Saturday, August 26, 2006

Aussie Alert



Loose Change 2 to air on the History Channel, Australia as part of a September 11th marathon.

Perhaps the Naudets would be interested in learning this?

56 Comments:

At 26 August, 2006 10:25, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

maybe the copyright laws are different there...maybe their idea's down under of what a "documentary" is, allow them to include videos with intentional lies in them, as well as multiple mistruths and speculation...i dunno...I would hope it wouldn't fly up north here...

 
At 26 August, 2006 10:45, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Apparently Dutch, Swiss, and Belgium Public TV are going to show it as well...

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?s=0be7c303a699421f9b3c23003dc1d8f3&showforum=28

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:01, Blogger nesNYC said...

Apparently Dutch, Swiss, and Belgium Public TV are going to show it as well...

There goes the neighborhood! LOL!

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:21, Blogger Ronin said...

I agree people talking about theories is unhealthy for the world i mean hey we should all just ask bush to write us a bible so well be better able to serve him.Hail furor!

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:26, Blogger shawn said...

I agree people talking about theories is unhealthy for the world i mean hey we should all just ask bush to write us a bible so well be better able to serve him.Hail furor!

It's heil and Fuhrer.

It's unhealthy to believe in something that has no evidence for it.

It's not like you're the first 12 year old who couldn't make a good argument.

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:47, Blogger nesNYC said...

It's heil and Fuhrer.

We're talking about Dumbya here no the real McCoy...

 
At 26 August, 2006 12:49, Blogger nesNYC said...

It's not like you're the first 12 year old who couldn't make a good argument.

Fool me once... shame on, uh.. you? Fool me twice.. eh.. um.. you can't fool me again..

--Dumbya

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:01, Blogger shawn said...

Fool me once... shame on, uh.. you? Fool me twice.. eh.. um.. you can't fool me again..

--Dumbya


Never said the guy was the brighest bulb in the circuit.

...hmmm so you and he have something in common.

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:13, Blogger Alex said...

The difference is, Dubya's not a paranoid schizophrenic. So while him and insync may be on-par as far as intellect is concern, Bush has the clear advantage; he's not handicapped by a crippling fear of Joos hiding under his bed.

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:44, Blogger nesNYC said...

...hmmm so you and he have something in common.

Not really. I think Osama is a manufactured US boogeyman. Bush thinks he's for real, just like you so, you and he share similar IQ capacities.

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:47, Blogger nesNYC said...

Dubya's not a paranoid schizophrenic

Number of wars nesnyc got the US in "0"

Number of wars dumbya got the US in 2 and counting....

HA! So who's paranoid? I could careless about wars, send all the troops home right now, I'd be happy. But dumbya disagrees, like you paranoid schizophrenic. Classic case of pot calling the kettle.

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:55, Blogger Alex said...

Would you kindly explain exacty how in the name of all that is holy do the recent wars have ANYTHING to do with paranoia?

I can certainly see that your "war-for-oil", or "war-for-zionist-expansion" theories are the result of paranoia. But how exactly are the wars themselves an example of paranoia?

You really AREN'T capable of coming up with a single rational concept, are you?

 
At 26 August, 2006 13:59, Blogger shawn said...

I think Osama is a manufactured US boogeyman.

Which makes you retarded.

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:17, Blogger default.xbe said...

Number of wars nesnyc got the US in "0"

Number of wars dumbya got the US in 2 and counting....


please, if you were president we'd be in ww3 fighting the evil jooos

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:55, Blogger nesNYC said...

recent wars have ANYTHING to do with paranoia?

Islam-a-phobia.

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:56, Blogger nesNYC said...

please, if you were president we'd be in ww3 fighting the evil jooos

Nope, I'd disband the Zionist regime and move them to Florida or Jersey where they'd be safe and end the stupid wars.

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:57, Blogger shawn said...

Islam-a-phobia.

You're not an antisemite for fearing the non-threat of the Jews but we're Islamophobes for having trouble with a group of religious fanatics flying planes into buildings, blowing up cars, and chopping off heads for gore porn?

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:58, Blogger shawn said...

they'd be safe and end the stupid wars.

Why not just remove the Arab nations? They start the wars.

You remove the aggressor, numbskull.

 
At 26 August, 2006 14:58, Blogger nesNYC said...

Which makes you retarded.

Since when does not believing in fairytales make one retarded? You seem to believe that crap, not me. Oh, and BTW, if Osama is so evil, why is the US/Israel getting ready to bomb Iran? Why did CIA stop their hunt for him? Looks like they don't believe in fairytales either.

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:00, Blogger Alex said...

