Saturday, September 09, 2006

Don't Knock the New World Order Debunkers, They're Keeping the US Economy Going!

A Pointless Waste of Time adds it up and comes to the conclusion:

And keep in mind, this can't be chump change. Even in a world where every structural engineering desk jockey is okay with mass murder, they're still not going to risk jail and career ruin and walk away from a huge book deal for ten grand. Oh, no, it's got to be millions, per person, just to make it worth it. Even a dedicated conspirator would need to know he or she was set for life.

Let's say they wrote 500,000 checks (hell, you've got more than 120,000 people in the American Society of Civil Engineers alone, and they'd be the first ones to speak out). Say the average payout was ten million (barely enough to live rich the rest of your life, but let's just say). So that's 500,000 times ten million which is...

...Five TRILLION dollars.

That's about half of the value of all goods and services produced in the United States last year. Therefore the 9/11 conspiracy was, in terms of payroll, the single largest employer in the history of the world.


Update: That was page 2 of the story; Page 1 can be read here.

Hey, I know my ten mill is responsible for a minor economic boom at the local beer store!

Great post!

27 Comments:

At 09 September, 2006 12:31, Blogger shawn said...

Covering this thing up after the fact would be like trying to keep the atomic bomb a secret after Hiroshima.

Quoted for truth.

 
At 09 September, 2006 13:10, Blogger Alex said...

Awesome. Informative, AND hilarious. Thanks David, and keep up the good work!

 
At 09 September, 2006 13:27, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Great article David. Keep fighting the beast that is the "Truth" movement.

TAM

 
At 09 September, 2006 14:23, Blogger Pat said...

Added the link to the first page. Good stuff David!

 
At 09 September, 2006 14:54, Blogger nes718 said...

What I've never understood is the OS'er logic that only 19 Arabs could do the deed and a small number of well connected Neocons couldn't. It's very easy to plant these stories in the press and pay professional liars to introduce "evidence" to convince the masses. A big number of conspirators is not needed.

Look at how drug companies influence doctors to prescribe dangerous drugs. Take Vioxx for example. The Government gave it a seal of approval and the doctors dispensed it. People died and it was known for a long time this drug was not safe. Where all these doctor in on the scam? Absolutely not. The inner circles in the drug company new the deal but didn't seem concern because drug interactions usually don't get scrutinized the way they should.

After the lawsuits things changes rather quickly didn't they?

911 is just one such scam that has only a few conspirators connected to the Neocon/Zionist establishment and they disseminate lies and none of you are the wiser.

 
At 09 September, 2006 15:10, Blogger Alex said...

People died and it was known for a long time this drug was not safe. Where all these doctor in on the scam? Absolutely not. The inner circles in the drug company new the deal but didn't seem concern because drug interactions usually don't get scrutinized the way they should.

See, this is why everyone thinks you're insane. You can take any event in the world and turn it into a conspiracy by some shadowy group that's somehow managed to hide all the facts from everyone except you. Vioxx is a great example. The drug got tested, no major side effects were found, and it was released onto the market. Over time new data started to emerge which suggested that the drug was dangerous. Because of it's POSITIVE effects, it was kept on the market until further studies proved that the negative effects outweighed the positive effects.

Now you can look at that in one of two ways:

1) Drug testing isn't always conclusive. All parties involved followed the correct procedures, and acted honorurably. Mistakes were made, and corrected where appropriate.

or

2) Da Joos took over the pharmaceutical business and keep feeding people bad drugs so they can brainwash them while also raising money for the Global Domination (tm) schemes.

It's not really a question which one of the two YOU'D pick. You're a lunatic. That's why we're constantly laughing at you.

 
At 09 September, 2006 15:11, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

NESSIE: (OFF TOPIC)

You have brought up a topic I can address with a large degree of expertese.

Vioxx, a cox-2 inhibitor NSAID, similar to the previously marketed BEXTRA and the currently still available CELEBREX was removed from the market, in all likelihood, to minimize corporate losses via litigation.

The studies that brought the dangers of the drug to the forefront only clarified what we already new, that the drugs were to be used with caution in those patients who were at substantial risk for cardiovascular events. The data showed a doubling of the risk of cardiovascular and cerebrovascular events when taken continuously for more than 1.5 years. The data showed no statistically significant risk if taken for less than that time period.

If there was a failure, it was a failure to warn doctors to inform the patients of this risk more often, and then allow the patient to make a decision on whether to take the drug or not, weighing the pros vs cons. If you have ever had rheumatoid arthritis, and been in agony every day of your life, you might decide to take the drug despite the risk.

