 09 June, 2006 11:03, Blogger undense said...

I know what they are and where to find them and what they mean. But I'm going to stop spoon feeding you. That's one of the main problems here; you can easily discount anything I write as "kooky" without going to get the goods yourself. If you want to turn a blind eye, then it's pretty understandable why you want to remain ignorant of the facts.

I've got all the answers that debunk every one of your "facts" and I know what the are. But I'm not going to spoon feed them to you. Go search for them yourself or remain forever ignorant.

 
At 09 June, 2006 12:09, Blogger LT said...

NESNYC
IF you knew anything about explosives and blasts, you would understand that most death and injury from blast are NOT FROM SHRAPNEL. BLAST OVERPRESSURE (GIGANTIC INCREASES IN ATMOSPHERIC PRESSURE)at and near the explosion, is what actually causes death. It turns your INSIDES to mush.

 
At 09 June, 2006 15:52, Blogger Dan Simpson said...

"What's all that talk about marshal law if the "bird flu" strikes?"

Who in the world is Marshal, and what is his law about. Oh, you mean martial law.

Don't worry this is the least ridiculous mistake you have made. Read Its post above. It may give you an idea of how explosion deaths happen. Then if you don't believe it, research suicide bombings in Israel. Often when x-rays are taken, the insides appear solid white. It is because the concussion has destroyed internal organs, and it often happens with little to no outside scarring.

 
At 10 June, 2006 05:21, Blogger JoanBasil said...

I have 2 words for you: Jessica Lynch. Someone in the military concocted the story of a female Rambo and gave it to the Washington Post. Even though it was a pack of lies, the Washington Post hasn't exposed the lying liars in the US military, their "sources." The US media has proven time and again that it will protect their sources ability to lie and spread pro-war propaganda to the American public.

 
At 10 June, 2006 07:10, Blogger undense said...

I have two words for you joan - Quran toilet.

I have three words for you - Secret Detention Camps (Leaked information for which two separate investigations have utterly failed to show the existence of)

I have two more words (actually, an acronym and a word) - NSA spying (another massive leak)

And some of those stories were broken by the Washington Post, the same WaPo that you seem to be accusing of being an admin shill.

It's so easy to grab something out of the air and turn it into a massive conspiracy, if you're ignorant enough to believe in that sort of thing or if you only focus on one side of the equation, as you seem to do.

 
At 10 June, 2006 09:48, Blogger shawn said...

I have 2 words for you: Jessica Lynch

Nobody ever called her a Rambo. The media loves victims and she was a victim. I would've rather heard the story of the people who died fighting off the insurgents.

 
At 10 June, 2006 16:45, Blogger Alex said...

See, now if the original story had been that Jessica Lynch had butchered innocent Iraqi kids, Joan wouldn't be complaining that we don't know where the story comes from - instead she'd be insisting that the story is "false, but accurate". Beause it's only wrong to write stories which make the military look GOOD. If a story makes them look bad, who cares if it's true or not. Right Joan?

 
At 10 June, 2006 17:54, Blogger nesNYC said...

On Cue, new boogeyman named! This is priceless. Hate to say it but I TOLD YOU SO! Expect the fake beheading videos to commence shortly.

Abu Ayyub al-Masri
Caldwell also said the man he thinks is a possible successor to Zarqawi as leader of the shadowy terrorist group known as al-Qaidi in
Iraq has been operating in Iraq longer than Zarqawi and that the two first met in
Afghanistan. He was referring to Abu Ayyub al-Masri, whom he described as an Egyptian-born terrorist leader.

He said al-Masri has had "communications" with
Osama bin Laden's chief lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri. He did not elaborate and would not say whether al-Masri also has been in touch with bin Laden, who is believed to be hiding in Pakistan.


I'll call him the Phoenix man, reborn from the ashes of Zarqawi.

 
At 10 June, 2006 18:06, Blogger Alex said...

Faked beheadings eh? How I'd love to see you take a stroll down the streets of Baghdad. Preferably wrapped in a large american flag, holding a sign that says "Al-Qaeda can blow me".

 
At 10 June, 2006 21:14, Blogger undense said...

On Cue, new boogeyman named! This is priceless. Hate to say it but I TOLD YOU SO! Expect the fake beheading videos to commence shortly.

Proof he's a "boogeyman" instead of your usual spewing of conjecture as fact?

I TOLD YOU SO!

lol. As if it was so hard to guess al Qaeda would replace Zaqwari. Are you really so mentally deficient, or do you just enjoy your role as an ignorant troll that people laugh at?

 
At 12 June, 2006 10:56, Blogger James B. said...

As I have said before, the difference between a conspiracy theory and a scientific theory is the ability to make accurate predictions. Compare this news report with the posts on here describing the effects of bombs.

Col. Steve Jones, command surgeon for Multinational Forces, said an autopsy concluded that al-Zarqawi died from serious injuries to his lungs in Wednesday's airstrike. An FBI test positively identified al-Zarqawi's remains.

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, a spokesman for the U.S. military in Baghdad, said U.S. forces arrived about 28 minutes after a fighter jet bombed al-Zarqawi's hideout outside Baqouba. Medics secured al-Zarqawi's airway but his breathing was shallow and labored, and he expelled blood from his mouth.

"It was very evident he had extremely massive internal injuries," Caldwell said.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060612/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_al_zarqawi

 
At 12 June, 2006 19:28, Blogger nesNYC said...

lol. As if it was so hard to guess al Qaeda would replace Zaqwari. Are you really so mentally deficient, or do you just enjoy your role as an ignorant troll that people laugh at?

That's "al-CIA-duh" to you son. Oh and did you see the latest beheading videos like I predicted? On cue.

 
At 13 June, 2006 05:39, Blogger Alex said...

Predicting that terrorists will behead someone? That's rather like predicting the sun will rise tomorrow. You're no Nostradamus boy.

 

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