A phobia is a deathly-fear, such as for instance in arachnophobia. People faced with phobias rely mostly on their flight instinct, and are largely incapable of fighting either their fear or the object of that fear. In other words, wars don't start over phobias. "Islam-a-phobia" would lead to a retreat from all things Islamic. The expulsion of Muslims from the US for instance. The cessation of all foreign dealings with Muslim nations. An isolationist approach to world politics. In other words, the very things that those who are opposed to these wars would have us do. It's not difficult to see who the real "Islamaphobes" are. It's much easier to placate that which you fear than it is to fight it.

Try again?

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:01, Blogger nesNYC said...

Why not just remove the Arab nations? They start the wars.

You remove the aggressor, numbskull.


Think! There's tens of millions of Arabs there, they've been there forever! There are only about 4 million "Israelis" that only moved there yesterday.

So you want to remove the aggressors? How come the only country to have destroyed another in the most recent history is "Israel?" Lebanon is proof of who the aggressor is.

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:04, Blogger nesNYC said...

The expulsion of Muslims from the US for instance. The cessation of all foreign dealings with Muslim nations. An isolationist approach to world politics.

This is all but official policy at the moment. In very little time, these "laws" will go on the books as they did in the past with the Japanese and the "detention" centers they were "relocated" to. Mark my words. And then we have you numbskulls calling for A-bombs over Teheran, if that’s not paranoid, what is?

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:09, Blogger shawn said...

Since when does not believing in fairytales make one retarded?

...you're the one who ignores reality and believes fairy-tales. Stop projecting.

There are only about 4 million "Israelis" that only moved there yesterday.

And the Jews were there first.

And then we have you numbskulls calling for A-bombs over Teheran, if that’s not paranoid, what is?

When have I ever said to nuke Tehran? I don't ever want to see nukes used in warfare again.

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:10, Blogger shawn said...

This is all but official policy at the moment.

hahahahaha the "official policy" is the exact opposite of isolationism right now. Made you are friggin' deluded.

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:19, Blogger nesNYC said...

And the Jews were there first.

That's even debatable but we're not even talking about the same "Jews."

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:23, Blogger shawn said...

That's even debatable

Uh, no it's not debatable. The Jews predate the Arabs.

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:24, Blogger nesNYC said...

Uh, no it's not debatable. The Jews predate the Arabs.

Says who? The book that says the world was made in 7 days? :)

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:36, Blogger apathoid said...

The book that says the world was made in 7 days? :)

How about no?

BTW - Shawn is agonstic dumbass....

 
At 26 August, 2006 15:44, Blogger nesNYC said...

How about no?

BTW - Shawn is agonstic dumbass....


Well, you gotta have faith to believe those lies :D

 
At 26 August, 2006 16:06, Blogger shawn said...

Says who? The book that says the world was made in 7 days? :)

I guess the Roman historians were in on the Zionist conspiracy.

 
At 26 August, 2006 16:07, Blogger shawn said...

Well, you gotta have faith to believe those lies :D

The fact I'm a humanist puts a kibosh on your idiotic belief that I would take anything on faith.

 
At 26 August, 2006 18:37, Blogger Andrew said...

Shawn will you please apologize for calling me a moron in a previous post?

what an angry little man

you smug "humanist" prick :)

 
At 26 August, 2006 18:56, Blogger shawn said...

Shawn will you please apologize for calling me a moron in a previous post?

Do you believe 9/11 was committed by the government?

If so, I will not be apologizing for stating a fact.

what an angry little man

On what planet is 6'2" 200 pounds little?

 
At 26 August, 2006 19:58, Blogger Nathan Mcginty said...

AAAAAHHHHH!!! COPYRIGHT!!! WHY THE F*(& AREN'T THESE LOOSE CHANGE GUYS GETTING THE CRAP SUED OUT OF THEM?!!!

I've been commenting about this on the JREF forums.

I know that like 80%+ of the stuff in LC ISN'T THEIR FOOTAGE TO SELL. Not to mention the Google Earth captures (so that's all public domain now???), wikipedia screenshots, USA Today screenshots,
HBO documentary stuff...?

why aren't more people suing the crap out of them

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:08, Blogger nesNYC said...

I guess the Roman historians were in on the Zionist conspiracy.

I didn't know the Roman Empire dated to the Garden of Eden.

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:10, Blogger nesNYC said...

Shawn will you please apologize for calling me a moron in a previous post?

Don't bet on it. I don't really expect much from this bunch other than a insult flung here and there at regular intervals.

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:11, Blogger nesNYC said...

what an angry little man

On what planet is 6'2" 200 pounds little?


Physical Size has nothing to do with it!

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:12, Blogger apathoid said...

Not to mention the Google Earth captures

Very true. Just read the Google Earth Terms and Conditions and it does in fact say that a license needs to be obtained for commercial use of their product. However - you still cannot use the imagery in the end product!!