There are alot of drugs that carry risks like this. For years we prescribed Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) for women because there was data out there to show that it decreased the risk of CV disease, and helped decrease the risk of Osteoporosis, in addition to releaving the effects of menopause. Being good scientists, us healthcare professionals and related scientists conducted additional studies (paid for by the mean old drug companies) which later proved the cardiovascular protection was false, and perhaps even had some increase risk, and also that there was increase risk of developing Estrogen sensitive Breast Cancers if taken for too long (Estrogen + Progesterone arm only). This of course, got taken out of context, misused and misconstrued by the media, and soon women everywhere were coming off their HRT. Now, with all the dust settled we realize that the risk is not clinically substantial (though statistically significant) in relation to the benifit, in particular for short term use. We also realize that the Breast Ca risk is mainly to those who are already at risk to develop said cancer.

Still, despite what we know, the populous is so anti-HRT, as a result of the initial reaction, that most women will not go on it, and most doctors will not prescribe it.

My point is that the bad drug companies are not as bad as people make them out to be. They are in it to make money, yes, that is the american way is it not? But they do a lot of good, and provide alot of medicines and services to the public.

TAM

 
At 09 September, 2006 15:33, Blogger nes718 said...

Like I said, these things have a mind all there own and usually only a few at the very top know the real workings of the subject in question. Especially in a professional and very technical field, it is VERY easy to dupe people be they educated on the subject or not.

Another drug I can think of right off the bat is AZT. It is a failed chemotherapy drug that was dispensed at rates of nearly 2 grams per day to people diagnosed with HIV. Point is, did even half of the doctors who were prescribing it know it was a highly toxic chemotherapy drug that would actually cause the symptoms it was trying to cure? What convinced many of them, even to the point of legislation being crafted in certain places, for treatment using this dangerous drug? It was drug company literature backed by pharmaceutical interests within the government that promoted and in some cases mandated AZT therapy. We now know since the first wave of the AIDS hysteria that AZT is not the way to go. But how could the common person on the street know what was known in the board rooms of Burroughs-Wellcome? Even the doctors were oblivious as to what was really happening.

Point I'm trying to say, all those engineers that agree with NIST really have no argument with them as the report is craftily written to answer their concerns and makes sense to them but perpetuates a lie at the same time.

 
At 09 September, 2006 15:41, Blogger shawn said...

And I'm sure fluoride is there to hurt us, too, eh nessie?

Believe in chemtrails, too?

 
At 09 September, 2006 16:04, Blogger Alex said...

But how could the common person on the street know what was known in the board rooms of Burroughs-Wellcome?

For a change you're right, but you misinterpret your own conclusion. The point is how the fuck do YOU know what's going on in those boardrooms? How do YOU know what's going on inside NIST or the 9/11 commission? How do YOU know what's going on inside the Pentagon or the White House? Do your Nazi buddies have some inside information that the rest of us don't? NO. You base all your insane conspiracies on no facts or inside information whatsoever; you simply assume that there's a conspiracy and then twist whatever information you can to "prove" that you're right. You just admitted that you have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not "they" have any negative motives, yet all of your theories are based on the premise that "they" are always out to "get" or "control" "us". THAT is how we know you're suffer from extreme paranoia. You don't examine a situation and use the facts to decide that there's something weird going on - instead you decide there's a conspiracy and then distort facts to fit your theory of what's going on. THAT is what differentiates a Conspiracy Theory from a true conspiracy.

 
At 09 September, 2006 16:12, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

Peter H. Duesberg = FOS

 
At 09 September, 2006 16:43, Blogger Unknown said...

Wait so all of you guys got 10 mil? Crap I got ripped off! I've only recieved 1 check for 100,000$. ;)

 
At 09 September, 2006 16:56, Blogger shawn said...

and i dont understand how CTers dont realize the act itself is the easy part, the coverup is what is impossible without a huge number of people

They also don't get that flying planes into buildings and getting the added bonus of them collapsing is far easier than setting up controlled demolitions without anyone knowing and then covering that up.

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:18, Blogger nes718 said...

Believe in chemtrails, too?

What do you think? :D

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:20, Blogger nes718 said...

The point is how the fuck do YOU know what's going on in those boardrooms? How do YOU know what's going on inside NIST or the 9/11 commission?

People died and no one is being held accountable and the cover-ups are easy to spot. It doesn't take a genius to know you've been had.