I am sooooo telling Google Earth about this :D

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:18, Blogger apathoid said...

Don't bet on it. I don't really expect much from this bunch other than a insult flung here and there at regular intervals.

Hey, dont blame us. We've tried logic, reason, evidence, scientific acumen, and common sense on you guys - it just seems to bounce off...not our fault.

And telling you you need to see a therapist isnt an insult - its a piece of friendly advice.

 
At 26 August, 2006 21:30, Blogger Blind Avocado said...

I didn't know the Roman Empire dated to the Garden of Eden.

The Romans were all over that area more then 2000 years ago, predating Islam. They had clear records or Israel, in fact they have records of them invading and destroying Isreal. The absolute fact is that in that part of the world there has been only 3 independent countries, and they were all called Israel. The Muslims came way after them.

Of course, because you are completely retarded you will not believe recorded history or any fact that that does not suit your paranoid worldview. What a moron.

 
At 26 August, 2006 22:57, Blogger Alex said...

Yeah, like, everyone knows that the Romans were really just a puppet regime controlled by the Zionists/Free Masons/Illuminati. "It's a well established fact!"

 
At 27 August, 2006 04:43, Blogger shawn said...

I didn't know the Roman Empire dated to the Garden of Eden.

I was actually talking about history, not myth.

Sorry, do not pass Go do not collect 200 dollars.

 
At 27 August, 2006 06:06, Blogger shawn said...

Hey, dont blame us. We've tried logic, reason, evidence, scientific acumen, and common sense on you guys - it just seems to bounce off...not our fault.

Apathoid makes the point none of the CT folks seem to get. We didn't start by insulting you. We made clear, concise rebuttals to ALL the "inside job" points, utterly destroying them. When someone clings to something that obviously isn't true (Osama bin Laden is real nesnyc, so don't pull out that nuggest again), they deserve to be insulted.

And nesnyc, you're a special brand of stupid.

 
At 27 August, 2006 06:11, Blogger Billythekid said...

The Belgians indeed showed highlights from Loose Change last week, but that was followed by a documentary the next day that refuted most of the claims.

 
At 27 August, 2006 06:44, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Nathan;

You are correct, they are using alot of others people's footage. Even though there are different rules for docmentaries wrt using others footage, they are breaking those rules as well.

I think, mainly, they have been lucky because they have been flying below the radar. It will be interesting to see, as the film gets more publicity, if the lawyers don't start to bare their teeth.

Can you imagine what LC would be like with all the copyrrighted material taken out...now that would be ajoke...

 
At 27 August, 2006 07:05, Blogger nesNYC said...

I was actually talking about history, not myth.

A lot of the Jewish history comes from those myths.

 
At 27 August, 2006 09:15, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Jew/Muslim/Christian, all believe in the same "Big Guy".

 
At 27 August, 2006 10:25, Blogger nesNYC said...

Jew/Muslim/Christian, all believe in the same "Big Guy".

And I'm not saying they are remotely correct in history either. Religious doctrine has always been subverted to the benefit of its leaders. Everybody knows that.

 
At 27 August, 2006 10:50, Blogger shawn said...

A lot of the Jewish history comes from those myths.

You just don't get it, do you? I'm not using the Bible as a source here.

 
At 27 August, 2006 11:10, Blogger nesNYC said...

You just don't get it, do you? I'm not using the Bible as a source here.

Who were the inhabitants of the Fertile Crescent? I doubt it was the Jews.

 
At 27 August, 2006 11:42, Blogger shawn said...

Who were the inhabitants of the Fertile Crescent? I doubt it was the Jews.

The Jews inhabited a small portion of it.

 
At 28 August, 2006 02:49, Blogger Sword of Truth said...

Shawn will you please apologize for calling me a moron in a previous post?

Are you ever going to apologize for lying to me about the FBI and CIA calling off the hunt for Bin Laden?

 
At 28 August, 2006 07:08, Blogger nesNYC said...

Are you ever going to apologize for lying to me about the FBI and CIA calling off the hunt for Bin Laden?

That's not totally a "lie."

C.I.A. Closes Unit Focused on Capture of bin Laden

 
At 28 August, 2006 07:32, Blogger Alex said...

But....but...I thought Bin Laden was a CIA agent? If they really wanted to find him....couldn't they, like, just pick up the phone and call? "Hullo Osama, 'ow's your mum?" kinda thing?

 
At 28 August, 2006 11:49, Blogger Manny said...

If so, I will not be apologizing for stating a fact.

How about apologizing to the world's morons for the comparison?

 
At 29 August, 2006 13:16, Blogger rocketdoodle said...

nesnyc-

That article says nothing about calling off the hunt.

 

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