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:24, Blogger nes718 said...

im sure if 19 neocons wanted to hijack 4 planes and crash them into buildings they could have done it just as easily as the terrorists did, but no one says that all they did, the CT is much more complicated

Whit the verified spying on the US by ISRAEL and the Zionist Neocons in the DoD and the 5 dancing Israeli explosive experts being arrested in connection with 911 what more proof do you want? It's not really complicated. A few dozen people in high positions in government got together and pulled this off. Their friends in the media spun the Osama fib and the rest is "plausibly" denied or pass off as incompetence. There doesn't need to be "thousands" in on this plot only a handful loyal to their cause, ISRAEL.

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:24, Blogger shawn said...

hahaha he does believe in every unsupported, illogical conspiracy theory.

Rock on, nutjob.

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:25, Blogger shawn said...

A few dozen people

Would've taken hundreds, if not thousands to set the buildings for explosives.

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:26, Blogger nes718 said...

Peter H. Duesberg = FOS

What about Kary?

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:28, Blogger nes718 said...

Would've taken hundreds, if not thousands to set the buildings for explosives.

Nope. If it only took two planes why does it need to take thousands of bombs?

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:29, Blogger nes718 said...

hahaha he does believe in every unsupported, illogical conspiracy theory.

The only unsupported conspiracy theory is that Al Qaeda is out to gettcha ;)

 
At 09 September, 2006 18:36, Blogger shawn said...

Nope. If it only took two planes why does it need to take thousands of bombs?

Ok, so you don't believe the controlled demo theory?

The only unsupported conspiracy theory is that Al Qaeda is out to gettcha ;)

You do realize you're automatically wrong once you link that site?

And it's funny that you believe in non-existant conspiracies, but don't believe in the real ones.

 
At 09 September, 2006 20:28, Blogger Alex said...

People died and no one is being held accountable and the cover-ups are easy to spot. It doesn't take a genius to know you've been had.

In other words "I have absolutely no way of knowing the motives or actions of those I accuse, so I'm now going to pull even more accusations out of my ass and hope some of them stick".

You really ARE like a monkey throwing feces, you know that? I've never seen the comparison demonstrated so clearly before.

Whit the verified spying on the US by ISRAEL and the Zionist Neocons in the DoD and the 5 dancing Israeli explosive experts being arrested in connection with 911 what more proof do you want?

There's just a teeny-tiny difference between spying and mass murder, asshole. If I catch you peeking in my window, I'm gonna be angry, and I'll probably have you charged for invading my privacy. On the other hand, I'd have to be an utter nincompoop like you in order to see such an act as proof that you slaughtered 3,000 people. Especially in a manner as convoluted as the idiotic scenarios which you constantly spin.

If it only took two planes why does it need to take thousands of bombs?

Two possible answers:

Answer 1: Thousands of bombs? What, you gave up on your "plastic incendiary" idea already?

Answer 2: You're the idiot insisting it was a controlled demolition. Controlled demolitions would definitely have taken thousands of bombs. An uncontrolled one would not, but that's NOT what you assholes keep screaming about.

There doesn't need to be "thousands" in on this plot only a handful loyal to their cause, ISRAEL..

Ah yes. Da Joos Did It! Heil Nesnyc!

 
At 09 September, 2006 21:27, Blogger James B. said...

Hey, I haven't received a dime. I think Pat is drinking my half!

 
At 10 September, 2006 17:17, Blogger The Artistic Macrophage said...

if he believes AIDS was created by men, than yes...

KARY = NUTS

 
At 10 September, 2006 19:46, Blogger shawn said...

I actually read up on nessie's doctor buddy and found a story about an AIDS activist who doesn't believe HIV causes AIDS so she didn't have her daughter tested and when she got sick didn't give her the proper drugs so the child died.

 
At 11 September, 2006 13:29, Blogger Ã˜yvind said...

Like I said, these things have a mind all there own and usually only a few at the very top know the real workings of the subject in question. Especially in a professional and very technical field, it is VERY easy to dupe people be they educated on the subject or not.

OK, so when all these engineers laugh at the demolition theory it's because everyone else does it, too.

Sure. That makes sense to me.

Whit the verified spying on the US by ISRAEL

You do realize most countries spy on each others, right?

Heck, today it doesn't take more than Google Earth to find hidden rocket bases and sub pens and whatnot:p.

Nope. If it only took two planes why does it need to take thousands of bombs?

Since when was it us who supported the Controlled Demolition theory? I thought that was you Truthers?

 

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